Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 On 2010-07-26 9:14 AM, fiordean dacian <dfiordean@...> wrote: > I assume you guys debated over this many many times... it's just that > I'm new on this stuff, so ignore me if of no interest for you... Yep... it is pointless to argue with the mmsdebunked guy, because he gets so many things wrong - and no, I am not inclined to rehash it all again for you. Google is your friend... use it, and make up your own mind. Jim isn't selling much of anything, so if he is a scammer, he forgot one of the cardinal rules of running a scam - to set it up so that you actually get paid for it. He may get the details wrong a lot, and he may refuse to acknowledge when he is wrong (everyone has ego problems to an extent), but I don't think it is out of malice, and certainly not to 'scam' anyone... Lastly - as pointed out, far too many people have been helped for it to be a scam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Jim isn't selling much of anything, That's debatable and I'll let it go at that Bc I don't want to debate. Just not everyone one of us believes it is all altruistic That said, I agree with , works if used correctly in a situation where it can work Cure for all disease, not my opinion Each situation and circumstance unique There is not 'one' answer but many answers No silver bullets rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I will share our experiences with you. All 4 of us in my family are battling chronic Lyme along with a host of co-infections. We each have very, very different symptoms. One has heart and vascular problems, one has bipolar, ADHD, depression, and OCD symptoms and severe muscle pains, another has vision problems, no sense of time, can appear autistic, and the 4th person loses function - cannot walk, cannot lift things, etc. We were all taking the traditional garbage medicine and only getting worse. Our insurance was canceled so in order to refill our scripts it was going to be over $10,000 per month. Since that wasn't an option, we turned to MMS out of desperation. I had tried it myself last fall but I did way too much, way too fast, got really sick and quit. This time we started out very slowly and listened to our own bodies. I read all I could and then sifted through it and used my own common sense and caution. I really couldn't care less about the science of it. All I am interested in is that every one of us has improved dramatically! We certainly aren't cured but we have had huge healing. We are able to live "normal" lives. Last year I was completely bedridden. I have no idea what the long term effects will be but I would rather enjoy the time I do have instead of living in torture and praying to die. How I found MMS in the first place was researching different things I could drink (like bleach) without killing myself. Yes, I was that desperate! What convinced me to try MMS was the very fact that it was banned in Canada and Australia! If the government feels threatened by it then to me, that says it works! Look at the money I was spending on drugs that they are no longer robbing me of. The MMS is costing all 4 of us less than $20 a month! We have to just take everything one day at a time but for now this works for us! I (discreetly) tell everyone I know about it but most people are completely brainwashed and just keep right on taking the traditional medicine. It breaks my heart to watch so many people suffering without giving this a try. Take it slow. See what happens. Of course you are going to get sick. You are full of toxins! But stick it out and go slow! Nobody blinks an eye to take a bunch of medicine that a doctor writes a script for! Do some research on what is in that stuff! And just because someone went to medical school doesn't mean they have all the answers. I saw over 21 doctors including a week long visit to the Mayo Clinic (what a joke!) and ultimately diagnosed myself and then my family. We have all improved. You cannot argue with those results! It's not a magic bullet. We certainly didn't experience "cures" in 4 hours or anything like that but we are a million times better than we were while taking the meds. Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Hi I've been making mms2 with( sock it) from Canada use to shock pool calcium chlorite 65 percent been putting on a mole about the size of a pinky finger tip ....the results...well I didn't feel a thing for the first day applying some with a Qtip everytime it dried on I would apply some more I'd say like 5 times during the first day no pain no feeling nothing. Then on the second day it was like a bee had sting me everytime I applied it really same thing as getting stung!! Now I'm on the third day and the mole instead of being kind of black turned like almost skin colored all around it is red and the sides of it are like starting to come apart as if the damn thing is gonna fall right off soon!!I am putting a pic so people can see,,,Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.From: "palulukon" <palulukon@...>Sender: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:00:05 -0500< >Reply Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Is MMS scam? Jim isn't selling much of anything,That's debatable and I'll let it go at thatBc I don't want to debate. Just not everyone one of us believes it is allaltruisticThat said, I agree with , works if used correctly in a situation whereit can workCure for all disease, not my opinionEach situation and circumstance uniqueThere is not 'one' answer but many answersNo silver bulletsrose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 On 2010-07-26 12:00 PM, palulukon <palulukon@...> wrote: >> Jim isn't selling much of anything, > That's debatable and I'll let it go at that But I won't... What is he selling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 "Google is your friend... use it, and make up your own mind."Well, I actually do; hence the confusion "Jim isn't selling much of anything, so if he is a scammer, he forgot one of the cardinal rules of running a scam - to set it up so that you actually get paid for it."Nobody said Jim is a scammer, I was just asking what the group thinks. "Lastly - as pointed out, far too many people have been helped for it to be a scam."Well, that's a good point; the thing is I cannot check it.thanks. > I assume you guys debated over this many many times... it's just that > I'm new on this stuff, so ignore me if of no interest for you... Yep... it is pointless to argue with the mmsdebunked guy, because he gets so many things wrong - and no, I am not inclined to rehash it all again for you. Google is your friend... use it, and make up your own mind. Jim isn't selling much of anything, so if he is a scammer, he forgot one of the cardinal rules of running a scam - to set it up so that you actually get paid for it. He may get the details wrong a lot, and he may refuse to acknowledge when he is wrong (everyone has ego problems to an extent), but I don't think it is out of malice, and certainly not to 'scam' anyone... Lastly - as pointed out, far too many people have been helped for it to be a scam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 Nice !! I'm glad u guys are better that is what matters!!!Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.From: THilde5939@...Sender: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:07:10 EDT< >Reply Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Is MMS scam? I will share our experiences with you. All 4 of us in my family are battling chronic Lyme along with a host of co-infections. We each have very, very different symptoms. One has heart and vascular problems, one has bipolar, ADHD, depression, and OCD symptoms and severe muscle pains, another has vision problems, no sense of time, can appear autistic, and the 4th person loses function - cannot walk, cannot lift things, etc. We were all taking the traditional garbage medicine and only getting worse. Our insurance was canceled so in order to refill our scripts it was going to be over $10,000 per month. Since that wasn't an option, we turned to MMS out of desperation. I had tried it myself last fall but I did way too much, way too fast, got really sick and quit. This time we started out very slowly and listened to our own bodies. I read all I could and then sifted through it and used my own common sense and caution. I really couldn't care less about the science of it. All I am interested in is that every one of us has improved dramatically! We certainly aren't cured but we have had huge healing. We are able to live "normal" lives. Last year I was completely bedridden. I have no idea what the long term effects will be but I would rather enjoy the time I do have instead of living in torture and praying to die. How I found MMS in the first place was researching different things I could drink (like bleach) without killing myself. Yes, I was that desperate! What convinced me to try MMS was the very fact that it was banned in Canada and Australia! If the government feels threatened by it then to me, that says it works! Look at the money I was spending on drugs that they are no longer robbing me of. The MMS is costing all 4 of us less than $20 a month! We have to just take everything one day at a time but for now this works for us! I (discreetly) tell everyone I know about it but most people are completely brainwashed and just keep right on taking the traditional medicine. It breaks my heart to watch so many people suffering without giving this a try. Take it slow. See what happens. Of course you are going to get sick. You are full of toxins! But stick it out and go slow! Nobody blinks an eye to take a bunch of medicine that a doctor writes a script for! Do some research on what is in that stuff! And just because someone went to medical school doesn't mean they have all the answers. I saw over 21 doctors including a week long visit to the Mayo Clinic (what a joke!) and ultimately diagnosed myself and then my family. We have all improved. You cannot argue with those results! It's not a magic bullet. We certainly didn't experience "cures" in 4 hours or anything like that but we are a million times better than we were while taking the meds. Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 thanks Tammy. That's nice of you sharing the positive experience your family has with MMS, this is encouraging.From: THilde5939@... <THilde5939@...>Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Is MMS scam? Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 12:07 AM I will share our experiences with you. All 4 of us in my family are battling chronic Lyme along with a host of co-infections. We each have very, very different symptoms. One has heart and vascular problems, one has bipolar, ADHD, depression, and OCD symptoms and severe muscle pains, another has vision problems, no sense of time, can appear autistic, and the 4th person loses function - cannot walk, cannot lift things, etc. We were all taking the traditional garbage medicine and only getting worse. Our insurance was canceled so in order to refill our scripts it was going to be over $10,000 per month. Since that wasn't an option, we turned to MMS out of desperation. I had tried it myself last fall but I did way too much, way too fast, got really sick and quit. This time we started out very slowly and listened to our own bodies. I read all I could and then sifted through it and used my own common sense and caution. I really couldn't care less about the science of it. All I am interested in is that every one of us has improved dramatically! We certainly aren't cured but we have had huge healing. We are able to live "normal" lives. Last year I was completely bedridden. I have no idea what the long term effects will be but I would rather enjoy the time I do have instead of living in torture and praying to die. How I found MMS in the first place was researching different things I could drink (like bleach) without killing myself. Yes, I was that desperate! What convinced me to try MMS was the very fact that it was banned in Canada and Australia! If the government feels threatened by it then to me, that says it works! Look at the money I was spending on drugs that they are no longer robbing me of. The MMS is costing all 4 of us less than $20 a month! We have to just take everything one day at a time but for now this works for us! I (discreetly) tell everyone I know about it but most people are completely brainwashed and just keep right on taking the traditional medicine. It breaks my heart to watch so many people suffering without giving this a try. Take it slow. See what happens. Of course you are going to get sick. You are full of toxins! But stick it out and go slow! Nobody blinks an eye to take a bunch of medicine that a doctor writes a script for! Do some research on what is in that stuff! And just because someone went to medical school doesn't mean they have all the answers. I saw over 21 doctors including a week long visit to the Mayo Clinic (what a joke!) and ultimately diagnosed myself and then my family. We have all improved. You cannot argue with those results! It's not a magic bullet. We certainly didn't experience "cures" in 4 hours or anything like that but we are a million times better than we were while taking the meds. Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 On 2010-07-26 4:11 PM, fiordean dacian <dfiordean@...> wrote: > " Jim isn't selling much of anything, so if he is a scammer, he forgot > one of the cardinal rules of running a scam - to set it up so that > you actually get paid for it. " > > Nobody said Jim is a scammer, I was just asking what the group > thinks. You are the one who chose the subject for this thread right? If so, then yes, you did *imply* that he *might* be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 > So in your logic a question means implying the thing actually. Wow!When the question is followed by a bunch of rhetoric and linkssupporting a 'yes' answer, yes, it does.> Since the first day, you were not happy with my posts;I would not be happy with anyones first post when it is a personalattack on respected list members.> now I realise how difficult is to ask a simple question on a forum to> get others' opinions on the subject.You need to learn how to ask questions without the question equating toan attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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