Re: Please help make sense of this - autopsy report

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Hi Sunny,I'm taking both mms and mms11 and doing so because I've tuned into Adam Abraham's interviews http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6CLwMrhwZAwith Jim Humble to get educated. Jim says that over 6 million people have taken mms with nodeaths. So, if this lady died it was probably from other reasons and not the mms. Thousands ofpeople die each year from pharmaceuticals. MMS in small doses is not harmful according toDr. Humiston and other physicians who use mms in their practice. Dr. Humiston gives to his 4 young children.I'm on my 7th day of the 3 week protocol and do notice I'm getting better. But at times I get a littlesick but I know this happens

when the microbes die off. Hope this helps.Blessings,From: Sunny <sunwaterclear@...> Sent: Tue, January 18, 2011 6:15:56 PMSubject: [ ] Please help make sense of this - autopsy report Hey folks, Like you, I've used MMS for a number of things and have 4 bottles of it stored up bought just before Project Greenlife was forced to issue their statement and withdraw

it.I saw this article today about an autopsy report on a woman who took MMS and died. The article is complex and long and I just skimmed it, but I think it would behove us all to check it out further. I would be saddened to find that it is dangerous... and I'm prepared to investigate further. Please share your thoughts - we don't seem to know how much she took.. and how careful we need to be about quantities... and also what is the difference between the new protocols MMS2 and MMS .With care and concernSunnyhttp://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/mms-autopsy-report-finally-public-but-mysteries-abound A peek into

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This article told me of so many mistakes that the Lab made. Toxicology test

should of been one of the first test performed. Many chemicals dissipate in

time. They seem to have made there own time frame as for correct procedures.ting

dangerous consequences.

I for one find cause for question of this determination.

Thousands of people have taken this MMS as directed without a Dangerous result.

Thousands have died due to FDA Approved Drugs. It takes many deaths to get the

FDA to Pull a Product.

So I am not convinced this is Dangerous if followed correctly.

M~R

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--- In , Sunny <sunwaterclear@...>

wrote:

>

> Hey folks, Like you, I've used MMS for a number of things and have 4 bottles

of

> it stored up bought just before Project Greenlife was forced to issue their

> statement and withdraw it.

>

> I saw this article today about an autopsy report on a woman who took MMS and

> died. The article is complex and long and I just skimmed it, but I think it

> would behove us all to check it out further. I would be saddened to find

that

> it is dangerous... and I'm prepared to investigate further.

>

> Please share your thoughts - we don't seem to know how much she took.. and how

> careful we need to be about quantities... and also what is the difference

> between the new protocols MMS2 and MMS .

>

> With care and concern

>

> Sunny

>

>

http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/mms-autopsy-report-finally-publ\

ic-but-mysteries-abound

>

>

> A peek into our world..

> Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All

>

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wellness,

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>

>

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so true From: rw@...Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:29:33 +0000Subject: [ ] Re: Please help make sense of this - autopsy report

This article told me of so many mistakes that the Lab made. Toxicology test should of been one of the first test performed. Many chemicals dissipate in time. They seem to have made there own time frame as for correct procedures.ting dangerous consequences.

I for one find cause for question of this determination.

Thousands of people have taken this MMS as directed without a Dangerous result.

Thousands have died due to FDA Approved Drugs. It takes many deaths to get the FDA to Pull a Product.

So I am not convinced this is Dangerous if followed correctly.

M~R

Continue reading on Examiner.com: MMS: autopsy report, unsolved mysteries, Gulf targeted - National Human Rights | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/mms-autopsy-report-finally-public-but-mysteries-abound#ixzz1BRqG7z3Z

>

> Hey folks, Like you, I've used MMS for a number of things and have 4 bottles of

> it stored up bought just before Project Greenlife was forced to issue their

> statement and withdraw it.

>

> I saw this article today about an autopsy report on a woman who took MMS and

> died. The article is complex and long and I just skimmed it, but I think it

> would behove us all to check it out further. I would be saddened to find that

> it is dangerous... and I'm prepared to investigate further.

>

> Please share your thoughts - we don't seem to know how much she took.. and how

> careful we need to be about quantities... and also what is the difference

> between the new protocols MMS2 and MMS .

>

> With care and concern

>

> Sunny

>

> http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/mms-autopsy-report-finally-public-but-mysteries-abound

>

>

> A peek into our world..

> Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All

>

> Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness,

> human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge?

>

>

> Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth

> Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v

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Hello Sunny,

Increased levels of methemoglobin are an indication of oxidative stress. If the

level gets high enough, it can contribute to the cause of death.

I am not sure about the 45% level. Another source indicates that 70% causes

death and the 45% level causes fatigue, confusion, dizziness, tachypnea, and

palpitations. If there were other issues, this high level wouldn't help things

at all.

Normal levels are 1% or less, and you don't begin to experience symptoms until

the levels get up over 10%.

Increased methemoglobin is noticed as a side effect in animal testing with

chlorine dioxide. The Lubbers study did not see this at a 5 PPM concentration

over 12 weeks, but MMS forms chlorous acid and that is different than chlorine

dioxide. Also, the MMS protocol calls for much higher concentrations being

used. A 3 drop dose mixed according to the MMS protocol has a concentration of

around 190 PPM.

I believe this is a pretty standard test. If you want to know if you are

increasing oxidative stress to your body by taking MMS, have a test done to

determine the level of methemoglobin in your blood. If your level is below 1%,

there is no concern.

Here is a write up on methemoglobin.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/204178-overview

As far as I know, Jim Humble doesn't acknowledge that there can be oxidative

damage from following the MMS protocol, and he hasn't checked methemoglobin

levels on any of the people he is working with.

Tom

--- In , Sunny <sunwaterclear@...>

wrote:

>

> Hey folks, Like you, I've used MMS for a number of things and have 4 bottles

of

> it stored up bought just before Project Greenlife was forced to issue their

> statement and withdraw it.

>

> I saw this article today about an autopsy report on a woman who took MMS and

> died. The article is complex and long and I just skimmed it, but I think it

> would behove us all to check it out further. I would be saddened to find

that

> it is dangerous... and I'm prepared to investigate further.

>

> Please share your thoughts - we don't seem to know how much she took.. and how

> careful we need to be about quantities... and also what is the difference

> between the new protocols MMS2 and MMS .

>

> With care and concern

>

> Sunny

>

>

http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/mms-autopsy-report-finally-publ\

ic-but-mysteries-abound

>

>

> A peek into our world..

> Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All

>

> Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural

wellness,

> human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge?

>

>

> Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth

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Thank you, Tom I appreciate you taking the time to respond! And everyone else! It helps to have many different angles...it's so easy to just believe something because 'they' the almighty powers that be in authority, say so!!xx A peek into our world.. Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for AllFeed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge? Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler lifeTune in and friend us on Facebook - Pierre Soleil return to earth From: silverfox_science

<poast@...> Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 3:33:59 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Please help make sense of this - autopsy report

Hello Sunny,

Increased levels of methemoglobin are an indication of oxidative stress. If the level gets high enough, it can contribute to the cause of death.

I am not sure about the 45% level. Another source indicates that 70% causes death and the 45% level causes fatigue, confusion, dizziness, tachypnea, and palpitations. If there were other issues, this high level wouldn't help things at all.

Normal levels are 1% or less, and you don't begin to experience symptoms until the levels get up over 10%.

Increased methemoglobin is noticed as a side effect in animal testing with chlorine dioxide. The Lubbers study did not see this at a 5 PPM concentration over 12 weeks, but MMS forms chlorous acid and that is different than chlorine dioxide. Also, the MMS protocol calls for much higher concentrations being used. A 3 drop dose mixed according to the MMS protocol has a concentration of around 190 PPM.

I believe this is a pretty standard test. If you want to know if you are increasing oxidative stress to your body by taking MMS, have a test done to determine the level of methemoglobin in your blood. If your level is below 1%, there is no concern.

Here is a write up on methemoglobin.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/204178-overview

As far as I know, Jim Humble doesn't acknowledge that there can be oxidative damage from following the MMS protocol, and he hasn't checked methemoglobin levels on any of the people he is working with.

Tom

>

> Hey folks, Like you, I've used MMS for a number of things and have 4 bottles of

> it stored up bought just before Project Greenlife was forced to issue their

> statement and withdraw it.

>

> I saw this article today about an autopsy report on a woman who took MMS and

> died. The article is complex and long and I just skimmed it, but I think it

> would behove us all to check it out further. I would be saddened to find that

> it is dangerous... and I'm prepared to investigate further.

>

> Please share your thoughts - we don't seem to know how much she took.. and how

> careful we need to be about quantities... and also what is the difference

> between the new protocols MMS2 and MMS .

>

> With care and concern

>

> Sunny

>

> http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/mms-autopsy-report-finally-public-but-mysteries-abound

>

>

> A peek into our world..

> Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All

>

> Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural wellness,

> human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and emerge?

>

>

> Follow us on Twitter - www.twitter.com/return2earth

> Wellness v pharma, free energy v oil, own grown v processed food, community v

> nuclear, natural building v concrete, consciousness v asleep Info on what's

> going on and alternative and natural technologies for a simpler life

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>