Colloidal Silver

[Guest guest]

Since my antiobio stopped working I have started colloidal silver (while

trying new antibio's)--and I have had pain relief for the first time in 2

yrs!! And herx's! And I'm starting to improve...

But be careful with it--there is a lot of info on the net and some scares

that it causes your skin to turn blue. I believe that is from silver nitrate

not silver, but you need to investigate for yourself. I take Source Natural

30ppm (local health store) and it has worked wonderfully. But some other

brands have not worked at all.

I don't know how long one can continue to take it without any side

effects--altho supposedly there are none for CS. So I'm cautiously continuing.

Laney

In a message dated 99-04-24 00:36:44 EDT, roausili@... writes:

<< I was wondering if anyone knows about how good colloidal

silver is as an antibiotic. I've read a lot about it here and there

and on the net. Whatever I read indicates that it should be a

pretty good and safe antibiotic. Could this be effective against

the kind of infection that could cause rheumatoid arthritis or

other autoimmune diseases?

Ausili >>

[Guest guest]

True, but if it CS helps... any reason not to try both? My dr had no concerns

as long as not too high ppm.

And at some desparate point it just doesn't matter anymore--I wish I would

have tried CS on my downward slide starting 2 yrs ago--I now finally feel

like I have something that would slow it when the antibio stops working. You

may understand what a helpless feeling it is when nothing is working and you

are getting worse fast. I kept experimenting with new antibio, but until you

get the right one (2 yrs later...)...

Laney

In a message dated 99-04-24 09:44:45 EDT, cadlard@... writes:

<< I've heard that colloidal silver has some antibiotic properties, but it

isn't the approach we would recommend for rheumatoid arthritis and

other rheumatic diseases. The protocol for these diseases is basically

minocycline or doxycycline (some other antibiotics are also used). For

serious disease, clindamycin or lincocin is added. This protocol was used

by Dr. McPherson Brown for over 10,000 patients during his 52 year

medical practice. >>

[Guest guest]

Hi - welcome to the group

I've heard that colloidal silver has some antibiotic properties, but it

isn't the approach we would recommend for rheumatoid arthritis and

other rheumatic diseases. The protocol for these diseases is basically

minocycline or doxycycline (some other antibiotics are also used). For

serious disease, clindamycin or lincocin is added. This protocol was used

by Dr. McPherson Brown for over 10,000 patients during his 52 year

medical practice.

You'll find the exact protocols in our FAQ at www.rheumatic.org/faq.htm -

let us know if we can help with more information.

Chris.

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Ausili wrote:

>

> I was wondering if anyone knows about how good colloidal

> silver is as an antibiotic. I've read a lot about it here and there

> and on the net. Whatever I read indicates that it should be a

> pretty good and safe antibiotic. Could this be effective against

> the kind of infection that could cause rheumatoid arthritis or

> other autoimmune diseases?

[Guest guest]

I've done a lot of reading on colloidal silver. It seems that

around 5ppm is the best overall concentration to use.

Supposedly, the heavier concentrations will have larger

particles of silver. You want the smallest particles possible.

I think the condition where the skin turns a bluish or

silver color happens with high concentrations of silver,

from a large variety of sources, such as industrial sources.

This could possibly happen with very high concentrations

of colloidal silver too. But don't use high concentrations.

I don't think there are supposed to be any side effects from

the use of colloidal silver, or at least I've never heard of that.

I have heard of the Herxheimer reaction where a large, sudden

killoff of microorganisms happens. From what I've read, more

water needs to be consumed to help the body rid itself of toxins

when this happens. Also, this link that someone sent explains

ways of reducing the Herxheimer effect:

http://www.rheumatic.org/faq.htm

Also, heavy concentrations of colloidal silver could make it

down the intestinal tract and kill the beneficial microorganisms,

just like any other antibiotic. But light concentrations are

not supposed to do this.

Ausili

roausili@...

> Since my antiobio stopped working I have started colloidal silver (while

> trying new antibio's)--and I have had pain relief for the first time in 2

> yrs!! And herx's! And I'm starting to improve...

>

> But be careful with it--there is a lot of info on the net and some scares

> that it causes your skin to turn blue. I believe that is from silver

nitrate

> not silver, but you need to investigate for yourself. I take Source

Natural

> 30ppm (local health store) and it has worked wonderfully. But some other

> brands have not worked at all.

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[Guest guest]

Hi, All -- posted once about this already, but I too have read some adverse

things about using them. That really burst my bubble. Dr. Weil in particular

wrote negatively about them in one of his newsletters.

An alternative to the colloidal minerals might be a mineral preparation

mentioned to me in an e-mail last year. This friend had already had one joint

replacement and was headed for another when his friend from Marble Falls, a

pharmacist and owner of Michel's Drug Store there, had him try a Glucosamine

preparation and some minerals. I've copied and pasted his note so you will know

what I know. Anyway, he's still happy as a lark at his improvement. He

literally lives on the golf course, and lives to play golf. My son has had

problems with his knees so I inquired about the specifics of what he was taking.

" We got to Mansfield yesterday from Ruidoso. I am going to play in

a golf tournament with my son-in-law this week end and will be back in

Horseshoe Bay the 15th. I called up my messages on the computer and received you

e-mail sent yesterday asking about the minerals that I have been taking for my

arthritis.

Don't know if they are the cause of my good fortune or not, but I am afraid to

stop taking them. I got them from Doug Michel in Marble Falls so I am sure they

are harmless. I'm sure any health food store should have them or maybe your

drug store. (snip) suggested that we should take a liquid called Essential

Minerals, which has lots of minerals in it. Doug Michel suggested I take a

capsule called GLUCOSALAGE SO4. It is a combination of Glucosamine Sulfate,

Cat's Claw and Shark Cartilage. I am reading that information from the bottle,

not that I am that smart. The Essential Minerals is a liquid.

My doctor told me to take three or four Aleve each day and play as long as I

could. I still am taking two aleve at breakfast and one with the evening meal.

Since I am still playing golf and not hurting, I am afraid to stop what I am

doing. I'm sure the Doctor figured I would be back in a couple of weeks for a

knee replacement. I have not been back to see him. Lets hope it continues.

(snip) I trust this is the info you requested. Write me if you have more

questions.

Til later, RC "

Billie

rheumatic Colloidal Silver

Group

When I read the post about colloidal silver this morning I was excited

and thought about ordering it but decided to check out any bad side

effects first. I found this article by Quackwatch. Be sure to read

Rosemary s story. Does anyone know any more about side effects and

do you believe this article?

Helen B

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html

[Guest guest]

Billie,

If you still have what Dr. Weil wrote, could you post it for us? I went

to his site last night trying to find his opinion on it and couldn't

find a thing. In fact, I can't say I'm impressed with the site thus far.

I should say for folks out there, I am aware that I may be taking

certain risks by taking colloidal silver. I am having trouble finding

out what those risks are, and given the risks of all the other drugs, I

felt the risk was justifiable. As I said earlier, I am taking a minimal

dose, far less than is recommended because I would rather be

over-cautious than over-zealous. I decided to take the risk for myself

for several reasons, probably the most important of which is that I am

uninsured and cannot afford anything terribly expensive. Can't really

even afford to drop $65 to talk to my doctor about it, much less the

bucks to have a jillion blood tests to follow my progress.

My thoughts on the putting silver in my body are this.

1. Our bodies do need various of these metals, and it's likely that we

do have deficiencies

2. I'm not completely convinced that silver won't harm the body's cells.

The claim for silver is that it only works on primitive one celled

organisms and thus won't attack our eukaryotic cells. However, our

mitochondria were originally bacterial symbionts that have now become

permanent parts of our cellular structure. This is also true of

chloroplasts in the plants. I fail to see how our mitochondria would not

be adversely affected.

3. I think of it similarly to chemotherapy for cancer. I'm taking the

good with the bad. I hope that they are right in that ONLY the offending

bugs are being effected. I'm willing to risk that some of my own body's

cells may be effected in the pursuit of killing these bugs. I don't

think there's a drug we can take that this is not the case for, however.

In this case of the silver, however, I do have confidence that any

damage done to my healthy cells will quickly reverse when I stop the

silver. This cannot be said for many of the other drugs.

4. It is up to me to do everything in my power to ensure that I use the

safest product I can find. Colloidal silver isn't regulated, and there

undoubtedly are some lousy brands out there. The Utopia Silver site

explains at great length how to identify brands that are poorly made.

For example, inferior quality of silver, too large particle size,

addition of other chemicals for stabilization, etc. None of the one's

mentioned in the anti-silver article posted are ones I've run across and

may indeed be lousy products. Suspiciously absent are the two major ones

I've been looking into, the Utopia Silver and the LifePlus brand I'm

taking.

And last of all, I have some experience that it is working. I have

further experience today. I did not take it yesterday as I thought to

give my body a day off. My heels and back hurt today. I woke up somewhat

stiff. In other words, I'm going backwards and will take it again today.

I personally am willing to take the risk, as it does appear to be

working, very quickly in my own particular case. I do not plan to stay

on it for years. If and when I get to my doctor I will request Cipro.

Those of you more flush with cash and closer to your doctors than I am

may not want to take such a risk. It's a personal decision based on

personal circumstances that each of us must make for ourselves. I've

just been reporting my results to the group as several people asked me

to.

Best - Jan K

Billie Garmon wrote:

> Hi, All -- posted once about this already, but I too have read some

> adverse things about using them. That really burst my bubble. Dr.

> Weil in particular wrote negatively about them in one of his

> newsletters.

[Guest guest]

Quackwatch has criticism of ANYTHING not ok'd by the AMA/CDA. The quote and

" twist " findings to suit their needs. I now ignore their documents...

-Mike-

rheumatic Colloidal Silver

Group

When I read the post about colloidal silver this morning I was excited

and thought about ordering it but decided to check out any bad side

effects first. I found this article by Quackwatch. Be sure to read

Rosemary s story. Does anyone know any more about side effects and

do you believe this article?

Helen B

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html

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Colloidal Silver: Risk Without Benefit

Barrett, M.D.

Colloidal silver is a suspension of submicroscopic metallic silver particles

in a colloidal base. Long-term use of silver preparations can lead to argyria, a

condition in which silver salts deposit in the skin, eyes, and internal organs,

and the skin turns ashen-gray. Many cases of argyria occurred during the

pre-antibiotic era when silver was a common ingredient in nosedrops. When the

cause became apparent, doctors stopped recommending their use, and reputable

manufacturers stopped producing them. The official drug guidebooks (United

States Pharmacopeia and National Formulary) have not listed colloidal silver

products since 1975.

Dubious Ads

In recent years, silver-containing products have been marketed with

unsubstantiated claims that they are effective against AIDS, cancer, infectious

diseases, parasites, chronic fatigue, acne, warts, hemorrhoids, enlarged

prostate, and many other diseases and conditions. Some marketers claim that

colloidal silver is effective against hundreds of diseases.

During 1998, a Florida-based multilevel company, stated:

Our colloidal silver contains 99.99% pure silver particles suspended

indefinitely in demineralized water that kills bacteria and viruses. It can be

applied topically and/or absorbed into the blood stream sub-lingually (under the

tongue), thereby avoiding the negative effects of traditional antibiotics that

kill good bacteria in the lower digestive tract.

An all natural antibiotic alternative in the purest form available. The

presence of colloidal silver near a virus, fungi, bacterium or any other single

celled pathogen disables its oxygen-metabolism enzyme, its chemical lung, so to

say. The pathogens suffocates and dies, and is cleared out of the body by the

immune, lymphatic and elimination systems.

Unlike pharmaceutical antibiotics which destroy beneficial enzymes,

colloidal silver leaves these beneficial enzymes intact. Thus colloidal silver

is absolutely safe for humans, reptiles, plants and all multi-celled living

matter.

It is impossible for single-celled germs to mutate into silver-resistant

forms, as happens with conventional antibiotics. Also, colloidal silver cannot

interact or interfere with other medicines being taken. Colloidal silver is

truly a safe, natural remedy for many of mankind's ills. Colloidal silver can be

taken indefinitely because the body does not develop a tolerance to it [1]

Seasilver Intermational, a California-based multilevel company, claims that

American are suffering from " silver deficiency. " Although silver is not an

essential nutrient, product information posted on the company's Web site states:

The depletion of minerals in our soil has left us deficient of silver, one

of our most essential trace minerals, causing a drastic increase in immune

system disorders in our society in the last decade. Research has taught us that

all disease is allowed to manifest itself because of a weakened immune system.

In over 20 years of worldwide research on Colloidal Silver, numerous interviews

with government agencies, health care practitioners and their patients, no other

nutrient, herb or drug (prescription or over-the-counter) is as safe and

effective against all known forms of unfriendly virus, bacteria, and fungus.

Additionally, while it is generally known that most antibiotics kill only

perhaps 6 or 7 different disease organisms, reports have shown that Colloidal

Silver has been used successfully in the treatment of over 650 diseases!

Furthermore, strains of disease organisms fail to develop in the presence of

Colloidal Silver. Colloidal Silver's greatest attribute is its unique ability to

function as a superior second immune system in the body! [2]

The ad below is from the July 1996 issue of Alternative Medicine Digest.

Critical Studies

In 1995, an herbal distributor named tested nine commonly

marketed colloidal silver products available at health-food stores and

concluded:

a.. Two of the products were contaminated with microorganisms.

b.. The amount of silver suspended in solution varied from product to

product and would gradually decrease over time.

c.. Only five products actually showed antibacterial activity in a

laboratory test. To perform the test, she prepared a culture plate with

Staphylococcus aureas bacteria, which can cause infections in humans. She then

placed a drop from each product on the plate and used disks of two common

antibiotics as controls. After eight hours of incubation, she found that

bacterial growth had been inhibited around the antibiotics and four of the

products.

Of course, the fact that a product inhibits bacteria in a laboratory culture

doesn't mean it is effective (or safe) in the human body. In fact, products that

kill bacteria in the laboratory would be more likely to cause argyria because

they contain more silver ions that are free to deposit in the user's skin. .

FDA laboratory studies have found that the amount of silver in some product

samples has varied from 15.2% to 124% of the amount listed on the product

labels. The amount of silver required to produce argyria is unknown. However,

the FDA has concluded that the risk of using silver products exceeds any

unsubstantiated benefit [3].

In October 1996, the FDA proposed to ban the use of colloidal silver or silver

salts in over-the-counter products [4]. To access the full text of this

announcement, search the Federal Register for " colloidal silver. "

References

1. The company (Changes International) is no longer in the supplement

business.

2. Seasilver International Product Information, downloaded October 12, 1998.

3. Fung MC, Bowen DL. Silver products for medical indications: risk-benefit

assessment. Journal of Toxicology and Clinical Toxicology 34:119-26, 1996.

4. Federal Register 61:53685-53688, 1996.

For Further Information

Rosemary s, an argyria victim, has made a detailed study of the colloidal

silver marketplace and is willing to answer questions. In March 1998, she filed

suit charging that a California-based colloidal silver marketer and other

unnamed defendants had falsely advertised their product(s). The suit was brought

under a special California law that permits an individual to act as a " private

attorney general. "

Quackwatch Home Page

[Guest guest]

Yes, I have seen all of that information--I am an avid user of Colloidal

Silver (CS) and it has helped me tremendously (much more than the antibiotics

and much faster). Agryia is a blue skin condition caused by silver nitrate--a

compound with silver. CS is silver ions suspended in water.

CS is something you must decide for yourself if it is safe for you based on

your research--I am part of the CS forum and have researched it to my

satisfaction. I emailed Rosemary asking for more information and never

received a reply as did many people on the colloidal silver forum. Quackwatch

in my opinion was just alternative medicine bashing--certainly slanted and

biased.

IMHO, for whatever it's worth.

L

RA 9 yrs, Antibio 7 years

In a message dated 99-07-18 12:22:54 EDT, you write:

<< Group

When I read the post about colloidal silver this morning I was excited

and thought about ordering it but decided to check out any bad side

effects first. I found this article by Quackwatch. Be sure to read

Rosemary s story. Does anyone know any more about side effects and

do you believe this article?

Helen B

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html >>

[Guest guest]

You cannot awaken a man who thinks he's awake.

L

[Guest guest]

Is there anything from Medline or other scientific research on colloidal

silver? I'd be interested from anyone with such info.

Thanks!

Carol E from NY

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know anything about the stuff stated at this link:

http://homepages.together.net/%7Erjstan/rose1.html

I am still learning about colloidal silver, and most of what I've read is

good, but this scares me a little.

[Guest guest]

On Mon, 21 May 2001 01:23:44 -0500, Dr wrote:

> Does anyone know anything about the stuff stated at this link:

> http://homepages.together.net/%7Erjstan/rose1.html

> I am still learning about colloidal silver, and most of what I've read is

> good, but this scares me a little.

>

>Dear ,

Rosemary's experience was 40+ yrs ago, for God's sake! Why don't you

buy some of the new books on colloidal silver and theresearch being done at

the present time? Why don " t you go to Dr. s's web site,

www.Dr.net? Get her books. She is a brilliant researcher who uses new

bioelectronic methods for her research.

I did lots of research myself and was a grad student at Albert

Einstein Med Coll and I feel qualified to judge research as valid or

invalid. What background have you?

Rosemary could reverse the greyness due to argyria, if she were

willing to investigate chelation therapy and other methods.

Noga Gelman

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" Sather " <whitewave77@...> wrote:

>Does anyone know anything about the stuff stated at this link:

http://homepages.together.net/%7Erjstan/rose1.html

I am still learning about colloidal silver, and most of what I've read is

good, but this scares me a little.

I had extensive correspondence with the woman who turned gray. When she was

a youngster, a doctor gave her silver nose drops, which she used. Her case

of turning silver is rare. However, upon much questioning, she admitted

that she did not know how the silver preparation was made. It was almost

certainly not what we call " colloidal silver " today, a preparation made with

a 9 v. battery and pure silver electrodes.

Rosemary, the woman who turned silver, is associated in some way with

healthfraud.

By the way, Leo, please advise your subscribers that it is illegal and

against netiquette rules to take articles from your list and post them

elsewhere. It is a violation of copyright law, and people so doing without

permission of the original writer of the post can lose his or her account

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According to copyright law, every message written belongs to the person who

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distributed.

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[Guest guest]

> I had extensive correspondence with the woman who turned gray. When she

was

> a youngster, a doctor gave her silver nose drops, which she used. Her

case

> of turning silver is rare. However, upon much questioning, she admitted

> that she did not know how the silver preparation was made. It was almost

> certainly not what we call " colloidal silver " today, a preparation made

with

> a 9 v. battery and pure silver electrodes.

Thanks . I had a feeling there was probably something wrong with the

silver, and it looks like that is very likely.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I've included after my post the information about the Colloidal Silver (CS)

discussion list. Highly reccomended information for learning about modern

Colloidal silver. During my brief several month stay on the CS list I was

greatly educated on the subject of Colloidal Silver. I've been making and

taking it myself for several months. Can't say as I blame you for wondering

and asking the question: " what about the blue, gray woman? " Ditto to what

said. She experienced what several others have experienced in trying

to communicate with this woman about her 50 year old mainstream medical

treatment tragedy. The particles of silver in the silver preparations of

that day were huge and much higher concentrations than modern electro

produced colloidal silver. Hence, the opponants of alternative medicine

can't come up with anything more current to point to as proof of the

" problem " of colloidal silver. This is inspite of the fact that thousands

of people are making and taking colloidal silver today. There's lots of

info out there, Lots of people taking CS, and there's one gray lady who was

let down by the mainstream medical community of her day 50 years ago. Many

have tryed to help her to find ways of curing her problem and learning the

difference between her silver solution and those of today. She violently

opposes such attempts at rational discussion. For many reasons, I feel very

sorry for her.

Vince Richter

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>From: " Sather " <whitewave77@...>

>Reply-Dr

><Dr >

>Subject: Re: Re: colloidal silver

>Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:31:02 -0500

>

> > I had extensive correspondence with the woman who turned gray. When she

>was

> > a youngster, a doctor gave her silver nose drops, which she used. Her

>case

> > of turning silver is rare. However, upon much questioning, she admitted

> > that she did not know how the silver preparation was made. It was

>almost

> > certainly not what we call " colloidal silver " today, a preparation made

>with

> > a 9 v. battery and pure silver electrodes.

>

>Thanks . I had a feeling there was probably something wrong with the

>silver, and it looks like that is very likely.

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks. I'll check that out. I love colloidal silver and hope to find out

only good things about it. It cleared up an extremely sore throat (probably

strep) in a half a day. I put one drop of it in the water of the blossoms of

a tree that my little boy brought me, and the flowers stayed healthy and

pretty for about 5 days instead of wilting and turning brown in 24 hours

like they always did before that. I get a little scared of new things, but I

am very willing to try them, because I believe there are better ways than

the things most of us have been used to and trained to accept. And I sure

was glad I tried the silver. I just didn't want to turn gray a few months

later! It's too bad that they will take something like that and use it over

and over even though it's outdated, and then call those who successfully use

the newer stuff 'quacks'! How sad!

Re: Re: colloidal silver

> >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:31:02 -0500

> >

> > > I had extensive correspondence with the woman who turned gray. When

she

> >was

> > > a youngster, a doctor gave her silver nose drops, which she used. Her

> >case

> > > of turning silver is rare. However, upon much questioning, she

admitted

> > > that she did not know how the silver preparation was made. It was

> >almost

> > > certainly not what we call " colloidal silver " today, a preparation

made

> >with

> > > a 9 v. battery and pure silver electrodes.

> >

> >Thanks . I had a feeling there was probably something wrong with

the

> >silver, and it looks like that is very likely.

> >

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/26/2001 2:44:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

whitewave77@... writes:

<< I just didn't want to turn gray a few months

later! >>

Awwww. Ya aint gonna turn blue! They is just tryin' ta skeer ya! That's how

they work. Fear tactics. Maybe if you are afraid of cs, you will never find

out the many wonderful benefits of it... That sore throat is a real money

maker! LOL?

Sad part is that some people WON'T use cs as a result of this kind of

propaganda...

The blue person is probably looking for support and answers...It's a real

shame that the quackpots have exposed her in this light. I don't think they

have any regard for her wellbeing to have used her story for their own

benefit this way...she didn't even turn blue as a result of cs, it was

something else. I bet Hulda would know what to do for her...

Foggs

[Guest guest]

Great ,

I believe that anyone with an open mind who looks at CS objectively will

realize that they can have a powerful weapon in their arsenal against

illness, without spending a lot of money or putting thier health at risk.

The wealth of information out there allows any one to make up their oun mind

and not have to take anyone's word for anything. Even the most technically

challenged have gone to the Colloidal Discussion list and found out how to

make all the CS they and thier families need for pennies a day. I wish you

the best

Vince Richter

>From: " Sather " <whitewave77@...>

>Reply-Dr

><Dr >

>Subject: Re: Re: colloidal silver

>Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 01:43:48 -0500

>

>Thanks. I'll check that out. I love colloidal silver and hope to find out

>only good things about it. It cleared up an extremely sore throat (probably

>strep) in a half a day. I put one drop of it in the water of the blossoms

>of

>a tree that my little boy brought me, and the flowers stayed healthy and

>pretty for about 5 days instead of wilting and turning brown in 24 hours

>like they always did before that. I get a little scared of new things, but

>I

>am very willing to try them, because I believe there are better ways than

>the things most of us have been used to and trained to accept. And I sure

>was glad I tried the silver. I just didn't want to turn gray a few months

>later! It's too bad that they will take something like that and use it over

>and over even though it's outdated, and then call those who successfully

>use

>the newer stuff 'quacks'! How sad!

>

> Re: Re: colloidal silver

> > >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:31:02 -0500

> > >

> > > > I had extensive correspondence with the woman who turned gray. When

>she

> > >was

> > > > a youngster, a doctor gave her silver nose drops, which she used.

>Her

> > >case

> > > > of turning silver is rare. However, upon much questioning, she

>admitted

> > > > that she did not know how the silver preparation was made. It was

> > >almost

> > > > certainly not what we call " colloidal silver " today, a preparation

>made

> > >with

> > > > a 9 v. battery and pure silver electrodes.

> > >

> > >Thanks . I had a feeling there was probably something wrong with

>the

> > >silver, and it looks like that is very likely.

> > >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

I did a quick search and found this site on colloidal silver:

http://www.clspress.com/silver.html

The FDA warning that was posted is clearly a concern.

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Hello how can I find out about colloidal silver? Thanks, Rosie

Re:

How do you know for sure there isn't a yeast problem? I'm just asking

because these symptoms sound like it. Just wondering. Grapefruit seed

extract (GSE) is supposed to be very good for yeast in case you want

something over-the-counter. My doctor wouldn't test Jordan for it. I

gave him some GSE and nothing happened (didn't have yeast). The I

tried wormwood for parasites and nothing happened (didn't have

parasites). Last choice, tried colloidal silver for bacteria. BINGO!

He felt sick for 2-3 days and then really sprung to life. That was a

couple months ago by now and he is still doing well.

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Hi silverswiller,

Did you ever consider looking into the FScan? From what little I know about

it, it scans for resonant frequencies and you then zap that frequency.

Folks have had some great results like that. It would theoretically find a

large resonance at whatever frequency your " ureaplasma urealyticum

infection " has. Then, with a frequency generator, you zap at that

frequency.

http://www.royalrife.com/f-scan.html

Whew, I don't have any idea what a " ureaplasma urealyticum infection " is,

but it sounds pretty bad. What are your symptoms?

Vince

>From: " silverswill@... " <silverswill@...>

>Reply-Dr

>Dr

>Subject: Colloidal Silver

>Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:10:50 -0800 (PST)

>

>HI I have partially completed my website which will

>hopefully inform other users of my results from using

>the Dr. Protocol, as well as extensive research

>into the Colloidal Silver Debate, Facts from Fiction,

>speculations about CS, Did you know that not all CS

>are made the same and some work and others dont. I

>have found the best products on the market for you and

>hope you will help support my research into CS and

>other Prototcols in hopes of finding a cure for my

>ureaplasma urealyticum infection, which ironically has

>no established frequency's in both teh clark nore the

>rife freq range. I hope to someday find the entire

>set of resonant freq for this pathogen. *please note

>that The webpage went up yesterday and am not + if all

>the bugs are out of it yet as concerned to orders for

>colloidal silver products if someone would be kind

>enoouph to place an order I can then test it out

>

>Much Thanks and appreciation!

>

>sincerly

>silverswill

>

>www.silverswill.com

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what is dr. 's opinion on Colloidal silver?

Re: Would DMSO be safe ?

Can you post that recipe please. I use DMSO, I take two dropfulls every

morning. I have breast cysts that don't go away. I did cleansing and I take

now Q10, Vitamin E, MSM and DMSO. I also have some herbal poultice but I

would be interested for that salve. I did not find that in her book The cure

for all diseases.

Jasmina

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In a message dated 3/30/03 12:35:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

drcrandall@... writes:

> I need to know if colloidal silver can be given to children. And if so,

> how young? And what would the dosage be?

>

> Thanks for your help,

>

>

>

Prevention or treatment?

Khepri

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Currently, it would be for treatment. The little guy (28 mo.) had a mild

fever and said his neck hurt. The ped. said it was probably a virus and

would run its course. The fever comes and goes and he says his neck

hurts again. So he'll be back in this week for another adjustment. I

don't treat many toddlers so am not up on the current alternatives.

Prevention use would also be appreciated as this Mother prefers that

over conventional drugs.

Re: colloidal silver

In a message dated 3/30/03 12:35:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

drcrandall@... writes:

> I need to know if colloidal silver can be given to children. And if

so,

> how young? And what would the dosage be?

>

> Thanks for your help,

>

>

>

Prevention or treatment?

Khepri