Tom...O/T purifying air ducts with MMS.

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I am curious, Tom, if you have any thoughts on cleaning/disinfecting air ducts that run under my home with MMS. I had rats (yuck) that breached the ducts and lived there...the ducts have been sealed, but never really cleaned due to inaccessability. I have set bowls of activated MMS in front of the cold air return vents to try to introduce the gas...but don't really think that is having much effect. Any ideas you have would be most welcome.

thanks.

judi

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Hello Judi,

Yuck is right...

It is easier if you can clear people and animals out of the house for a few

hours. This will allow you to use a higher concentration to make sure you get

all of the " yuck " out.

You will need a humidifier that holds about 500 ml, and you have to be able to

turn your fan on manual, so it is running all of the time. You set the

humidifier to blow into the cold air return, turn the furnace fan on manual,

then leave for the amount of time it takes the humidifier to go through the 500

ml.

This first step involves putting 10 ml of 5% sodium chlorite into a glass,

adding 10 ml of 6% HCl, and adding enough water to make 500 ml. This is added

to the humidifier, then everything is turned on, and you leave. It should take

somewhere around 3 - 4 hours to go this amount, then give it an extra hour to

circulate around the house.

End of Day 1.

The next step is to simply add 10 ml of 5% sodium chlorite to 500 ml of water,

add this to the humidifier, and go through the same process again. Humidifier

will be blowing into the cold air return, the furnace fan set to manual on, and

you leave the house and remove the pets.

End of Day 2.

The Day 1 process will disinfect the duct. The Day 2 process will apply a sort

of " timed release " coating that will keep your ducts disinfected for 6 - 12

months, depending on the amount of rat turds left in the duct.

It may not be practical, but it is best to try to remove all of the rat turds

from the duct before doing all of this. Unfortunately, this can be both

expensive and difficult to do.

Caution:

Prior to leaving the house, make provisions to be able to open up 2 outside

doors to establish a cross draft when you return. When you return, open up the

doors and let the house air out for 15 minutes or so before going back in.

Also, there should be no residual odor after airing out. If there is, it may be

an indication of mold growing somewhere in the house or duct. You can track

this down by finding the area where the odor is strongest and checking there.

This is a lot harder to do than it sounds and most people either turn to

professionals to find the mold problem, or simply treat more often.

You can separate the Day 1 treatment from the Day 2 treatment by quite some

time, but I usually try to do them both within a week.

Tom

>

> I am curious, Tom, if you have any thoughts on cleaning/disinfecting air ducts

> that run under my home with MMS.  I had rats (yuck) that breached the ducts

and

> lived there...the ducts have been sealed, but never really cleaned due to

> inaccessability.  I have set bowls of activated MMS in front of the cold air

> return vents to try to introduce the gas...but don't really think that is

having

> much effect.  Any ideas you have would be most welcome.

>

> thanks.  

>

> judi

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Tom....this is terrific. I will get the supplies together and give this a go....will repeat as needed for a while and see if I can't clear everything out. I'll check the archives for the formula for 5%....Happily, I was a Chem major in college...swiped a few pieces of glassware as "souvenirs", so I've got a handy-dandy graduated cylander . I'll let you know how it goes.

judi

From: silverfox_science <poast@...> Sent: Sat, August 14, 2010 9:58:39 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Tom...O/T purifying air ducts with MMS.

Hello Judi,Yuck is right...It is easier if you can clear people and animals out of the house for a few hours. This will allow you to use a higher concentration to make sure you get all of the "yuck" out.You will need a humidifier that holds about 500 ml, and you have to be able to turn your fan on manual, so it is running all of the time. You set the humidifier to blow into the cold air return, turn the furnace fan on manual, then leave for the amount of time it takes the humidifier to go through the 500 ml.This first step involves putting 10 ml of 5% sodium chlorite into a glass, adding 10 ml of 6% HCl, and adding enough water to make 500 ml. This is added to the humidifier, then everything is turned on, and you leave. It should take somewhere around 3 - 4 hours to go this amount, then give it an extra hour to circulate around the house.End of Day 1.The next step is to simply add 10 ml of 5% sodium

chlorite to 500 ml of water, add this to the humidifier, and go through the same process again. Humidifier will be blowing into the cold air return, the furnace fan set to manual on, and you leave the house and remove the pets.End of Day 2.The Day 1 process will disinfect the duct. The Day 2 process will apply a sort of "timed release" coating that will keep your ducts disinfected for 6 - 12 months, depending on the amount of rat turds left in the duct.It may not be practical, but it is best to try to remove all of the rat turds from the duct before doing all of this. Unfortunately, this can be both expensive and difficult to do. Caution:Prior to leaving the house, make provisions to be able to open up 2 outside doors to establish a cross draft when you return. When you return, open up the doors and let the house air out for 15 minutes or so before going back in. Also, there should be no residual odor

after airing out. If there is, it may be an indication of mold growing somewhere in the house or duct. You can track this down by finding the area where the odor is strongest and checking there. This is a lot harder to do than it sounds and most people either turn to professionals to find the mold problem, or simply treat more often.You can separate the Day 1 treatment from the Day 2 treatment by quite some time, but I usually try to do them both within a week.Tom>> I am curious, Tom, if you have any thoughts on cleaning/disinfecting air ducts > that run under my home with MMS. I had rats (yuck) that breached the ducts and > lived there...the ducts

have been sealed, but never really cleaned due to > inaccessability. I have set bowls of activated MMS in front of the cold air > return vents to try to introduce the gas...but don't really think that is having > much effect. Any ideas you have would be most welcome.> > thanks. > > judi>

[Guest guest]

Hello I am new to this forum group & was only introduced to MMS at the start of this year. I have a question regarding mold. We have an outside studio room that has been letting in water through the side door , plus this room seems to get damp in our cold winters here. This winter as been one of the worst for this. I have noticed that the area on the flooring which is carpeted where the rain gad been coming in has been very damp & added to this we had some things stored there so consequently when they were moved there is quite a bit of mold.

There has never been any mold or mildew or build up of condensation along the walls , window ledges etc ...which surprises me as the dampness.....we don't want to purchase new carpet  just yet ...nut how can we treat this mold on the carpet & I am concerned this may noe be releasing spores into the air ???

Any suggestions that have been tried with success will be appreciated. Mavushla.On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Judi Wallace <blueyes5724@...> wrote:

 

I am curious, Tom, if you have any thoughts on cleaning/disinfecting air ducts that run under my home with MMS.  I had rats (yuck) that breached the ducts and lived there...the ducts have been sealed, but never really cleaned due to inaccessability.  I have set bowls of activated MMS in front of the cold air return vents to try to introduce the gas...but don't really think that is having much effect.  Any ideas you have would be most welcome.

 

thanks.  

 

judi

[Guest guest]

Hello Mavushla,

Rugs can be difficult, but most of the time a simple application will take care

of things. Let's hope your rugs are easy.

You first need to clean the rug. If possible, rent a carpet cleaning machine

and clean the carpet. If that is not possible, you will have to do it by hand.

After the carpet is cleaned, use fans to completely dry it.

Once it is dry you can proceed to sanitize it. In 1 liter of water, add 7 ml of

22.4% sodium chlorite (MMS), then add 7 ml of 10% citric acid. Put this into a

spray bottle and let it sit for a few hours, or overnight. Next spray the

solution on the rug. You don't need to saturate the rug, but need something

like a heavy mist.

The main issue with this is that you may be close to the concentration of

chlorine dioxide that will bleach the rug fibers. You may want to try it on a

small area just to be sure it doesn't bleach. I have not had any reports of

bleaching, but I always caution because there are a lot of different fibers used

in rugs.

Usually, you only need 1 treatment, but you have to stop the water from getting

in by repairing the door. If the rug gets wet again, you will have to start

over from the beginning.

To review:

Fix the door so water no longer goes through it.

Clean the mold and mildew off of the rug.

Dry the rug.

Apply the sanitizing solution as a heavy mist to the rug.

Tom

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> *Hello I am new to this forum group & was only introduced to MMS at the

> start of this year. I have a question regarding mold. We have an outside

> studio room that has been letting in water through the side door , plus this

> room seems to get damp in our cold winters here. This winter as been one of

> the worst for this. I have noticed that the area on the flooring which is

> carpeted where the rain gad been coming in has been very damp & added to

> this we had some things stored there so consequently when they were moved

> there is quite a bit of mold.

> There has never been any mold or mildew or build up of condensation along

> the walls , window ledges etc ...which surprises me as the dampness.....we

> don't want to purchase new carpet just yet ...nut how can we treat this

> mold on the carpet & I am concerned this may noe be releasing spores into

> the air ???

> Any suggestions that have been tried with success will be appreciated.

> Mavushla.

> *

> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Judi Wallace <blueyes5724@...>wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > I am curious, Tom, if you have any thoughts on cleaning/disinfecting air

> > ducts that run under my home with MMS. I had rats (yuck) that breached the

> > ducts and lived there...the ducts have been sealed, but never really cleaned

> > due to inaccessability. I have set bowls of activated MMS in front of the

> > cold air return vents to try to introduce the gas...but don't really think

> > that is having much effect. Any ideas you have would be most welcome.

> >

> > thanks.

> >

> > judi

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

HiI suggest the primary cause is lack of insulation within the wall cavity and roof space. Mold, however treated, will continue to recure unless you treat the primary cause. This would include fibreglass, wool, foam or fibre spray in the cavities or, if these are inaccessable, the is an insulating paint available which requires micro spheres of a ceramic material mixing into standard paint and a 3 coat application, this mix is about the same price as paint per litre.DaveFrom: Macushla Obiakor <macushlanz@...> Sent: Sat, 14 August, 2010 9:55:28 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Tom...O/T purifying air ducts with MMS.

Hello I am new to this forum group & was only introduced to MMS at the start of this year. I have a question regarding mold. We have an outside studio room that has been letting in water through the side door , plus this room seems to get damp in our cold winters here. This winter as been one of the worst for this. I have noticed that the area on the flooring which is carpeted where the rain gad been coming in has been very damp & added to this we had some things stored there so consequently when they were moved there is quite a bit of mold.

There has never been any mold or mildew or build up of condensation along the walls , window ledges etc ...which surprises me as the dampness.....we don't want to purchase new carpet just yet ...nut how can we treat this mold on the carpet & I am concerned this may noe be releasing spores into the air ???

Any suggestions that have been tried with success will be appreciated. Mavushla.On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Judi Wallace <blueyes5724@...> wrote:

I am curious, Tom, if you have any thoughts on cleaning/disinfecting air ducts that run under my home with MMS. I had rats (yuck) that breached the ducts and lived there...the ducts have been sealed, but never really cleaned due to inaccessability. I have set bowls of activated MMS in front of the cold air return vents to try to introduce the gas...but don't really think that is having much effect. Any ideas you have would be most welcome.

thanks.

judi