Re: Is MMS scam?

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Ooops, I forgot the links to the blog I mentioned below:http://sites.google.com/site/mmsdebunked/home/Dubious-Organizationshttp://sites.google.com/site/mmsdebunked/home/mms-scam/real-researchHere is a legitimate question this blogger raises:http://sites.google.com/site/mmsdebunked/home/mms-scam/new-and-improved-mms2Why having MMS2 if MMS1 is so effective? Did anyone experienced with MMS2 (calcium hypochlorite)?It's true that this stuff seems currently being used in different dexinfactant productshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_hypochloritebut not for internal use against disease.thanks!From:

fiordean dacian <dfiordean@...>Subject: Is MMS scam? Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 3:53 PMHelloI posted the other day a link towards Canada which forbiddens MMS there; has no reply here on the group.Here is a blog trying to demonstrate MMS is scam. I have no idea who the guy is or whether he's on any related to MMS, I contacted the guy today and pointed him towards wikipedia showing chlorine dioxide is used for water purification (I did the same in a different post here today), no answer yet.Well, this is just to say that more I read, more I go onto a neutral stance towards MMS. While I know there are plenty of side effects with traditional medication, chemo, radiation, etc. for difficult diseases (like cancer for

instance) I am concerned with what I read like Canada not allowing MMS there (although they don't mention chlorine dioxide but sodium chlorite).Hmm, quite difficult to make an

opinion...

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Ok, for the sake of discussionhttp://curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1510821I assume you guys debated over this many many times... it's just that I'm new on this stuff, so ignore me if of no interest for you...It looks like Tom from curezone (same Tom as here? aka silver_fox?) recommends using MMS mainly for water purification and not for internal use.thanks.From:

fiordean dacian <dfiordean@...>Subject: Is MMS scam? Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 3:53 PMHelloI posted the other day a link towards Canada which forbiddens MMS there; has no reply here on the group.Here is a blog trying to demonstrate MMS is scam. I have no idea who the guy is or whether he's on any related to MMS, I contacted the guy today and pointed him towards wikipedia showing chlorine dioxide is used for water purification (I did the same in a different post here today), no answer yet.Well, this is just to say that more I read, more I go onto a neutral stance towards MMS. While I know there are plenty of side effects with traditional medication, chemo, radiation, etc. for difficult diseases (like

cancer for

instance) I am concerned with what I read like Canada not allowing MMS there (although they don't mention chlorine dioxide but sodium chlorite).Hmm, quite difficult to make an

opinion...

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Hi. I feel that Health Canada is just like the FDA. If they feel MMS could help people with their health issues, well, there is no profit in it for them. If I remember correctly, there was one complaint made by a woman in Canada, cannot remember what the complaint was (will try to find it) and this got the ball rolling. Orrilia

From: fiordean dacian <dfiordean@...> Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 8:53:40 AMSubject: [ ] Is MMS scam?

HelloI posted the other day a link towards Canada which forbiddens MMS there; has no reply here on the group.Here is a blog trying to demonstrate MMS is scam. I have no idea who the guy is or whether he's on any related to MMS, I contacted the guy today and pointed him towards wikipedia showing chlorine dioxide is used for water purification (I did the same in a different post here today), no answer yet.Well, this is just to say that more I read, more I go onto a neutral stance towards MMS. While I know there are plenty of side effects with traditional medication, chemo, radiation, etc. for difficult diseases (like cancer for instance) I am concerned with what I read like Canada not allowing MMS there (although they don't mention chlorine dioxide but sodium chlorite).Hmm, quite difficult to make an opinion...

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Here is a link I found http://www.mmsfacts.com/mms-being-banned-removed-from-many-markets#more-105

Orrilia

From: jr orrilia <dallas6568@...> Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 9:54:27 AMSubject: Re: [ ] Is MMS scam?

Hi. I feel that Health Canada is just like the FDA. If they feel MMS could help people with their health issues, well, there is no profit in it for them. If I remember correctly, there was one complaint made by a woman in Canada, cannot remember what the complaint was (will try to find it) and this got the ball rolling. Orrilia

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thanks orrilia for the link; well, it says (almost) nothing about the Canada's decision to remove (a bit of big pharma loosing money as the main reason but we can't really prove that).We need to look at more than that. what that case (death apperantly) was, what protocol and how it was administered, what other diseases the person was suffering? etc. etc. Well, big pharma loosing money is an argument (ie you can die because of chemo and they will not bann it) but I personally need more thant that :)thanks!From: jr orrilia <dallas6568@...>Subject: Re: [ ] Is MMS scam?To:

Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 4:58 PM

Here is a link I found http://www.mmsfacts .com/mms- being-banned- removed-from- many-markets# more-105

Orrilia

From: jr orrilia <dallas6568 (DOT) com>miracle_mineral_ supplementSent: Mon, July 26, 2010 9:54:27 AMSubject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Is MMS scam?

Hi. I feel that Health Canada is just like the FDA. If they feel MMS could help people with their health issues, well, there is no profit in it for them. If I remember correctly, there was one complaint made by a woman in Canada, cannot remember what the complaint was (will try to find it) and this got the ball rolling. Orrilia

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If its a scam its like no other scam Ive known of. MMS works.My home will not be without it.No I dont use it every day. But if I had a serious disease I would take it every day until its gone.

To have it work it has to get to the affected area.Thats where I see the various protocols that are available now as being helpful..

Personally I could not do the 12 drops protocol likely because of the scar tissue on my stomach. But the 5 drops with 5 drops of activator in a glass of water cured my intercystal

cystitis that doctor told me I would likely live with all my life.I think doing the MMS that way let the MMS get to the problem spot before it activated.

Too many people have been helped by MMS to poopoo it as a scam.

Wilkins

From: fiordean dacian <dfiordean@...>Subject: [ ] Is MMS scam? Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 8:53 AM

HelloI posted the other day a link towards Canada which forbiddens MMS there; has no reply here on the group.Here is a blog trying to demonstrate MMS is scam. I have no idea who the guy is or whether he's on any related to MMS, I contacted the guy today and pointed him towards wikipedia showing chlorine dioxide is used for water purification (I did the same in a different post here today), no answer yet.Well, this is just to say that more I read, more I go onto a neutral stance towards MMS. While I know there are plenty of side effects with traditional medication, chemo, radiation, etc. for difficult diseases (like cancer for instance) I am concerned with what I read like Canada not allowing MMS there (although they don't mention chlorine dioxide but sodium chlorite).Hmm, quite difficult to make an

opinion...

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On 2010-07-26 8:53 AM, fiordean dacian <dfiordean@...> wrote:

> While I know there are plenty of side effects with traditional

> medication, chemo, radiation, etc. for difficult diseases (like cancer

> for instance) I am concerned with what I read like Canada not allowing

> MMS there (although they don't mention chlorine dioxide but sodium

> chlorite).

Oh please.

Canada's FDA is essentially a sister organization to ours... anything

that isn't patentable/expensive (meaning everything

cheap/non-patentable) is verboten.

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Doctor cures doctor? Do You know what that mean?everione has to be they owne

doctor to cure THEMSELFS <as You did .Have to researche has all tools for

everyones everywhere.Gb

>

> I will share our experiences with you. All 4 of us in my family are

> battling chronic Lyme along with a host of co-infections. We each have very,

very

> different symptoms. One has heart and vascular problems, one has bipolar,

> ADHD, depression, and OCD symptoms and severe muscle pains, another has

> vision problems, no sense of time, can appear autistic, and the 4th person

> loses function - cannot walk, cannot lift things, etc. We were all taking the

> traditional garbage medicine and only getting worse. Our insurance was

> canceled so in order to refill our scripts it was going to be over $10,000

per

> month. Since that wasn't an option, we turned to MMS out of desperation. I

> had tried it myself last fall but I did way too much, way too fast, got

> really sick and quit. This time we started out very slowly and listened to

our

> own bodies. I read all I could and then sifted through it and used my own

> common sense and caution. I really couldn't care less about the science of

> it. All I am interested in is that every one of us has improved

> dramatically! We certainly aren't cured but we have had huge healing. We are

able to

> live " normal " lives. Last year I was completely bedridden. I have no idea

> what the long term effects will be but I would rather enjoy the time I do

> have instead of living in torture and praying to die. How I found MMS in the

> first place was researching different things I could drink (like bleach)

> without killing myself. Yes, I was that desperate! What convinced me to try

MMS

> was the very fact that it was banned in Canada and Australia! If the

> government feels threatened by it then to me, that says it works! Look at the

> money I was spending on drugs that they are no longer robbing me of. The MMS

> is costing all 4 of us less than $20 a month! We have to just take

> everything one day at a time but for now this works for us! I (discreetly)

tell

> everyone I know about it but most people are completely brainwashed and just

> keep right on taking the traditional medicine. It breaks my heart to watch

> so many people suffering without giving this a try. Take it slow. See what

> happens. Of course you are going to get sick. You are full of toxins! But

> stick it out and go slow! Nobody blinks an eye to take a bunch of medicine

> that a doctor writes a script for! Do some research on what is in that stuff!

> And just because someone went to medical school doesn't mean they have all

> the answers. I saw over 21 doctors including a week long visit to the Mayo

> Clinic (what a joke!) and ultimately diagnosed myself and then my family.

> We have all improved. You cannot argue with those results! It's not a magic

> bullet. We certainly didn't experience " cures " in 4 hours or anything like

> that but we are a million times better than we were while taking the meds.

>

> Tammy

>

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Great Post Tammy, Touched my home and heart! Thanks.

>

> I will share our experiences with you. All 4 of us in my family are

> battling chronic Lyme along with a host of co-infections. We each have very,

very

> different symptoms. One has heart and vascular problems, one has bipolar,

> ADHD, depression, and OCD symptoms and severe muscle pains, another has

> vision problems, no sense of time, can appear autistic, and the 4th person

> loses function - cannot walk, cannot lift things, etc. We were all taking the

> traditional garbage medicine and only getting worse. Our insurance was

> canceled so in order to refill our scripts it was going to be over $10,000

per

> month. Since that wasn't an option, we turned to MMS out of desperation. I

> had tried it myself last fall but I did way too much, way too fast, got

> really sick and quit. This time we started out very slowly and listened to

our

> own bodies. I read all I could and then sifted through it and used my own

> common sense and caution. I really couldn't care less about the science of

> it. All I am interested in is that every one of us has improved

> dramatically! We certainly aren't cured but we have had huge healing. We are

able to

> live " normal " lives. Last year I was completely bedridden. I have no idea

> what the long term effects will be but I would rather enjoy the time I do

> have instead of living in torture and praying to die. How I found MMS in the

> first place was researching different things I could drink (like bleach)

> without killing myself. Yes, I was that desperate! What convinced me to try

MMS

> was the very fact that it was banned in Canada and Australia! If the

> government feels threatened by it then to me, that says it works! Look at the

> money I was spending on drugs that they are no longer robbing me of. The MMS

> is costing all 4 of us less than $20 a month! We have to just take

> everything one day at a time but for now this works for us! I (discreetly)

tell

> everyone I know about it but most people are completely brainwashed and just

> keep right on taking the traditional medicine. It breaks my heart to watch

> so many people suffering without giving this a try. Take it slow. See what

> happens. Of course you are going to get sick. You are full of toxins! But

> stick it out and go slow! Nobody blinks an eye to take a bunch of medicine

> that a doctor writes a script for! Do some research on what is in that stuff!

> And just because someone went to medical school doesn't mean they have all

> the answers. I saw over 21 doctors including a week long visit to the Mayo

> Clinic (what a joke!) and ultimately diagnosed myself and then my family.

> We have all improved. You cannot argue with those results! It's not a magic

> bullet. We certainly didn't experience " cures " in 4 hours or anything like

> that but we are a million times better than we were while taking the meds.

>

> Tammy

>