Prebiotics

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At the risk of being unpopular, I certainly wouldn't recommend alcohol of any

kind. You want to take a body that is already dealing with toxin overload from

candida and put more toxins in it?

Alcohol actually helps yeast overgrow and this plus a heavy carb diet,

antibiotics, environmental toxins, etc. is the reason why we have candida in the

first place. Yeast cross reacts with the yeast in alcohol.

I know that certain moldy/yeasty foods are supposed to be a " myth " when it comes

to candida, but I that hasn't been my experience and the experience I have heard

from countless others.

There are many reasons not to drink alcohol and I know that it can be hard to

make radical lifestyle changes, but then again living with poor health is hard

too. People often won't change until the pain of where they are exceeds the

pain of change.

That was definitely the case for me. But then would I recommend that everyone

do what I did and wait until you are so sick and obese you are nearly on death's

door and can barely function?

Probably not, but I understand that sometimes people need to hit bottom before

they will change their lives. Then again I can tell you that if you wait until

you hit bottom it's a LOOONG way up.. so maybe you can learn from my mistakes.

It took me many years to finally understand there is no food or drink in

creation worth my health, and that a little bit here and there does make a

difference right now.

It took me a long time to actually LIVE that truth, but now that I do LIVE that

truth, going back into blissful ignorance is not a choice. I miss that

ignorance at times, but I sure don't miss being that ill!

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From: S

Seriously? Then life isn't over as I know it! lol

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From: dreaminginnoother

A light beer shouldn't really be a problem anyway, should it? 3g of

carbs per in a miller lite. Duncan makes sense about alcohol being a

waste product of candida anyway so should it really make much of a diff?

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Thanks! So like me I could have a leaky gut cause I have a yeast infection?

Like what all leaks from my gut if I have that? So if I took slippery elm it

would stop it.

Re: prebiotics

Yes, slippery elm is very cheap and good to have on hand. you never

know when you'll need it. It can be used to sooth bowel cramps, when

a person can't keep anything down, for coughs/sore throat.

samala,

On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:02 PM, S <michelle_s18@

<mailto:michelle_s18>> wrote:

> My ND recommended slippery elm to me. She said put 1 to 2 tablespoons of

powdered elm into a glass of water and let it sit for 10 minutes and then drink

it on an empty stomach. I couldn't find the powder outside of capsules, but did

find some plain powder online and it is soooo inexpensive. I bought 1 oz for

under $2.00.

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Slippery elm will soothe, but not entirely heal a leaky gut on its own. Two

products that are said to also aid in healing are L-glutamine and MSM. I take

L-glutamine 2 grams per day (powder mixed in water) on an empty stomach, but the

MSM makes me feel sick so I don't do that one.

From what I've read, leaky gut is the root cause of why candida can be out of

balance, but I'm not a dr. so I'd say you'd have to get a permeability test done

by an ND to determine if you have it. What leaks out are food particles and

toxins, which lead to food allergies and fibromylgia, etc.

On another message board I read, the group is BIG on " skilled relaxation, "

basically biofeedback, where you bring the blood flow back to your gut and

reverse the leaky gut. It's something you learn over time and I've been doing

it, but it requires 2 20 minute sessions per day for 6-12 months, which I don't

have time to do now, so I'm just trying to get the hang of reaching the proper

brain waves. I guess it takes a lot of practice.

Here's a link to the CDs I'm using:

http://www.brainsync.com/

Amazon has some used ones for cheaper:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_1?ie=UTF8 & rs= & keywords=brainsync & rh=i%3Aaps%2C\

k%3Abrainsync & page=1

Oh and also, to heal leaky gut, you need to remove allergenic foods from your

diet and also HARD foods like nuts and tortilla chips.

It takes tremendous dedication. It amazes me that people are able to keep up

with the entire protocal.

Re: prebiotics

Thanks! So like me I could have a leaky gut cause I have a yeast infection? Like

what all leaks from my gut if I have that? So if I took slippery elm it would

stop it.

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Hi Debbie,

I was just kidding about the beer. My ND said absolutely no drinking and also,

she too firmly believes in mold being a problem, so I've cut out all left overs

as well.

It's been a battle for me to stick to the diet, but finally I'm reaching a point

where junk food doesn't look very appealing. I still eat a few high glycemic

carbs, but no longer eat ANY enriched flour products at all. (finally got over

that Gold fish addiction

When I do eat sugar, it's those Bumblebee bars that are made from honey and

seeds, etc., or Applesauce.

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Hi ,

I can totally relate to the battle for eating right. There are some supplements

I have taken that seem to help the sugar cravings. Namely chromium, l-glutamine

and cinnamon.

Luv,

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From: S

Hi Debbie,

I was just kidding about the beer. My ND said absolutely no drinking and also,

she too firmly believes in mold being a problem, so I've cut out all left overs

as well.

It's been a battle for me to stick to the diet, but finally I'm reaching a point

where junk food doesn't look very appealing. I still eat a few high glycemic

carbs, but no longer eat ANY enriched flour products at all. (finally got over

that Gold fish addiction

When I do eat sugar, it's those Bumblebee bars that are made from honey and

seeds, etc., or Applesauce.

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Debbie,

How much cinnamon do you take? I've read that it can help control blood sugar

levels which could keep yeast in check, but haven't explored it yet. I've

become a huge fan of buying bulk spices, so possibly I could fill capules with

cinnamon?

Re: Re: prebiotics

Hi ,

I can totally relate to the battle for eating right. There are some supplements

I have taken that seem to help the sugar cravings. Namely chromium, l-glutamine

and cinnamon.

Luv,

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Website: http://www.naturall ythriving. com

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Hi ,

I take about a tsp a day. Sometimes I just put the powder in my mouth and eat

it that way. I do use the organic non-irradiated kind. I just keep a little

container of it in my purse. In addition to tasting great on it's own and

helping blood sugar, it also makes a great breath freshener.

You can make a paste of it with a little bit of coconut oil or olive oil and a

tiny tiny bit of stevia and just take a dab of the paste and put it in your

mouth several times a day, and it freshen your breath and control blood sugar at

the same time. I believe cinnamon has antifungal properties too.

Luv,

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From: S

Debbie,

How much cinnamon do you take? I've read that it can help control blood sugar

levels which could keep yeast in check, but haven't explored it yet. I've

become a huge fan of buying bulk spices, so possibly I could fill capules with

cinnamon?

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--- In candidiasis , Debby Padilla-Hudson ----

Hi,

I'm so glad to see this post about L-Glutamine and Chromium. They

really do help with sugar balance? Does L-Glutamine cause yeast to

get any worse in any way? As I have a four year old son with candida

and gut inflamation. Also, After his recent ear infections and

antibiotics he has seemed more hypoglycemic again. I didn't know if

you could also use nystatin at the same time as GSE? Can you use

L-Glutamine if you are on antidepressants? Also my son's nuerologist

(who doesn't seem to believe in the brain gut thing but I do) wants to

put him on Focalin (like ritalin) but I don't know if the GSE,

Chromium, No-fenol enzyme, L-glutamine, Zinc or nystatin would effect

using Focalin.

Thanks I am desperate for more info because of the push to put my son

on ADHD drugs. Thanks, Wanda

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L-glutamine is a natural amino acid and you cannot take too much and it doesn't

interfer with any meds. It's function is to keep up muscle AND it also is one

of the main food sources of the intestinal wall so it's fundamental to curing a

leaky gut. It doesn't feed candida and I read somewhere that weight lifters

(who usually take l-glutamine) NEVER get leaky gut or candida (probably also due

to low-sugar diets).

The important thing with L-glutamine is that is should be taken on an empty

stomach. Two hours after a meal & at least a half an hour before the next meal.

I ususally wake up and take 2 grams of it around 4 am and then go back to sleep.

IMO, everyone should take it daily!

Re: prebiotics

--- In candidiasis, Debby Padilla-Hudson ----

Hi,

I'm so glad to see this post about L-Glutamine and Chromium. They

really do help with sugar balance? Does L-Glutamine cause yeast to

get any worse in any way? As I have a four year old son with candida

and gut inflamation. Also, After his recent ear infections and

antibiotics he has seemed more hypoglycemic again. I didn't know if

you could also use nystatin at the same time as GSE? Can you use

L-Glutamine if you are on antidepressants? Also my son's nuerologist

(who doesn't seem to believe in the brain gut thing but I do) wants to

put him on Focalin (like ritalin) but I don't know if the GSE,

Chromium, No-fenol enzyme, L-glutamine, Zinc or nystatin would effect

using Focalin.

Thanks I am desperate for more info because of the push to put my son

on ADHD drugs. Thanks, Wanda

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[Guest guest]

Wanda, the biggest challenge for most parents with ADHD and autistic

kids is getting them onto a decent lower-carb diet. Along with the

anti-candida diet, which includes the immune-stabilizing effect of

undenatured whey and selenium, maybe a round of 4Life Transfer factor

will help rebound his immune system.

Glutamine is a food that will not compete with drugs and will not feed

yeast. Dr. Abram Hoffer of BC treats ADHD and even

schizophrenia with b-vitamins, extra b-3, zinc and a few other

minerals.

Duncan

>

> --- In candidiasis , Debby Padilla-Hudson ----

> Hi,

> I'm so glad to see this post about L-Glutamine and Chromium. They

> really do help with sugar balance? Does L-Glutamine cause yeast to

> get any worse in any way? As I have a four year old son with candida

> and gut inflamation. Also, After his recent ear infections and

> antibiotics he has seemed more hypoglycemic again. I didn't know if

> you could also use nystatin at the same time as GSE? Can you use

> L-Glutamine if you are on antidepressants? Also my son's nuerologist

> (who doesn't seem to believe in the brain gut thing but I do) wants

to

> put him on Focalin (like ritalin) but I don't know if the GSE,

> Chromium, No-fenol enzyme, L-glutamine, Zinc or nystatin would effect

> using Focalin.

> Thanks I am desperate for more info because of the push to put my son

> on ADHD drugs. Thanks, Wanda

>

[Guest guest]

I'd like to add to 's post that L-glutamine is a major

component of undenatured whey, and that people using whey probably

don't need to add l-glutamine to their regime.

Body builders who do not use l-glutamine usually use whey to exploit

its metabolic increasing property.

The Dyna Whey I'm using this week for example is about 1/6 glutamine,

more than 5 grams per scoop dose, and I do it twice daily like a lot

of people.

Maybe I've saved someone some money

Duncan

>

> L-glutamine is a natural amino acid and you cannot take too much

and it doesn't interfer with any meds. It's function is to keep up

muscle AND it also is one of the main food sources of the intestinal

wall so it's fundamental to curing a leaky gut. It doesn't feed

candida and I read somewhere that weight lifters (who usually take l-

glutamine) NEVER get leaky gut or candida (probably also due to low-

sugar diets).

>

> The important thing with L-glutamine is that is should be taken on

an empty stomach. Two hours after a meal & at least a half an hour

before the next meal. I ususally wake up and take 2 grams of it

around 4 am and then go back to sleep.

>

> IMO, everyone should take it daily!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: prebiotics

>

> --- In candidiasis, Debby Padilla-Hudson ----

> Hi,

> I'm so glad to see this post about L-Glutamine and Chromium. They

> really do help with sugar balance? Does L-Glutamine cause yeast to

> get any worse in any way? As I have a four year old son with candida

> and gut inflamation. Also, After his recent ear infections and

> antibiotics he has seemed more hypoglycemic again. I didn't know if

> you could also use nystatin at the same time as GSE? Can you use

> L-Glutamine if you are on antidepressants? Also my son's nuerologist

> (who doesn't seem to believe in the brain gut thing but I do) wants

to

> put him on Focalin (like ritalin) but I don't know if the GSE,

> Chromium, No-fenol enzyme, L-glutamine, Zinc or nystatin would

effect

> using Focalin.

> Thanks I am desperate for more info because of the push to put my

son

> on ADHD drugs. Thanks, Wanda

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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> >

> > L-glutamine is a natural amino acid and you cannot take too much

> and it doesn't interfer with any meds. It's function is to keep up

> muscle AND it also is one of the main food sources of the intestinal

> wall so it's fundamental to curing a leaky gut. It doesn't feed

> candida and I read somewhere that weight lifters (who usually take l-

> glutamine) NEVER get leaky gut or candida (probably also due to low-

> sugar diets).

> >

> > The important thing with L-glutamine is that is should be taken on

> an empty stomach. Two hours after a meal & at least a half an hour

> before the next meal. I ususally wake up and take 2 grams of it

> around 4 am and then go back to sleep.

> >

> > IMO, everyone should take it daily!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: prebiotics

> >

> > --- In candidiasis, Debby Padilla-Hudson ----

> > Hi,

> > I'm so glad to see this post about L-Glutamine and Chromium. They

> > really do help with sugar balance? Does L-Glutamine cause yeast to

> > get any worse in any way? As I have a four year old son with candida

> > and gut inflamation. Also, After his recent ear infections and

> > antibiotics he has seemed more hypoglycemic again. I didn't know if

> > you could also use nystatin at the same time as GSE? Can you use

> > L-Glutamine if you are on antidepressants? Also my son's nuerologist

> > (who doesn't seem to believe in the brain gut thing but I do) wants

> to

> > put him on Focalin (like ritalin) but I don't know if the GSE,

> > Chromium, No-fenol enzyme, L-glutamine, Zinc or nystatin would

> effect

> > using Focalin.

> > Thanks I am desperate for more info because of the push to put my

> son

> > on ADHD drugs. Thanks, Wanda

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Be aware that some people have a major reaction to inulin (as my husband did).

He thought he was going to explode (and almost hoped he would if it would

release the abdominal pressure. He felt bettter the next day but had a

miserable night.

S S

prebiotics

Posted by: " youngjaem " youngjaem@... youngjaem

Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:30 am (PDT)

do you use prebiotics like fos or inulin with yor probiotics?

[Guest guest]

how much did he take?

>

> Be aware that some people have a major reaction to inulin (as my

husband did). He thought he was going to explode (and almost hoped he

would if it would release the abdominal pressure. He felt bettter the

next day but had a miserable night.

> S S

>

> prebiotics

> Posted by: " youngjaem " youngjaem@... youngjaem

> Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:30 am (PDT)

> do you use prebiotics like fos or inulin with yor probiotics?

>

[Guest guest]

What was in a serving of Jerusalem artichokes (sunchokes) which he had had

before and not reacted to!

LInda S S

Re: prebiotics

Posted by: " youngjaem " youngjaem@... youngjaem

Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:39 pm (PDT)

how much did he take?

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In conjunction with probiotics.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/prebiotics/AN02032

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU520/ItemDetail

What are prebiotics? How are they different from probiotics, and what health

benefits do they offer?

Answer

from Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.

Prebiotics are nondigestible nutrients that are used as an energy source by

certain beneficial bacteria that naturally live in your intestines. Prebiotics

are sometimes known as fermentable fiber.

Probiotics, in contrast, are the beneficial, or friendly, bacteria themselves.

By acting as a food source, prebiotics give the probiotic bacteria a chance to

exert their influence. These friendly bacteria may have several health benefits,

from aiding digesting to boosting immunity. But stress, a poor diet, certain

medical conditions, medications and other factors may decrease the number of

healthy bacteria. Eating a diet that includes prebiotics and probiotics may help

restore these friendly bacteria.

The role of prebiotics in the treatment of disease is controversial, and more

studies are needed to determine their usefulness. But preliminary evidence shows

that prebiotics may have a role in:

Improving antibiotic-associated diarrhea

Improving traveler's diarrhea

Improving gastroenteritis

Normalizing bowel function

Improving colitis

Reducing irritable bowel problems

Aiding calcium absorption

Boosting your immune system

Prebiotics occur naturally in a variety of foods, especially high-fiber foods,

including certain fruits, vegetables and grains. The main food sources of

prebiotics include:

Artichokes

Bananas

Barley

Berries

Chicory

Dairy products

Flax

Garlic

Greens, such as dandelion greens, chard and kale

Honey

Leeks

Legumes

Onions

Wheat and whole grains, such as oatmeal

Prebiotics also are added to some dietary supplements and some processed foods,

such as yogurt, drink mixes and meal-replacement bars. Read food labels and

claims or seek out manufacturer Web sites to help identify which products

contain prebiotics. But keep in mind that not all products with naturally

occurring prebiotics are labeled that way. Prebiotic supplements can be

sprinkled on your food, stirred into beverages, or taken as capsules or tablets

that you swallow or chew.

There's no specific guideline on how many grams of prebiotics to consume. Some

studies suggest that you should get 3 to 8 grams a day to get the full benefits.

In some cases, use of prebiotics may cause intestinal gas. As always, check with

your doctor before taking any dietary or herbal supplements to make sure they're

safe for your situation.

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