Re: hOW TO MAKE lIPO C?

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Here is a summary of info on liposomal C home made from my files,

You will need lecithin granuals also.

Chuck

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the reporter asked. She simply replied, " No peer

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On 7/14/2010 7:58:17 PM, go2y47or (go2y47or@...) wrote:

> I HAVE THE ULTRASOUND MASHINE i CAN BUY THE CLINEST VIT C FOR 2 POUND FOR

> $12 AND WHAT NEED TO DO? OR GIVE ME THE # OF THE MASSEGES AND i GOING TO

> FIND THAT WAY tnx GB

>

" Bradley's Homemade Liposomal C Method " Posted by:

" ransley@... " ransley@... daddybob52954 Mon Aug 24, 2009

9:37 am (PDT)

What follows is all of Bradley's original posts on The

Silverlist about this...This has already been cross posted in many

places and apparently he wants this info to be spread far and wide.

If you are not familiar with this man, he works with a private

research foundation that has no internet presence that you will find

by search engine. They research various simple cheap and effective

alternative medical protocols then he releases the synopsis of their

results to the Silverlist from time to time, then he disappears again.

He is getting on in years and simply does not spend as much time on

any forum as much as he used to. Those of us who have watched him for

years know that he does not deal in hyperbole and is a master of

understatement and courtesy, so the almost breathless nature of the

first post really caused a stir.

DaddyBob

------------ -----We are Euphoric...almost. ..over our enthusiasm

regarding a substance which became available about 24 months ago---and

since subjected to a number of different evaluations. While the actual

materials are not (essentially) modified in chemical or biological

essence..... the FORM of delivery is GREATLY improved and we have

enjoyed ASTONISHING results among all of our principal investigators

evaluating these materials. These research evaluations revolved around

substances yielded by a process called Liposomal Encapsulated

Technology (LET). All of our evaluations involved either Liposomal

Encapsulated GSH or Liposomal Encapsulated Vitamin C. A majority of

our experimental cases involved LET-based Vitamin C. About six months

ago, inspired by the very recent (last 15 months) documented research

of Dr. Levy, M.D., and associates, we endeavored to prosecute

some evaluations of our own.......which centered on vitamin C

encapsulated by phospholipid liposomes. The actual material we

utilized was obtained from representatives of a firm holding some

exclusive procedural patents (Livon), but there are, probably, others

now available... ..especially with the proclivities of firms for

circumventing existing patents. The material is called " Smart "

Lyco-Spheric Nano-Spheres. The principal characteristic which enables

the substance to yield such outstanding results, springs from its

ability to present both in the blood stream and the inter-cellular

environments- ---simultaneousl y. I could hardly believe Dr. Levy's

original claims as to results they achieved. To wit: That the ORAL

ingestion of this " Vitamin C on Steroids " as the hype had pronounced

it-----turned out (at least for us), to be ...EXACTLY THAT. E.G. 5

GRAMS of the LET-type vitamin C (taken orally) did, indeed, yield

results comparable to 50 GRAMS OF IV ADMINISTERED vitamin C. We were,

simply, ASTOUNDED... by this result. I will not attempt to elaborate

on our specific experiments, but will state that our associates

achieved some UNBELIEVABLE results in very short time windows----and

some involving stage IV carcinoma (which had proven unresponsive to

ALL EXISTING ALLEOPATHIC PROTOCOLS). The implications are simply

STAGGERING.. ..for us. The COST PROFILE simply COLLAPSES when

considering such a simple---non- toxic---- address to an amazing

number of terminal-type insults. e.g. snakebite, botulinum, viral

insults from across the entire spectrum, etc). I must go now, but I

encourage list members to conduct a web search on this manufacturing

technology and the products available... ..that actually exhibit the

nano-encapsulation technology. Do understand that some

condition/circumsta nce may present itself, that could modify or,

maybe, even negate our profound results...but I most SERIOUSLY DOUBT

such will be the case. At present, we can hardly believe our results,

but three other research groups (with whom we exchange information

periodically. ....have effected results identical to ours.

------------ ------

In our recent researches evaluating this technology and, consequently,

in searching for possible " process " improvements/ modifications which

might facilitate the " lay person " an opportunity for a DIY methodology

achievable in a home environment- --we did achieve some notable

progress. First, a brief summary of our exploratory activity. Our

literature searches revealed several companies actively exhibiting

valid capability in this area (LET). Typical, and demonstrably

capable, is a company named MICROTEK. Microteklabs. com Helpful

information is available here. One fact became obvious, early on, to

wit: The truly striking feature of LET was a NATURALLY-occurring

characteristic. ..... and not a man-made process, that was driving

this encapsulation process. That is, this process is a function of an

automatic, " natural tendency " of certain substances (e.g.

phospholipids in this case) to form tiny vacoules or bubbles---called

liposomes--- -when in a aqueous solution under certain conditions. "

The keystone activity is that these liposomes automatically fill

themselves with whatever aqueous solution they were in----before they

were formed. " This type of bubble, called a membrane, forms a

protective barrier around virtually every cell in the human body. "

Livon Labs has perfected a process which employs a high-pressure (1700

p.s.i.) discharge system which directs a liquid stream against a

forming plate. The high impact forces the phospholipids (soy lecithin

in this case) to form liposomes--- -so small they require an electrom

microscope for viewing. This technology does not create the LET

activity.... it just enhances it. In our personal researches we have

determined the key to exploiting the LET phenomenon appeared to be

Livon's application of intense force in their mixing methodology.

Enter the " enlightening " moment. Searching for a method of achieving

liposomal encapsulation, it occurred to us to explore ultrasonic

stimulation as an option. It worked...maybe not quite as well as

Livon's " high tech " brute force approach...but about 70% as well.

Plenty efficient for our purposes. Our vitamin " C " liposomal

encapsulation protocol is as follows: Using a small (2 cup) Ultrasonic

cleaner, (Item #03305, obtainable from Harbor Freight @ about $30.00),

we performed the following: 1. Dissolved 3 level tablespoons of soy

lecithin in 1 cup of water (preferably distilled). 2. Dissolved 1

level tablespoon of ascorbic acid powder (Vit. " C " ) in 1/2 cup of

water. 3. Poured both solutions together in the ultrasonic cleaner

bowl and turned the unit on. Using a plastic straw (leaving the top of

the cleaner opened), gently, slowly, stirred the contents. Note: The

cleaner will, automatically, self-stop about every 2 minutes. Just

push ON button to continue. Repeat for a total of 3 series (6

minutes). By that time the entire solution should be blended into a

cloudy, homogeneous, milk-like mixture. The LET solution is now

formed. 4. This protocol furnishes about 12 grams (12000mg.) of

vitamin C product. At 70% encapsulation efficiency, 8400 mg would be

of the LET type. This solution will keep, acceptably, at room

temperature for 3 to 4 days. Refrigerated, it will keep much longer.

We use it so fast around our place...there isn't enough left to be

concerned over storage. The " homogenizing effect " is so powerful that

after 3 days at room temperature, no precipitation or solution

separation appears evident. This type of sequestered vitamin " C " has

demonstrated to be, at least 5 times more effective (per volumetric

measure) than any other form of orally-ingested vitamin " c " ....that we

have tested. Additionally, it appears to be even more rapid in

tissue-bed availability- ---than IV applications. An astounding

revelation.. ..to us. We estimate the DIY researcher can produce the

active LET portion of this solution for 15 cents per gram....as

against about $1.00 per gram from commerci! al sources. It is my hope

that this, limited, explanation of our activities in this area, is of

some value to our do-it-yourself health-maintenance researchers. In

any event, this protocol has demonstrated to be n on-toxic and most

helpful to OUR RESEARCHES. Sincerely, Bradley. p.s. A larger,

more powerful, ultrasonic cleaner is now available at Harbor Freight.

Item number 91593. 2+ liters, for about $60.00. Both units have

performed quite well for us. Almost as well as our $500.00 lead

zirconate titanate, research grade, unit.

------------ --------- ---

My apologies; I neglected to outline the attendant, probable,

variations in the protocol. What I SHOULD have said in my original

post is " The visible, obviously homogenized, portion of the solution " ,

whenever I made the comment about the stability of the completed,

resultant, material. I believe you will gain a little better knowledge

of the results you achieved, after reading my most recent comment on

an inquiry by Sheila. Bottom line----your result was perfectly normal.

Interestingly, the meniscus may present at the top...or the

bottom.....or not at all. Usually if the initial material combination

has not run long enough to incorporate a majority of the lecithin (or

there is simply too much lecithin for the available ascorbic acid

fraction.... .the meniscus will form on the top of the

sample....within a few minutes after stopping the US agitation. If

your procedure has run acceptably well and----long enough to

homogenize well, any meniscus formation will, generally, present on

the BOTTOM after overnight storage---with or without refrigeration. In

any event, you are doing fine. If you do not want to consume the

isolated lecithin fraction you are observing, just decant the

homogenized liposome solution and dispose of the isolated lecithin

fraction. I hope this information helps your dilema. Sincerely,

Bradley. p.s. One just needs to continue to experiment " around-the-

edges " of this protocol, in order to achieve optimum results. Do not

be reluctant to do such...this IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE....just common

sense.

------------ --------- ---

Your question has been asked by others....(private inquires addressed

directly to me). In the interest of saving me time and energy, I offer

the following explanation. First, soy lecithin is a " slow "

incorporator, when introduced into aqueous mediums....sometime s.

Especially, when there is a high

lecithin granule population ratio----relative to the total water

volume. The general reaction is that a major percentage of the

lecithin blends readily with the the water medium, but there will

remain a definitive lecithin component which floats on the surface and

exhibits a somewhat " gelatinous " appearance (this is quite natural,

based upon the native characteristics of the substances involved). Do

not fret over encountering such circumstances. .....they will not

compromise the basic effectiveness of your protocol. However, it is of

some import to understand that the speed, and completeness, of the

incorporation of the granular lecithin---into the aqueous medium, is

affected by a number of conditions such as the total amount of

lecithin versus the total volume of water; the temperature of the

water-based solution and the strength of any other substance being

incorporated into the parent solution---- from very weak, to saturated

(none of which are seriously compromising). Under the best of

conditions, even after ultrasonic mixing for 8 to 9 minutes....there

is, often, a thin meniscus (a distinct separation between two or more

liquids in the same container). [Example: a thin layer of oil lying on

top of water.] In the liposome generation methodology we are

discussing, the visible, gelatinous, portion of the meniscus is

principally made up of unincorporated lecithin. Is IS NOT a

problem....in fact the lecithin component has useful, cardiovascular,

health-support effects----beyond those being discussed here.

Either (or both) of two measures may be executed to reduce the volume

of unincorporated lecithin you may be encountering. First, increasing

the volume of the total water fraction, or secondly, raising the

temperature of the total parent solution and extending the time of US

reaction exposure. One reason for the condition you are encountering

is that the closer one gets to achieving a saturated solution of

lecithin.... the more resistant the process becomes to accepting more

granular lecithin into that solution---- -until the point is reached

where no further material will incorporate- --hence, THE SATURATION

POINT IS EXPERIENCED.

In my brief, original post, I did not discuss the nuances of speed,

degree or completeness of dissolution of the lecithin---- or for that

matter--- the ascorbic acid fraction. Neither did I outline a number

of other considerations; such as the effects of varying the volume of

water versus the ratios of the solution components.. ..or the total

water volume versus the protocol components.. ..primarily, because

such elaborations would not serve usefulness/effectiv ity for the

nontechnical DIY person. I simply outlined a SAFE, mid-spectrum,

protocol allowing the average lay-person to achieve a measure of

acceptable results for home experimental research.

My personal bias is that it is better to have a small, uncombined,

lecithin fraction presenting as a meniscus.... .than to strive toward

what I perceive to be a cosmetic achievement- ---of small consequence.

.....by means of diluting the total solution. In any event the excess

lecithin is a positive addition.... .it is just not active in the

liposome process----- until some parameter changes that avails it the

opportunity participate in the encapsulation process.

My final comment on this subject: If it is of paramount importance to

one, regardless of reason.... by just increasing the water volume and

reactivating the US Cleaner for several minutes....the remaining

lecithin will (in almost all cases) go into the emulsified solution.

However, bear in mind, you have diluted the entire solution by an

equivalent strength---- -with NO increase in total vitamin C

component.

Please understand, these comments are not meant to browbeat

" anyone " .... in any way....but, rather, to aid the less technically-

informed on the list.

Sincerely, Bradley.

------------ ------

Although not scientifically rigorous, I offer a simple test which will

yield the

DIY researcher some element of confidence that they do, in fact, have

a useful measure of liposomal

encapsulate.

First, pour about 4 ounces of your finished Vitamin C encapsulate into

a cylindrical, 12 ounce

water glass. Next, place 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate into about

1 ounce of distilled water and stir

for 3 to 5 seconds. Next, pour the sodium bicarbonate solution into

the Vitamin C mixture and stir gently for several seconds. Note: If

the

foam/bubble line which forms on top is 1/2 inch or less---in

height---you have about a 50% encapsulation efficiency. If the

foam/bubble line is 3/8 of one inch...or less, you have about a 60%

efficiency. If the

foam/bubble line is 1/8 inch or less, you have about 75% efficiency.

If the foam/bubble line is just a trace.....you should major in

chemistry.

The percentages given above, represent the amount of the total Vitamin

C component incorporated during the encapsulation process.....that was

actually encapsulated. The less encapsulation....the greater the

foaming.

What is, actually, occurring in this test is that the ascorbic acid

fraction is being transformed into the sodium ascorbate form of

vitamin C. This test does not negatively affect the usefulness of the

solution you have tested.....as the isolated Vitamin C component is

not adversely affecting the encapsulate (which is being protected by

the lecithin bubble-covering.) Actually, the sodium ascorbate form of

vitamin C is greater than an order-of-magnitude more soluble for

tissue incorporation......than is the ascorbic acid form.

In any event this simple test should serve to raise the level of

confidence in the DIY researcher....

that they do---in fact---have a useful measure of encapsulated vitamin

C.

Sincerely, Bradley.

While our GSH encapsulation/evaluation experiments were conducted,

essentially, during the same time-frame as those involving vitamin

C....I have, as yet, made no comment to this list as to our specific

procedures/results involving GSH. However, GSH does demonstrate to be

of primary importance concerning the issue of basic human health. I

will strive, in the near future, to make some judicious comments on

our progress regarding GSH encapsulation using our basic, ultrasonic

methodology. In the meantime, common sense should serve as your guide

in conducting your OWN experiments. There is small chance you can

(using basic ultrasonic energy drivers)that you can evoke any

compromising circumstances or chemical modifications that would

produce negative substances for human health. At least, that has been

our experience.

We HAVE NOT attempted to encapsulate GSH and Vitamin C as a comsposite

mixture.

Red does demonstrate to be the most useful portion of the

spectrum....for the type of high-energy light applications to which I

have referred to in my recent posts. Our best results have been

achieved in the 660nm to 680nm range, but frequencies both above and

slightly below should effect useful....even if somewhat reduced

results. Note: The color of the unexcited BULB does not have to be

RED, but the COLOR it emits when under power.... does.

Sincerely, Bradley.

p.s. I do feel constrained to inform list members of a Caution

relating to temperatures of the liquid environment during excitation

of " most " of the Ultrasonic type cleaners presently in

use....excepting research applications.

To wit: As most of the Ultrasonic energy generators (constructed with

ceramic-based transducers), use materials composed, primarily of

barium titanate......understand they are quite vulnerable to high

temperatures [any thing over about 180 degrees F is a threat to

destroy their piezoelectric ability). Alternately, generators

employing Lead Zirconate Titanate have a much greater resistance to

more elevated temperatures, 212 F and higher. Few piezoelectric

devices available in the commercial market directed toward the

" lay-person " public....are constructed of Lead Zirconate materials.

Some of the ultrasonic generators (the cheapest ones) utilize

" magneto-strictive " transductors. That is, they are, essentially,

solenoid-type devices which respond to the rapidly changing current

flows furnished by their power-system drivers. Almost all, of either

type system, employ frequencies around 38 kilohertz or slightly

higher. It is of some concern that the experimenter keep ALL

electronic devices sensitive to high frequencies.....at least FOUR

feet away for an operating US generation system. This includes

ELECTRONIC WATCHES.

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On 2010-07-14 8:45 PM, Alvin Rose wrote:

> Guess that site is not working now....

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> * [ ] hOW TO MAKE lIPO C?

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>

> I HAVE THE ULTRASOUND MASHINE i CAN BUY THE CLINEST VIT C FOR 2

> POUND FOR $12 AND WHAT NEED TO DO? OR GIVE ME THE # OF THE

> MASSEGES AND i GOING TO FIND THAT WAY tnx GB