Re: STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

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: Any observations since doing that? Jim

On 10/1/2010 11:50 AM, paul catania wrote:

Dear Jim and

group,

For

all those who were interested in my vortex

blender design to structure water, I want

to tell you about a few changes I've made.

I thought a lot about how to mimic

nature with all of her "streams and

creeks", in a blender, and this is the

only solution I've been able to come up

with so far. I wanted an inexpensive way

to suspend some rocks in the blender so

that they would take part in vortex that

is created, so I took a trip to the 99cent

store, and wound purchasing a "100 percent

cotton" doily, about 10 inches in

diameter. I bought an off white one so as

to minimize the chances of there being any

dye in it. It has a somewhat large enough

fishnet-like weave, to allow the water to

freely flow through it, and yet is small

enough to contain a few of the rocks I

also purchased in the store. After

thoroughly washing everything, I placed

about 5 or 6 of the larger rocks in the

center of the doily, and then connected

all the outer points together with one of

those little plastic straps that are used

to hold things in place. I then filled the

receptacle with water, about 3/4 of the

way to the top. Most blenders, and mine,

have a plastic insert on top, to allow for

the adding of ingredients during the

blending. I inserted the top of the doily

bag through this insert, and secured it

with a wooden dowel or wooden spoon. Then

I just turned it on (at first, I SLOWLY

PULSED, to make sure nothing was going to

hit). That's it.

Notes:

1) Any heavy

cotton, fishnet-like fabric will do, but

make sure that it will contain all of the

rocks, and not let one slip out when it

gets wet and stretches a little (as it

will).

2) Wash and

rinse your fabric thoroughly to make sure

there are no chemicals or dyes in it. I

used soap and water, rinsed a few times,

and then let it soak in an MMS solution.

3) Suspend the

rocks in the fabric above the halfway

point in the receptacle, because the bag

will come down a bit when it gets wet, due

to the heavy weight of the rocks.

4) I bought a

bag rocks in the 99cent store, just to

speed up things, but I think that a

few rocks that are personally collected by

you, from around your neighborhood, would

be best. Naturally, I would also wash the

rocks to clean off any chemicals, debris,

dirt, moss etc.

If

anyone is interested, I will TRY and take

some pictures tomorrow and post them.

Catania

[Guest guest]

Not really Jim,

I only completed it yesterday. My thoughts are to make enough to fill a gallon sized glass jug, replace the cap with some cheesecloth, place it in a plate full of magnetite, and then sit it out in the sun for a few hours. Hopefully the chlorine from the tap water will rise up through the top?

I sure wish I had a way to test the quality of the end results.

Maybe I'll look in the mirror next week and be 5 years younger. ;o)

Re: [ ] STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

: Any observations since doing that? Jim

[Guest guest]

:

Nah! It takes at least two weeks to get any visible results :-) .

You need to find a spring somewhere or at least start with

distilled or captured rainwater. Maybe you could build a simple

cistern with a glass container.

Jim

On 10/1/2010 12:36 PM, paul catania wrote:

Not really Jim,

I only completed it

yesterday. My thoughts are to make enough to fill a

gallon sized glass jug, replace the cap with some

cheesecloth, place it in a plate full of magnetite,

and then sit it out in the sun for a few hours.

Hopefully the chlorine from the tap water will rise up

through the top?

I sure wish I had a

way to test the quality of the end results.

Maybe I'll look in

the mirror next week and be 5 years younger. ;o)

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[ ] STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER

DEVICES

: Any observations since doing that? Jim

[Guest guest]

Hi Jim,

I live in Las Vegas. Not too many springs and hardly any rain. But I am going to (today) order one of those photonic structured water devices. I will then be starting with at least a somewhat better quality of water, and will do some experimenting with plants fed with

1) plain tap water from a friends house,

2) plain tap water run through the photonic structured water device in my house, and

3) both of those waters after running through my blender device.

I figure that my body should somewhat react the same way as the plants do, so I'm looking forward to the experiment.

Re: [ ] STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

:Nah! It takes at least two weeks to get any visible results :-) .You need to find a spring somewhere or at least start with distilled or captured rainwater. Maybe you could build a simple cistern with a glass container.JimOn 10/1/2010 12:36 PM, paul catania wrote:

Not really Jim,

I only completed it yesterday. My thoughts are to make enough to fill a gallon sized glass jug, replace the cap with some cheesecloth, place it in a plate full of magnetite, and then sit it out in the sun for a few hours. Hopefully the chlorine from the tap water will rise up through the top?

I sure wish I had a way to test the quality of the end results.

Maybe I'll look in the mirror next week and be 5 years younger. ;o)

[Guest guest]

Great, I for one will be very interested in your experiments! Or if you feel any difference after drinking it From: paul catania <squiggle2@...> Sent: Fri, 1 October, 2010 18:29:28Subject:

Re: [ ] STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

Hi Jim,

I live in Las Vegas. Not too many springs and hardly any rain. But I am going to (today) order one of those photonic structured water devices. I will then be starting with at least a somewhat better quality of water, and will do some experimenting with plants fed with

1) plain tap water from a friends house,

2) plain tap water run through the photonic structured water device in my house, and

3) both of those waters after running through my blender device.

I figure that my body should somewhat react the same way as the plants do, so I'm looking forward to the experiment.

Re: [ ] STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

:Nah! It takes at least two weeks to get any visible results :-) .You need to find a spring somewhere or at least start with distilled or captured rainwater. Maybe you could build a simple cistern with a glass container.JimOn 10/1/2010 12:36 PM, paul catania wrote:

Not really Jim,

I only completed it yesterday. My thoughts are to make enough to fill a gallon sized glass jug, replace the cap with some cheesecloth, place it in a plate full of magnetite, and then sit it out in the sun for a few hours. Hopefully the chlorine from the tap water will rise up through the top?

I sure wish I had a way to test the quality of the end results.

Maybe I'll look in the mirror next week and be 5 years younger. ;o)

[Guest guest]

Yes... plants should be a very good test.

On 10/1/2010 1:29 PM, paul catania wrote:

Hi Jim,

I live in Las

Vegas. Not too many springs and hardly any rain. But I

am going to (today) order one of those photonic

structured water devices. I will then be starting with

at least a somewhat better quality of water,

and will do some experimenting with plants fed with

1) plain tap water

from a friends house,

2) plain tap water

run through the photonic structured water device in my

house, and

3) both of those

waters after running through my blender device.

I figure that my

body should somewhat react the same way as the plants

do, so I'm looking forward to the experiment.

[Guest guest]

You need to use medical North if anybody use magnets!! need to know how to says

that is the NORT medical,oposite to radiosack North GB

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> >>I only completed it yesterday. My thoughts are to make enough to fill a

> >>gallon sized glass jug, replace the cap with some cheesecloth, place it

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> >>a plate full of magnetite, and then sit it out in the sun for a few

hours.

> >>Hopefully the chlorine from the tap water will rise up through the top?

> >>I sure wish I had a way to test the quality of the end results.

> >>Maybe I'll look in the mirror next week and be 5 years younger. ;o)

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[Guest guest]

Do you think using good-sized bamboos would work if you open the top and

drill a hole at its bottom then let a bottle of water sit there to flow to the

next chamber and then drill a hole at the lower chamber and catch with a glass

or bottle? Magnets can also be tied or taped outside the bamboo. Is this

feasible?

Just curious.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Are you thinking of pouring the water through the top of the bamboo and into the bottom? I don't know what the inside of bamboo looks like, but in my opinion, it would have to create a vortex of some sort in order to structure the water. If you don't want to use a blender, or say you were out somewhere where there is no electricity, I would go with a "revised outdoor protocol" that I gleaned from the Viktor Schauberger teachings.

Take a large clay pot, place some clean local rocks in the bottom, fill it with water, attach 's magnets on the outside of the pot, 180 degrees apart, and stir with either a wooden spoon or a copper pipe of some sort. Stir briskly clockwise, while being careful not to hit the rocks, until you get a good vortex going. Let it settle down a bit and then repeat the process counter-clockwise.

Hope this helps.

Catania

[ ] Re: STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

Do you think using good-sized bamboos would work if you open the top and drill a hole at its bottom then let a bottle of water sit there to flow to the next chamber and then drill a hole at the lower chamber and catch with a glass or bottle? Magnets can also be tied or taped outside the bamboo. Is this feasible?Just curious.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Bamboos are by segments. Top and last segments have covers which can be cut or

punctured. Segments are continuous so you can cut where you desire, depending

on length you want.

Thanks for the instructions using clay pot. Can volcanic rocks be used also? Or

should we just stick to plain rocks? This instruction is good should there be

no electricity.

Take care.

melly

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> Hi ,

>

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> Are you thinking of pouring the water through the top of the bamboo and into

the bottom? I don't know what the inside of bamboo looks like, but in my

opinion, it would have to create a vortex of some sort in order to structure the

water. If you don't want to use a blender, or say you were out somewhere where

there is no electricity, I would go with a " revised outdoor protocol " that I

gleaned from the Viktor Schauberger teachings.

>

> Take a large clay pot, place some clean local rocks in the bottom, fill it

with water, attach 's magnets on the outside of the pot, 180 degrees apart,

and stir with either a wooden spoon or a copper pipe of some sort. Stir briskly

clockwise, while being careful not to hit the rocks, until you get a good vortex

going. Let it settle down a bit and then repeat the process counter-clockwise.

>

>

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Catania

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>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I would think that volcanic rocks would be great, especially if they’re local. Whatever grows, flows or exists in your own environment, is, in my opinion, best. I love the clay pot method also, but if you're going to drink, bathe, cook and water your plants, garden and landscaping with it, it sure would be a time consuming chore. )

Sincerely,

Catania

[ ] Re: STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

Hi ,Bamboos are by segments. Top and last segments have covers which can be cut or punctured. Segments are continuous so you can cut where you desire, depending on length you want.Thanks for the instructions using clay pot. Can volcanic rocks be used also? Or should we just stick to plain rocks? This instruction is good should there be no electricity.Take care.melly >> Hi ,> > > > Are you thinking of pouring the water through the top of the bamboo and into the bottom? I don't know what the inside of bamboo looks like, but in my opinion, it would have to create a vortex of some sort in order to structure the water. If you don't want to use a blender, or say you were out somewhere where there is no electricity, I would go with a "revised outdoor protocol" that I gleaned from the Viktor Schauberger teachings.> > Take a large clay pot, place some clean local rocks in the bottom, fill it with water, attach 's magnets on the outside of the pot, 180 degrees apart, and stir with either a wooden spoon or a copper pipe of some sort. Stir briskly clockwise, while being careful not to hit the rocks, until you get a good vortex going. Let it settle down a bit and then repeat the process counter-clockwise.> > > > Hope this helps.> > Catania> > >

[Guest guest]

paul or melly,

how about using the wand or the pendants for stroke recovery????do ya'll know anything about that?

From: paul catania <squiggle2@...> Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 12:48:47 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

Hi ,

I would think that volcanic rocks would be great, especially if they’re local. Whatever grows, flows or exists in your own environment, is, in my opinion, best. I love the clay pot method also, but if you're going to drink, bathe, cook and water your plants, garden and landscaping with it, it sure would be a time consuming chore. )

Sincerely,

Catania

[ ] Re: STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

Hi ,Bamboos are by segments. Top and last segments have covers which can be cut or punctured. Segments are continuous so you can cut where you desire, depending on length you want.Thanks for the instructions using clay pot. Can volcanic rocks be used also? Or should we just stick to plain rocks? This instruction is good should there be no electricity.Take care.melly >> Hi ,> > > > Are you thinking of pouring the water through the top of the bamboo and into the bottom? I don't know what the inside of bamboo looks like, but in my opinion, it would have to create a vortex of some sort in order to structure the water. If

you don't want to use a blender, or say you were out somewhere where there is no electricity, I would go with a "revised outdoor protocol" that I gleaned from the Viktor Schauberger teachings.> > Take a large clay pot, place some clean local rocks in the bottom, fill it with water, attach 's magnets on the outside of the pot, 180 degrees apart, and stir with either a wooden spoon or a copper pipe of some sort. Stir briskly clockwise, while being careful not to hit the rocks, until you get a good vortex going. Let it settle down a bit and then repeat the process counter-clockwise.> > > > Hope this helps.> > Catania> > >

[Guest guest]

,

My late grandfather has a huge clay water receptacle with clay filters and

silver built in it and comes with a faucet. I think it is called a cistern, but

am not sure. They used it as water purification system when the water was not

this polluted. Maybe i can use this too and add the volcanic rocks (will it not

contain harmful elements) on the tray where they put the clay/silver filter. It

can contain more than 5 gallons at a time. It is huge. What do you think?

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> > Hi ,

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> >

> > Are you thinking of pouring the water through the top of the bamboo and

into the bottom? I don't know what the inside of bamboo looks like, but in my

opinion, it would have to create a vortex of some sort in order to structure the

water. If you don't want to use a blender, or say you were out somewhere where

there is no electricity, I would go with a " revised outdoor protocol " that I

gleaned from the Viktor Schauberger teachings.

> >

> > Take a large clay pot, place some clean local rocks in the bottom, fill it

with water, attach 's magnets on the outside of the pot, 180 degrees apart,

and stir with either a wooden spoon or a copper pipe of some sort. Stir briskly

clockwise, while being careful not to hit the rocks, until you get a good vortex

going. Let it settle down a bit and then repeat the process counter-clockwise.

> >

> >

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> >

> > Catania

> >

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[Guest guest]



Hello ,

I don't know much about the wand or the pendant. I don't think they would hurt, and they may be very helpful, but I wouldn't rely solely on them for your stroke recovery protocol.

Re: [ ] Re: STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

Hi ,

I would think that volcanic rocks would be great, especially if they’re local. Whatever grows, flows or exists in your own environment, is, in my opinion, best. I love the clay pot method also, but if you're going to drink, bathe, cook and water your plants, garden and landscaping with it, it sure would be a time consuming chore. )

Sincerely,

Catania

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

That sounds like a fantastic idea. What a great find.

Are you asking if the volcanic rocks, the cistern itself, or the clay/silver filter contain harmful elements?

Sometimes volcanic rocks are used in landscaping and may contain chemicals that would be hard to remove. The more rounded rocks that you would find in a stream or creek, I think, would work better from a vortex perspective. For that reason, I would rather use those.

As for the cistern and the clay/silver filter, please make sure they weren’t stored somewhere where they may have absorbed some harmful chemicals such as gasoline or insecticides. Otherwise, I think a good washing and a thorough rinsing should render them fit and ready to work.

Catania

[ ] Re: STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

,My late grandfather has a huge clay water receptacle with clay filters and silver built in it and comes with a faucet. I think it is called a cistern, but am not sure. They used it as water purification system when the water was not this polluted. Maybe i can use this too and add the volcanic rocks (will it not contain harmful elements) on the tray where they put the clay/silver filter. It can contain more than 5 gallons at a time. It is huge. What do you think?

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for your reply. I was asking about the volcanic rocks which you have

already addressed. There are many of those around our area. I will see if there

are pure ones up by the volcano's mouth.

The cistern is clean, it has been sitting in my grandfather's empty house which

is well maintained.

I shall start looking for rounded local stones then to put in my current

container.

I use Kulish's water magnet, and i have distilled water, would putting

rocks not give out a " confused " water?

Again, thanks for your patience in answering my questions.

>

> Hi ,

>

>

>

> That sounds like a fantastic idea. What a great find.

>

> Are you asking if the volcanic rocks, the cistern itself, or the clay/silver

filter contain harmful elements?

>

> Sometimes volcanic rocks are used in landscaping and may contain chemicals

that would be hard to remove. The more rounded rocks that you would find in a

stream or creek, I think, would work better from a vortex perspective. For that

reason, I would rather use those.

>

> As for the cistern and the clay/silver filter, please make sure they weren't

stored somewhere where they may have absorbed some harmful chemicals such as

gasoline or insecticides. Otherwise, I think a good washing and a thorough

rinsing should render them fit and ready to work.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I don't think so. The waters of a stream or creek are not confused. I believe that the vortexing over the rocks "cleans" their memory, and that any minerals that would be picked up from the rounded rocks from your environment, would be beneficial.

Some suppose that the distillation of water erases its memory of where it has been before. It also makes it devoid of any minerals. For that reason, when using distilled water, it may be beneficial to throw in a pinch of some good, quality sea salt.

Now this may be a little controversial, but in my humble opinion, a quiet, meditative moment spent over the water, thanking it and thinking about all the things you would like it to do for you, could be very synergistic.

[ ] Re: STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

,Thanks for your reply. I was asking about the volcanic rocks which you have already addressed. There are many of those around our area. I will see if there are pure ones up by the volcano's mouth.The cistern is clean, it has been sitting in my grandfather's empty house which is well maintained.I shall start looking for rounded local stones then to put in my current container.I use Kulish's water magnet, and i have distilled water, would putting rocks not give out a "confused" water?Again, thanks for your patience in answering my questions.

[Guest guest]

In our Joe Cell work, that fact that distilled water was devoid

of "life" was demonstrated quite objectively, but any water can be

brought back. This is only controversial to those who have not

done the work.

On 10/5/2010 11:26 AM, paul catania wrote:

Hi

,

I

don't think so. The waters of a stream or creek are

not confused. I believe that the vortexing over the

rocks "cleans" their memory, and that any minerals

that would be picked up from the rounded rocks from

your environment, would be beneficial.

Some

suppose that the distillation of water erases its

memory of where it has been before. It also makes it

devoid of any minerals. For that reason, when using

distilled water, it may be beneficial to throw in a

pinch of some good, quality sea salt.

Now

this may be a little controversial, but in

my humble opinion, a quiet, meditative moment spent

over the water, thanking it and thinking about all

the things you would like it to do for you, could be

very synergistic.

[ ] Re: STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER

DEVICES

,

Thanks for your reply. I was asking about the volcanic

rocks which you have already addressed. There are many

of those around our area. I will see if there are pure

ones up by the volcano's mouth.

The cistern is clean, it has been sitting in my

grandfather's empty house which is well maintained.

I shall start looking for rounded local stones then to

put in my current container.

I use Kulish's water magnet, and i have

distilled water, would putting rocks not give out a

"confused" water?

Again, thanks for your patience in answering my

questions.

[Guest guest]

THANK YOU PAUL.

From: paul catania <squiggle2@...> Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 10:41:15 AMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES



Hello ,

I don't know much about the wand or the pendant. I don't think they would hurt, and they may be very helpful, but I wouldn't rely solely on them for your stroke recovery protocol.

Re: [ ] Re: STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

Hi ,

I would think that volcanic rocks would be great, especially if they’re local. Whatever grows, flows or exists in your own environment, is, in my opinion, best. I love the clay pot method also, but if you're going to drink, bathe, cook and water your plants, garden and landscaping with it, it sure would be a time consuming chore. )

Sincerely,

Catania

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you again and again for your replies and detailed instructions.

I am so eager now to start my water vortex, i will look for rocks here in my own

yard first. Our area used to be a cattle ranch. Do you think the cattle manure

will contaminate those unpolished rocks with rounded corners? Will it be a good

idea? Our public water area (i.e., rivers, streams) here is so high in

flouride, would it be ok to search there too?

Thanks.

>

> Hi ,

>

>

>

> I don't think so. The waters of a stream or creek are not confused. I believe

that the vortexing over the rocks " cleans " their memory, and that any minerals

that would be picked up from the rounded rocks from your environment, would be

beneficial.

>

> Some suppose that the distillation of water erases its memory of where it has

been before. It also makes it devoid of any minerals. For that reason, when

using distilled water, it may be beneficial to throw in a pinch of some good,

quality sea salt.

>

>

>

> Now this may be a little controversial, but in my humble opinion, a quiet,

meditative moment spent over the water, thanking it and thinking about all the

things you would like it to do for you, could be very synergistic.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Thanks for your reply. I was asking about the volcanic rocks which you have

already addressed. There are many of those around our area. I will see if there

are pure ones up by the volcano's mouth.

>

> The cistern is clean, it has been sitting in my grandfather's empty house

which is well maintained.

>

> I shall start looking for rounded local stones then to put in my current

container.

>

> I use Kulish's water magnet, and i have distilled water, would putting

rocks not give out a " confused " water?

>

> Again, thanks for your patience in answering my questions.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jim,

What is a Joe cell? I seem to have missed some posts.

Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

Goggle it... long story.

On 10/6/2010 9:33 AM, wrote:

Jim,

What is a Joe cell? I seem to have missed some posts.

Thanks.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

On 2010-10-05 12:15 PM, Jim wrote:

> *In our Joe Cell work, that fact that distilled water was devoid of

> " life " was demonstrated quite objectively, but any water can be

> brought back.*

Personally, I think the best water is distilled (so it is pure), that

has had a tiny/appropriate amount of himalayan salt added (mineralized),

and is then ozonated - which electrically charges/activates/energizes

the water.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm no expert on rocks, but if it were me, I'd look for the solid type, that resemble glazed tile (hard and non porous).

I don't know what type of fluoride you say, that your waters are high in, but for that reason alone, I would shy away from any porous rocks (volcanic) and opt for the rounded, hard, smooth ones.

If you have rivers and streams in your area, why not restrict your search to just those areas, and concentrate on finding a handful of rocks that have already been rendered smooth by nature and her waters? That would seem to me to be ideal.

[ ] Re: STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES

,Thank you again and again for your replies and detailed instructions.I am so eager now to start my water vortex, i will look for rocks here in my own yard first. Our area used to be a cattle ranch. Do you think the cattle manure will contaminate those unpolished rocks with rounded corners? Will it be a good idea? Our public water area (i.e., rivers, streams) here is so high in flouride, would it be ok to search there too?Thanks.

[Guest guest]

this is perfect but has 2 kind of dest water.need says STEAM destilled.web says

this is already clustered/??

What i read recently i will buy h clark onidizer +ozonator for olive oil from

her.

bought hanna budwig books on cancer healing.very cheep and the best.gb

> > *In our Joe Cell work, that fact that distilled water was devoid of

> > " life " was demonstrated quite objectively, but any water can be

> > brought back.*

>

> Personally, I think the best water is distilled (so it is pure), that

> has had a tiny/appropriate amount of himalayan salt added (mineralized),

> and is then ozonated - which electrically charges/activates/energizes

> the water.

>