RE: Re: Making Citric Acid

[Guest guest]

The penny has finally dropped! (I'm sure all will be relieved) just one final

thing - if I do the 1.1 do I use the same amount of water - ie. half a glass -

say with 5 drops sodium chlorite and 5 drops of citric acid? Or would you need

more water? thanks....dee

On 3 Aug 2010, at 19:32, silverfox_science wrote:

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> Hello Dee,

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> You have choices.

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> If you want to follow the MMS protocol and have 10% citric acid you would mix

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> 1 part sodium chlorite to 5 parts citric acid.

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> If you want to follow the activation ratio that industry has proven to be more

effective you would mix

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> 1 part sodium chlorite to 1 part citric acid.

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> You have to decide which one you want to use.

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> Both ratios will activate the sodium chlorite, it is just that the 1:1 ratio

is more effective because it isn't polluted with excess citric acid. It is also

easier on the stomach.

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> Tom

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[Guest guest]

On 2010-08-04 8:02 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick <dee@...> wrote:

> If you want to follow the MMS protocol and have 10% citric acid you

> would mix

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> 1 part sodium chlorite to 5 parts citric acid.

And then wait only THREE minutes

> If you want to follow the activation ratio that industry has proven

> to be more effective you would mix

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> 1 part sodium chlorite to 1 part citric acid.

And then wait a full TEN minutes

[Guest guest]

Oh Lord, now I'm off again! The difficulty here is I'm giving it to my dog and

it would be really difficult to get that into him (20 litres that is) I presume

it would be different amounts for dogs too. I must say I thought JH's estimate

of 3 drops per 25lb was somewhat excessive because in a bowl of water, that

would be really concentrated--I would have thought. Maybe if I made 5.5

activation with a bowl of water that would be ok. I suppose the benchmark would

be if he drinks it! Thanks for the info. dee

On 5 Aug 2010, at 03:15, silverfox_science wrote:

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[Guest guest]

Tom,Is it 5 drops activated you talk about?Regards,DaveFrom: silverfox_science <poast@...>Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:15 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Making Citric Acid Hello Dee, Now that you have that figured out, I am afraid that things are going to get confusing again... The amount of water you add directly effects the concentration of the solution. The "real" question is what concentration is needed to kill pathogens in the body...? We know what it takes to kill pathogens in water and on hard surfaces and in the air, but no studies are available to address the concentrations needed to kill pathogens inside the body. Once again you have to make a decision. If you think your body is like water, the concentration used to purify water is around 2 PPM. You would add about 20 liters of water to your 5 drops to make that concentration. If you think your body is like a hard surface that allows you to put the solution into direct contact with the pathogen, you then have to determine if you are fighting bacteria, fungus, or viruses. Most bacteria can be killed with a concentration of 50 PPM. You would add 800 ml of water to your 5 drop dose to make that concentration. Most fungus can be killed with a concentration of 100 PPM. You would add 400 ml of water to your 5 drop dose to make that concentration. Most viruses can be killed with a concentration of 5000 PPM. You would add 8 ml of water to your 5 drops to make that concentration, but that is strong enough to poison you and make you very sick. Anthrax was eliminated from the air in the Senate building with a concentration of 560000 PPM, as another reference point. I think this was a little "over kill" but they wanted to err on the side of caution. Jim Humble claims to have around 95% success using half a cup of water. If you believe his claim, that will give you a concentration of 320 PPM. Of course he also claimed success using the 15 drop dose in half a glass of water, and that concentration is about 950 PPM. As you can see, this is a very difficult question to answer, and there isn't much to go on to help with the answer. As part of the "great experiment" you will have to figure this out on your own. Here are some general guidelines that may help. Oxidizers only work on things that can be oxidized. Oxidizers only work by being able to get a high enough concentration in contact with the pathogen for a long enough time to kill it. Oxidizers can cause oxidative stress, so the person has to be able to withstand the treatment hopefully with minimal adverse effects. Tom > > The penny has finally dropped! (I'm sure all will be relieved) just one final thing - if I do the 1.1 do I use the same amount of water - ie. half a glass - say with 5 drops sodium chlorite and 5 drops of citric acid? Or would you need more water? thanks....dee >

[Guest guest]

Healinghope wrote

Tom Not only Jim Humble claims success with this ratio and Malaria so do the

Lutherans.

Healinghope...the reported malaria studies are for one or two day treatments

max. What we are talking about here treating a pup for an ongoing time is a

completely different situation.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in trying activation with less citric acid

and actually evidence that it is more advantageous.

You keep wanting to prove Jim's way is the only way. It gets old

rose

[Guest guest]

I don't have malaria, but thanks for the info <lol> dee

On 5 Aug 2010, at 19:04, silverfox_science wrote:

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> Hello Healinghope,

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> How many people in this group have asked about treating malaria...?

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> Dee has not mentioned that she has malaria.

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> Dee if you have malaria, mix up a dose according to Dr. Hesselinks protocol

and drink it. You will only need one dose, or maybe two at the most and then

you can get on with your life. You will have to fast a few hours before taking

it, be sure not to mix anything but water with it, fast a while after taking it,

and I believe he adjusts the dose according to body mass and does not use a

" universal " dose.

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