Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 , I would like to do the case history, tired, but don't know how either. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 Janet, either find your introduction to the list (if you sent one) in the archives and get it me or write up a new one and send it to me at raharris@... RAH --- Janet Battcock <janet.battcock@...> wrote: <HR> <!doctype html public " -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en " > <html> I have been to the link for case histories..do I just write up my case history in here or do I have to write it to that webpage? & nbsp; I would like to include mine..but not sure how at this point. <p>Janet <br> & nbsp; <br> & nbsp;</html> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ <pre> Please visit our new web page at: http://www.wpunj.edu/icip/pa</pre> <HR> <html> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 1999 Report Share Posted October 13, 1999 Again, if you can't find your original message you have two options: Ask me to find it (and wait for me to get to it) or write something up and send it to me. My address is raharris@... RA --- AmyDeel@... wrote: > , > > I would like to do the case history, tired, but > don't know how either. > > Amy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please visit our new web page at: > http://www.wpunj.edu/icip/pa > <HR> <html> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 1999 Report Share Posted October 13, 1999 For the record, i just found Amy Deel's first message to the list and have posted it on the page, along with A. You can find the page at : http://www.wpunj.edu/pa/ Thanks, RA --- AmyDeel@... wrote: > , > > I would like to do the case history, tired, but > don't know how either. > > Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Great case . Thanks, Steve Lumsden Case history > Listmates - I had an interesting case last week that would like to > share with you. This patient is a 35-year-old female that entered > the clinic with a chief complaint of diffuse left upper back pain. > She had been treated in our clinic before and had indeed suffered > from similar problems. She had been treated with physical therapy > modalities and manipulation with success. It had been approximately > one year since she had been seen in the clinic and a new update was > requested to be filled out. She had undergone a needle biopsy of the > left breast one day prior to this examination. She noted that her > back pain started at that time. She also noted that " her back > cracked like it was going out " during the procedure. She thought she > had tighted up because of the needle biopsy and wanted to have her > back to " put back in " . Palpatory examination revealed generalized > tenderness but very little hypertonia in the thoracic, medial > parascapular and left shoulder muscles. The shoulder ranges of > motion were normal as were the cervical ranges of motion. There was > no evidence of ridulopathy in the upper extremities through > provocative testing. Auscultation of the lung fields revealed some > crackling sounds and ralls in the left posterolateral lung fields. > Percussion revealed dullness in the left lower posterior lung fields > and slight hollowness in the left upper lung field compared to the > right. Chest x-rays were ordered which revealed a pneumothorax in > the left lung with a fluid layer in the left lower lung space. She > was admitted to Central Oregon Community Hospital ER where a chest > tube was inserted and over 150 ml of blood was removed. When I > rounded on her the next day, she had a fever of 102 degrees and > antibiotics were started by her medical physician. She came to the > office today and was doing much better and had very little difficulty > whatsoever other than some deep soreness in her left lung. I theorize > that the crackling sound she heard during the biopsy was the sound of > the lung pulling away from the pleural surface as the vacuum was > broken by the needle biopsy. > > I thought to share this case as many of us often see patients with > ill-defined and diffuse pain syndromes. We should never become > complacent and should always remind ourselves to look for the not so > obvious clinical condition as they often are disguised as a mild > musculoskeletal condition. > > Thille, D.C., FACO > Redmond, OR > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Excellent case work-up . Its seems a little on the clinical clumsy side don't it? To actually pierce the patient's lung during a breast needle biopsy? Does this guy/gal also double as the night janitor??? But list mates this brings up a very salient point relative to DCs on staff at their local hospital. Our patients have a right to continuity of care from our offices to the hospital, from the hospital to the convalescent center, back to our offices, or hospital. Also under federal medicare statute (which supersedes state law) we are defined as a category of physician. Further the federal court concluded with the Wilk anti-trust litigation stating that hospital cannot discriminate against chiropractors as a group. In my opinion and many others, we are missing a large potential market shart by not being on staff at our local hospitals. Being in the hospital setting allows us to interact with a myriad of medical professionals which we would normally not come in contact with. As a consequence o being in the hospitals we would have a wonderful opportunity to educate our medical colleagues as to the chiropractic paradigm of health and wellness as well as showcasing our superior " functional " assessments and treatments of the more common musculoskeletal conditions. As a result we are missing a great opportunity as per possible referrals from those same medical professionals, as well as reimbursement for procedures we could be performing in the hospital setting. We should be able to co-admit, co-discharge, write orders, write for consults, accept consults, write discharge summaries, and have ER privileges, not to substitute for the ER physician but as an adjunct to him/her following his/her triage of the patient. For example following the triage of the typical " whiplash " injury patient we could then provide our chiropractic functional examination and have them follow-up with us rather than the typical prescreption for Vicodin and " call your PCP if the pain persists! " Anyone care to guess how many potential PIP patients are running through those ERs from Friday to Sunday??? Its time to push the envelope and on a statewide level. I like us to push for staff privilages in 50 hospitals all at the same time simultaneously. We need to push the darn envelope NOW go on the offense and take what is rightfully ours and I'm just the " bug in the rug " to PUSH IT !! Comments?? Vern Saboe, DC., FICC., DACAN ACA Delegate CAO Executive Board Case history >Listmates - I had an interesting case last week that would like to >share with you. This patient is a 35-year-old female that entered >the clinic with a chief complaint of diffuse left upper back pain. >She had been treated in our clinic before and had indeed suffered >from similar problems. She had been treated with physical therapy >modalities and manipulation with success. It had been approximately >one year since she had been seen in the clinic and a new update was >requested to be filled out. She had undergone a needle biopsy of the >left breast one day prior to this examination. She noted that her >back pain started at that time. She also noted that " her back >cracked like it was going out " during the procedure. She thought she >had tighted up because of the needle biopsy and wanted to have her >back to " put back in " . Palpatory examination revealed generalized >tenderness but very little hypertonia in the thoracic, medial >parascapular and left shoulder muscles. The shoulder ranges of >motion were normal as were the cervical ranges of motion. There was >no evidence of ridulopathy in the upper extremities through >provocative testing. Auscultation of the lung fields revealed some >crackling sounds and ralls in the left posterolateral lung fields. >Percussion revealed dullness in the left lower posterior lung fields >and slight hollowness in the left upper lung field compared to the >right. Chest x-rays were ordered which revealed a pneumothorax in >the left lung with a fluid layer in the left lower lung space. She >was admitted to Central Oregon Community Hospital ER where a chest >tube was inserted and over 150 ml of blood was removed. When I >rounded on her the next day, she had a fever of 102 degrees and >antibiotics were started by her medical physician. She came to the >office today and was doing much better and had very little difficulty >whatsoever other than some deep soreness in her left lung. I theorize >that the crackling sound she heard during the biopsy was the sound of >the lung pulling away from the pleural surface as the vacuum was >broken by the needle biopsy. > >I thought to share this case as many of us often see patients with >ill-defined and diffuse pain syndromes. We should never become >complacent and should always remind ourselves to look for the not so >obvious clinical condition as they often are disguised as a mild >musculoskeletal condition. > > Thille, D.C., FACO >Redmond, OR > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Those poor P.T.'s will get a case of rapid and uncontrolled bowel transit, if you keep this kind of thinking up Vern....SL Case history > > > >Listmates - I had an interesting case last week that would like to > >share with you. This patient is a 35-year-old female that entered > >the clinic with a chief complaint of diffuse left upper back pain. > >She had been treated in our clinic before and had indeed suffered > >from similar problems. She had been treated with physical therapy > >modalities and manipulation with success. It had been approximately > >one year since she had been seen in the clinic and a new update was > >requested to be filled out. She had undergone a needle biopsy of the > >left breast one day prior to this examination. She noted that her > >back pain started at that time. She also noted that " her back > >cracked like it was going out " during the procedure. She thought she > >had tighted up because of the needle biopsy and wanted to have her > >back to " put back in " . Palpatory examination revealed generalized > >tenderness but very little hypertonia in the thoracic, medial > >parascapular and left shoulder muscles. The shoulder ranges of > >motion were normal as were the cervical ranges of motion. There was > >no evidence of ridulopathy in the upper extremities through > >provocative testing. Auscultation of the lung fields revealed some > >crackling sounds and ralls in the left posterolateral lung fields. > >Percussion revealed dullness in the left lower posterior lung fields > >and slight hollowness in the left upper lung field compared to the > >right. Chest x-rays were ordered which revealed a pneumothorax in > >the left lung with a fluid layer in the left lower lung space. She > >was admitted to Central Oregon Community Hospital ER where a chest > >tube was inserted and over 150 ml of blood was removed. When I > >rounded on her the next day, she had a fever of 102 degrees and > >antibiotics were started by her medical physician. She came to the > >office today and was doing much better and had very little difficulty > >whatsoever other than some deep soreness in her left lung. I theorize > >that the crackling sound she heard during the biopsy was the sound of > >the lung pulling away from the pleural surface as the vacuum was > >broken by the needle biopsy. > > > >I thought to share this case as many of us often see patients with > >ill-defined and diffuse pain syndromes. We should never become > >complacent and should always remind ourselves to look for the not so > >obvious clinical condition as they often are disguised as a mild > >musculoskeletal condition. > > > > Thille, D.C., FACO > >Redmond, OR > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 > Please send me your case history and I will post it on my website. Back when I started this group, I posted this sort of information. But here is an updated version, which you can use on your website (edit as you see fit): ------------------------------------------------------------------- Case History -- Marc (December 2006) I've been a heavy user of computers since 1985, both at work (where I'm an aerospace engineer and programmer) and at home (where I run multiple websites and discussion groups). In 2000, I got some sort of chronic " flu " which refused to go away. The doctors kept giving me more and more antibiotics, and at some point it became obvious that this was doing more harm than good, as I started getting environmental, chemical, and food sensitivities. I also became less and less tolerant of my workplace, and was exhausted by the end of each workday. Eventually I had to go on disability from work. After finally figuring out that exposure to computers and florescent lights were causing my exhaustion, I initially tried all of the conventional EMF solutions. I bought a glass EMF shield for my monitor. I used an EMF meter to minimize my exposure. I experimented with a variety of EMF shielding materials. I bought an LCD monitor. None of these helped enough to make much of a difference. Meanwhile, my overall health was terrible -- I was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome. My immune system was obviously not working, as I caught every illness going around. I needed tons of sleep. I eventually got fed up with conventional medicine and switched to alternative medicine. I also started cleaning up my diet, switching from junk foods and microwaved foods to more organic, raw fruits and vegetables. I became a vegetarian. A naturopath tested me for high levels of mercury in my system (in the past, I had a mouthful of mercury fillings and ate a can of tuna every day). I purchased several books on mercury poisoning, and one of them listed a symptom of being a hypersensitivity to electricity. This book said that these symptoms would eventually go away if I had all of my metal dental work removed and underwent mercury detoxification. So I had all of my remaining mercury fillings replaced. Amazingly, a lot of my health complaints disappeared immediately, but the electrical sensitivity remained. At that point, my tolerance for sitting in front of my 15 " LCD monitor was about 5 minutes, it was painful to watch TV from 10 feet away and also using a regular corded phone. So, the next step was mercury detox. I found that I had bad reactions to most chelators, but started taking the " NDF " chelator in small amounts followed an hour later by the antioxidant " Microhydrin " . Also, around about the same time, I saw a doctor who recommended that I try some EMF protection devices from " Quantum Products " . So I tried a Quantum power strip. On day one, I had a huge surge of energy! On subsequent days, I became fatigued, and recognized these symptoms as being the same detoxification symptoms I got when my fillings were removed. But my tolerance was definitely improved. With a few power strips and the Quantum Byte software, I finally went back to work -- halftime. The next few years I took a lot of supplements for detoxification, rebuilding various organs which were impacted (adrenals, thyroid, etc.), and experimenting with many EMF protection devices. My health continued to improve, and by 2003 I was working fulltime and required a normal amount of sleep. As it stands now (in 2006), I still practice avoidance where practical, I still eat a lot of healthy foods, still take supplements, and still use EMF protection devices. I am, for the most part, symptom-free and living a normal life. I still have ES, but it's not nearly as bad as it once was, and it no longer gets in the way. So, after years of trial & error, here are the most important things which have helped my ES so far: * AVOIDANCE: I react more severely to LCD monitors than CRT monitors, so I've kept using CRT monitors. My monitors are a foot or two further away than " normal " , and I have less reaction if I run them at a lower resolution and refresh rate. I don't use compact florescent lighting in my home, and have unscrewed some florescent bulbs above my desk at work. I don't use wireless phones or Internet in my home. I have a cellphone, but rarely use it. * FOOD: I've found that eating small quantities of food frequently throughout the day helps keep my symptoms down. Not just any food, but healthy food that I buy at a health food store. Foods helpful for reducing my ES symptoms include oatmeal, quinoa, bananas, dates, kelp, prunes, eggs, carrots, and Odwalla " Superfood " bars. * SUPPLEMENTS: I never had much luck with synthetic vitamin and mineral pills, but there are still some supplements which I've found helpful for ES. An MLM product called " Seasilver " helps increase my tolerance for EMF. Also, an antioxidant called " Mega-H " (formerly " Microhydrin " ), a probiotic called " Primal Defense " , an antioxidant called " Amrit " , a fatty acid supplement called " Evening Primrose Oil " , and a mercury chelator called " NDF " * EMF PROTECTION DEVICES: I never had much luck with shielding materials, and in many cases they are impractical or just plain ugly. However, I've had good results from a few EMF protection devices. Unfortunately, I've only had good luck with about one in every 10 devices I've tried. My favorite devices are from Quantum Products and Springlife Polarity. These days I use the Quantum power strip, the Quantum Byte software, the Quantum Companion, and the Springlife OM pendant. I use one or a combination of these at work, home, and elsewhere. * SKIN LOTION: For the burning sensation I get on my face after spending hours sitting in front of a computer, I've found skin lotion to be quite helpful. I use either " Shikai Borage Dry Skin Therapy " or " Burt's Bees Carrot Nutritive Body Lotion " . ------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 > Case History -- Marc (December 2006) > > * SKIN LOTION: For the burning sensation I get on my face > after spending hours sitting in front of a computer, I've found > skin lotion to be quite helpful. I use either " Shikai Borage > Dry Skin Therapy " or " Burt's Bees Carrot Nutritive Body Lotion " . How about adding one more bullet: * REMOVAL OF METAL FROM THE BODY: I have found that reducing the amount of metal near/inside the body helps reduce ES symptoms. This includes things like taking keys out of your pocket, replacing metal-framed eyeglasses with plastic frames (or contact lenses), replacement of all metal dental work, and heavy metal chelation therapy. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 > Please send me the links for the Springlife and Quantum EMF protection > devices. I want to put them in your case history. Here is a link for Quantum Products: http://www.quantumproducts.com As for Springlife Polarity, they don't have a website, but here is a website for someone who sells them: http://choosecra.com/htmlpages/homepage/prodinfo/springlife.html Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Thanks for posting. I too have had experience of this with a child, but it was caught soon enough to not need surgery - but needed colonoscopy to make sure there was no damage. Case history Hi all: This is from a parent who feels the experience their family had with their child might be helpful to others... Ellen ---------------------------------------------------------- --------------- To the moderator. Please post anonymously. I'd like to start a thread, possibly leading to a reference file, of cases of injuries or other harmful consequences of surreptitious perserverations of autistic children. Because of our experience, I think these can be especially frustrating and disheartening because of the guilt and regret that comes with the " how could I have missed that " moment. In our case, if I had only heard or read about the particular danger, I may have realized what was happening before it became so serious and surgical repair was necessary. Of course, after discovery, a internet medical search found relevant case reports; but no one can know what's in the entire medical database, and you don't know what to look for, if you've never heard of it. If my description in an IPADD file is someday read by one person who acts sooner and thereby avoids the difficulties of hospitalization and surgery on their autistic child, I could see some good come of this. I see this as anologous to the " what to look for " references relating to child or elder abuse, but relating to the stim's and perserverations of autism. Now, necessarily this may involve some unpleasant or uncomfortable subjects as the reason for hiding the behaviors may well be that they relate to toileting, sexual behavior, etc. Therefore, I propose a case study format, such as the following, sent to the moderators for anonymous posting. The language should be factual and non-judgmental, and as explicit as necessary to ensure clarity without being vulgar should it involve a delicate subject. We love our children enough to deal with whatever may be causing them injury. Defining statement (so the collected file can be easily searched): Perserverative or a compulsive schedule of bowel movements can cause rectal prolapse. Case history: My son had been independently toileting for years, much to our relief after a late, drawn-out toilet training. So if there was a little messiness from time to time and insistence on BMing on every bathroom visit, we put up with it for the greater good of not stressing him, causing regression, or any other negative consequences. But over time it became a problem that the underside of the toilet seat was always soiled and he just wasn't getting clean. If for any reason he had an urgent BM, e.g. diarrhea or a long car trip, his pants would be extensively soiled, yet no quantity of BM deposited. Questioning and lecturing only lead to more stress (my son is not verbal enough to answer a " why " query). He resisted any observation, but after years of independence, that seemed perfectly normal.. Finally in frustration, I intentionally walked in to catch him in mid-BM. He tried to stop and appeared to be trying to push the BM back inside with the toilet paper in his hand. Since I thought he was making the usual mess on the toilet seat, I quickly pushed him forward, intending to stop the mess and re-teach wiping. But I immediately saw a significant rectal prolapse (anyone who grew up on a farm has seen these in hogs and cattle after birthing; it's the rectum everted through the anus by abdomenal contraction pressure and looks like a thick pink or purple tube). These are not immediately dangerous, but if it's your child, it's more than a little frightening. Ultimately, and perhaps partly because of the delay in discovering this, surgical repair was necessary. If my description in an IPADD file is someday read by one person who acts sooner and thereby avoids the difficulties of hospitalization and surgery on their autistic child, I will be in some small way be relieved of some of the guilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Hi- I have been using MMS for about 8 months now. I used it every day for about 6 weeks. I then followed with taking 5 to 8 drops 2 - 4 times in one day about every 3 days. My problems are Th-1 problems (includes candida), fibromyalgia, COPD, morbid obesity and skin problems. I have found that it works better for me to take 4 to 8 drops after I eat anything with sugar in it in order to keep down skin itching. I bathe in it as often as possible (which isn't very often in our household) but use 50 drops of activated MMS in a very large tub. What it seems to be doing for me is letting my immune system go to work and I am not getting worse. I have had warts completely break down on my arms and one leg. I plan on making up the maple syrup candies for my candida problems as well as use the cream of tartar. I am starting a low gluten and anti-inflammatory diet this week. I expect to be following that for a year and a half or so - and likely will continue it (within reason) the rest of my life. I am so grateful to use the MMS for punching holes in the biofilms of the th-1 problem. I read everything I could get hold of before starting this regimen and am not sorry I have done it. I am in the habit of listening to my body as it lets me know when to use the MMS internally. Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Gloria Thanks for your contribution and testimony. I also have had great success with skin tags ect bathing with mms. Reading your symptoms have you considered adding MSM to your diet and treatment also? http://falconblanco.com/health/msm/faq.html --- In , Gloria Bloore <Jennidays@...> wrote: > > Hi- > I have been using MMS for about 8 months now. I used it every day for about 6 weeks. I then followed with taking 5 to 8 drops 2 - 4 times in one day about every 3 days. My problems are Th-1 problems (includes candida), fibromyalgia, COPD, morbid obesity and skin problems. I have found that it works better for me to take 4 to 8 drops after I eat anything with sugar in it in order to keep down skin itching. I bathe in it as often as possible (which isn't very often in our household) but use 50 drops of activated MMS in a very large tub. What it seems to be doing for me is letting my immune system go to work and I am not getting worse. I have had warts completely break down on my arms and one leg. I plan on making up the maple syrup candies for my candida problems as well as use the cream of tartar. > I am starting a low gluten and anti-inflammatory diet this week. I expect to be following that for a year and a half or so - and likely will continue it (within reason) the rest of my life. I am so grateful to use the MMS for punching holes in the biofilms of the th-1 problem. I read everything I could get hold of before starting this regimen and am not sorry I have done it. I am in the habit of listening to my body as it lets me know when to use the MMS internally. > Glo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I am also dealing with lyme and co-infections. Indeed it makes a difference for me the difference between working or not. Also the addition of more testimony would be very beneficial for the group and others. > > > > > > Hi- > > > I have been using MMS for about 8 months now. I used it every day for about 6 weeks. I then followed with taking 5 to 8 drops 2 - 4 times in one day about every 3 days. My problems are Th-1 problems (includes candida), fibromyalgia, COPD, morbid obesity and skin problems. I have found that it works better for me to take 4 to 8 drops after I eat anything with sugar in it in order to keep down skin itching. I bathe in it as often as possible (which isn't very often in our household) but use 50 drops of activated MMS in a very large tub. What it seems to be doing for me is letting my immune system go to work and I am not getting worse. I have had warts completely break down on my arms and one leg. I plan on making up the maple syrup candies for my candida problems as well as use the cream of tartar. > > > I am starting a low gluten and anti-inflammatory diet this week. I expect to be following that for a year and a half or so - and likely will continue it (within reason) the rest of my life. I am so grateful to use the MMS for punching holes in the biofilms of the th-1 problem. I read everything I could get hold of before starting this regimen and am not sorry I have done it. I am in the habit of listening to my body as it lets me know when to use the MMS internally. > > > Glo > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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