Re: Jim Humble MMS Newsletter

[Guest guest]

Sorry Jim,

The objection still stands...

Oxygen has an oxidation capacity of 1.30 volts. The body tries to handle this,

but oxidative damage still occurs. People use a diet rich in anti oxidants and

anti oxidant supplements to try to control the damage in the body.

While your body is struggling to deal with the free radicals produced naturally

inside the body, what happens when you add more oxidation...?

You still don't understand the chemistry of these chemicals.

Chlorine dioxide has an oxidation capacity of 0.95 volts, in an aqueous

solution. When you add chlorine dioxide to water, the PH of the water doesn't

change. If you start off with PH 7 water, and add chlorine dioxide to it, you

end up with water with chlorine dioxide with a PH of 7.

The MMS protocol involves adding an acid to sodium chlorite and drinking that

solution. This forms chlorous acid with a PH of about 3. If you start with PH

7 water and mix up a dose of MMS, you end up with a PH 3 solution of chlorous

acid. This does have some chlorine dioxide in it, but it is chlorous acid.

Chlorous acid has an oxidation capacity of 1.58 volts. This is almost 22%

higher than oxygen.

If damage is done to the body during natural oxidation (aging) how is it that

using a stronger oxidizing agent doesn't damage the body?

Looking at industrial accidents we know that chlorine dioxide gas in air damages

lung tissue at low concentrations. Chlorine dioxide gas has an oxidation

capacity of 1.57 volts. This means that chlorous acid (a mixed dose of MMS) is

a stronger oxidant than chlorine dioxide gas in air. If the body can't deal

with low concentrations of chlorine dioxide in the air, how is it that it can

completely take care of chlorous acid without suffering any damage?

What doses are we talking about?

A death in a paper plant resulted with a worker was exposed to an estimated 19

PPM concentration of chlorine dioxide gas in air. Rats exposed daily to 10 PPM

in the air died in about 2 weeks.

On the other hand, no adverse effects were observed with rats exposed to 0.1 PPM

chlorine dioxide gas in the air for 5 hours a day for 10 weeks. Also, humans

were tested at 5 PPM chlorine dioxide in water for 12 weeks with no adverse

effects.

How does this measure up to the MMS protocol?

The current protocol has people using 3 - 6 drops a dose and taking a dose every

hour or every two hours throughout the day. A 3 drop dose of MMS mixed

according to the MMS protocol has almost 200 PPM available chlorine dioxide and

is an acid with a PH of about 3.

Do you really expect us to believe that because 5 PPM chlorine dioxide in water

with an oxidation capacity of 0.95 volts was found safe when consumed by humans,

that this demonstrates that 200 PPM chlorous acid with an oxidation capacity of

1.58 volts is also safe and will do no damage to the body?

Tom

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wrote:

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>

> Jim Humble MMS Newsletter

>

> FDA SCARES AMERICANS,NOT!!

>

> October 2010

>

> A few weeks ago, of PGL (Project Green Life) a seller

>

> of MMS, was busy at work one morning when 5 men dressed in

>

> expensive suits walked in the door. They were from the FDA. They

>

> were there, they said, to enlist his cooperation in removing this

>

> dangerous chemical, MMS, from the market. They believed that many

>

> people would be going to jail for selling such a chemical. But they

>

> really wanted to give people a chance to cooperate. They mentioned

>

> no consideration, no advantage to those who did cooperate, nothing.

>

> They just wanted to give some people a chance to cooperate, they

>

> said.

>

> Their very attitude struck fear into all those who were there.

> 's

>

> partner, went immediately home, returned that evening and resigned,

>

> never to return. agreed to recall all the thousands of bottles of

>

> MMS that he had ever sold. He would cooperate as there seemed to

>

> be no other choice. Or ---- that's --- the—way-- it seemed. I

> wrote a

>

> letter to telling him not to listen to the FDA, but it seemed

> that

>

> he was determined to cooperate. In my Newsletter I went on record

>

> as being totally against caving into the FDA. I felt that users

> of

>

> MMS had to know that I was totally against caving in, in any way. On

>

> the other hand, left a little note in his email to me making me

>

> realize that he had something up his sleeve. I wrote him that I had to

>

> go on record as being against what the FDA wanted, but I would help

>

> him in any way I could.

>

> As it turned out, I had the Church, the Genesis 2 Church come up

>

> with $10,000 for s defense. That's one of the things the

>

> Church does, protect its members. And he used the money to create

>

> a Private Health Care Membership Association. It just happens

>

> that the Supreme Court has ruled favorably for private associations

>

> more than 30 times in the last 50 years. It happens that this country

>

> conducts its business in two areas, one is public, and the other is

>

> private. The FDA, CIA and all the other alphabet soups are not

>

> allowed to interfere in the private area except in cases of a clear and

>

> present danger. The various private government agencies which all

>

> the government agencies are, are formed to protect the public, not the

>

> private.

>

> There is an interesting point of law here I might mention. The

>

> FDA is a private corporation. They have an EIN number (employer

>

> identification number). They pay taxes. A private corporation has

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> no authority over a private business. So how do they get authority?

>

> They must get a contract with any business in order to get the

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> authority. The way they do that is they call you up and ask for

>

> permission to visit. Then they will come and visit and discuss many

>

> things, and during that time there will be numerous things you can say

>

> that will be assumed contracts.

>

> The situation was that the FDA made a big error in coming to

> 's

>

> business in the first place. They were so anxious to put the fear into

>

> that they did not follow the rules set by the laws and earlier

>

> court precedents. The law says that the FDA must notify the people

>

> before coming and then when they arrive they must tell the owner in

>

> clear language why they are going to investigate him. They may then

>

> make further appointments. They also didn't send him a copy of the

>

> complaint. These errors are covered by the following court cases.

>

>

>

> â— v. Scherer, 82 L. Ed. 2d 139 at 155;

>

> â— Armstrong v. Mauzo, 14 L. Ed. 2d 62;

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> â— Grannis v. Ordean 58 L. Ed. 1363;

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> â— Mathews v. Eldridge, 47 L. Ed. 2d 18.

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> â— And others.

>

>

>

> At the advice of people who knew what they were doing he then wrote

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> a letter informing the FDA that he would beginning to sell MMS to

>

> his private membership at a certain date and they had 10 days to

>

> voice their objections, if they have any. WELL, DANIEL IS NOW BACK

>

> SELLING MMS TO HIS PRIVATE MEMBERS. AND OTHER COMPANIES

>

> ARE STARTING UP WITH THE SAME IDEA IN MIND. The FDA didn't

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> decrease the number of sellers of MMS, they increased it as a result of

>

> scaring people, many people researched the law and found that they

>

> could indeed sell MMS Legally.

>

> Changing the subject, I have a couple of success stories from people

>

> who have just sent in their testimony. We get at least one a day.

>

> The following is someone else writing:

>

>

>

> " My father had early signs of dementia or Alzheimer's and now

> his mental

>

> state is improving daily. The miracles I have seen with mms is so

> miraculous its

>

> clear a guy like you Jim did not name this solution lightly, you named

> it perfectly Jim

>

> (Miracle Mineral Solution) with a scientific explanation anybody can

> understand. My

>

> friend has had fibromyalgia as you know incurable, he is now playing

> golf again after

>

> 12 years, his multiple sclerosis friend is out jogging again after 6

> years of suffering,

>

> he was on the verge of getting a wheelchair and after just 4 days taking

> mms he

>

> is no long thinking of it. My motor mechanic friend used 3 years of

> creams on his

>

> hands and eventually steroid cream to no avail. The dry cracked skin

> condition on

>

> his hands was one half gone after one wash over by the next morning, and

> all gone

>

> in three days. "

>

>

>

> Here is one more:

>

>

>

> " Dear Mr. Humble, I thought you would like to know that I have cured

> myself of

>

> uterine and ovarian cancer with MMS. One year ago I was diagnosed with

> stage 4 malignant

>

> melanoma (skin cancer spread on my lymph nodes). I had an ultrasound in

> June of this

>

> year. The doctor said I had a tumor on my right ovary and my uterus

> showed signs of cancer/

>

> precancer. The doctor said I would have to have a hysterectomy. We

> decided to repeat

>

> the ultrasound in 1 month and do a biopsy and schedule the surgery after

> the results of the

>

> second ultrasound. In July I did a course of MMS lasting about 3 weeks.

> The MMS treatment

>

> was unpleasant. (WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER TREATMENT NOW). Every time I took

> a dose

>

> I felt ill. I had diarrhea, vomiting, and nausea. I experience

> excruciating pain in my right

>

> side (the affected ovary). I stuck with it dropping down a few drops

> then ramping back up

>

> until I reached 15 drops 2 times a day. (WE NEVER DO THAT ANY MORE. WE

> TAKE MUCH

>

> SMALLER DOSES AND THE NEW PROTOCOLS ARE MORE EFFECTIVE). I found that I

> would

>

> get less nauseas if I ate a half hour before taking MMS. I just got the

> results of the repeat

>

> ultra sound. The ovarian tumor is gone completely and my uterus is

> normal and healthy.

>

> The doctor said he doesn't know why but I no longer need surgery or

> a biopsy. Everything is

>

> normal. Sincerely. "

>

>

>

> (Can't use their names but if someone wanted to ask for

>

> permission to contact her we can write her for permission or maybe

>

> have her write you). (THE NEW PROTOCOL CONSISTS OF SMALL

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> HOURLY DOSES AND THE PRACTICE IS TO ALWAYS STOP SHORT OF

>

> NAUSEA OR PAIN).

>

> So far we have had people from more than 40 countries come to

>

> our seminars her in the Dominican Republic. You can come for 1 or 2

>

> weeks, but most people come for two weeks. Last seminar only one

>

> person didn't stay for the last week. The first week is the complete

>

> theory and protocols of MMS. And the second week is 3 days of

>

> practical experience treating local villagers, normally treating several

>

> hundred villagers. Our class rooms, sleeping quarters, dining and

>

> kitchen area and everything is behind 12 foot cement walls. It is a well

>

> done compound here in the Dominican Republic on the outskirts of a

>

> larger city called Barahona. We furnish water to the local villagers and

>

> some work for us, and thus they are our very good friends.

>

> All those completing the first week are awarded a Minister of Health

>

> Class 1 and those completing the second week are awarded a Minister

>

> of Health Class 2. A doctor of MMS will be awarded in the future to

>

> those who have really used MMS to help people with their health.

>

> Requirements will be listed at a future date for this certificate, as

> will

>

> requirements for Priest and Priestess and for Bishop. The cost of the

>

> course is $1000 for the first week and $500 for the second week. All

>

> those who come make friends and contacts of people from around

>

> the world. Most have told me that this is one of the most meaningful

>

> experience of their lives. OH YES, I ALMOST FORGOT, SPOUSES

>

> COME FREE.

>

> For more info. please contact us at mmsforhispaniola@...

> <mailto:mmsforhispaniola@...>

>

>

>

> Don't forget our video course is now delivering. It is a full week

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> with a complete test at the end. Pass the test and you can become

>

> a minister. Cost is $375. You get 4 super concentrated disks, the

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> complete transcript of the same course but an earlier presentation

>

> so you can read an earlier presentation of the same data, and a

>

> comprehensive test that proves you know the data or not. When

>

> you pass the test, we will send you a " Certificate of

> Completion "

>

> and " Minister of Health certificate " .

>

> For more info., please contact us @ genesis2mission@...

> <mailto:genesis2mission@...>

>

>

>

> And now one small point of layman technical data before I leave you.

>

> Oxygen is an oxidizer. But that also makes it bleach. Oxygen oxidizes

>

> things in the body which creates heat and life. Oxygen is powerful and

>

> thus the body generates antioxidants to prevent oxygen from doing

>

> damage, none the less, it does a certain amount of damage. MMS

>

> is an oxidizer. It is a bleach as well, but it is a weaker bleach than

>

> oxygen. MMS will not bleach or oxidize as many things in the body

>

> as will Oxygen. The fact is MMS is less damaging to the body than

>

> is oxygen, but MMS cannot keep the body alive with oxidation like

>

> oxygen can. Each has its job, but the fact is, MMS cannot damage the

>

> body with oxidation as it is a weaker oxidizer than oxygen. There is

>

> one other thing that MMS can do in the body. It can oxidize heavy

>

> metal compounds. Please understand this as it overcomes many of

>

> the objections now being voiced.

>

>

>

> Jim Humble

>

>

>

> MMS saves lives!!!!

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>

>

>

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> For more info., please contact us at the following e-mails:

>

>

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> 1.

> MMS Seminars: mmsforhispaniola@...

> <mailto:mmsforhispaniola@...>

>

> 2.

> MMS Video course: genesis2mission@...

> <mailto:genesis2mission@...>

>

> 3.

> Genesis II Church membership: g2church777@...

> <mailto:g2church777@...>

>

> 4.

> MMS newsletters: g2church777@... <mailto:g2church777@...>

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> 5.

> MMS Info. and inquiries: mmsforhispaniola@...

> <mailto:mmsforhispaniola@...>

>

> 6.

> Genesis II Church Hompage: Genesis2church.org

>

> 7.

> Genesis II Church blog: Genesis2church.com

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Tom, gotta hand it to you mate! Seems like you are talking to a brick wall, so please excuse me if this sounds like a stupid question....

From your quotation I've plucked below are you actually saying that those of us who are using the current protocol are actually doing damage to our bodies by following these recommendations?

Thanks, Rob

<<<<

The current protocol has people using 3 - 6 drops a dose and taking a dose every hour or every two hours throughout the day. A 3 drop dose of MMS mixed according to the MMS protocol has almost 200 PPM available chlorine dioxide and is an acid with a PH of about 3. Do you really expect us to believe that because 5 PPM chlorine dioxide in water with an oxidation capacity of 0.95 volts was found safe when consumed by humans, that this demonstrates that 200 PPM chlorous acid with an oxidation capacity of 1.58 volts is also safe and will do no damage to the body?>>>>>I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 15623 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now!

[Guest guest]

Hello Rob,

The only " stupid " question is the question that is not asked...

You may have missed my point. I can find no studies involving humans ingesting

chlorous acid. No one has looked at what damage is possible, and what levels

are safe to take.

In addition there is some " smoke and mirrors " going on here. Touting the safety

of chlorine dioxide and then switching to ingesting chlorous acid shows a lack

of understanding of this chemistry.

If we suffer from oxidative damage from oxygen, it is not unreasonable to think

that there could be damage from a stronger oxidizer like chlorous acid?

To directly answer your question, Yes, you are doing damage to your body.

Think of the MMS protocol as a dilute chemo therapy. It can kill off some

pathogens, but it takes some " good stuff " along with it in the process. How

much damage is being done is unknown.

It is wonderful that Jim Humble can raise funds to preserve the sales of MMS,

but it is unfortunate that he can come up with a couple of thousand dollars to

run some tests on the safety of using it...

Tom

>

> Hey Tom, gotta hand it to you mate! Seems like you are talking to a brick

wall, so please excuse me if this sounds like a stupid question....

>

> From your quotation I've plucked below are you actually saying that those of

us who are using the current protocol are actually doing damage to our bodies by

following these recommendations?

>

> Thanks, Rob

> <<<<

> The current protocol has people using 3 - 6 drops a dose and taking a dose

every hour or every two hours throughout the day. A 3 drop dose of MMS mixed

according to the MMS protocol has almost 200 PPM available chlorine dioxide and

is an acid with a PH of about 3.

>

> Do you really expect us to believe that because 5 PPM chlorine dioxide in

water with an oxidation capacity of 0.95 volts was found safe when consumed by

humans, that this demonstrates that 200 PPM chlorous acid with an oxidation

capacity of 1.58 volts is also safe and will do no damage to the body?

> >>>>>

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[Guest guest]

i agree,if malaria healed by one dosing it is absurd to use this way.aldo the

questions not good either mr jim says start very low and if vomiting than take

less,but if 2 day not vomithing my oponion to not need to use at all gb

> >

> > Hey Tom, gotta hand it to you mate! Seems like you are talking to a brick

wall, so please excuse me if this sounds like a stupid question....

> >

> > From your quotation I've plucked below are you actually saying that those of

us who are using the current protocol are actually doing damage to our bodies by

following these recommendations?

> >

> > Thanks, Rob

> > <<<<

> > The current protocol has people using 3 - 6 drops a dose and taking a dose

every hour or every two hours throughout the day. A 3 drop dose of MMS mixed

according to the MMS protocol has almost 200 PPM available chlorine dioxide and

is an acid with a PH of about 3.

> >

> > Do you really expect us to believe that because 5 PPM chlorine dioxide in

water with an oxidation capacity of 0.95 volts was found safe when consumed by

humans, that this demonstrates that 200 PPM chlorous acid with an oxidation

capacity of 1.58 volts is also safe and will do no damage to the body?

> > >>>>>

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[Guest guest]

How does MMS kill the bacteria?

Posted by: admin in Bacteria, aerobic, anaerobic, pathogens, tags: aerobic, anaerobic, Bacteria, pathogens

If

the MMS kills bacteria, how does it deal with the body’s naturual bacteria which consists of 80% good and 20% bad? I know you state that it leaves healthy cells and kills the harmful ones, but can it differentiate between bacteria and leave the body’s natural bacteria (good and bad) alone? If all the bacteria is destroyed are you promoting

a probiotic?

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Good

bacteria in the body are known as aerobic bacteria (that means that they use oxygen). Disease causing bacteria are Anaerobic (that means they do not use oxygen). You might suppose then, that there is some sort of a difference between them and that is true, there is a difference. Guess what, the unique qualities of the MMS ion (chlorine dioxide) allows it to see the difference between the two different bacteria, and thus it only destroys the anaerobic bacteria (that’s the disease causing bacteria). This is also controlled by the white blood cells in the immune system which have the ability to use chlorine dioxide against the diseases.

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