Re: Outpatient OCD Treatment

[Guest guest]

Gail -

In December 2007, we pulled my son out of school and he attended ERP therapy 5

days a week, 90 minutes a day. It cost us a bloody fortune, but I must say it

did produce results. He was tutored during this time, and while that did set

him back from a school standpoint, we saw an improvement in his ocd. In

addition, he was on medication which also helped.

Hang in there.

Subject: Outpatient OCD Treatment

To:

Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 12:51 PM

My 16-year old son is so far refusing outpatient CBT treatment. He is

deathly afraid of doing the treatment and then returning home since he

believes he will have a severe panic attack and will have an intense

session of OCD behaviors (washing his hands, showering, rituals, etc.).

He is actually willing to do inpatient treatment since he thinks he

will be better taken care of and helped with his reaction to the

treatment. We thought we were making real progress and were going to be

able to get him treatment at Menninger, but our insurance (Blue Cross

Blue Shield) is refusing to pay until at least after he is admitted and

probalby not then since they only provide acute care coverage and

Menninger is subacute. To even get him in the door at Menninger means

we have to come up with a payment for 2 weeks of care at $1000/day.

What a racket this all is! So - does anyone have any good advice to

share about outpatient treatment. Success stories? Specific reactions

your children have had to the treatment?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Good to hear about good results. We are going the same route, soon,

hopefully, so this is encouraging. Glad your son is doing better!

Can I ask why the depakote was added for your son? Ours took Epival

for seven months, which I think is the same, different name, mood

stabilizer anyway. We thought it was helping, then realized it was

making things worse and stopped. Just wondering your experience and

the reason it was added. Medications have been a big challenge with

our son.

Barb

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> Subject: Outpatient OCD Treatment

> To:

> Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 12:51 PM

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> My 16-year old son is so far refusing outpatient CBT treatment. He

is

> deathly afraid of doing the treatment and then returning home since

he

> believes he will have a severe panic attack and will have an

intense

> session of OCD behaviors (washing his hands, showering, rituals,

etc.).

> He is actually willing to do inpatient treatment since he thinks he

> will be better taken care of and helped with his reaction to the

> treatment. We thought we were making real progress and were going

to be

> able to get him treatment at Menninger, but our insurance (Blue

Cross

> Blue Shield) is refusing to pay until at least after he is admitted

and

> probalby not then since they only provide acute care coverage and

> Menninger is subacute. To even get him in the door at Menninger

means

> we have to come up with a payment for 2 weeks of care at $1000/day.

> What a racket this all is! So - does anyone have any good advice to

> share about outpatient treatment. Success stories? Specific

reactions

> your children have had to the treatment?

>

[Guest guest]

Barb -

Originally our son was put on Zyprexa.  It was a good combination with the

Prozac, as it did stabilize his mood (he is on 70 mg of prozac).  But he gained

30 lbs. in one month from the zyprexa.  When he attended an in-patient facility

for 10 days in February, they changed his prescription to depakote and he has

been on it ever since.  The combination seems to reduce the rituals without him

bouncing off the walls.  And there was no weight gain.  So for now (as we all

know), this seems to be a good combination.

best,

angela    

Subject: Re: Outpatient OCD Treatment

To:

Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 12:38 PM

Hi ,

Good to hear about good results. We are going the same route, soon,

hopefully, so this is encouraging. Glad your son is doing better!

Can I ask why the depakote was added for your son? Ours took Epival

for seven months, which I think is the same, different name, mood

stabilizer anyway. We thought it was helping, then realized it was

making things worse and stopped. Just wondering your experience and

the reason it was added. Medications have been a big challenge with

our son.

Barb

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> From: Gail <gatittle@.. .>

> Subject: Outpatient OCD Treatment

> To: @ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 12:51 PM

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> My 16-year old son is so far refusing outpatient CBT treatment. He

is

> deathly afraid of doing the treatment and then returning home since

he

> believes he will have a severe panic attack and will have an

intense

> session of OCD behaviors (washing his hands, showering, rituals,

etc.).

> He is actually willing to do inpatient treatment since he thinks he

> will be better taken care of and helped with his reaction to the

> treatment. We thought we were making real progress and were going

to be

> able to get him treatment at Menninger, but our insurance (Blue

Cross

> Blue Shield) is refusing to pay until at least after he is admitted

and

> probalby not then since they only provide acute care coverage and

> Menninger is subacute. To even get him in the door at Menninger

means

> we have to come up with a payment for 2 weeks of care at $1000/day.

> What a racket this all is! So - does anyone have any good advice to

> share about outpatient treatment. Success stories? Specific

reactions

> your children have had to the treatment?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

That's great that the depakote is effective for your son. Interesting

that the combo works to reduce the rituals. I have heard the weight

gain is bad with zyprexa, my nephew took it too. My sister had a lot

of weight gain on depakote. It is so individual.

Glad your son is doing well, and hope it continues!

Barb

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> > From: Gail <gatittle@ .>

> > Subject: Outpatient OCD Treatment

> > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 12:51 PM

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> > My 16-year old son is so far refusing outpatient CBT treatment.

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> > deathly afraid of doing the treatment and then returning home

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> > believes he will have a severe panic attack and will have an

> intense

> > session of OCD behaviors (washing his hands, showering, rituals,

> etc.).

> > He is actually willing to do inpatient treatment since he thinks

he

> > will be better taken care of and helped with his reaction to the

> > treatment. We thought we were making real progress and were going

> to be

> > able to get him treatment at Menninger, but our insurance (Blue

> Cross

> > Blue Shield) is refusing to pay until at least after he is

admitted

> and

> > probalby not then since they only provide acute care coverage and

> > Menninger is subacute. To even get him in the door at Menninger

> means

> > we have to come up with a payment for 2 weeks of care at

$1000/day.

> > What a racket this all is! So - does anyone have any good advice

to

> > share about outpatient treatment. Success stories? Specific

> reactions

> > your children have had to the treatment?

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[Guest guest]

,

Do you mind telling us whee you are located and what clinic your son attends?  I

know many parents on this list would be very interested in hearing about an OCD

treatment center near them.

It is so good to hear that your son is doing so well.

Sinead

Outpatient OCD Treatment

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 12:51 PM

My 16-year old son is so far refusing outpatient CBT treatment. He is

deathly afraid of doing the treatment and then returning home since he

believes he will have a severe panic attack and will have an intense

session of OCD behaviors (washing his hands, showering, rituals, etc.).

He is actually willing to do inpatient treatment since he thinks he

will be better taken care of and helped with his reaction to the

treatment. We thought we were making real progress and were going to be

able to get him treatment at Menninger, but our insurance (Blue Cross

Blue Shield) is refusing to pay until at least after he is admitted and

probalby not then since they only provide acute care coverage and

Menninger is subacute. To even get him in the door at Menninger means

we have to come up with a payment for 2 weeks of care at $1000/day.

What a racket this all is! So - does anyone have any good advice to

share about outpatient treatment. Success stories? Specific reactions

your children have had to the treatment?

[Guest guest]

,

My DD did well on Prozac/Zyprexa too, but had terrible weight gain. I

hope the new combo is just as good with out that horrible side effect!

Dina

[Guest guest]

Hi Sinead -

We live on Long Island in New York. My son attends the Bio Behavorial Center in

Great Neck, NY (also located on Long Island). They have done wonders for him

and I will be forever grateful to them. Unfortunately, there is one catch - my

insurance company won't pay because the 2 therapists he is seeing are not

" licensed at the highest level in the state where services are provided " ,

whatever that means. One is a phd, the other is going for her phd. But our

insurance company never disclosed that we could only see certain therapists at

this Centre in order to be reimbursed. So we are in a bit of a quandary, and

may even bring an action against our insurance company (b/c it is quite

expensive).

But aside from that, I would recommend this Centre for anyone with OCD.

Best,

p.s. My son is also on medication - the combination helps.

From: Gail <gatittlecomcast (DOT) net>

Subject: Outpatient OCD Treatment

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 12:51 PM

My 16-year old son is so far refusing outpatient CBT treatment. He is

deathly afraid of doing the treatment and then returning home since he

believes he will have a severe panic attack and will have an intense

session of OCD behaviors (washing his hands, showering, rituals, etc.).

He is actually willing to do inpatient treatment since he thinks he

will be better taken care of and helped with his reaction to the

treatment. We thought we were making real progress and were going to be

able to get him treatment at Menninger, but our insurance (Blue Cross

Blue Shield) is refusing to pay until at least after he is admitted and

probalby not then since they only provide acute care coverage and

Menninger is subacute. To even get him in the door at Menninger means

we have to come up with a payment for 2 weeks of care at $1000/day.

What a racket this all is! So - does anyone have any good advice to

share about outpatient treatment. Success stories? Specific reactions

your children have had to the treatment?

[Guest guest]

thanks Dina. As always, we take it one day at a time.

Subject: Re: Re: Outpatient OCD Treatment

To:

Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 9:22 PM

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My DD did well on Prozac/Zyprexa too, but had terrible weight gain. I

hope the new combo is just as good with out that horrible side effect!

Dina

[Guest guest]

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My daughter sees a LICSW. Since 's Law in NY State, we are getting

reimbursed substantially for her treatment by our insurance co., The Empire

Plan. There is now parity for mental illness. Fight for your rights.

Treatment is very expensive.

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