Re: Homemade Liposomal C for Cancer

August 24, 2010

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> Making Homemade Liposomal Vitamin C

> Bill Sardi

> (Updated July 2010) On a fairly regular basis Bill Sardi

> generates something of great importance to those challenged with

> cancer. This past year was no exception. Bill has done the legwork to

> locate and post (complete with links to backup studies) evidence that

> Liposomal Vitamin C is capable of killing cancer.

> While many have long held the suspicion oral Liposomal Vitamin C

> would kill cancer cells (just as intravenous Vitamin C) we lacked proof

> or studies to back up that belief. Well, no longer.

> Posted January 2010 is a terrific Bill Sardi article titled â€œResearchers

Achieve Cancer-Killing Effect With Oral-Dose Vitamin Câ€œ. Read it carefully

and make judicious use of the supporting links.

> Donâ€™t miss the reference to sugarâ€™s negative impact on Vitamin C

> absorption. Whether you decide to make your own homemade Liposomal

> Vitamin C Ascorbate or purchase one of the commercial versions it is

> clear you have a significant new option with scientific backing.

>

> Reminder: If making homemade Liposomal Vitamin C

> you will want to consider making the Ascorbate version for blood pH.

> At the high levels of supplementation needed (several tablespoons daily) to

affect cancer blood pH is an important consideration.

> If you are near symptom free you can verify the efficacy of a Liposomal

Vitamin C protocol using the Navaro HCG test. Weâ€™ll be interested in hearing

of your experiences.

> The recipe and supplement sources following will allow you to make

> quality liposomal encapsulated Vitamin C Ascorbate at a fraction of the

> cost of purchasing readymade Encapsulated Vitamin C or un-encapsulated Vitamin

C Ascorbate.

>

> The cancer fighting ability of high dose Vitamin C has been known and used for

years by medical doctors around the world. Doctors use Vitamin C Ascorbate to

infuse intravenously into the body to keep the blood pH from becoming acidic.

(See Acidosis) The pH of blood in the human is tightly regulated by the body at

7.35 â€ " 7.45, or just slightly basic.

> The various manufacturers of production Liposomal Vitamin C all use

> the Vitamin C Ascorbate form for the blood pH reason discussed above.

> For all the reasons above we recommend the following recipe over our

> prior homemade liposomal Vitamin C recipes which did not contain

> bicarbonate of soda.

>

> What follows is a discussion by Bradley regarding Liposomal

Encapsulation Techniques:

> Dear List Members, I have been somewhat

> remiss in not supplying additional information which might make

> prosecuting an acceptable generation processâ€¦.somewhat easier. To that

> end, I offer a few elaborating comments. First, using some form

> of blender to enhance/accelerate the process is perfectly

> acceptableâ€¦.and effective. However, one must understand the limitations

> of using this modality. To wit: Because the entire encapsulation process

> is, essentially, a refined homogenization process the researcher is

> bound within the limits of the chosen processâ€¦.itself. e.g. Using a

> blender in the early stages of the ultrasonic type protocol, places a

> limit (especially particle size) on the resultant compounds. As a

> general rule, the smallest liposomes achievableâ€¦are going to be larger

> than 150 nm in sizeâ€ " -even after extensive agitating. Therefore, if

> smaller particles are desiredâ€¦..some procedure must be invoked to

> achieve this. Ultrasonic energy is an excellent way to achieve this.

Ultrasonic

> energy applied to solutions having, previously, been mixed using

> mechanical blenders (of the household type) will improve the

> encapsulation process greatly (sometimes as much as an order of

> magnitude) through the immediate size reduction of the encapsulated

> particle size. Additionally, both power levels and exposure

> time experienced from the US energyâ€¦â€¦have a pronounced effect on the end

> product. e.g. simply by extending the time exposed to the US energy

> will yield a product with a majority of particles of a markedly reduced

> physical size (sometimes by more than one-half). Also, by

> increasing the power spectral density [energy delivered to the target],

> considerable size and complexity reduction may be achieved. (Sometimes from

larger, multiple-layered liposomes, down to single-layered liposomes of much

smaller size). This one characteristic, alone, should justify the selection of

the larger US unit

> over the smaller oneâ€¦.as the larger US power level output is much

> higher. The way to capitalize on this advantage is to limit the depth of

> the parent solution in the larger US unit, to 3/4â€³ to 1â€³. Because

> the distance from the US energy! source and the mass of the target

> material DOES, in fact, have a powerful effect on the delivered energy.

> Direct visual observation alone, will confirm the powerful increase in

> cavitations (energy field) of the liquid medium. This type innovation

> will yield effects that in some casesâ€¦.challenge the results of

> laboratory-grade, high pressure (over 3000 psi) impact plate

> systemsâ€¦..costing $10,000 and up. What most commercial

> producers (and labs) do, is they RECIRCULATE their candidate

> solutionsâ€¦..in order to achieve smallerâ€ " -and more isolatedâ€ " -end

> products. By extending your exposure time, using shallow solutions, DIYs

> canâ€¦in many cases, actually challenge, to some degree, the levels

> accomplished by these very high dollar commercial machinesâ€¦..using their

> own DIY homemade systems. Someone asked the questionâ€¦does

> pre-agitation via blending devices damage or compromise the candidate

> solutions. The short answer is NO. Almost any type of agitation aids in

> the homogenization process. I have some descriptive information

> relative to the use of blending devices, which may prove of use to the

> list membership, but I must go at this time. Sincerely, Bradley.

>

> Ultra-Sonic Cleaner

> This recipe will give you a product between 7.0 and 7.5 (measured with

Alkalive pH Stix)

> or similar pH to human blood so there is no risk of over acidifying

> your blood should you take significant amounts of your homemade

> Liposomal Vitamin C Ascorbate.

> (Blood pH is tightly controlled by the body at near 7.35 pH. If

> your blood pH were much above or below that number you would be a very

> sick person.)

> Creating an identical pH in your liposomal brew is simply a matter of

carefully adjusting the level of bicarbonate of soda.

> This Vitamin C Ascorbate recipe is a compilation of several postings on forums

and Pdazzlerâ€™s own trials in the kitchen.

> Using a small (2 cup) Ultrasonic cleaner, (Item #03305, obtainable from Harbor

Freight @ about $30.00), we performed the following:

> 1. In qt mixing jar pour 1 cup of distilled water. Add 3 level Tablespoons of

granular soy lecithin (NOW has non-genetically modified soy lecithin) and

agitate vigorously for 3 â€ " 5 minutes.

> Then place the lecithin mixture in the refrigerator for two or more hours.

(You can leave in refrigerator overnight if you prefer.) This allows lecithin

granules to soak up water for easy mixing into solution.

> Note: Mixing can be accomplished easier if you

> raise the temperature of the distilled water being used to 45 degrees

> Celsius (113 degrees Fahrenheit). I have found this unnecessary in getting

high quality mixtures but others have found this warmer temperature helpful.

> After 2 hour soaking period vigorously agitate the mixture for

> another 3 â€ " 5 minutes. At the conclusion there should be no lecithin

> granules visible. Set this smooth lecithin mixture aside.

> 2. Dissolved 1 level Tablespoon of Pharmaceutical grade Vitamin C powder in 2

oz. of distilled water. We recommend you use a 6 oz. or larger screw lid jar

so you can shake vigorously.

> Vitamin C Foundation

> 3. Dissolve Â¾ Teaspoon of Bobâ€™s Red Mill Bicarbonate of Soda

> (Bobâ€™s is Aluminum free) in 2 oz. of distilled water using a separate 6

> oz. or larger screw lid jar. Shake or agitate the mixture 3 minutes

> or until soda dissolved.

> *One mole of sodium bicarbonate is 84 grams, and one mole of

> ascorbic acid is 176 grams. So, the correct (stoichiometric) ratio of

> sodium bicarbonate to ascorbic acid is 84/176 = 0.477. For example, it

> would take 477 milligrams of sodium bicarbonate to neutralize 1000

> milligrams of ascorbic acid.

> **What follows is often the most difficult part of the process for those new

to making homemade liposomal Vitamin C Ascorbate.

> While stirring the Vitamin C / distilled water solution very slowly

> pour/dribble the dissolved bicarbonate of soda/water mixture into the

> Vitamin C / distilled water solution. (Pour soda solution very

> slowly as the resulting mixture will bubble. By pouring slowing and

> constantly stirring you will be able to mix the two without bubbling

> over.)

> At the conclusion of mixing the bicarbonate of soda mixture into the

> Vitamin C mixture all bubbling will cease. If you have any soda

> settled in the jar pour the resulting total mix together into that jar,

> swirl and pour the resulting Vitamin C / Bicarbonate of Soda mixture

> into the Ultrasonic Cleaner.

> 4. Pour the Lecithin solution into ultrasonic cleaner bowl with the

> Vitamin C / Bicarbonate of Soda mixture and stir the contents together.

> 5. Turn the ultrasonic cleaner on and using a plastic straw (leaving

> the top of the cleaner opened), gently, slowly, stirred the contents.

> Note: The cleaner will, automatically, self-stop about every 2

> minutes. Just push ON button to continue. Repeat for a total of 6 series

> (12 â€ " 18 minutes). By that time the entire solution should be blended

> into a cloudy, homogeneous, milk-like mixture. The LET solution is now

> well formed.

> You can raise the level of encapsulation by continuing several more ultrasonic

cycles if desired.

> This protocol furnishes 12 grams (12000mg.) of Vitamin C Ascorbate.

> At 70% â€ " 90% encapsulation efficiency, 8400 mg would be of the LET type.

This solution will keep, acceptably, at room temperature for 3 to 4 days.

Refrigerated, it will keep much longer.

> Note: A larger, more powerful, ultrasonic cleaner is available at Harbor

Freight. Item number 91593. 2+ liters, for about $80.00. Both units perform

well. The larger unit will allow you to make higher quality liposomal or more

encapsulated supplement at one time, depending on the amount you mix.

>

> Since Encapsulated Vitamin C Ascorbate is reportedly more efficient

> then intravenous Vitamin C make dosing increases and adjustments slowly

> paying close attention to your body.

> 2 oz. of Encapsulated Vitamin C Ascorbate is equals 16 â€ " 20 oz. of

> intravenous Vitamin C so when you take a couple of 2 oz. doses in a day

> itâ€™s like taking 16 â€ " 20 oz. in your veins twice during the day.

> With cancer you can create a Herxheimerâ€™s effect crisis and overwhelm

> your bodyâ€™s ability to dispose of the dead cancer cells if youâ€™re too

> aggressive in your approach. Point being, start off easy (say a couple

> of one oz. doses a day) and work up slowly until your body says this is

> a good level.

> Then plan to stay on your therapeutic dose level for a specific short

> period. Example: a few weeks to 90 days maximum. Treat this

> supplement much like you would intravenous Vitamin C. Listen to your

> body and donâ€™t overdo it!

> If youâ€™re working on a serious cancer threat use frequent Navarro tests to

keep track of the progress you are making.

> Pdazzler

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> 13 comments to Homemade Liposomal C

>

> Ken

>

> April 14, 2010 at 5:18 pm

>

> ,

> I see that in your list of Doctors/Healers you have ph Mercola,

> D.O. listed as ph Mercola, M.D. For the sake of accuracy and to

> maintain your own well-deserved credibility, I thought youâ€™d want to

> correct this. You may also want to check out, for consideration as

> additions to your list, leading â€œfunctional medicineâ€ theorist and

> practitioner, Mark Hyman, M.D., Zieve, M.D., and Null, Ph.D.

> Thanks for all your great work in encouraging people to take responsibility

for their own health.

> Sincerely,

>

> Ken

>

> Bloomington, IN

>

> Pdazzler

>

> April 15, 2010 at 3:47 pm

>

> Ken,

> Thanks for your thoughtful remarks. I corrected DR Mercolaâ€™s link.

> Sloppy work on my part there. Being familiar with Hull and Mark

> Hyman I added them immediately. Should have been up weeks ago, thanks

> for the prod. On Doctor Zieve, thanks so much for the heads up. I

> was not familiar with Dr. Zieveâ€™s facility or his practice. Spent some

> time researching and decided he deserves a link as well.

> Rest assured, I will continue encouraging people to take

> responsibility. Individuals who accept responsibility are invariably

> successful whatever the challenge. Those who do not are pretty much

> doomed to failure. I find this to be especially true when it comes to

> the serious cancers.

> Pdazzler

>

> Laurie

>

> April 21, 2010 at 1:51 am

>

> Can you use egg lecithin instead of soy? I have never been able to tolerate

soy lecithin.

>

> Pdazzler

>

> April 21, 2010 at 4:25 am

>

> Laurie,

>

> I have no experience using egg lecithin v/s soy. I am aware of posts

> eslewhere on the web where individuals have experimented but they were

> not detailed enough to lead me to any firm conclusion. If you give it a

> try let us know your perceptions.

>

> Pdazzler

>

> D.

>

> July 12, 2010 at 6:03 pm

>

> Hi, interesting and informative post. I have been treating my

> aggressive form of leukemia (idiopathic myelofibrosis) with oral vitamin

> C and selenium. I take up to 60 grams per day of pharmaceutical vitamin

> c and 2.5ml per day of selenium (veterinary). What is considered a

> terminal and untreatable conditon and as my oncologist said, the worst

> of the worst diagnosis to get, I turned my condition around in 5 weeks. I

> still have a slightly elevated white cell count 6 months after my

> diagnosis on the 23rd of December last year and I am looking to move

> across to liposomal Vitamin C as it appears to be more efficient. I have

> purchased a large unit. It has twin ultrasonic transducers and is very

> powerful. However, I have read that it is not advisable to put the

> solution directly into the stainless steel container as it will leach

> metals into the solution and to use a glass container instead. I find

> the very lightweight glass container that I am using negates the

> powerful ultrasonic effect. Do you have experience with this and what

> are your recommendations regarding pouring the liposomal solution

> directly into the stainless steel container.

>

> Pdazzler

>

> July 12, 2010 at 8:33 pm

>

> Hi ,

> Wow, I donâ€™t think I have known anyone on 60 grams. I did 30 â€ " 40

> grams years back but my bowel tolerance was somewhere around 35 g in

> those days. I have not used mega doses of C for a long time as I have

> not needed them. Obviously you found a potent personal protocol.

> Five weeks is spectacular although I suspect blood cancers do act

> quicker than others.

> 2.5 ml Selenium sounds like the level Dr. Steve was using a

> few years back. If my memory is right that 500 mcg daily which I think

> Dr. Steve found you could take indefinitely. I currently do 250 mcg

> Selenium daily or a little over 1 ml in my maintenance protocol. I

> applaud you veterinarian source. I use some veterinarian stuff myself.

>

> I hope you will allow me to follow your progress as you switch to

> Liposomal C. While I have seen lots of data on Liposomal its always

> better to find individuals that have done both intravenous and Liposomal

> and get their input on each.

> I make my liposomals in the small unit. I think you are wise to use

> the more powerful unit and make small batches in it. I would expect

> the liposomes would be significantly smaller with much less time needed

> to make a quality batch.

> As to leaching of metals, that is news to me. If stainless steel

> isnâ€™t safe we have a lot more problems with food than homemade

> liposomals. Kidding aside, if you could post or email the reference

> Iâ€™ll give it a read. Currently, I am inclined to discount it. I

> would be amazed if I found the commercial labs are making liposomals in

> glass units. I would bet they are using stainless steel.

> I make my liposomals by pouring mixes directly into the clean stainless steel

ultrasonic units pan.

> I do have a combination lipisomal with Vitamin C, Curcumin and

> Resveratrol in the works. It is a little more complicated to make but

> holds the promise of additional effectiveness against cancers. Iâ€™ll

> try and get the recipe posted in the next week. â€ " Pdazzler

>

> D.

>

> July 13, 2010 at 5:58 am

>

> Hi Pdazzler, Thanks for the fast reponse. 60 â€ " 65gram is about my

> bowel tolerance. I did read that if one is ill, the bowel tolerance is

> higher. This would explain why the wife struggles with 12grams daily and

> she is very healthy. The amount of Selenium (sodium selenite) I use is

> 2.5 â€ " 3ml per day (1000mcg per 1ml_ in 250ml of filtered water. I was

> taking 5ml per day, but it was causing me to vomit. I couldnâ€™t purchase

> this in any other form in Australia except through veterinary suppiers.

> It works well with animals, but it is obviously too effective on humans

> for it to be allowed here and US. This is a link regarding leaching of

> stainless steel â€ "

http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2 & t=7499 & start=45

> In regards to my fast turn-around. My oncologist had been on holidays

> and insisted I must have had a blood transfusion as my result was

> impossible to achieve by itself (he was obviously referring to

> conventional medical wisdom). When I informed him what I had taken, he

> then understood. What pisses me off, is that the system would have let

> me die. Fortunate for me, my father was formerly a director of Health

> and he told me previously that most doctors have not one ounce of logic

> or commonsense. If they give you some advice that sounds like garbage,

> it is more than likely is garbage.

> It seems cancer suffers in OZ are moving to apricot kernals and 42

> per day is the considered norm with 12 being used for maintenance. My

> sister inlaw has (or had) lung tumour (primary) with her bones riddled

> with cancer (secondary). I couldnâ€™t convince her to try vitamin C or

> kernals as her brother is a doctor and said it is all quackery

> (Ignorance of the highest level). When she was at the pallitive care

> stage, she thought she had nothing to lose by trying apricot kernals.

> Within 4 weeks, she was back at work in the family business and a CT

> scan indicated that the tumour had shrunk 20% in this period. Needless

> to say, 6 months later she has no more pain and is expecting scans in

> November (ultrasound) to show the all clear. She also finally woke up to

> the fact that CT scans were killing her just as fast as the cancer and

> that her doctor brother is d*ckhead.

> I will keep you posted on how I go with the DIY lipsomal manufacture.

> I was also considering drying the liposomal solution and putting it in

> capsules. This would allow me to carry a quantity with me as I travel

> alot.

>

> Pdazzler

>

> July 15, 2010 at 5:26 pm

>

> Those following this post may be interested in my new homemade

> combination liposomal which contains Vitamin C, Resveratrol and

> Curcumin. I expect it to be viable with a large range of cancers. â€ "

> Pdazzler

> Combination Liposomal http://www.pdazzler.com/archives/1005

>

> Sid

>

> July 19, 2010 at 2:15 am

>

> Hi Pdazzler,

> First thank you for your valuable efforts. Your site has been very helpful to

us.

> In your recipe above you state, â€œthe correct (stoichiometric) ratio

> of sodium bicarbonate to ascorbic acid is 84/176 = 0.477. For example,

> it would take 477 milligrams of sodium bicarbonate to neutralize 1000

> milligrams of ascorbic acid.â€ I assume the 0.477 ratio is valid only for

> weight. And if so, is sodium bicarbonate heavier than vitamin C?

> Because 0.477 of 1 tablespoon(3 teaspoons) is more than 3/4 teaspoon.

> Also, I followed the above recipe and made a batch using the larger

> Ultrasound cleaner and running it for about 9 1/2 minutes. However when

> I tested the PH of the resulting product it was somewhere between 5 to 5

> 1/2. Did I do something wrong? Should I have tested the mixture before

> pouring it in the cleaner?

> Regards,

> Sid.

>

> Pdazzler

>

> July 19, 2010 at 5:04 pm

>

> Hi Sid,

>

> I donâ€™t disagree with your math. My suspicion is lecithin itself is not

> a perfectly neutral substance and likely is basic if one were to

> measure its pH prior to adding Vitamin C, bicarbonate of soda, or some

> other substance. (This I have not done but will try and remember to

> check on my next batch.)

> Additionally, I have a small scale and for kicks I weighed a

> tablespoon of prescription Vitamin C (from the Vitamin C Foundation) at

> 18 grams and a tablespoon of bicarbonate of soda (Bobâ€™s Red Mill) at 11

> grams. As you see, these weights do not come close to the

> (Stoichiometric) ratio.

> I determined the amount of bicarbonate of soda to add through actual

> experimentation. 3/4 teaspoon has resulted in 7.0pH â€ " 7.5pH Liposomal

> Vitamin C over a dozen or more batches produced. I am confident the

> recipe amount of 3/4 teaspoon will buffer the Liposomal to that range

> if the amount of Vitamin C and Lecithin is as noted in the recipe.

> I use pH Ion test stix to check the pH. I have found no difference in pH

reading before and after running in ultrasonic unit.

> I doubt you have done anything wrong and would not be surprised to

> learn that differing brands of Vitamin C, Lecithin (I use NOW non-GMO)

> and bicarbonate of soda could result in slightly differing pH readings.

> I am quite surprised to see you got a reading of 5 to 5.1pH and am

> interested in what type of test strips you are using. pH Ion is only

> accurate to .25 and there is some subjectivity in reading their stix.

> If you desire to buffer you Liposomal more warm it slightly, place in

> seal-able jar, add small amounts of bicarbonate of soda until buffered

> to desired range. Agitate or shake vigorously to dissolve soda. Place

> back into your ultrasonic cleaner and run 8 â€ " 10 minutes. Should be

> just fine. â€ " Pdazzler

>

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Re: Homemade Liposomal C for Cancer

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