Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Hello - I too am using MMS to fight CLL and my story is almost identical to Malcom's. I would really appreciate hearing any thoughts on why this has happened. Should MMS treatment continue? On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Malcolm <malcolm.latour@...> wrote: Greetings, I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat CLL chronic lymphocytic leukemia. CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown dramatically worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment. I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill protocol supplements. I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood chemistry is rapidly worsening. Any thoughts? Malcolm -- VickiI was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. -- Boone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 The protocol for life threatening conditions is now 2000--check Jim Humbles revised website. Protocol 2000 includes taking MMS2 capsules every two hours (on the half hour) and MMS1 every hour on the hour for ten hours every day until the condition is cleared. --- malcolm.latour@... wrote: From: " Malcolm " <malcolm.latour@...> Subject: [ ] Question for group Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 06:20:29 -0000 Greetings, I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat CLL chronic lymphocytic leukemia. CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown dramatically worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment. I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill protocol supplements. I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood chemistry is rapidly worsening. Any thoughts? Malcolm ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Better solutions for Leukemia would be taking Lugol's iodine and food grade hydrogen peroxide. Also very helpful is to go to an alkaline diet and take several antifungals, such as Graviola, Pau d'Arco, Tumeric, and Gingko. www.alternative-cancer-cures.com > > Greetings, > > I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat CLL chronic lymphocytic leukemia. > > CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown dramatically worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment. > > I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill protocol supplements. > > I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood chemistry is rapidly worsening. > > Any thoughts? > > Malcolm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Have you looked in the gb4000 (rife machine) I used MMS and ozone and I believe it made my situation worse...however others would disagree that was the cause. But when your dealing with ca just b/c one thing worked for one person doesn't mean it will work for us. So my motto is if it's not working move on! Also I would like to talk to all the people that mms1 and 2 has helped for cancer...where are they...? Hope this helps! "and the day came when the risk it took to remain in a tight blossom was more painful than the risk it took to bloom..." Anais NinFrom: Yochanan <yburkett@...>Subject: [ ] Re: Question for group Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 8:51 AM Better solutions for Leukemia would be taking Lugol's iodine and food grade hydrogen peroxide. Also very helpful is to go to an alkaline diet and take several antifungals, such as Graviola, Pau d'Arco, Tumeric, and Gingko. www.alternative-cancer-cures.com > > Greetings, > > I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat CLL chronic lymphocytic leukemia. > > CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown dramatically worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment. > > I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill protocol supplements. > > I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood chemistry is rapidly worsening. > > Any thoughts? > > Malcolm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 vegeterians think they are right.But vegetables do NOT have complex aminoes pluss so hard for the body to remade for avail to the body. try buy catle liver ,make frizing and put in capsules. daytime use medical north magnets on your kidney for 20 minutes. actually your sicness is:bacterias changed your blood iron from NORT pole to South pole ,what bacterias feed on. if you remade north pole again with this simple trick your sicness dissapearing according Dr Hulda clark.net her books are everywhere GYB > > From: " Malcolm " <malcolm.latour@...> > > Subject: [ ] Question for group > Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 06:20:29 -0000 > > Greetings, > > I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat CLL chronic lymphocytic leukemia. > > CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown dramatically worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment. > > I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill protocol supplements. > > I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood chemistry is rapidly worsening. > > Any thoughts? > > Malcolm > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Hello Malcolm, Chlorous acid and chlorine dioxide are both oxidizers. Chlorine dioxide has been studied in humans at low concentrations, but chlorous acid has not. At higher concentrations, chlorine dioxide damages blood cells. A 12 week study was done using chlorine dioxide in water at a concentration of 5 PPM. Please note that MMS forms chlorous acid that has chlorine dioxide in it, but ingesting chlorous acid has not been studied. The concentration used in the study was 5 PPM. The concentration of a 3 drop dose of MMS is about 190 PPM available chlorine dioxide. As you can see, a 3 drop dose has a much higher concentration than the 5 PPM that was used in the study. Since most people don't bother to do blood tests while taking MMS, there is little information on this. It is very possible that you are damaging your blood cells. At 5 PPM no adverse effects were observed over the 12 week period of the test. If you put your 3 drop dose of MMS in 5 liters of water and drank that, you would be very close to the 5 PPM concentration used in the study. I would suggest stopping MMS and taking a few days of antioxidants to clear all of the chlorite out of your body. Chlorite has a half life of a little over 40 hours, so it will take awhile to get it out of your body. Then have your blood tested again and see if that made a difference. Tom > > Greetings, > > I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat CLL chronic lymphocytic leukemia. > > CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown dramatically worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment. > > I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill protocol supplements. > > I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood chemistry is rapidly worsening. > > Any thoughts? > > Malcolm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 again...Your blood already sick....you need to reading books Dr Hulda ,,have 5 books go to a bookstore take the last book from there and read what apply to you!!!i gess 3 days every 2 hours in a capsule 1 drops will enouf with drink before 1 glass or more water and after drink water also,but if you took MMS1 as you says NO MORE right now.my doughter healing up by MMS1 from breat cancer but needed to stop for now.So much yeast died in her is still coming outh.She drinket for the alkalize slogan.her Ph was 8.2/not from the MMS1 but needed to stop now/taket for 3 weeks/ if You think this :the uncurable disese in Africa cured by 1 dose MMS1 as we read on Jim Humble book -so why we need to take so much amount?? Ok so much yeast need to kill as groving fast.But Jim Humble stating Need to use Minerals that acting as anti-oxidants after MMS1 and MMS2.MMS2 get all my dark brown towels burned by MMS2 white points showing up,as i used in the bathroom.I drinket 2 time to try.but think of that how strong it is!!!!if i become sick I will use one time only.Good for cleaning everything doe.gyb > > > Hello Malcolm, > > Chlorous acid and chlorine dioxide are both oxidizers. Chlorine dioxide has been studied in humans at low concentrations, but chlorous acid has not. > > At higher concentrations, chlorine dioxide damages blood cells. > > A 12 week study was done using chlorine dioxide in water at a concentration of 5 PPM. Please note that MMS forms chlorous acid that has chlorine dioxide in it, but ingesting chlorous acid has not been studied. > > The concentration used in the study was 5 PPM. The concentration of a 3 drop dose of MMS is about 190 PPM available chlorine dioxide. As you can see, a 3 drop dose has a much higher concentration than the 5 PPM that was used in the study. Since most people don't bother to do blood tests while taking MMS, there is little information on this. > > It is very possible that you are damaging your blood cells. > > At 5 PPM no adverse effects were observed over the 12 week period of the test. If you put your 3 drop dose of MMS in 5 liters of water and drank that, you would be very close to the 5 PPM concentration used in the study. > > I would suggest stopping MMS and taking a few days of antioxidants to clear all of the chlorite out of your body. Chlorite has a half life of a little over 40 hours, so it will take awhile to get it out of your body. Then have your blood tested again and see if that made a difference. > > Tom > > > --- In , " Malcolm " <malcolm.latour@> wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > I have been on the MMS 3 drops 8x a day for about a month to try to combat CLL chronic lymphocytic leukemia. > > > > CLL is tested by a white blood cell count. My results have grown dramatically worse (wbc 66 to 105) over the course of the MMS treatment. > > > > I am also on a strict healthy diet, largely vegetarian and Bill protocol supplements. > > > > I dont feel unwell now by any means, but clinical tests show my blood chemistry is rapidly worsening. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Malcolm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 Found post from rose years ago for st johns wort. However it is not the silver bullet in her post, used for mood elevation. Put st johns wort in search above messages, perhaps I missed it:) > > > > Yes, my symptoms are exactly the same. Each morning at about 6 am things get better; I've noted that for some time that the sensations have a timing. IF these are mites, they are quorum sensing and more active late afternoon to early morning. IF they are not mites, I don't know why the activity would be so much like the activity from mites. Would that just be a coincidence? > > > > At the beginning of this 2 years ago I could actually hear a humming on my body, but can't anymore. > > > > > > > > Question for Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would really appreciate hearing from you guys regarding whether or not your symptoms worsen in the evening. > > > > > > > > Mine get worse after sunset- but don't go into full gear until approximately 1am, and continue until sunrise (approximately 6am), and then taper off. > > > > > > > > Also, as crazy as this sounds, the biting and itching get worse after showering. This would support the people who recommend the use of oils to slow the bugs down. > > > > > > > > I've tried using oils on my body, but haven't found any relief from doing so. > > > > > > > > D. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Interesting, , That proves it is something internal. Love and light,s From: sidepull5150 <sidepull5150@...> bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: Re: Question for Group I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I have read many of us reporting this, myself included. My theory it is symptomatic of demodex mites. The mite not being the real cause of the entire infection infestation, but a systemic cause of immunity breakdown. Not recommending this product, just great info. My face mites cleared with liquid lye soap, added tea tree oil, blend. Be careful not to much tea tree oil, but strong enough to kill the parasite. Also home made flower of sulfur lotion, cream. http://www.wholespectrum.biz/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=WS & Ca\ tegory_Code=DEMODEXIN > > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. > > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. > > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. > > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. > > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Recipe for sulfur cream with this link, you could substitute the cocoa butter for anything of your choice. If really hurting money wise make liquid lye lotion, blend olive oil, very little, with flower sulfur, then blend into liquid lye. http://www.pennherb.com/flowers-of-sulphur-powder-16oz-405p16?id=i6uw8Mms > > > > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. > > > > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. > > > > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. > > > > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. > > > > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 LYE SOAP LOTION - HOW TO MAKE IT ( same process to make shampoo, dish soap and plant spray as well ) To make a lotion out of the soap it is really very easy. In fact it is a good way to recycle those small pieces left over from the shower. To make the lotion just take several small pieces and mix them with water. We recommend you use either a spring water or a distilled water. Something that has the impurities removed. Especially if your using the lotion for a skin allergy or something of the like. They put so many things in city water any more you don't know what you may be mixing into your lotion thus maybe even irritating your condition further. Also you may need to add a little heat when trying to get the soap and water mix if the pieces are really hard. Not much heat just a bit. Anyway just mix in enough water and stir it until you get the consistency you want for your lotion or dish soap or shampoo, whatever it is your making the mix for. Now be sure to put your mix into something relatively air tight so it won't dry right back out. If you need to take it with you in your purse or something just get a small squeeze bottle or a zip lock bag that your sure won't leak. We have also been told if you thin down the solution enough you can use it as a plant spray to keep unwanted bugs away from your plants. > > > > > > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. > > > > > > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. > > > > > > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. > > > > > > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. > > > > > > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Marie,Can you give me a rundown again of what you used to get rid of springtails on your property and with your animals? My former husband most likely has springtails; he is a dog loverand lives on a big property on the border of open space where there are lots of wild animals, even cougars spotted once in a while. Mainly deer and that sort of thing. I think he is going to have to treat any water sources outside, I think he has a pool that is not taken care of either. I've only been there once, but he is a single guy (no one can get along with him), living by himself. He told our son, , age 42, that he has scabies. I seriously doubt it... more likely he has springtails. I just want to get the information to him. We have remained friendly for many years.Thanks once again!!! From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 10:55:24 AMSubject: Re: Question for GroupI have read many of us reporting this, myself included. My theory it is symptomatic of demodex mites. The mite not being the real cause of the entire infection infestation, but a systemic cause of immunity breakdown. Not recommending this product, just great info. My face mites cleared with liquid lye soap, added tea tree oil, blend. Be careful not to much tea tree oil, but strong enough to kill the parasite. Also home made flower of sulfur lotion, cream.http://www.wholespectrum.biz/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=WS & Category_Code=DEMODEXIN--- In bird mites , "sidepull5150" <sidepull5150@...> wrote:>> I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face.> > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal.> > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope.> > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time.> > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source...> > >------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 ,I've heard many people on another site say the diet is a factor with the internal infestation. There are people who advocate specific diets (The King Diet), and I find the King diet very similar to a candida diet and I tried it for a while.Aandraya got rid of all symptoms of creeping and crawling, biting, etc., and she took antibiotics, but she also took many anti-fungals, strong ones. For a while she did the Paleo Diet, but not sure if she still does that. In that diet certain foods are cut out. With Marie, Healinghope, she got rid of all symptoms too and used MMS and other things... MMS is notorously good for killing off fungus. Probably not much better out there than MMS for killing certain pathogens, especially fungus.From: "sidepull5150" <sidepull5150@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 9:23:18 AMSubject: Re: Question for GroupI'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face.Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal.Wild reading just the info from Healinhope.For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time.It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source...------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 the article from bug spray is a great guideline. I have found treat whole yard as a nest. Granules every month while infested on soil, then bi monthly. His pool needs treated, I would use calcium hypochlorite, which is mms2 . Bathe with mms1, use lye soap hair and body. While infested add sulfur. I alternate with tea tree soap. Cedarcide is the best for pets. I think cedarcide is a bit overboard with the one spot theory? I continue to use one spot for prevention, including fleas, ticks, ect. Here is a copy paste from earlier post. I have found treating yourself important, and natural as possible. For wash I use fels naptha it will kill fungus and mites. For body and hair I use liquid lye soap, when infested i would add flower of sulfur to liquid lye, especially for hair. Hint use small amount of olive oil to mix the flower of sulfur then add and blend to liquid lye. I have even left the liquid lye on my hair for bed. Soak dry hair with liquid lye and let sit. Its just soap it will not hurt you. Store bought soap will hurt you! I would use peppermint, tea tree, or plain until healed. If mixing flower of sulfur use plain. After good scrub with lye, and rinse. Soak in MMS bathes. Treat drains too. I also take flower of sulfur internally and MSM, this is very different from MMS. Read and study, then go to war:) Also treat drains weekly with white distilled vinegar, or MMS solution. LYE SOAP LOTION - HOW TO MAKE IT ( same process to make shampoo, dish soap and plant spray as well ) To make a lotion out of the soap it is really very easy. In fact it is a good way to recycle those small pieces left over from the shower. To make the lotion just take several small pieces and mix them with water. We recommend you use either a spring water or a distilled water. Something that has the impurities removed. Especially if your using the lotion for a skin allergy or something of the like. They put so many things in city water any more you don't know what you may be mixing into your lotion thus maybe even irritating your condition further. Also you may need to add a little heat when trying to get the soap and water mix if the pieces are really hard. Not much heat just a bit. Anyway just mix in enough water and stir it until you get the consistency you want for your lotion or dish soap or shampoo, whatever it is your making the mix for. Now be sure to put your mix into something relatively air tight so it won't dry right back out. If you need to take it with you in your purse or something just get a small squeeze bottle or a zip lock bag that your sure won't leak. We have also been told if you thin down the solution enough you can use it as a plant spray to keep unwanted bugs away from your plants. To make laundry soap with fels naptha I use 1/3 cup shaved naptha boil with 6 cups water, add 6 cups cool water. Add borax. Stir for 24 hours can be used right away. Treat outside and anywhere not living attic basement ect with bifen, and granules on grass, video below how to treat springtails, also kills mites. Also bathing in MMS, and for me I take internally as well. Now just taking maintenance dose. Also orange guard worked well for me and is natural. This I used in my car alot, and around bed. http://orangeguard.com/ Also spray bedding with wintergreen alcohol and white vinegar before bed, and pillows. http://www.walmart.com/ip/-Brands-Wintergreen-70-Isopropyl-Alcohol-16-fl-oz\ \ /10423839 Lots of links and reading, good luck. I am cured. PS you may have lyme many who are attractive to this beast have lyme:( try and be tested, however the test are unreliable. Research the testing for lyme and you will see some labs are better than others. http://jimhumble.biz/ http://www.felsnaptha.com/store-locator http://www.felsnaptha.com/ http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/Fels_Naptha_Soap_p/d1001.htm http://debbieshandmadesoap.com/ http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3031802 http://www.bugspray.com/article/springtail.html http://www.pennherb.com/sulphur http://www.pennherb.com/search?mp=s & se=msm http://www.animedproducts.com/images/MSMPure2006.pdf http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SW851/ItemDetail > > > > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. > > > > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. > > > > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. > > > > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. > > > > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Here is article for scabies if it is that. http://www.rawspirit.org/scabies.html > > > > > > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. > > > > > > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. > > > > > > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. > > > > > > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. > > > > > > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Taking flower of sulfur either by capsule or with black strap mollases will make him less attractive over time too. > > > > > > > > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. > > > > > > > > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. > > > > > > > > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. > > > > > > > > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. > > > > > > > > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Interesting all these insects like the same environment. http://www.entomology.ucr.edu/ebeling/ebel10.html > > > > > > > > > > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. > > > > > > > > > > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. > > > > > > > > > > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. > > > > > > > > > > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. > > > > > > > > > > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 This is really good information, especially about springtails. Thanks Marie.From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:34:14 AMSubject: Re: Question for GroupInteresting all these insects like the same environment.http://www.entomology.ucr.edu/ebeling/ebel10.html--- In bird mites , "healinghope" <mfrreman@...> wrote:>> Taking flower of sulfur either by capsule or with black strap mollases will make him less attractive over time too.> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. > > > > > > > > > > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. > > > > > > > > > > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. > > > > > > > > > > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. > > > > > > > > > > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Thanks Marie. I've printed this out and thank you for a quick reply.From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 9:24:23 AMSubject: Re: Question for Group the article from bug spray is a great guideline. I have found treat whole yard as a nest. Granules every month while infested on soil, then bi monthly. His pool needs treated, I would use calcium hypochlorite, which is mms2 . Bathe with mms1, use lye soap hair and body. While infested add sulfur. I alternate with tea tree soap. Cedarcide is the best for pets. I think cedarcide is a bit overboard with the one spot theory? I continue to use one spot for prevention, including fleas, ticks, ect. Here is a copy paste from earlier post.I have found treating yourself important, and natural as possible. For wash Iuse fels naptha it will kill fungus and mites. For body and hair I use liquidlye soap, when infested i would add flower of sulfur to liquid lye, especiallyfor hair. Hint use small amount of olive oil to mix the flower of sulfur thenadd and blend to liquid lye. I have even left the liquid lye on my hair for bed.Soak dry hair with liquid lye and let sit. Its just soap it will not hurt you.Store bought soap will hurt you! I would use peppermint, tea tree, or plainuntil healed. If mixing flower of sulfur use plain. After good scrub with lye,and rinse. Soak in MMS bathes. Treat drains too.I also take flower of sulfur internally and MSM, this is very different fromMMS. Read and study, then go to war:)Also treat drains weekly with white distilled vinegar, or MMS solution.LYE SOAP LOTION - HOW TO MAKE IT ( same process to make shampoo, dish soap andplant spray as well )To make a lotion out of the soap it is really very easy. In fact it is a goodway to recycle those small pieces left over from the shower. To make the lotionjust take several small pieces and mix them with water. We recommend you useeither a spring water or a distilled water. Something that has the impuritiesremoved. Especially if your using the lotion for a skin allergy or something ofthe like. They put so many things in city water any more you don't know what youmay be mixing into your lotion thus maybe even irritating your conditionfurther. Also you may need to add a little heat when trying to get the soap andwater mix if the pieces are really hard. Not much heat just a bit. Anyway justmix in enough water and stir it until you get the consistency you want for yourlotion or dish soap or shampoo, whatever it is your making the mix for. Now besure to put your mix into something relatively air tight so it won't dry rightback out. If you need to take it with you in your purse or something just get asmall squeeze bottle or a zip lock bag that your sure won't leak. We have alsobeen told if you thin down the solution enough you can use it as a plant sprayto keep unwanted bugs away from your plants.To make laundry soap with fels naptha I use 1/3 cup shaved naptha boil with 6cups water, add 6 cups cool water. Add borax. Stir for 24 hours can be usedright away.Treat outside and anywhere not living attic basement ect with bifen, andgranules on grass, video below how to treat springtails, also kills mites.Also bathing in MMS, and for me I take internally as well. Now just takingmaintenance dose.Also orange guard worked well for me and is natural. This I used in my car alot,and around bed.http://orangeguard.com/Also spray bedding with wintergreen alcohol and white vinegar before bed, andpillows.http://www.walmart.com/ip/-Brands-Wintergreen-70-Isopropyl-Alcohol-16-fl-oz\/10423839Lots of links and reading, good luck. I am cured.PS you may have lyme many who are attractive to this beast have lyme:( try andbe tested, however the test are unreliable. Research the testing for lyme andyou will see some labs are better than others.http://jimhumble.biz/http://www.felsnaptha.com/store-locatorhttp://www.felsnaptha.com/http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/Fels_Naptha_Soap_p/d1001.htmhttp://debbieshandmadesoap.com/http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3031802http://www.bugspray.com/article/springtail.htmlhttp://www.pennherb.com/sulphurhttp://www.pennherb.com/search?mp=s & se=msmhttp://www.animedproducts.com/images/MSMPure2006.pdfhttp://www.swansonvitamins.com/SW851/ItemDetail--- In bird mites , Goldstein@... wrote:>> Marie, > > > Can you give me a rundown again of what you used to get rid of springtails on your property and with your animals? > > > My former husband most likely has springtails; he is a dog loverand lives on a big property on the border of open space where there are lots of wild animals, even cougars spotted once in a while. Mainly deer and that sort of thing. I think he is going to have to treat any water sources outside, I think he has a pool that is not taken care of either. I've only been there once, but he is a single guy (no one can get along with him), living by himself. He told our son, , age 42, that he has scabies. I seriously doubt it... more likely he has springtails. I just want to get the information to him. We have remained friendly for many years. > > > Thanks once again!!! > > > > > Re: Question for Group > > I have read many of us reporting this, myself included. My theory it is symptomatic of demodex mites. The mite not being the real cause of the entire infection infestation, but a systemic cause of immunity breakdown. Not recommending this product, just great info. My face mites cleared with liquid lye soap, added tea tree oil, blend. Be careful not to much tea tree oil, but strong enough to kill the parasite. Also home made flower of sulfur lotion, cream. > http://www.wholespectrum.biz/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=WS & Category_Code=DEMODEXIN > > > > > > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. > > > > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. > > > > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. > > > > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. > > > > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 That is such a positive set of videos. Again, such valuable information. That guy was so brave to do all the DMSO with MMS all over the body. Those tracks he was talking about might have been bartonella, but this appears to have cured it. Maybe it was dog scabies instead of bart, but not sure.From: "healinghope" <mfrreman@...>bird mites Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 9:27:54 AMSubject: Re: Question for GroupHere is article for scabies if it is that. http://www.rawspirit.org/scabies.html--- In bird mites , "healinghope" <mfrreman@...> wrote:>> the article from bug spray is a great guideline. I have found treat whole yard as a nest. Granules every month while infested on soil, then bi monthly. His pool needs treated, I would use calcium hypochlorite, which is mms2 . Bathe with mms1, use lye soap hair and body. While infested add sulfur. I alternate with tea tree soap. Cedarcide is the best for pets. I think cedarcide is a bit overboard with the one spot theory? I continue to use one spot for prevention, including fleas, ticks, ect. Here is a copy paste from earlier post.> > I have found treating yourself important, and natural as possible. For wash I> use fels naptha it will kill fungus and mites. For body and hair I use liquid> lye soap, when infested i would add flower of sulfur to liquid lye, especially> for hair. Hint use small amount of olive oil to mix the flower of sulfur then> add and blend to liquid lye. I have even left the liquid lye on my hair for bed.> Soak dry hair with liquid lye and let sit. Its just soap it will not hurt you.> Store bought soap will hurt you! I would use peppermint, tea tree, or plain> until healed. If mixing flower of sulfur use plain. After good scrub with lye,> and rinse. Soak in MMS bathes. Treat drains too.> > I also take flower of sulfur internally and MSM, this is very different from> MMS. Read and study, then go to war:)> > Also treat drains weekly with white distilled vinegar, or MMS solution.> > LYE SOAP LOTION - HOW TO MAKE IT ( same process to make shampoo, dish soap and> plant spray as well )> > To make a lotion out of the soap it is really very easy. In fact it is a good> way to recycle those small pieces left over from the shower. To make the lotion> just take several small pieces and mix them with water. We recommend you use> either a spring water or a distilled water. Something that has the impurities> removed. Especially if your using the lotion for a skin allergy or something of> the like. They put so many things in city water any more you don't know what you> may be mixing into your lotion thus maybe even irritating your condition> further. Also you may need to add a little heat when trying to get the soap and> water mix if the pieces are really hard. Not much heat just a bit. Anyway just> mix in enough water and stir it until you get the consistency you want for your> lotion or dish soap or shampoo, whatever it is your making the mix for. Now be> sure to put your mix into something relatively air tight so it won't dry right> back out. If you need to take it with you in your purse or something just get a> small squeeze bottle or a zip lock bag that your sure won't leak. We have also> been told if you thin down the solution enough you can use it as a plant spray> to keep unwanted bugs away from your plants.> > To make laundry soap with fels naptha I use 1/3 cup shaved naptha boil with 6> cups water, add 6 cups cool water. Add borax. Stir for 24 hours can be used> right away.> > Treat outside and anywhere not living attic basement ect with bifen, and> granules on grass, video below how to treat springtails, also kills mites.> > Also bathing in MMS, and for me I take internally as well. Now just taking> maintenance dose.> > Also orange guard worked well for me and is natural. This I used in my car alot,> and around bed.> http://orangeguard.com/> > Also spray bedding with wintergreen alcohol and white vinegar before bed, and> pillows.> http://www.walmart.com/ip/-Brands-Wintergreen-70-Isopropyl-Alcohol-16-fl-oz\> /10423839> > Lots of links and reading, good luck. I am cured.> > PS you may have lyme many who are attractive to this beast have lyme:( try and> be tested, however the test are unreliable. Research the testing for lyme and> you will see some labs are better than others.> > http://jimhumble.biz/> http://www.felsnaptha.com/store-locator> http://www.felsnaptha.com/> http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/Fels_Naptha_Soap_p/d1001.htm> http://debbieshandmadesoap.com/> http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3031802> http://www.bugspray.com/article/springtail.html> http://www.pennherb.com/sulphur> http://www.pennherb.com/search?mp=s & se=msm> http://www.animedproducts.com/images/MSMPure2006.pdf> http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SW851/ItemDetail> > > > > > > > > > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. > > > > > > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. > > > > > > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. > > > > > > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. > > > > > > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Hi , I have not been able to try the MMS yet, but I am hoping the snti fungals are what is keeping me safe so far. Terry > > > , > > > I've heard many people on another site say the diet is a factor with the internal infestation. There are people who advocate specific diets (The King Diet), and I find the King diet very similar to a candida diet and I tried it for a while. > > > Aandraya got rid of all symptoms of creeping and crawling, biting, etc., and she took antibiotics, but she also took many anti-fungals, strong ones. For a while she did the Paleo Diet, but not sure if she still does that. In that diet certain foods are cut out. > > > With Marie, Healinghope, she got rid of all symptoms too and used MMS and other things... MMS is notorously good for killing off fungus. Probably not much better out there than MMS for killing certain pathogens, especially fungus. > > > > > Re: Question for Group > > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. > > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. > > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. > > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. > > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I guess when we chase them out of their natural habitat, they find one that is similar. Some crazy things are happening in Africa which the destruction of the rain forests and people encroaching onto that land. Sometimes I think we have been pushing our luck just a little too much. But then again, I have just watched AVATAR for the last couple of days. LOL Terry > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm remembering that in the beginning it was active at night while in bed. I wonder'd if it had anything to do with the increased pressure from lying down as most of my early activity was on my face. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I notice it most a couple hours after showering or after a meal. > > > > > > > > > > > > Wild reading just the info from Healinhope. > > > > > > > > > > > > For the record I lived in the same apartment threw 2 bouts with these skin mites. Mites for 8 months, 2 rounds of antibiotics and no mites for 20 months, then they returned when I added bananas, carrot juice and gatorade to my diet about the same time. > > > > > > > > > > > > It has become my belief that the anitibiotics killed off all the bacteria in my intestines and they were able to heal the micropunctures in my intestinal membrane from the candidiasis. But not knowing, I never repopulated my intestinal tract with friendly bacteria and when I began with the bananas, carrot juice and gatorade the bad bacteria had a great food source... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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