Guest guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Okay. I'll try the meletonin that way. We, and his doc, have talked relentlessly about excercise. He said that doesn't work for him. By the way, his doc said he has never seen anxiety as bad as my son has it. They won't give him the typical meds for anxiety because he is a recovering addict. Thank you. From: Caudle To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:26 PM Subject: Re: I give up......  you might give the melatonin another try our doc says to take 1mg about 5pm and then to take a larger pill about an hour before bed the extra one early triggers the body like natural light does does he get exercise? some vigorous exercise mid afternoon might help also turn off all things that have little lights or cover the lights plays with your brain no TV or computer about an hour before bed helps also good luck no sleep sucks and make arrangements for someone to check on your son go on the trip have a good time and recharge your energy and your relationship with hubby both are important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 When my son was in re-hab, they had this saying that I heard over and over Take Life on Life's terms. Maybe it doesn't make sense to all of you but it's something I still say to my son when he whines about something stupid. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:36 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Sometimes we just have to not listen to the thoughts in our heads. I have two kids with AS. When they are going through a bad time, I don't just feel bad for them, I feel responsible as they inherited it from me. Getting depressed about it does no good for them or me. We just have to deal with life as it is and make the best of it. If we go blaming ourselves for things we can't change, we just make things worse. We can't always stop our thoughts, but we can choose to focus on doing what we can to make things work better. Life gets bad at times, but there are also good times as well. Perspective is important. If our kids are safe and happy, then things are much better than they could have been. A bad mother wouldn't worry as much as you do. And, you need the break too! If you worry about spending time with him, maybe after things have calmed down, you could hang out in his room for part of the time he is in there. Just being in the same room might feel good? I think it is just like our older children chilling out in their rooms, my 9 year old loves to be in his room completely under the covers. I let him spend the time he needs like that. Like said, if he is happy and safe then you are doing things right. Be easy on yourself. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Sender: autism-aspergers Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:09:54 -0700 To: autism-aspergers <autism-aspergers > ReplyTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Agreed! Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Riley wrote: We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. From: Muehleisen Family To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -------Original Message------- From: Lori Yurtin Date: 5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM To: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Poor Colton. The world is just too much for him. Sensory overload. That is why he is happy in his crib all alone. Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM, sara degeer wrote: Wow, Well Colton has been getting worse with the head banging. Just in 3 weeks he's had 2 black eyes and the giant knot on his forehead. I'm so worried about him getting seriously injured because I know he's not. I really worry about his face and his teeth. His teeth are so perfect. Colton doesn't chew his tongue but he sucks on it. I personally because of my anxiety I chew the inside of my mouth to the point that it bleeds. I hate when I get like that. Since this past weekend Colton has been absolutely awful. He has been in bed for almost 2 days because every time I let him out he is so violent and just walks around screaming and crying. But when he's in his crib all alone he's all smiles. But he's happy, I don't know what to do. From: "sandradaniels2001@..." To: autism-aspergers Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:44 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4976 - Release Date: 05/03/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 I just feel bad about leaving him in there but I go check on him a lot to see if he wants out but usually he doesn't. And now my sister is on my case because I used to yell and scream at her all the time about her leaving her kid in the crib all the time but she did it because she didn't want to watch her kids. And I don't know how to explain to her that this is different than me not wanting to watch him. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:03 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. From: Muehleisen Family To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -------Original Message------- From: Lori Yurtin Date: 5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM To: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Poor Colton. The world is just too much for him. Sensory overload. That is why he is happy in his crib all alone. Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM, sara degeer wrote: Wow, Well Colton has been getting worse with the head banging. Just in 3 weeks he's had 2 black eyes and the giant knot on his forehead. I'm so worried about him getting seriously injured because I know he's not. I really worry about his face and his teeth. His teeth are so perfect. Colton doesn't chew his tongue but he sucks on it. I personally because of my anxiety I chew the inside of my mouth to the point that it bleeds. I hate when I get like that. Since this past weekend Colton has been absolutely awful. He has been in bed for almost 2 days because every time I let him out he is so violent and just walks around screaming and crying. But when he's in his crib all alone he's all smiles. But he's happy, I don't know what to do. From: "sandradaniels2001@..." To: autism-aspergers Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:44 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... My daughter who is now 13 , does the hand rubbing , when she gets stressed , almost to the point of rubbing her hands until the skin started to peel on her hands , at one point she began to chew the side of her tongue also. I have also had to deal with head banging ,not from her but my 6 year old grandson is autistic also , and at one point he was so bad we were thinking of getting him a helmet to keep him from injuring himself. Thank goodness for our pediatrician he really helped my family . Things are getting better its all about good days and bad ones . We just roll with the punches and start over the next day Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint! ----- Reply message ----- From: "Ashton" To: <autism-aspergers > Subject: I give up...... Date: Sun, Apr 29, 2012 11:48 pm My 7 yo meows and walks on all fours. He does it in response to stress. He'll do it for a week or so then stop. He is also obsessed with all things cat. He brings home book after book on cats and talks about them incessently. When our female passed, had panic attacks off and on for a week. He brings her up alot and says she's with Jesus and our dog. Ashton sara degeer wrote: > > >Well now this meowing thing is getting out of control. He does it constantly. Even in public really loud and hes not saying the word meow he is more like making the noise and people just stare at us like wth is wrong with your kid? Not to mention its just gettin kinda annoying. And now im scared to teach him any other animal sounds. God forbid he learn how to "moo". Lol > > >------------------------------ >On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:45 AM EDT R. Tucker wrote: > >>No, ha ha, no meowing! Thank goodness! >> >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: sara degeer >>To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > >>Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:22 PM >>Subject: Re: I give up...... >> >> >> >>Does he meow too, cause my older daughter taught colton how to and he has been doing it ever since over and over and over >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: R. Tucker >>To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > >>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:06 PM >>Subject: Re: I give up...... >> >> >> >>OMG!!! My son licks the back of his hand!! We call him kitty cat! What makes someone do this?????? I gotta hear why!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: sara degeer >>To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > >>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:49 PM >>Subject: Re: I give up...... >> >> >> >> YOU WROTE: He would also rub the back of his hand against his lips >> >>That is what colton does. And sometimes will have his tongue sticking out so that he's licking the back of his hand. >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: Lori Yurtin >>To: autism-aspergers >>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:18 PM >>Subject: Re: I give up...... >> >> >> >>My son showed signs of autism almost from birth. He would stare at bright lights, trees moving and anything that spun. He never turned to our voices like his twin sister did from a very early age. I told his Ped that he had autism during a 7/8week well care visit! Yes, things got worse before they got better. Before intensive therapy (25-30 hours each week!) >> >>He never moved so much so that he developed a flat back of his head. We had to move him to his side several times in the middle of the night but, he just kept flopping over to his back. Almost had to wear a helmet. >> >>He couldn't sit up or do tummy time because he didn't have the strength to lift his head up...he would just scream bloody murder with his head smashed into the carpet. >> >>Anyway...my son would flip his hand over and suck on the outside of his pinky when he would get upset. He would also rub the back of his hand against his lips. Totally for sensory calming.... >> >>Lori >> >>Please BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism! >>https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism >> >>--- On Thu, 4/26/12, sara degeer wrote: >> >> >>>From: sara degeer >>>Subject: Re: I give up...... >>>To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > >>>Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012, 12:07 PM >>> >>> >>> >>>Wow, thats crazy I think if Colton ever told me He hated me, I think a piece of me would just die. I love all of my kids the same I would do anything in the world for anyone one of them but Colton just has a really special place in my heart. And his anger hurts me the most. I never really paid much attention to the nose rubbing thing I knew he did it a lot. Even when he just gets excited he rubs his nose. Even if he doesn't have snot. And everyone keeps asking me if he ways his hands in front of his face but he didn't use to but have been noticing that when he is holding his brush he waves that like on the side of his face. and now he has started taking the back of his hand and rubbing it back and forth really fast against his lips. but he usually only does that when he is mad and crying. I feel like everyday he starts something new. I used to think he was just mildly autistic if at all. but now i feel like it may be getting much worse. Because >> everything i have read and from what people tell me is usually kids dont start showing signs til about right now where as he has had them almost his whole life, and are just getting worse. >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Ashton S >>>To: autism-aspergers >>>Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 6:10 PM >>>Subject: Re: I give up...... >>> >>> >>> >>>Hi Sara, >>> >>>You ARE seeing what you think you are seeing in your son. I watched your vodeos of him and it's like looking at me and my youngest. His nerves are in overdrive and he's responding to that by melting down. If you notice, he rubs his nose a lot, not just because it's running from crying but because it is tingling. The stimming he does is his way of trying to calm down the sensations his little body is going through, neurologically and anxiety. >>> >>>I see him lashing out then he'll hug you. He is trying to tell you what is going on inside him and that he is sorry. I've lived this my entire life inside, it's like a war inside, and you cannot stop it, so you just want to scream. I'm 44 years old and I still have these same issues, and have learned to be by myself when I feel out of control. My son melted down like this, and at 7, still does, but not as often. Now it comes out in defiance against his brother and me. >>> >>>My son wears a compression suit from the time he wakes up, until bedtime. His school and occupational therapist said that they notice a big difference in him since he got his SPIO suit. I notice that he's able to calm himself more now than prior. I would love to have an adult sized SPIO suit myself, but I don't have the money or the insurance to get one. >>> >>>My youngest's meltdowns were violent toward me and my son, they still are, but now his is more able to talk instead of hit/punch/shove first. I think the difference was when he gained his ability speak better. He still struggles but he can tell me better what has upset him. Until that happened, it was so bad, we had to remove all knives from the kitchen because he would go get one and either throw it at me or my oldest, or threaten to stab us "I stab you." He hasn't done that in a long time. He mostly tells me he hates me when he's mad, and I remind him, "No, you don't hate me, you are mad at me." >>> >>>Please don't let this therapist stop you from pursuing what Colton needs most, intervention and help as early as possible. Keep seeking until someone will listen. I had friends tell me nothing was wrong with my sons or me, that, Ethan was just acting out for attention. I finally got him evaluated and now he is in IEP and Speech/Occu therapy. They are helping so much, especially with the behavioral and eating issues >>> >>>Ashton (Aspie Mom with 2 Autistic sons) >>> >>> >>>On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:48 AM, sara degeer wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>So for the last 7 weeks that Coltons therapist has been coming to see him he has only showed up 3 times. He is suppose to come once a week for an hour. When he cancels he texts me minutes away from the appt. time. Which I find ridiculous. So I called yesterday to have Early Steps try and get me a different Therapist. And to have Colton tested for ASD. And to get him into a Gifted school. They accept children that have anything from developmental delays to Severe Retardation. And you can start at 18 months old. Everything went good til today. When The old Therapist comes to my house and is like well can you tell me why I'm not on your case anymore? And I calmly explained to him that I need someone more reliable. He mentioned that I should not seek a dx and that I should wait a few years if I am told to do so. And then he goes on to talk about how everyone at the office is "talking" about "certain parents" that only want their child dx so they can >> receive government benefits. And said that they don't say names cause they aren't allowed to but didn't think any of it was about me. I in no way shape or form want anything from the government only the right kind of care for my child. I am extremely hurt by what he said. And Think that you know maybe there isn't anything wrong with him. Maybe he's just weird and quirky. I can't stop thinking about it. I don't know what to do. I am really starting to question if there is anything wrong at all. :-/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>P.S. This is my Son Colton http://www.youtube.com/user/bradleysmommy1?feature=mhee >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Well now this meowing thing is getting out of control. He does it constantly. Even in public really loud and hes not saying the word meow he is more like making the noise and people just stare at us like wth is wrong with your kid? Not to mention its just gettin kinda annoying. And now im scared to teach him any other animal sounds. God forbid he learn how to "moo". Lol ------------------------------ On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 9:45 AM EDT R. Tucker wrote: >No, ha ha, no meowing! Thank goodness! > > > > > > >________________________________ > From: sara degeer >To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > >Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:22 PM >Subject: Re: I give up...... > > > >Does he meow too, cause my older daughter taught colton how to and he has been doing it ever since over and over and over > > >________________________________ > From: R. Tucker < No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4976 - Release Date: 05/03/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Okay. I really appreciate all the help and advice for everyone, It is really great! To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:15 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... A bad mother wouldn't worry as much as you do. And, you need the break too! If you worry about spending time with him, maybe after things have calmed down, you could hang out in his room for part of the time he is in there. Just being in the same room might feel good? I think it is just like our older children chilling out in their rooms, my 9 year old loves to be in his room completely under the covers. I let him spend the time he needs like that. Like said, if he is happy and safe then you are doing things right. Be easy on yourself.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Sender: autism-aspergers Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:09:54 -0700To: autism-aspergers <autism-aspergers >ReplyTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. From: Muehleisen Family To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -------Original Message------- From: Lori Yurtin Date: 5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM To: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Poor Colton. The world is just too much for him. Sensory overload. That is why he is happy in his crib all alone. Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM, sara degeer wrote: Wow, Well Colton has been getting worse with the head banging. Just in 3 weeks he's had 2 black eyes and the giant knot on his forehead. I'm so worried about him getting seriously injured because I know he's not. I really worry about his face and his teeth. His teeth are so perfect. Colton doesn't chew his tongue but he sucks on it. I personally because of my anxiety I chew the inside of my mouth to the point that it bleeds. I hate when I get like that. Since this past weekend Colton has been absolutely awful. He has been in bed for almost 2 days because every time I let him out he is so violent and just walks around screaming and crying. But when he's in his crib all alone he's all smiles. But he's happy, I don't know what to do. From: "sandradaniels2001@..." To: autism-aspergers Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:44 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Yeah, I can't argue there. Your right! To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:36 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Sometimes we just have to not listen to the thoughts in our heads. I have two kids with AS. When they are going through a bad time, I don't just feel bad for them, I feel responsible as they inherited it from me. Getting depressed about it does no good for them or me. We just have to deal with life as it is and make the best of it. If we go blaming ourselves for things we can't change, we just make things worse. We can't always stop our thoughts, but we can choose to focus on doing what we can to make things work better. Life gets bad at times, but there are also good times as well. Perspective is important. If our kids are safe and happy, then things are much better than they could have been. A bad mother wouldn't worry as much as you do. And, you need the break too! If you worry about spending time with him, maybe after things have calmed down, you could hang out in his room for part of the time he is in there. Just being in the same room might feel good? I think it is just like our older children chilling out in their rooms, my 9 year old loves to be in his room completely under the covers. I let him spend the time he needs like that. Like said, if he is happy and safe then you are doing things right. Be easy on yourself. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Sender: autism-aspergers Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:09:54 -0700 To: autism-aspergers <autism-aspergers > ReplyTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Agreed! Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Riley wrote: We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. From: Muehleisen Family To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -------Original Message------- From: Lori Yurtin Date: 5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM To: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Poor Colton. The world is just too much for him. Sensory overload. That is why he is happy in his crib all alone. Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM, sara degeer wrote: Wow, Well Colton has been getting worse with the head banging. Just in 3 weeks he's had 2 black eyes and the giant knot on his forehead. I'm so worried about him getting seriously injured because I know he's not. I really worry about his face and his teeth. His teeth are so perfect. Colton doesn't chew his tongue but he sucks on it. I personally because of my anxiety I chew the inside of my mouth to the point that it bleeds. I hate when I get like that. Since this past weekend Colton has been absolutely awful. He has been in bed for almost 2 days because every time I let him out he is so violent and just walks around screaming and crying. But when he's in his crib all alone he's all smiles. But he's happy, I don't know what to do. From: "sandradaniels2001@..." To: autism-aspergers Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:44 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4976 - Release Date: 05/03/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Yeah I think that is what Im gonna do, just listen to what he needs. Because I think that is really whats gonna help him in the long run. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:51 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs.I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe!If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids.My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into "pushing"Him- giving in against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feelBetter- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family!Sent from my iPhone Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. From: Muehleisen Family To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -------Original Message------- From: Lori Yurtin Date: 5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM To: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Poor Colton. The world is just too much for him. Sensory overload. That is why he is happy in his crib all alone. Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM, sara degeer wrote: Wow, Well Colton has been getting worse with the head banging. Just in 3 weeks he's had 2 black eyes and the giant knot on his forehead. I'm so worried about him getting seriously injured because I know he's not. I really worry about his face and his teeth. His teeth are so perfect. Colton doesn't chew his tongue but he sucks on it. I personally because of my anxiety I chew the inside of my mouth to the point that it bleeds. I hate when I get like that. Since this past weekend Colton has been absolutely awful. He has been in bed for almost 2 days because every time I let him out he is so violent and just walks around screaming and crying. But when he's in his crib all alone he's all smiles. But he's happy, I don't know what to do. From: "sandradaniels2001@..." < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 That is true. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:54 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Agreed! What calms a child and a parent- do it! We are all good parents, that is why this is so hard. If we were bad parents we wouldn't care.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Sender: autism-aspergers Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 19:51:24 -0400To: autism-aspergers <autism-aspergers >ReplyTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs.I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe!If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids.My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into "pushing"Him- giving in against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feelBetter- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family!Sent from my iPhone Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. From: Muehleisen Family To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -------Original Message------- From: Lori Yurtin Date: 5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM To: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Poor Colton. The world is just too much for him. Sensory overload. That is why he is happy in his crib all alone. Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM, sara degeer wrote: Wow, Well Colton has been getting worse with the head banging. Just in 3 weeks he's had 2 black eyes and the giant knot on his forehead. I'm so worried about him getting seriously injured because I know he's not. I really worry about his face and his teeth. His teeth are so perfect. Colton doesn't chew his tongue but he sucks on it. I personally because of my anxiety I chew the inside of my mouth to the point that it bleeds. I hate when I get like that. Since this past weekend Colton has been absolutely awful. He has been in bed for almost 2 days because every time I let him out he is so violent and just walks around screaming and crying. But when he's in his crib all alone he's all smiles. But he's happy, I don't know what to do. From: "sandradaniels2001@..." < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Have you thought of transitioning him to toddler bed, same mattress and bedding. Make sure it not too busy either keep it simple as the colored on made like cars etc may be too busy. With the toddler bed they can safely get themselves out. With things you know that you will have to change it best to start the transitioning earlier than later. He going to have to transition out of crib because he will get too big for it. Same with a bottle because I have seen 7 and old kids still needing a bottle. It will not be such a big deal to the child if you start early before you have too. This way it will be on their terms. It like at seven or eight his big old self will bust the crib and then what if it his choice over time it will not be an issues.Something else I have learned is you can not lock your child in their rooms. If you take a regular bedroom door locking set and turn it around, child cannot open it from their room but anyone can open it for the hall. You can buy alarms at home improvement stores which go off when opened. Mount the on the outside of the windows. Child has to open the window to remove them and by opening it the alarm goes off. JudyTo: autism-aspergers From: bradleysmommy1@...Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 07:44:42 -0700Subject: Re: I give up...... Yeah I think that is what Im gonna do, just listen to what he needs. Because I think that is really whats gonna help him in the long run. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:51 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs.I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe!If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids.My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into "pushing"Him-giving in against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feelBetter- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family!Sent from my iPhone Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can itpossibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long timebut like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go inthere to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So Ialways just walk out and leave him in there to playfor about an hour and come back to see if he's readyto come out and some times he is and sometimes heisn't. And periodically during the day if he is reallystimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns Iwill put him in there and he immediately is happy. andI'll leave him in there for about an hour and comecheck on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bedhas absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which isblue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, buthe seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don'tlike putting him in there cause then I feel like a badmom. But that is where he is happy. From:Muehleisen Family To:autism-aspergers Sent:Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AMSubject:Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that hecould play quietly in. It wouldgive him the enclosed feeling heneeds and he could come and go ashe wanted to. I'd get one that'snot too big and not colorful(maybe a dark blue, not red). Putit in a room that you want himin. Little or no noise would bebest at first. If you get one thatyou can connect to others via atube, you would be able to add toit when he gets older. The problemmight be the super bight colors.Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find alarge box. See if he will pay inthat. That would be more sociallyacceptable that keeping him in thebed. I completely understand andagree with you. He needs to beable to live his life outside ofhis crib but if he is happy in hisbed then let him be in hiscrib...but it needs to be limitedso he can grow. However, if youtell the drs that you keep him inhis bed for extended periods, CPSmight get involved. None of thosepeople understand so it could bebad. Onlytwo defining forces have everoffered to die for you;JesusChrist and the AmericanSoldier.Onedied for your soul; the otherfor your freedom.-------OriginalMessage------- From: LoriYurtinDate:5/1/2012 12:25:39 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject:Re: I giveup...... Poor Colton. The world isjust too much for him. Sensoryoverload. That is why he ishappy in his crib all alone.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM,sara degeer wrote: Wow, Well Colton hasbeen getting worse withthe head banging. 3 weeks he's had 2black eyes and the giantknot on his forehead.I'm so worried about himgetting seriouslyinjured because I knowhe's not. I really worryabout his face and histeeth. His teeth are soperfect. Colton doesn'tchew his tongue but hesucks on it. Ipersonally because of myanxiety I chew theinside of my mouth tothe point that itbleeds. I hate when Iget like that. Sincethis past weekend Coltonhas been absolutelyawful. He has been inbed for almost 2 daysbecause every time I lethim out he is so violentand just walks aroundscreaming and crying.But when he's in hiscrib all alone he's allsmiles. But he's happy,I don't know what to do.From:"sandradaniels2001@..."< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 You said "you can not lock".... Was that a typo?We locked my son in with one of those slider type locks from hallway. Used the same for pantry so he would go in and make a mess.We were worried he would wake in middle of night and roam around. We are heavy sleepers!We have house alarm so no worries there but just didn't trust he would stay safely in his room.Turns out he was not a roamer... But kept it on for a long time! :)Sent from my iPhone Have you thought of transitioning him to toddler bed, same mattress and bedding. Make sure it not too busy either keep it simple as the colored on made like cars etc may be too busy. With the toddler bed they can safely get themselves out. With things you know that you will have to change it best to start the transitioning earlier than later. He going to have to transition out of crib because he will get too big for it. Same with a bottle because I have seen 7 and old kids still needing a bottle. It will not be such a big deal to the child if you start early before you have too. This way it will be on their terms. It like at seven or eight his big old self will bust the crib and then what if it his choice over time it will not be an issues.Something else I have learned is you can not lock your child in their rooms. If you take a regular bedroom door locking set and turn it around, child cannot open it from their room but anyone can open it for the hall. You can buy alarms at home improvement stores which go off when opened. Mount the on the outside of the windows. Child has to open the window to remove them and by opening it the alarm goes off. JudyTo: autism-aspergers From: bradleysmommy1@...Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 07:44:42 -0700Subject: Re: I give up...... Yeah I think that is what Im gonna do, just listen to what he needs. Because I think that is really whats gonna help him in the long run. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:51 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs.I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe!If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids.My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into "pushing"Him- giving in against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feelBetter- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family!Sent from my iPhone Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. From: Muehleisen Family To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -------Original Message------- From: Lori Yurtin Date: 5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM To: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Poor Colton. The world is just too much for him. Sensory overload. That is why he is happy in his crib all alone. Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM, sara degeer wrote: Wow, Well Colton has been getting worse with the head banging. Just in 3 weeks he's had 2 black eyes and the giant knot on his forehead. I'm so worried about him getting seriously injured because I know he's not. I really worry about his face and his teeth. His teeth are so perfect. Colton doesn't chew his tongue but he sucks on it. I personally because of my anxiety I chew the inside of my mouth to the point that it bleeds. I hate when I get like that. Since this past weekend Colton has been absolutely awful. He has been in bed for almost 2 days because every time I let him out he is so violent and just walks around screaming and crying. But when he's in his crib all alone he's all smiles. But he's happy, I don't know what to do. From: "sandradaniels2001@..." < 3I4H<ãQòØýqÓ0´“DƒÎ5- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Please don't think I'm saying not to put him in there. Quite the contrary. If he is happy in his crib then that is where he should be. Especially if he screams when you take him out. I was only suggesting the tent so that he might be able to be comfortable when he is outside his crib too. DD couldn't handle large open spaces when she was very little. She would sit under the edge of my waterbed and look at boos and play. She also liked siting under the coffee table, chairs, tables, computer desk...one time we even caught her inside the end tables (they were cabinets). We got a Playhut tent and she loved it. It blocked out the whole world for her. She could even tolerate sound better in her tent. When I would clean up or whatever, I'd flip the door up over the top of the tent so it wasn't in the way. She would cry until I pulled it back down. I do feel that we need to encourage our kids to venture out of their safe places but that they should have their safe places to return to. Unfortunately, I have heard of CPS cases where the child was left in the crib all day. Yes it was diapered and fed but still neglected. I'm not implying that you are doing that because obviously if you were neglecting your kid, you wouldn't be on this board trying to find out ways of helping him. That is a no brainer. Unfortunately, our government and some state agencies don't have brains either so I would just make sure you qualify your statements to any doctors that he is always safe, supervised and care for and yada yada yada. Someone mentioned the sounds thing. My daughter and I both get agitated when we hears florescent lights that the ballasts are loose or faulty. If someone has a TV on but the cable/satellite is off...I can hear that and it is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. I'd say try to see if you can isolate any sounds or smells that he might be experiencing. See if you can see patterns as to where he stims the most, times of day, activities and so on. It is hard to figure it out at this age but hopefully when he gets older he can tell you what is wrong. Follow your gut instinct. You know what is best for him.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -- Re: I give up......> >> >Does he meow too, cause my older daughter taught colton how to and he has been doing it ever since over and over and over>>>________________________________> From: R. Tucker < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Give multiple dosages of melatonin 1-2 hrs apart (you can't really overdose on it...they have studied people taking 80+mg nightly for years with no problems). Quick release works better than sustained release. My daughter (15) and son (8) takes 5mg of melatonin and clonidine. If that doesn't work, I can give them another 5mg of melatonin and/or another clonidine. Can he tolerate benadryl? It is safe and would help him sleep. I wouldn't use this long term because it will train his body to only sleep when you use it. Also, make sure the TV and computers get turned off. The backlight of those items decrease melatonin production in our bodies. White noise (ceiling fan, white noise machine, quiet soft music) might help. Relaxation CD/audio file can help too. A specific bedtime routine (yes even for adults). Warm shower, soak in a hot tub or warm bath. Add Epsom salts, they are very good for ASD/AS people with sensory issues. Eat more foods with tryptophan (not just turkey). Drink warm milk. It actually does work. Herbal tea does too. Reduce or illuminate all caffeine/tobacco/alcohol throughout the day. The bed is for sleep and sex only. No reading in bed, watching TV... It trains your body to stay awake in bed. Make sure you are not to hot/to cold, uncomfortable. Have a good mattress, pillow and comfy bedding. Relaxation through guided imagery works good. Google it. Here is a website with some other ideas. http://www.well.com/~mick/insomnia/ There are tons of other hints and ideas on the web. Google help with insomnia or natural insomnia relief and so on. I suffer from insomnia. I've had docs tell me all the stuff above. I usually do not have to take meds to go to sleep. When my kids get older, I'll teach them some tricks so that maybe they can eventually go to sleep without meds. They are both on ADHD meds so I doubt that will happen any time soon. Good luck! Have fun on your trip. Even moms need a break every now and again. Does he have a friend that could sleep over? What about in-home respite care?   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -- Re: I give up......> >> >Does he meow too, cause my older daughter taught colton how to and he has been doing it ever since over and over and over>>>________________________________> From: R. Tucker < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Well Colton is only 20 months old. And is still very much like a baby I could not get him a toddler bed or he would never go to sleep. It takes him a couple hours of rocking before he actually falls asleep. And he shares a room with his older brother so there is a lot for him to get into.Any time he is laid down in a regular bed he refuses to go to sleep. Colton is no longer on a bottle and I don't lock him in his room and never would. The door is open but he is in his crib and check on him to see if he wants out and if he does GREAT, but if not then thats ok too. I would never turn the door knob around so that he couldn't open it. He doesn't know how to open doors anyways! To: autism-aspergers Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 9:34 PM Subject: RE: I give up...... Have you thought of transitioning him to toddler bed, same mattress and bedding. Make sure it not too busy either keep it simple as the colored on made like cars etc may be too busy. With the toddler bed they can safely get themselves out. With things you know that you will have to change it best to start the transitioning earlier than later. He going to have to transition out of crib because he will get too big for it. Same with a bottle because I have seen 7 and old kids still needing a bottle. It will not be such a big deal to the child if you start early before you have too. This way it will be on their terms. It like at seven or eight his big old self will bust the crib and then what if it his choice over time it will not be an issues.Something else I have learned is you can not lock your child in their rooms. If you take a regular bedroom door locking set and turn it around, child cannot open it from their room but anyone can open it for the hall. You can buy alarms at home improvement stores which go off when opened. Mount the on the outside of the windows. Child has to open the window to remove them and by opening it the alarm goes off. JudyTo: autism-aspergers From: bradleysmommy1@...Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 07:44:42 -0700Subject: Re: I give up...... Yeah I think that is what Im gonna do, just listen to what he needs. Because I think that is really whats gonna help him in the long run. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:51 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs.I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe!If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids.My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into "pushing"Him- giving in against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feelBetter- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family!Sent from my iPhone Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. From: Muehleisen Family To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -------Original Message------- From: Lori Yurtin Date: 5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM To: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Poor Colton. The world is just too much for him. Sensory overload. That is why he is happy in his crib all alone. Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM, sara degeer wrote: Wow, Well Colton has been getting worse with the head banging. Just in 3 weeks he's had 2 black eyes and the giant knot on his forehead. I'm so worried about him getting seriously injured because I know he's not. I really worry about his face and his teeth. His teeth are so perfect. Colton doesn't chew his tongue but he sucks on it. I personally because of my anxiety I chew the inside of my mouth to the point that it bleeds. I hate when I get like that. Since this past weekend Colton has been absolutely awful. He has been in bed for almost 2 days because every time I let him out he is so violent and just walks around screaming and crying. But when he's in his crib all alone he's all smiles. But he's happy, I don't know what to do. From: "sandradaniels2001@..." < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Yeah, and colton wakes up in the middle of the night every night for several hours. If he had a toddler bed he'd be all through the house all night. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 9:58 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... You said "you can not lock".... Was that a typo?We locked my son in with one of those slider type locks from hallway. Used the same for pantry so he would go in and make a mess.We were worried he would wake in middle of night and roam around. We are heavy sleepers!We have house alarm so no worries there but just didn't trust he would stay safely in his room.Turns out he was not a roamer... But kept it on for a long time! :)Sent from my iPhone Have you thought of transitioning him to toddler bed, same mattress and bedding. Make sure it not too busy either keep it simple as the colored on made like cars etc may be too busy. With the toddler bed they can safely get themselves out. With things you know that you will have to change it best to start the transitioning earlier than later. He going to have to transition out of crib because he will get too big for it. Same with a bottle because I have seen 7 and old kids still needing a bottle. It will not be such a big deal to the child if you start early before you have too. This way it will be on their terms. It like at seven or eight his big old self will bust the crib and then what if it his choice over time it will not be an issues.Something else I have learned is you can not lock your child in their rooms. If you take a regular bedroom door locking set and turn it around, child cannot open it from their room but anyone can open it for the hall. You can buy alarms at home improvement stores which go off when opened. Mount the on the outside of the windows. Child has to open the window to remove them and by opening it the alarm goes off. JudyTo: autism-aspergers From: bradleysmommy1@...Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 07:44:42 -0700Subject: Re: I give up...... Yeah I think that is what Im gonna do, just listen to what he needs. Because I think that is really whats gonna help him in the long run. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:51 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs.I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe!If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids.My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into "pushing"Him- giving in against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feelBetter- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family!Sent from my iPhone Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. From: Muehleisen Family To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -------Original Message------- From: Lori Yurtin Date: 5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM To: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Poor Colton. The world is just too much for him. Sensory overload. That is why he is happy in his crib all alone. Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM, sara degeer wrote: Wow, Well Colton has been getting worse with the head banging. Just in 3 weeks he's had 2 black eyes and the giant knot on his forehead. I'm so worried about him getting seriously injured because I know he's not. I really worry about his face and his teeth. His teeth are so perfect. Colton doesn't chew his tongue but he sucks on it. I personally because of my anxiety I chew the inside of my mouth to the point that it bleeds. I hate when I get like that. Since this past weekend Colton has been absolutely awful. He has been in bed for almost 2 days because every time I let him out he is so violent and just walks around screaming and crying. But when he's in his crib all alone he's all smiles. But he's happy, I don't know what to do. From: "sandradaniels2001@..." < 3I4H<ãQòØýqÓ0´“DƒÎ5- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 No, the tent is a great idea. I am trying to think of a place where I could get one that would fit in my house tho. They used to have little play ones at wal-mart. I'm going there today so i'll check. I have noticed that Colton loves to be under his blanket a lot. Yeah I even called cps on my sister for keeping her kids in their cribs. just because she didn't want to deal with them though. Yeah, the only time I can even get on here is if someone is here to help me or if he is in bed. I have tried the sounds thing Really the only sound we have during the day are the T.V. But he loves to sit in his crib and just rock and rock and rock. He literally rocks the screws right out of the crib. We have to tighten them every time we put him in bed. But there is no noise that I can hear in that room at all. Maybe he can hear something that I don't. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 3:13 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... Please don't think I'm saying not to put him in there. Quite the contrary. If he is happy in his crib then that is where he should be. Especially if he screams when you take him out. I was only suggesting the tent so that he might be able to be comfortable when he is outside his crib too. DD couldn't handle large open spaces when she was very little. She would sit under the edge of my waterbed and look at boos and play. She also liked siting under the coffee table, chairs, tables, computer desk...one time we even caught her inside the end tables (they were cabinets). We got a Playhut tent and she loved it. It blocked out the whole world for her. She could even tolerate sound better in her tent. When I would clean up or whatever, I'd flip the door up over the top of the tent so it wasn't in the way. She would cry until I pulled it back down. I do feel that we need to encourage our kids to venture out of their safe places but that they should have their safe places to return to. Unfortunately, I have heard of CPS cases where the child was left in the crib all day. Yes it was diapered and fed but still neglected. I'm not implying that you are doing that because obviously if you were neglecting your kid, you wouldn't be on this board trying to find out ways of helping him. That is a no brainer. Unfortunately, our government and some state agencies don't have brains either so I would just make sure you qualify your statements to any doctors that he is always safe, supervised and care for and yada yada yada. Someone mentioned the sounds thing. My daughter and I both get agitated when we hears florescent lights that the ballasts are loose or faulty. If someone has a TV on but the cable/satellite is off...I can hear that and it is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. I'd say try to see if you can isolate any sounds or smells that he might be experiencing. See if you can see patterns as to where he stims the most, times of day, activities and so on. It is hard to figure it out at this age but hopefully when he gets older he can tell you what is wrong. Follow your gut instinct. You know what is best for him.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -- Re: I give up......> >> >Does he meow too, cause my older daughter taught colton how to and he has been doing it ever since over and over and over>>>________________________________> From: R. Tucker < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I bought a blue one for $19.99 at Wal-Mart it is a one man tent. It worked wonders. I had blankets and pillows in hers. I took it down because she did break the poles rater quickly. I then bought her one of those "doggie" tents for 15 bucks in sporting goods at Wal-Mart. What's nice about those is they twist up for storage and they seem more difficult to break. She now takes it out and puts pillows and books in there. I hope he responds well to a tent. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 8:37 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... No, the tent is a great idea. I am trying to think of a place where I could get one that would fit in my house tho. They used to have little play ones at wal-mart. I'm going there today so i'll check. I have noticed that Colton loves to be under his blanket a lot. Yeah I even called cps on my sister for keeping her kids in their cribs. just because she didn't want to deal with them though. Yeah, the only time I can even get on here is if someone is here to help me or if he is in bed. I have tried the sounds thing Really the only sound we have during the day are the T.V. But he loves to sit in his crib and just rock and rock and rock. He literally rocks the screws right out of the crib. We have to tighten them every time we put him in bed. But there is no noise that I can hear in that room at all. Maybe he can hear something that I don't. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 3:13 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... Please don't think I'm saying not to put him in there. Quite the contrary. If he is happy in his crib then that is where he should be. Especially if he screams when you take him out. I was only suggesting the tent so that he might be able to be comfortable when he is outside his crib too. DD couldn't handle large open spaces when she was very little. She would sit under the edge of my waterbed and look at boos and play. She also liked siting under the coffee table, chairs, tables, computer desk...one time we even caught her inside the end tables (they were cabinets). We got a Playhut tent and she loved it. It blocked out the whole world for her. She could even tolerate sound better in her tent. When I would clean up or whatever, I'd flip the door up over the top of the tent so it wasn't in the way. She would cry until I pulled it back down. I do feel that we need to encourage our kids to venture out of their safe places but that they should have their safe places to return to. Unfortunately, I have heard of CPS cases where the child was left in the crib all day. Yes it was diapered and fed but still neglected. I'm not implying that you are doing that because obviously if you were neglecting your kid, you wouldn't be on this board trying to find out ways of helping him. That is a no brainer. Unfortunately, our government and some state agencies don't have brains either so I would just make sure you qualify your statements to any doctors that he is always safe, supervised and care for and yada yada yada. Someone mentioned the sounds thing. My daughter and I both get agitated when we hears florescent lights that the ballasts are loose or faulty. If someone has a TV on but the cable/satellite is off...I can hear that and it is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. I'd say try to see if you can isolate any sounds or smells that he might be experiencing. See if you can see patterns as to where he stims the most, times of day, activities and so on. It is hard to figure it out at this age but hopefully when he gets older he can tell you what is wrong. Follow your gut instinct. You know what is best for him.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -- Re: I give up......> >> >Does he meow too, cause my older daughter taught colton how to and he has been doing it ever since over and over and over>>>________________________________> From: R. Tucker < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Ok- your child is 20 months old? Sounds typical to me that he likes his crib- ive known people whose kids like theirs 3-4 years old- longer if there are sensory issues or delays- relax- it's ok.My kids were all the opposite- their cribs made themNuts and they could sleep without me! So I bought a co sleeper and attached it to the bed- a happy safe child makes for a peaceful homeSent from my iPhone Well Colton is only 20 months old. And is still very much like a baby I could not get him a toddler bed or he would never go to sleep. It takes him a couple hours of rocking before he actually falls asleep. And he shares a room with his older brother so there is a lot for him to get into.Any time he is laid down in a regular bed he refuses to go to sleep. Colton is no longer on a bottle and I don't lock him in his room and never would. The door is open but he is in his crib and check on him to see if he wants out and if he does GREAT, but if not then thats ok too. I would never turn the door knob around so that he couldn't open it. He doesn't know how to open doors anyways! To: autism-aspergers Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 9:34 PM Subject: RE: I give up...... Have you thought of transitioning him to toddler bed, same mattress and bedding. Make sure it not too busy either keep it simple as the colored on made like cars etc may be too busy. With the toddler bed they can safely get themselves out. With things you know that you will have to change it best to start the transitioning earlier than later. He going to have to transition out of crib because he will get too big for it. Same with a bottle because I have seen 7 and old kids still needing a bottle. It will not be such a big deal to the child if you start early before you have too. This way it will be on their terms. It like at seven or eight his big old self will bust the crib and then what if it his choice over time it will not be an issues.Something else I have learned is you can not lock your child in their rooms. If you take a regular bedroom door locking set and turn it around, child cannot open it from their room but anyone can open it for the hall. You can buy alarms at home improvement stores which go off when opened. Mount the on the outside of the windows. Child has to open the window to remove them and by opening it the alarm goes off. JudyTo: autism-aspergers From: bradleysmommy1@...Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 07:44:42 -0700Subject: Re: I give up...... Yeah I think that is what Im gonna do, just listen to what he needs. Because I think that is really whats gonna help him in the long run. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:51 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs.I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe!If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids.My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into "pushing"Him- giving in against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feelBetter- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family!Sent from my iPhone Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. From: Muehleisen Family To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -------Original Message------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 My oldest w/ AS was 3 and some change before getting out of the crib....liked it in there. My youngest was 11 months when he tried to fly out of the crib and went to a toddler bed that same night! To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Ok- your child is 20 months old? Sounds typical to me that he likes his crib- ive known people whose kids like theirs 3-4 years old- longer if there are sensory issues or delays- relax- it's ok.My kids were all the opposite- their cribs made themNuts and they could sleep without me! So I bought a co sleeper and attached it to the bed- a happy safe child makes for a peaceful homeSent from my iPhone Well Colton is only 20 months old. And is still very much like a baby I could not get him a toddler bed or he would never go to sleep. It takes him a couple hours of rocking before he actually falls asleep. And he shares a room with his older brother so there is a lot for him to get into.Any time he is laid down in a regular bed he refuses to go to sleep. Colton is no longer on a bottle and I don't lock him in his room and never would. The door is open but he is in his crib and check on him to see if he wants out and if he does GREAT, but if not then thats ok too. I would never turn the door knob around so that he couldn't open it. He doesn't know how to open doors anyways! To: autism-aspergers Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 9:34 PM Subject: RE: I give up...... Have you thought of transitioning him to toddler bed, same mattress and bedding. Make sure it not too busy either keep it simple as the colored on made like cars etc may be too busy. With the toddler bed they can safely get themselves out. With things you know that you will have to change it best to start the transitioning earlier than later. He going to have to transition out of crib because he will get too big for it. Same with a bottle because I have seen 7 and old kids still needing a bottle. It will not be such a big deal to the child if you start early before you have too. This way it will be on their terms. It like at seven or eight his big old self will bust the crib and then what if it his choice over time it will not be an issues.Something else I have learned is you can not lock your child in their rooms. If you take a regular bedroom door locking set and turn it around, child cannot open it from their room but anyone can open it for the hall. You can buy alarms at home improvement stores which go off when opened. Mount the on the outside of the windows. Child has to open the window to remove them and by opening it the alarm goes off. JudyTo: autism-aspergers From: bradleysmommy1@...Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 07:44:42 -0700Subject: Re: I give up...... Yeah I think that is what Im gonna do, just listen to what he needs. Because I think that is really whats gonna help him in the long run. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:51 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs.I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe!If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids.My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into "pushing"Him- giving in against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feelBetter- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family!Sent from my iPhone Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. From: Muehleisen Family To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. 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Guest guest Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 My son was over 4...loved his cribSent from my iPhone My oldest w/ AS was 3 and some change before getting out of the crib....liked it in there. My youngest was 11 months when he tried to fly out of the crib and went to a toddler bed that same night! To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Ok- your child is 20 months old? Sounds typical to me that he likes his crib- ive known people whose kids like theirs 3-4 years old- longer if there are sensory issues or delays- relax- it's ok.My kids were all the opposite- their cribs made themNuts and they could sleep without me! So I bought a co sleeper and attached it to the bed- a happy safe child makes for a peaceful homeSent from my iPhone Well Colton is only 20 months old. And is still very much like a baby I could not get him a toddler bed or he would never go to sleep. It takes him a couple hours of rocking before he actually falls asleep. And he shares a room with his older brother so there is a lot for him to get into.Any time he is laid down in a regular bed he refuses to go to sleep. Colton is no longer on a bottle and I don't lock him in his room and never would. The door is open but he is in his crib and check on him to see if he wants out and if he does GREAT, but if not then thats ok too. I would never turn the door knob around so that he couldn't open it. He doesn't know how to open doors anyways! To: autism-aspergers Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 9:34 PM Subject: RE: I give up...... Have you thought of transitioning him to toddler bed, same mattress and bedding. Make sure it not too busy either keep it simple as the colored on made like cars etc may be too busy. With the toddler bed they can safely get themselves out. With things you know that you will have to change it best to start the transitioning earlier than later. He going to have to transition out of crib because he will get too big for it. Same with a bottle because I have seen 7 and old kids still needing a bottle. It will not be such a big deal to the child if you start early before you have too. This way it will be on their terms. It like at seven or eight his big old self will bust the crib and then what if it his choice over time it will not be an issues.Something else I have learned is you can not lock your child in their rooms. If you take a regular bedroom door locking set and turn it around, child cannot open it from their room but anyone can open it for the hall. You can buy alarms at home improvement stores which go off when opened. Mount the on the outside of the windows. Child has to open the window to remove them and by opening it the alarm goes off. JudyTo: autism-aspergers From: bradleysmommy1@...Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 07:44:42 -0700Subject: Re: I give up...... Yeah I think that is what Im gonna do, just listen to what he needs. Because I think that is really whats gonna help him in the long run. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:51 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs.I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe!If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids.My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into "pushing"Him- giving in against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feelBetter- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family!Sent from my iPhone Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. From: Muehleisen Family To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. 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Guest guest Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I am gonna try that thank you! ------------------------------ >I bought a blue one for $19.99 at Wal-Mart it is a one man tent. It worked wonders. I had blankets and pillows in hers. I took it down because she did break the poles rater quickly. I then bought her one of those " doggie " tents for 15 bucks in sporting goods at Wal-Mart. What's nice about those is they twist up for storage and they seem more difficult to break. She now takes it out and puts pillows and books in there. I hope he responds well to a tent. > > > > >________________________________ > >To: " autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > >Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 8:37 AM >Subject: Re: I give up...... > > > >No, the tent is a great idea. I am trying to think of a place where I could get one that would fit in my house tho. They used to have little play ones at wal-mart. I'm going there today so i'll check. I have noticed that Colton loves to be under his blanket a lot. Yeah I even called cps on my sister for keeping her kids in their cribs. just because she didn't want to deal with them though. Yeah, the only time I can even get on here is if someone is here to help me or if he is in bed. I have tried the sounds thing Really the only sound we have during the day are the T.V. But he loves to sit in his crib and just rock and rock and rock. He literally rocks the screws right out of the crib. We have to tighten them every time we put him in bed. But there is no noise that I can hear in that room at all. Maybe he can hear something that I don't. > > >________________________________ > >To: autism-aspergers >Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 3:13 AM >Subject: Re: I give up...... > > > >Please don't think I'm saying not to put him in there. Quite the contrary. If he is happy in his crib then that is where he should be. Especially if he screams when you take him out. I was only suggesting the tent so that he might be able to be comfortable when he is outside his crib too. DD couldn't handle large open spaces when she was very little. She would sit under the edge of my waterbed and look at boos and play. She also liked siting under the coffee table, chairs, tables, computer desk...one time we even caught her inside the end tables (they were cabinets). We got a Playhut tent and she loved it. It blocked out the whole world for her. She could even tolerate sound better in her tent. When I would clean up or whatever, I'd flip the door up over the top of the tent so it wasn't in the way. She would cry until I pulled it back down. > >I do feel that we need to encourage our kids to venture out of their safe places but that they should have their safe places to return to. > >Unfortunately, I have heard of CPS cases where the child was left in the crib all day. Yes it was diapered and fed but still neglected. I'm not implying that you are doing that because obviously if you were neglecting your kid, you wouldn't be on this board trying to find out ways of helping him. That is a no brainer. Unfortunately, our government and some state agencies don't have brains either so I would just make sure you qualify your statements to any doctors that he is always safe, supervised and care for and yada yada yada. > >Someone mentioned the sounds thing. My daughter and I both get agitated when we hears florescent lights that the ballasts are loose or faulty. If someone has a TV on but the cable/satellite is off...I can hear that and it is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. I'd say try to see if you can isolate any sounds or smells that he might be experiencing. See if you can see patterns as to where he stims the most, times of day, activities and so on. It is hard to figure it out at this age but hopefully when he gets older he can tell you what is wrong. Follow your gut instinct. You know what is best for him. > > >  >Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; >Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. >One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. >-- Re: I give up...... >> >> >> >>Does he meow too, cause my older daughter taught colton how to and he has been doing it ever since over and over and over >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: R. > Tucker < > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Don't get me wrong I know some kids that like their cribs but my son almost refuses to ever come out of his. He wants to be in there all the time and is very angry and irritable, and not pleasant to be around if he is removed without will. ------------------------------ >Ok- your child is 20 months old? Sounds typical to me that he likes his crib- ive known people whose kids like theirs 3-4 years old- longer if there are sensory issues or delays- relax- it's ok. > >My kids were all the opposite- their cribs made them >Nuts and they could sleep without me! So I bought a co sleeper and attached it to the bed- a happy safe child makes for a peaceful home > >Sent from my iPhone > > > >> Well Colton is only 20 months old. And is still very much like a baby I could not get him a toddler bed or he would never go to sleep. It takes him a couple hours of rocking before he actually falls asleep. And he shares a room with his older brother so there is a lot for him to get into.Any time he is laid down in a regular bed he refuses to go to sleep. Colton is no longer on a bottle and I don't lock him in his room and never would. The door is open but he is in his crib and check on him to see if he wants out and if he does GREAT, but if not then thats ok too. I would never turn the door knob around so that he couldn't open it. He doesn't know how to open doors anyways! >> >> >> To: autism-aspergers >> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 9:34 PM >> Subject: RE: I give up...... >> >> >> >> Have you thought of transitioning him to toddler bed, same mattress and bedding. Make sure it not too busy either keep it simple as the colored on made like cars etc may be too busy. With the toddler bed they can safely get themselves out. With things you know that you will have to change it best to start the transitioning earlier than later. He going to have to transition out of crib because he will get too big for it. Same with a bottle because I have seen 7 and old kids still needing a bottle. It will not be such a big deal to the child if you start early before you have too. This way it will be on their terms. It like at seven or eight his big old self will bust the crib and then what if it his choice over time it will not be an issues. >> >> Something else I have learned is you can not lock your child in their rooms. If you take a regular bedroom door locking set and turn it around, child cannot open it from their room but anyone can open it for the hall. You can buy alarms at home improvement stores which go off when opened. Mount the on the outside of the windows. Child has to open the window to remove them and by opening it the alarm goes off. >> >> Judy >> >> To: autism-aspergers >> From: bradleysmommy1@... >> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 07:44:42 -0700 >> Subject: Re: I give up...... >> >> >> >> Yeah I think that is what Im gonna do, just listen to what he needs. Because I think that is really whats gonna help him in the long run. >> >> >> To: " autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > >> Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:51 PM >> Subject: Re: I give up...... >> >> >> Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs. >> >> I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe! >> >> If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids. >> >> My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into " pushing " >> Him- giving in against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. >> >> Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feel >> Better- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family! >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> Agreed! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? >> >> >> >> >> >> Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. >> >> >> To: autism-aspergers >> Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM >> Subject: Re: I give up...... >> >> >> What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?\ s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 >> >> To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. >> >> That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad. >> >> >> >> >>   >> Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; >> Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. >> One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. >> -------Original Message------- >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 Don't get me wrong I know some kids that like their cribs but my son almost refuses to ever come out of his. He wants to be in there all the time and is very angry and irritable, and not pleasant to be around if he is removed without will. ------------------------------ >Ok- your child is 20 months old? Sounds typical to me that he likes his crib- ive known people whose kids like theirs 3-4 years old- longer if there are sensory issues or delays- relax- it's ok. > >My kids were all the opposite- their cribs made them >Nuts and they could sleep without me! So I bought a co sleeper and attached it to the bed- a happy safe child makes for a peaceful home > >Sent from my iPhone > > > >> Well Colton is only 20 months old. And is still very much like a baby I could not get him a toddler bed or he would never go to sleep. It takes him a couple hours of rocking before he actually falls asleep. And he shares a room with his older brother so there is a lot for him to get into.Any time he is laid down in a regular bed he refuses to go to sleep. Colton is no longer on a bottle and I don't lock him in his room and never would. The door is open but he is in his crib and check on him to see if he wants out and if he does GREAT, but if not then thats ok too. I would never turn the door knob around so that he couldn't open it. He doesn't know how to open doors anyways! >> >> >> To: autism-aspergers >> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 9:34 PM >> Subject: RE: I give up...... >> >> >> >> Have you thought of transitioning him to toddler bed, same mattress and bedding. Make sure it not too busy either keep it simple as the colored on made like cars etc may be too busy. With the toddler bed they can safely get themselves out. With things you know that you will have to change it best to start the transitioning earlier than later. He going to have to transition out of crib because he will get too big for it. Same with a bottle because I have seen 7 and old kids still needing a bottle. It will not be such a big deal to the child if you start early before you have too. This way it will be on their terms. It like at seven or eight his big old self will bust the crib and then what if it his choice over time it will not be an issues. >> >> Something else I have learned is you can not lock your child in their rooms. If you take a regular bedroom door locking set and turn it around, child cannot open it from their room but anyone can open it for the hall. You can buy alarms at home improvement stores which go off when opened. Mount the on the outside of the windows. Child has to open the window to remove them and by opening it the alarm goes off. >> >> Judy >> >> To: autism-aspergers >> From: bradleysmommy1@... >> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 07:44:42 -0700 >> Subject: Re: I give up...... >> >> >> >> Yeah I think that is what Im gonna do, just listen to what he needs. Because I think that is really whats gonna help him in the long run. >> >> >> To: " autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > >> Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:51 PM >> Subject: Re: I give up...... >> >> >> Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs. >> >> I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe! >> >> If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids. >> >> My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into " pushing " >> Him- giving in against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. >> >> Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feel >> Better- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family! >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> Agreed! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad mother? >> >> >> >> >> >> Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. >> >> >> To: autism-aspergers >> Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM >> Subject: Re: I give up...... >> >> >> What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful? >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?\ s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 >> >> To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that. >> >> That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad. >> >> >> >> >>   >> Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; >> Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. >> One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. >> -------Original Message------- >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Sorry if anyone has suggested this. I am so behind in emails and trying to catch up, but maybe your son prefers the sparse crib because he is visually over-stimulated? Does your home have a lot of knick-knacks, pictures, or colors? That may be affecting him and maybe he just likes the simplicity. Just a thought... > > Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Actually, I have thought about that. And we just moved into this house 8 months ago and he has been doing all this since before we moved and I really slacked on putting this house together and didnt even hang anything on the walls til about 2 months ago. lol. And I have decided to go with very earthy tones brown, cream, beige, black. His room actually has lots of color. It's done in Cars theme. for my older son. And now colton has started this weird "tic" thing. I really don't know how to describe it.... he walks around and goes rawr, but it's very short and when he does it he does this weird head movement like a head bang but only when he says that. Like it's one at a time. And he also keeps walking around with his head turned to the side like he's laying his head on his shoulder. It's very odd....... wrote: Sorry if anyone has suggested this. I am so behind in emails and trying to catch up, but maybe your son prefers the sparse crib because he is visually over-stimulated? Does your home have a lot of knick-knacks, pictures, or colors? That may be affecting him and maybe he just likes the simplicity. Just a thought... To: autism-aspergers Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 1:52 PM Subject: Re: I give up...... Sorry if anyone has suggested this. I am so behind in emails and trying to catch up, but maybe your son prefers the sparse crib because he is visually over-stimulated? Does your home have a lot of knick-knacks, pictures, or colors? That may be affecting him and maybe he just likes the simplicity. Just a thought... > > Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is happy. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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