Re: Killing Capacity of MMS

[Guest guest]

So are you thinking MMS should act as a pesticide. These bugs must be visible,

yes? And nested in your skin? What type of bug? Do you reside in the USA?

" I have little brown beetle resembling bugs living in a lesion " .

--- In , " glen_d2n4 " <glen.d2n4@...>

wrote:

>

> I have a question. I have little brown beetle resembling bugs living in a

lesion. I didn't know what was causing the lesion. But after soaking for three

hours in MMS1 one of the little bugs came out of the lesion and appeared to be

dead. I saved it in a baggy for the doctor. After two hours it revived and

lived for days and days crawling around speedily and trying to burrow in. Its

behavior so exactly mimicked the pain I feel in the lesion that I know for sure

that the lesion is a nest for these bugs.

>

> Since then I have applied and sprayed with MMS continually with no success,

but when I pack it in clay I will get another bug out. MMS does NOT kill these

bugs!!! It really doesn't. What is your feedback on this please?

>

> Glenn

>

[Guest guest]

Okay. So MMS has no effect on insects? I am rather not-so-clear on the

difference I guess. Been solely organic my life, and not too educated or

experienced in the chemical realm. Before this illness took over my life, I

believed wholeheartedly in a healthy balance among all life if only compassion

and respect accompanied an intelligent approach to one's environment.

I do live in the US. I would like more clarification on this subject please.

Is MMS completely unnecessary for me with these bugs. I have NO IDEA what they

are. They are smaller than 1/32 of an inch and have sharp, downward pointing

noses to burrow with. They look designed completely for life inside a warm,

moist body. How could I find out what they are. I have three saved. This is

horrifying beyond the ability of words to describe, and recent to only this past

few days. Traumatizing to the point of causing one to be greatly unable to

function and to do nothing but sleep fitfully all day.

Any suggestions?

Glenn

--- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

wrote:

>

> So are you thinking MMS should act as a pesticide. These bugs must be visible,

yes? And nested in your skin? What type of bug? Do you reside in the USA?

>

> " I have little brown beetle resembling bugs living in a lesion " .

>

> --- In , " glen_d2n4 " <glen.d2n4@>

wrote:

> >

> > I have a question. I have little brown beetle resembling bugs living in a

lesion. I didn't know what was causing the lesion. But after soaking for three

hours in MMS1 one of the little bugs came out of the lesion and appeared to be

dead. I saved it in a baggy for the doctor. After two hours it revived and

lived for days and days crawling around speedily and trying to burrow in. Its

behavior so exactly mimicked the pain I feel in the lesion that I know for sure

that the lesion is a nest for these bugs.

> >

> > Since then I have applied and sprayed with MMS continually with no success,

but when I pack it in clay I will get another bug out. MMS does NOT kill these

bugs!!! It really doesn't. What is your feedback on this please?

> >

> > Glenn

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Glenn If you have a specimen take this to you local extension agency and have it

identified by your local University. If you have farm land or just a good office

they should tell you the pesticide to use if needed. But the University

entomologist will identify the creature.

http://www.csrees.usda.gov/Extension/

http://www.csrees.usda.gov/nea/pest/pest.cfm

I would not quit bathing in MMS if it were me, obviously even for lyme lesion

and morgellon it takes many treatment not just one hot bath. Perhaps some DMSO

mixed with the MMS for deeper penetration. I would continue with anything that

works, it sound like the MMS made this creature surface?

I would also continue for the bio-film with the MMS. Do you feel sickly to?

Morgellon will take you to your knees like lyme. It may sound crazy treatment

for my horses has been great for me to with lyme, and some morgellon symptoms. I

am very healthy now:) You may want to use a drawing salve on that infestation

to, like bag balm, or black salve.

http://myfineequine.com/parasite.htm

Also I would start on large doses of MSM and flower of sulfur, making you less

attractive to the creature. Just like a plant treating with sulfur, however

sulfur is one of the main elements of the human body. I feel the population is

deficient now of sulfur because of processing, storage, and handling of our

food. Perhaps try some lye lotion on the creature to, you can add flower of

sulfur to the lotion.

http://www.pennherb.com/cgi-bin/herbstore.cgi/herb?;Sulphur

--- In , " glen_d2n4 " <glen.d2n4@...>

wrote:

>

>

> Okay. So MMS has no effect on insects? I am rather not-so-clear on the

difference I guess. Been solely organic my life, and not too educated or

experienced in the chemical realm. Before this illness took over my life, I

believed wholeheartedly in a healthy balance among all life if only compassion

and respect accompanied an intelligent approach to one's environment.

>

> I do live in the US. I would like more clarification on this subject please.

Is MMS completely unnecessary for me with these bugs. I have NO IDEA what they

are. They are smaller than 1/32 of an inch and have sharp, downward pointing

noses to burrow with. They look designed completely for life inside a warm,

moist body. How could I find out what they are. I have three saved. This is

horrifying beyond the ability of words to describe, and recent to only this past

few days. Traumatizing to the point of causing one to be greatly unable to

function and to do nothing but sleep fitfully all day.

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> Glenn

>

>

> --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@>

wrote:

> >

> > So are you thinking MMS should act as a pesticide. These bugs must be

visible, yes? And nested in your skin? What type of bug? Do you reside in the

USA?

> >

> > " I have little brown beetle resembling bugs living in a lesion " .

> >

> > --- In , " glen_d2n4 " <glen.d2n4@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I have a question. I have little brown beetle resembling bugs living in a

lesion. I didn't know what was causing the lesion. But after soaking for three

hours in MMS1 one of the little bugs came out of the lesion and appeared to be

dead. I saved it in a baggy for the doctor. After two hours it revived and

lived for days and days crawling around speedily and trying to burrow in. Its

behavior so exactly mimicked the pain I feel in the lesion that I know for sure

that the lesion is a nest for these bugs.

> > >

> > > Since then I have applied and sprayed with MMS continually with no

success, but when I pack it in clay I will get another bug out. MMS does NOT

kill these bugs!!! It really doesn't. What is your feedback on this please?

> > >

> > > Glenn

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Glenn Here is the recipe for lye lotion, great for the outdoors person to. No

bugs or ivy. Ace hardware sells lye soap still, or make your own. I love my

homemade soaps:)

SKIN CONDITIONS

Folks tell us Lye Soap works wonderfully on several kinds of skin problems. Dry

scalp or dandruff, acne, eczema, psoriasis, skin allergies, insect bites, and

burns to name a few. Of course the key to having any luck with skin problems is

using the soap on a regular basis. Some conditions may require several

applications throughout the day to help the healing process go quicker. A Lye

Soap lotion works best for throughout the day application. ( I will tell you in

a bit how to make a lotion you can carry with you.)

LYE SOAP LOTION - HOW TO MAKE IT ( same process to make shampoo, dish soap and

plant spray as well )

To make a lotion out of the soap it is really very easy. In fact it is a good

way to recycle those small pieces left over from the shower. To make the lotion

just take several small pieces and mix them with water. We recommend you use

either a spring water or a distilled water. Something that has the impurities

removed. Especially if your using the lotion for a skin allergy or something of

the like. They put so many things in city water any more you don't know what you

may be mixing into your lotion thus maybe even irritating your condition

further. Also you may need to add a little heat when trying to get the soap and

water mix if the pieces are really hard. Not much heat just a bit. Anyway just

mix in enough water and stir it until you get the consistency you want for your

lotion or dish soap or shampoo, whatever it is your making the mix for. Now be

sure to put your mix into something relatively air tight so it won't dry right

back out. If you need to take it with you in your purse or something just get a

small squeeze bottle or a zip lock bag that your sure won't leak. We have also

been told if you thin down the solution enough you can use it as a plant spray

to keep unwanted bugs away from your plants.

WHAT MAKES LYE SOAP SO SPECIAL?

Actually what makes our soap special is because what it is - it is All Natural.

It is simply water, lard and lye. All natural products. We do not add any

hardeners, fragrances, perfumes or dyes, etc. The soaps we do offer that you can

smell comes from all natural oils to create that wonderful memory of Grandma's

place. In fact the main special ingredient in our soap comes from the natural

process called soponification. The process that takes place when the soap is

cooked properly creates a wonderful glycerin content that nearly all commercial

soap makers separate out and sell off to cosmetic companies and such. We don't

do that - we leave it right in the soap like it was meant to be. We believe the

glycerin to be the natural healing ingredient that makes lye soap so special and

also helps keep the wrinkles away. Most people guess me to be about 15 years

younger than I really am.

OTHER USES WE HAVE BEEN TOLD OF

Keep in mind we certainly have not tried everything we have been told over the

years but they tell us lye soap can be also be used for:

Catfish bait, hunters use it to remove scents before going out, keeping leather

conditioned, getting rid of head lice, soothing sunburns, greasing hinges and

drawer slides on your cabinets and doors, washing the dog, removing carpet

stains, and many more things I can't remember right off. Just keep an eye on our

Guest Book and see what folks come up with. Just when we thought we heard it all

someone will come along and tell us of some other use for it. As to whether it

really works or not you will just have to order some Lye Soap today and figure

it out for yourself. Just as we have been over the years you will really be

surprised how wonderful the soap is. Who knows you may even come up another use

we have not heard of yet!

One note on the catfish bait. The customer we have for this always makes sure we

pack and ship the original soap separate from anything scented. He says the

scents will bleed into the original and he won't catch any fish. However if

shipped separate he will catch several of the Big Ones every time!

> > > >

> > > > I have a question. I have little brown beetle resembling bugs living in

a lesion. I didn't know what was causing the lesion. But after soaking for

three hours in MMS1 one of the little bugs came out of the lesion and appeared

to be dead. I saved it in a baggy for the doctor. After two hours it revived

and lived for days and days crawling around speedily and trying to burrow in.

Its behavior so exactly mimicked the pain I feel in the lesion that I know for

sure that the lesion is a nest for these bugs.

> > > >

> > > > Since then I have applied and sprayed with MMS continually with no

success, but when I pack it in clay I will get another bug out. MMS does NOT

kill these bugs!!! It really doesn't. What is your feedback on this please?

> > > >

> > > > Glenn

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have found that treatment with MMS as a disinfectant makes my home and barn

less attractive to insects, the environment is not as friendly. Less bacteria

mold ect. I use this in my tri jet fogger. Also if you are dealing with visible

live insects cedarcide is great for the house animals and farm. This can also be

sued on the skin safely. This was created for the soldiers in Iraq because deet

was making them ill.

http://www.cedarcidestore.com/cedarproducts.html

> > > >

> > > > I have a question. I have little brown beetle resembling bugs living in

a lesion. I didn't know what was causing the lesion. But after soaking for

three hours in MMS1 one of the little bugs came out of the lesion and appeared

to be dead. I saved it in a baggy for the doctor. After two hours it revived

and lived for days and days crawling around speedily and trying to burrow in.

Its behavior so exactly mimicked the pain I feel in the lesion that I know for

sure that the lesion is a nest for these bugs.

> > > >

> > > > Since then I have applied and sprayed with MMS continually with no

success, but when I pack it in clay I will get another bug out. MMS does NOT

kill these bugs!!! It really doesn't. What is your feedback on this please?

> > > >

> > > > Glenn

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I might also add cedar will keep away venomous snakes, here we have rattlesnakes

and copperheads.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a question. I have little brown beetle resembling bugs living

in a lesion. I didn't know what was causing the lesion. But after soaking for

three hours in MMS1 one of the little bugs came out of the lesion and appeared

to be dead. I saved it in a baggy for the doctor. After two hours it revived

and lived for days and days crawling around speedily and trying to burrow in.

Its behavior so exactly mimicked the pain I feel in the lesion that I know for

sure that the lesion is a nest for these bugs.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since then I have applied and sprayed with MMS continually with no

success, but when I pack it in clay I will get another bug out. MMS does NOT

kill these bugs!!! It really doesn't. What is your feedback on this please?

> > > > >

> > > > > Glenn

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Glenn,

Try this...

You will need a spray bottle that holds at least 500 ml. Put 500 ml of

distilled water into the bottle and add 5 ml of 22.4% sodium chlorite. Spray

that on the area and let it air dry. This can be used 3 - 4 times a day, for

about a week. Then you need to reduce the concentration in half.

Caution: Under certain conditions, this solution is strong enough to cause

bleaching on some fabrics.

Note: 22.4% sodium chlorite = MMS and 5 ml = 1 level teaspoon.

Tom

--- In , " glen_d2n4 " <glen.d2n4@...>

wrote:

>

> I have a question. I have little brown beetle resembling bugs living in a

lesion. I didn't know what was causing the lesion. But after soaking for three

hours in MMS1 one of the little bugs came out of the lesion and appeared to be

dead. I saved it in a baggy for the doctor. After two hours it revived and

lived for days and days crawling around speedily and trying to burrow in. Its

behavior so exactly mimicked the pain I feel in the lesion that I know for sure

that the lesion is a nest for these bugs.

>

> Since then I have applied and sprayed with MMS continually with no success,

but when I pack it in clay I will get another bug out. MMS does NOT kill these

bugs!!! It really doesn't. What is your feedback on this please?

>

> Glenn

>

[Guest guest]

HH, these sound like great ideas. I am going to implement these suggestions.

Thank you so much.

I have a Tri-jet fogger. How much MMS do you use in the Tri Jet?

Normally I have been using 30drops MMS to a gallon (the Tri Jet holds a gallon,

right?) and I activate with the Bragg's Raw Apple Cider Vinegar, which I like

and will continue to do. At one point Humble wrote that he thought of all the

others, the Bragg's was the best. Haven't seen it lately, but he did write it a

few months back.

Something I sprayed the grounds with several months ago, is still killing almond

trees and other food producing necessities. I had sprayed around that time with

MMS, dry sulphur, Cedarcide, and other products. So the MMS is somewhat suspect

for me as dangerous for plant life. Your experience please?

Glenn

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a question. I have little brown beetle resembling bugs living

in a lesion. I didn't know what was causing the lesion. But after soaking for

three hours in MMS1 one of the little bugs came out of the lesion and appeared

to be dead. I saved it in a baggy for the doctor. After two hours it revived

and lived for days and days crawling around speedily and trying to burrow in.

Its behavior so exactly mimicked the pain I feel in the lesion that I know for

sure that the lesion is a nest for these bugs.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since then I have applied and sprayed with MMS continually with no

success, but when I pack it in clay I will get another bug out. MMS does NOT

kill these bugs!!! It really doesn't. What is your feedback on this please?

> > > > >

> > > > > Glenn

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Glenn,

As Healinghope has pointed out in several recent posts, low concentrations of

chlorine dioxide are all that is needed.

Plants thrive with a concentration of 5 PPM, but higher concentrations can be

detrimental.

30 drops of MMS in 1 gallon of water gives you a concentration of a little over

60 PPM.

With that said, some plants are much more tolerant to oxidation than others. I

have used higher concentrations and some plants have suffered from over spray

and survived without problems.

You also want to pay attention to the PH of your final solution. The MMS

protocol utilizes excess acid and the PH drops to the 3.6 - 4 range when using

apple cider vinegar for activation. Most plants prefer a more neutral PH.

Tom

--- In , " glen_d2n4 " <glen.d2n4@...>

wrote:

>

>

> HH, these sound like great ideas. I am going to implement these suggestions.

Thank you so much.

>

> I have a Tri-jet fogger. How much MMS do you use in the Tri Jet?

> Normally I have been using 30drops MMS to a gallon (the Tri Jet holds a

gallon, right?) and I activate with the Bragg's Raw Apple Cider Vinegar, which I

like and will continue to do. At one point Humble wrote that he thought of all

the others, the Bragg's was the best. Haven't seen it lately, but he did write

it a few months back.

>

> Something I sprayed the grounds with several months ago, is still killing

almond trees and other food producing necessities. I had sprayed around that

time with MMS, dry sulphur, Cedarcide, and other products. So the MMS is

somewhat suspect for me as dangerous for plant life. Your experience please?

>

> Glenn

>

>

[Guest guest]

I use no less than 10 drops activated and no more than 30 activated to the

gallon. Agree for plant life I would not use MMS, use sulfur or soap spray. For

soap spray I use lye or fels naptha. I wash all clothes with fels naptha. Also

granules work great for yard, lasting over 2 months. Takes water to activate

granules, keep pets and children off until dry. If using vinegar foe activator

and ingesting use on unfiltered vinegar such as braggs because of yeast. If

using in the fogger I would thin the pasteurizing would not matter for

activation.

http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/category_s/8.htm

http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/Fels_Naptha_Soap_p/dial1001.htm

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have a question. I have little brown beetle resembling bugs

living in a lesion. I didn't know what was causing the lesion. But after

soaking for three hours in MMS1 one of the little bugs came out of the lesion

and appeared to be dead. I saved it in a baggy for the doctor. After two hours

it revived and lived for days and days crawling around speedily and trying to

burrow in. Its behavior so exactly mimicked the pain I feel in the lesion that

I know for sure that the lesion is a nest for these bugs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since then I have applied and sprayed with MMS continually with no

success, but when I pack it in clay I will get another bug out. MMS does NOT

kill these bugs!!! It really doesn't. What is your feedback on this please?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Glenn

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

For sulfur on plants you will not need USP grade, I buy this at my feedmill.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have a question. I have little brown beetle resembling bugs

living in a lesion. I didn't know what was causing the lesion. But after

soaking for three hours in MMS1 one of the little bugs came out of the lesion

and appeared to be dead. I saved it in a baggy for the doctor. After two hours

it revived and lived for days and days crawling around speedily and trying to

burrow in. Its behavior so exactly mimicked the pain I feel in the lesion that

I know for sure that the lesion is a nest for these bugs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since then I have applied and sprayed with MMS continually with no

success, but when I pack it in clay I will get another bug out. MMS does NOT

kill these bugs!!! It really doesn't. What is your feedback on this please?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Glenn

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Also DE works great for plants. I mix this up and paint the bottom of fruit

trees, keeps ground insects away. I also feed this to all my animals horses cow

and cats dogs.

http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/defaq.html

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have a question. I have little brown beetle resembling bugs

living in a lesion. I didn't know what was causing the lesion. But after

soaking for three hours in MMS1 one of the little bugs came out of the lesion

and appeared to be dead. I saved it in a baggy for the doctor. After two hours

it revived and lived for days and days crawling around speedily and trying to

burrow in. Its behavior so exactly mimicked the pain I feel in the lesion that

I know for sure that the lesion is a nest for these bugs.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since then I have applied and sprayed with MMS continually with no

success, but when I pack it in clay I will get another bug out. MMS does NOT

kill these bugs!!! It really doesn't. What is your feedback on this please?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Glenn

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[Guest guest]

On 8/28/2010 12:28 PM, glen_d2n4 wrote:

> Since then I have applied and sprayed with MMS continually with no

> success, but when I pack it in clay I will get another bug out. MMS

> does NOT kill these bugs!!! It really doesn't. What is your

> feedback on this please?

That MMS is not for everything?

On 8/28/2010 1:24 PM, healinghope wrote:

> Glenn If you have a specimen take this to you local extension agency >

and have it identified by your local University. If you have farm

> land or just a good office they should tell you the pesticide to use >

if needed. But the University entomologist will identify the

> creature.

A word of additional advice - do NOT tell anyone where it came from

until you get a definitive answer as to what it is.

[Guest guest]

Very good point do not say the specimen came from your skin, not that I don't

believe because trust me I DO. Thanks for posting this:)

> > Glenn If you have a specimen take this to you local extension agency >

> and have it identified by your local University. If you have farm

> > land or just a good office they should tell you the pesticide to use >

> if needed. But the University entomologist will identify the

> > creature.

>

> A word of additional advice - do NOT tell anyone where it came from

> until you get a definitive answer as to what it is.

>

[Guest guest]

silverfox_science or anyone who has the wisdom and understanding to help me understand these questions?

how long does an activated 20 drops of mms1 last for?

and if i'm sick with a strong cold or flu, will the 20 drop activated mms1 be affective still in a half gallon of filtered water all day long?

From: silverfox_science <poast@...> Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 12:06:36 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Killing Capacity of MMS

Hello Glenn,As Healinghope has pointed out in several recent posts, low concentrations of chlorine dioxide are all that is needed. Plants thrive with a concentration of 5 PPM, but higher concentrations can be detrimental.30 drops of MMS in 1 gallon of water gives you a concentration of a little over 60 PPM.With that said, some plants are much more tolerant to oxidation than others. I have used higher concentrations and some plants have suffered from over spray and survived without problems.You also want to pay attention to the PH of your final solution. The MMS protocol utilizes excess acid and the PH drops to the 3.6 - 4 range when using apple cider vinegar for activation. Most plants prefer a more neutral PH.Tom>> > HH, these sound like great ideas. I am going to implement these suggestions. Thank you so much.> > I have a Tri-jet fogger. How much MMS do you use in the Tri Jet?> Normally I have been using 30drops MMS to a gallon (the Tri Jet holds a gallon, right?) and I activate with the Bragg's Raw Apple Cider Vinegar, which I like and will continue to do. At one point Humble wrote that he thought of all the others, the Bragg's was the best. Haven't seen it lately, but he did write it a few months back.> > Something I sprayed the grounds with several months ago, is still killing almond trees and other food producing necessities. I had sprayed around that time with MMS, dry sulphur, Cedarcide, and other products. So the MMS is somewhat suspect for me as

dangerous for plant life. Your experience please?> > Glenn> >

[Guest guest]

Is this morgellons? dee

On 28 Aug 2010, at 17:28, glen_d2n4 wrote:

> I have a question. I have little brown beetle resembling bugs living in a

lesion. I didn't know what was causing the lesion. But after soaking for three

hours in MMS1 one of the little bugs came out of the lesion and appeared to be

dead. I saved it in a baggy for the doctor. After two hours it revived and

lived for days and days crawling around speedily and trying to burrow in. Its

behavior so exactly mimicked the pain I feel in the lesion that I know for sure

that the lesion is a nest for these bugs.

>

> Since then I have applied and sprayed with MMS continually with no success,

but when I pack it in clay I will get another bug out. MMS does NOT kill these

bugs!!! It really doesn't. What is your feedback on this please?

>

> Glenn

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

When the sodium chlorite molecule is combined with citric acid, a chemical

reaction takes place in which chlorine dioxide is liberated, thus becoming a

profoundly powerful anti-pathogenic agent. In total, this effect remains active

for approximately 1 - 2 hours, or until such time that the chlorine dioxide

compound breaks down into harmless by products. MMS specifically targets tissues

within the body that are overly sensitive to oxygen. In effect, this preserves

the goodies, whilst knocking out the nasties within your digestive system!

The Society of American Analytical Chemists declared in 1999 that " chlorine

dioxide is the most effective pathogen destroyer known to man... "

http://mmsforlife.com/

> >

> >

> > HH, these sound like great ideas. I am going to implement these suggestions.

> >Thank you so much.

> >

> > I have a Tri-jet fogger. How much MMS do you use in the Tri Jet?

> > Normally I have been using 30drops MMS to a gallon (the Tri Jet holds a

gallon,

> >right?) and I activate with the Bragg's Raw Apple Cider Vinegar, which I like

> >and will continue to do. At one point Humble wrote that he thought of all the

> >others, the Bragg's was the best. Haven't seen it lately, but he did write it

a

> >few months back.

> >

> > Something I sprayed the grounds with several months ago, is still killing

> >almond trees and other food producing necessities. I had sprayed around that

> >time with MMS, dry sulphur, Cedarcide, and other products. So the MMS is

> >somewhat suspect for me as dangerous for plant life. Your experience please?

> >

> > Glenn

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I might add the drinking water is probably germ free, but for treatment

internally in the human body germs or pathogens will not be effected.

> >

> >

> > HH, these sound like great ideas. I am going to implement these suggestions.

> >Thank you so much.

> >

> > I have a Tri-jet fogger. How much MMS do you use in the Tri Jet?

> > Normally I have been using 30drops MMS to a gallon (the Tri Jet holds a

gallon,

> >right?) and I activate with the Bragg's Raw Apple Cider Vinegar, which I like

> >and will continue to do. At one point Humble wrote that he thought of all the

> >others, the Bragg's was the best. Haven't seen it lately, but he did write it

a

> >few months back.

> >

> > Something I sprayed the grounds with several months ago, is still killing

> >almond trees and other food producing necessities. I had sprayed around that

> >time with MMS, dry sulphur, Cedarcide, and other products. So the MMS is

> >somewhat suspect for me as dangerous for plant life. Your experience please?

> >

> > Glenn

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Immune Regulation Platform

Nuvo's second technology - an immune system regulation platform - is based on

WF10, a solution of OXO-K993 containing stabilized chlorite ions.

The immune system provides an essential defence to micro organisms, cancer and

substances it sees as foreign and potentially harmful. The Company's immune

system regulation platform, focuses on supporting the immune system by targeting

the macrophage, a type of white blood cell that coordinates much of the immune

system, to regulate normal immune function.

All immune system regulation research is carried out through Dimethaid AG in

which the Company has a 60% interest. Research and development activities

related to WF10 will be conducted at Nuvo Research GmbH, a wholly owned

subsidiary of Dimethaid AG.

http://www.nuvoresearch.com/pipeline/iregulation.asp

> > >

> > >

> > > HH, these sound like great ideas. I am going to implement these

suggestions.

> > >Thank you so much.

> > >

> > > I have a Tri-jet fogger. How much MMS do you use in the Tri Jet?

> > > Normally I have been using 30drops MMS to a gallon (the Tri Jet holds a

gallon,

> > >right?) and I activate with the Bragg's Raw Apple Cider Vinegar, which I

like

> > >and will continue to do. At one point Humble wrote that he thought of all

the

> > >others, the Bragg's was the best. Haven't seen it lately, but he did write

it a

> > >few months back.

> > >

> > > Something I sprayed the grounds with several months ago, is still killing

> > >almond trees and other food producing necessities. I had sprayed around

that

> > >time with MMS, dry sulphur, Cedarcide, and other products. So the MMS is

> > >somewhat suspect for me as dangerous for plant life. Your experience

please?

> > >

> > > Glenn

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

Chlorous acid (activated MMS) is unstable because the chlorine dioxide is very

energetic and tries to escape from the solution. Chlorine dioxide is also very

reactive to heat and UV light.

If you put a solution of chlorous acid into a cake pan and set it outside in the

sun, the effectiveness of the solution will only last for 30 - 60 minutes.

On the other hand, if you put the solution into a water bottle and put the lid

on and store it away from UV light and excess heat, it will still be effective

after 6 - 8 weeks, depending upon the concentration.

The answer to your question is that it will last anywhere from a few minutes to

several weeks, depending upon the dilution and storage conditions.

20 drops of MMS in 2 liters of water will give you a concentration of about 80

PPM available chlorine dioxide with about 8 PPM of that as free chlorine

dioxide. If you keep the bottle out of UV light there should be no problem

keeping that solution for a day.

Tom

>

> silverfox_science or anyone who has the wisdom and understanding to help me

> understand these questions?

>

> how long does an activated 20 drops of mms1 last for?

>

> and if i'm sick with a strong cold or flu, will the 20 drop activated mms1

be

> affective still in a half gallon of filtered water all day long?

>

[Guest guest]

Put simply chlorine dioxide as a biocide would be effective for up to 24 or 48

hours, as a bactericide and virucide the useful properties would be used up in 2

hours. Microorganisms are overlooked for ppm? This is my point. The byproduct,

chlorite (ClO2-), is a weak bactericidal agent. In water chlorine dioxide is

active as a biocide for at least 48 hours.

> > >

> > >

> > > HH, these sound like great ideas. I am going to implement these

suggestions.

> > >Thank you so much.

> > >

> > > I have a Tri-jet fogger. How much MMS do you use in the Tri Jet?

> > > Normally I have been using 30drops MMS to a gallon (the Tri Jet holds a

gallon,

> > >right?) and I activate with the Bragg's Raw Apple Cider Vinegar, which I

like

> > >and will continue to do. At one point Humble wrote that he thought of all

the

> > >others, the Bragg's was the best. Haven't seen it lately, but he did write

it a

> > >few months back.

> > >

> > > Something I sprayed the grounds with several months ago, is still killing

> > >almond trees and other food producing necessities. I had sprayed around

that

> > >time with MMS, dry sulphur, Cedarcide, and other products. So the MMS is

> > >somewhat suspect for me as dangerous for plant life. Your experience

please?

> > >

> > > Glenn

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Tom looks like pharmo has wised up and put a patten on chlorine dioxide. Tell me

Tom what is the ppm with this formula and patten? Is this not much stronger than

you have recognized?

http://www.nuvoresearch.com/pipeline/iregulation.asp

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > HH, these sound like great ideas. I am going to implement these

suggestions.

> > > >Thank you so much.

> > > >

> > > > I have a Tri-jet fogger. How much MMS do you use in the Tri Jet?

> > > > Normally I have been using 30drops MMS to a gallon (the Tri Jet holds a

gallon,

> > > >right?) and I activate with the Bragg's Raw Apple Cider Vinegar, which I

like

> > > >and will continue to do. At one point Humble wrote that he thought of all

the

> > > >others, the Bragg's was the best. Haven't seen it lately, but he did

write it a

> > > >few months back.

> > > >

> > > > Something I sprayed the grounds with several months ago, is still

killing

> > > >almond trees and other food producing necessities. I had sprayed around

that

> > > >time with MMS, dry sulphur, Cedarcide, and other products. So the MMS is

> > > >somewhat suspect for me as dangerous for plant life. Your experience

please?

> > > >

> > > > Glenn

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Biocide preparation

The stock solution of chlorine dioxide (Diox®, 5% w/vol, from " Beraca Sabará " )

was prepared as following: initially, 1 ml was transferred aseptically to 9 ml

of sterile distilled water in a glass tube. The content (10 ml) was sequentially

transferred to a flask containing 70 ml of sterile distilled water and

homogenized (final ClO2 concentration was 625 ppm). Product specifications can

be found in reference 4.

Minimum inhibitory concentration (MIC) of chlorine dioxide for bacteria

The experiments were carried out in sterile 50-ml Falcon tubes containing 10 ml

of final volume, with 9 ml of culture medium (MRS or Nutrient Broth), 0.2 ml of

the bacterial inoculum in log phase, chlorine dioxide in stock solution in a

quantity dependent on the dosage tested and saline solution (0.85% NaCl

solution) to complete the final volume. Triplicates for each treatment were

prepared and maintained at 30ºC or 37ºC, depending on the strain, for 24 hours,

following by the optical density determination at 540 nm, using non-inoculated

medium as reaction blank. Three control treatments were used: culture medium +

saline solution, culture medium + saline solution + biocide (lowest

concentration), culture medium + saline solution + biocide (highest

concentration), always keeping 10 ml as final volume. Concentrations of chlorine

dioxide ranging from 1 to 200 ppm were utilized, depending on the bacterial

strain. Experiments were repeated at least twice. The biocide Kamoran® at 3 ppm

was used for comparison.

Log-phase bacterial inoculum was as following (OD540/cultivation time): Bacillus

subtilis, 0.7 / 16h; Leuconostoc mesenteroides, 1.1 / 14h; Lactobacillus

plantarum, 0.7 / 14h; Lactobacillus fermentum, 1.1 / 9h.

RESULTS AND DISCUSSION

Initially, chlorine dioxide was used as antibacterial agent in concentrations of

10, 25 and 50 ppm for all bacterial strains. However, MIC was observed to be

probably under 10 ppm for B. subtilis. Subsequent tests with lower

concentrations confirmed that 10 ppm was the lowest concentration of chlorine

dioxide to inhibit this bacterium, with remarkable growth decrease in the range

of 1 to 10 ppm. With Kamoran®, the recommended concentration for usage in

fermentation tanks (3 ppm) was not efficient to suppress B. subtilis growth

(Fig. 1).

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext & pid=S1517-83822008000200026

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > HH, these sound like great ideas. I am going to implement these

suggestions.

> > > >Thank you so much.

> > > >

> > > > I have a Tri-jet fogger. How much MMS do you use in the Tri Jet?

> > > > Normally I have been using 30drops MMS to a gallon (the Tri Jet holds a

gallon,

> > > >right?) and I activate with the Bragg's Raw Apple Cider Vinegar, which I

like

> > > >and will continue to do. At one point Humble wrote that he thought of all

the

> > > >others, the Bragg's was the best. Haven't seen it lately, but he did

write it a

> > > >few months back.

> > > >

> > > > Something I sprayed the grounds with several months ago, is still

killing

> > > >almond trees and other food producing necessities. I had sprayed around

that

> > > >time with MMS, dry sulphur, Cedarcide, and other products. So the MMS is

> > > >somewhat suspect for me as dangerous for plant life. Your experience

please?

> > > >

> > > > Glenn

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Healinghope,

Why does the MMS solution only last 1 - 2 hours, when pure chlorine dioxide

products advertise that they are good for 15 days?

Here is a commercial product that produces pure chlorine dioxide in water. It

has EPA approval and has gone through all the testing to prove effectiveness.

Notice this statement...

" Store unused activated solution in a refrigerator or in a cool, dark place out

of direct sunlight. Use solution within 15 days of activation. "

http://www.selectivemicro.com/documents/2L500_pds572c.pdf?nav=61

Keep in mind that a pure chlorine dioxide solution breaks down much more rapidly

than a chlorous acid solution.

Tom

--- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

wrote:

>

> When the sodium chlorite molecule is combined with citric acid, a chemical

reaction takes place in which chlorine dioxide is liberated, thus becoming a

profoundly powerful anti-pathogenic agent. In total, this effect remains active

for approximately 1 - 2 hours, or until such time that the chlorine dioxide

compound breaks down into harmless by products. MMS specifically targets tissues

within the body that are overly sensitive to oxygen. In effect, this preserves

the goodies, whilst knocking out the nasties within your digestive system!

>

> The Society of American Analytical Chemists declared in 1999 that " chlorine

dioxide is the most effective pathogen destroyer known to man... "

> http://mmsforlife.com/

[Guest guest]

Apples and Oranges Tom. Once again this is a biocide process. The question was

drinking at room temperature, sipping throughout the day.

>

>

> Hello Healinghope,

>

> Why does the MMS solution only last 1 - 2 hours, when pure chlorine dioxide

products advertise that they are good for 15 days?

>

> Here is a commercial product that produces pure chlorine dioxide in water. It

has EPA approval and has gone through all the testing to prove effectiveness.

Notice this statement...

>

> " Store unused activated solution in a refrigerator or in a cool, dark place

out of direct sunlight. Use solution within 15 days of activation. "

>

> http://www.selectivemicro.com/documents/2L500_pds572c.pdf?nav=61

>

> Keep in mind that a pure chlorine dioxide solution breaks down much more

rapidly than a chlorous acid solution.

>

> Tom

>

>

> --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@>

wrote:

> >

> > When the sodium chlorite molecule is combined with citric acid, a chemical

reaction takes place in which chlorine dioxide is liberated, thus becoming a

profoundly powerful anti-pathogenic agent. In total, this effect remains active

for approximately 1 - 2 hours, or until such time that the chlorine dioxide

compound breaks down into harmless by products. MMS specifically targets tissues

within the body that are overly sensitive to oxygen. In effect, this preserves

the goodies, whilst knocking out the nasties within your digestive system!

> >

> > The Society of American Analytical Chemists declared in 1999 that " chlorine

dioxide is the most effective pathogen destroyer known to man... "

> > http://mmsforlife.com/

>