advice please

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Thanks so much for this great info!!

Re: advice please

- are you taking any selenium along with your iodine supplementation? I recently came across a bunch of research that it's important to keep selenium & iodine in balance or over-supplementing iodine can worsen goiters. I just posted a bunch of links on it a couple of days ago if you search. If you can't find them, let me known, I'll dig them up. Standard ranges for selenium supplementation are 200-400mcg, with most sources conservatively recommending 200mcg. Standard medicine is of the opinion that doses over 1000mcg/day may cause side effects or toxicity. My personal opinion, after researching the topic, is that supplementing with at least 400mcg/day while on high iodine supplementation seems reasonable. 400mcg is the US FDA UTL (Upper Tolerable Level). I would then drop down to 200mcg/day when on a maintenance dose. I started with 200mcg when I started Lugol's 3 weeks ago. I just increased to 400mcg yesterday.This study seems to indicate that levels of 1600-3200mcg can be well-tolerated in cancer patients over a 1-year course, with minimal side effects and toxicity, although the 3200mcg group reported more symptoms. As a caveat, I would say this level is not recommended as a daily long-term in a healthy person: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FDN/is_4_9/ai_n9480681More info on selenium: http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/minerals/selenium/http://orthomolecular.org/nutrients/micronutrients.shtml--- In iodine , " Gikas" <skg59@...> wrote:> I started Iodoral therapy 3 months ago and reported to this group the other day that my cysts on my ovaries are gone. Now I have another concern and want some advice. I have been doing this on my own/no doc. I was found to have a small "multinodular goiter" 6 months ago per ultrasound. Since the Iodoral therapy, my throat area feels more uncomfortable and it feels to me like the goiter has gotten bigger. What do doctors flechas, Abraham etc. say to do if your goiter gets bigger on iodine therapy? Should I just stop it?> > Thanks for any help> >

[Guest guest]

Helen,

I’d call the rheumy’s office.

They may not want Nick to come in today. And if they do want him to come in it

might be wise to have him put in an exam room upon arrival rather than sitting

out in the waiting room.

Hope he feels better. Let us know,

Liz

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of hburger64

Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007

8:52 AM

Subject: Advice please

Hey everyone,

I need some advise..

Nick got his remicade last Friday, and then ran a slight fever that

evening.

yesterday he woke complaining of a sore throat and a stuffy nose. So i

took him to the ped to check for strep. The strep came back negative,

no fever, ears looked good and we were sent home.

Nick did fine all day until supper when he got a high fever similar to

his onset systemic fevers, said his throat was on fire.

he was awake a lot in the night, according to hubby. I just got home

and his fever is down to 101.8, he is crying in pain, saying he cannot

take it anymore and his lymph nodes in his neck are HUGE. His jaw

hurts, but all other joints are ok. he says it feels like theres

something huge stuck in his throat.

He has a scheduled rheumy appt this afternoon at 3.00, his ped is not

in until 1pm.

So do i take him back to the ped or do we go see the rheumy. Hes back

asleep right now.

hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

[Guest guest]

Hi Helen,

If this was Rob I would keep the rheumy appt, but put a call into the ped's office - maybe leave a message that the ped will see when they are in.  The ped rheumy's were ped's first - they can help in figuring out what is going on - maybe even speak with the ped directly if needed.  Poor Nick, just can't get a break.

Val

Rob's Mom (9,systemic)

Advice please

Hey everyone,

I need some advise..

Nick got his remicade last Friday, and then ran a slight fever that

evening.

yesterday he woke complaining of a sore throat and a stuffy nose. So i

took him to the ped to check for strep. The strep came back negative,

no fever, ears looked good and we were sent home.

Nick did fine all day until supper when he got a high fever similar to

his onset systemic fevers, said his throat was on fire.

he was awake a lot in the night, according to hubby. I just got home

and his fever is down to 101.8, he is crying in pain, saying he cannot

take it anymore and his lymph nodes in his neck are HUGE. His jaw

hurts, but all other joints are ok. he says it feels like theres

something huge stuck in his throat.

He has a scheduled rheumy appt this afternoon at 3.00, his ped is not

in until 1pm.

So do i take him back to the ped or do we go see the rheumy. Hes back

asleep right now.

hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

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[Guest guest]

I would take him in, too. Did he have a rapid strep test or a throat culture? I know there is a quick strep test that my daughter doesn't always test negative for that strain, but the more detailed cuture she will. Thinking about you, ' & a jia/uveitishburger64 <hburger64@...> wrote: Hey everyone,I need some advise..Nick got his remicade last Friday, and then ran a slight fever that evening.yesterday he woke

complaining of a sore throat and a stuffy nose. So i took him to the ped to check for strep. The strep came back negative, no fever, ears looked good and we were sent home.Nick did fine all day until supper when he got a high fever similar to his onset systemic fevers, said his throat was on fire.he was awake a lot in the night, according to hubby. I just got home and his fever is down to 101.8, he is crying in pain, saying he cannot take it anymore and his lymph nodes in his neck are HUGE. His jaw hurts, but all other joints are ok. he says it feels like theres something huge stuck in his throat.He has a scheduled rheumy appt this afternoon at 3.00, his ped is not in until 1pm. So do i take him back to the ped or do we go see the rheumy. Hes back asleep right now.hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

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[Guest guest]

Good point Liz - I hadn't thought about it that way - I guess because the only time Robbie was ever that sick he was flaring.

Val

Advice please

 

Hey everyone,

I need some advise..

Nick got his remicade last Friday, and then ran a slight fever that

evening.

yesterday he woke complaining of a sore throat and a stuffy nose. So i

took him to the ped to check for strep. The strep came back negative,

no fever, ears looked good and we were sent home.

Nick did fine all day until supper when he got a high fever similar to

his onset systemic fevers, said his throat was on fire.

he was awake a lot in the night, according to hubby. I just got home

and his fever is down to 101.8, he is crying in pain, saying he cannot

take it anymore and his lymph nodes in his neck are HUGE. His jaw

hurts, but all other joints are ok. he says it feels like theres

something huge stuck in his throat.

He has a scheduled rheumy appt this afternoon at 3.00, his ped is not

in until 1pm.

So do i take him back to the ped or do we go see the rheumy. Hes back

asleep right now.

hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

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[Guest guest]

Helen,

Either Dr I assume could help. See what the Rhuemy has to say. Has Nick been around anyone that was sick?

RobbinSee what's free at AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

Helen,

My gut says stick with the rheumy appt. and let him sleep til then.

When Drea flares she gets the severe sore throat and calls it

a " spikey " sore throat...different from those that you get with

colds. She often whispers because it causes pain for her to talk.

She gets lots of swollen lymph nodes in her neck. She had this in

May and in June with fevers of 103-104. It lasted for two days each

time. Surprisingly she really didn't have any joint pain, just

muscle aches.

Drea had countless strep tests done due to the sore throat

complaints..now when she says its a " spikey " sorethroat we kind of

chalk it up to flare related and just give it a day or two.

Please let us know what the rheumy has to say.

(aundrea 11 systemic jra/gerd)-

-- In , " hburger64 " <hburger64@...> wrote:

>

> Hey everyone,

>

> I need some advise..

>

> Nick got his remicade last Friday, and then ran a slight fever that

> evening.

>

> yesterday he woke complaining of a sore throat and a stuffy nose.

So i

> took him to the ped to check for strep. The strep came back

negative,

> no fever, ears looked good and we were sent home.

>

> Nick did fine all day until supper when he got a high fever similar

to

> his onset systemic fevers, said his throat was on fire.

>

> he was awake a lot in the night, according to hubby. I just got

home

> and his fever is down to 101.8, he is crying in pain, saying he

cannot

> take it anymore and his lymph nodes in his neck are HUGE. His jaw

> hurts, but all other joints are ok. he says it feels like theres

> something huge stuck in his throat.

>

> He has a scheduled rheumy appt this afternoon at 3.00, his ped is

not

> in until 1pm.

>

> So do i take him back to the ped or do we go see the rheumy. Hes

back

> asleep right now.

>

> hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

>

[Guest guest]

--,

Thats exactly what its like. The 24hr strep came back negative. he

discribes it as 100's of knives in his throat, along with a huge lump

thats stopping him from talking.

He slept the morning a way. His temp is down to 100.5, he is too weak

to walk so I am carrying him everywhere. he looks better now than he

did 1st thing this morning, but he did yesterday too, until supper

time when the high fevers started peaking again.

He had dental work last Thursday, the day before remicade, I wonder

if theres any corralation. He's not been right since remicade.

Thanks for all the advise everyone, hes always the only one in the

waiting room at the hospital and we are taken back straight away.

Ill update when we get home.

hugs helen and (9,systemic)

- In , " sonia1md " <sonia1md@...> wrote:

>

> Helen,

>

> My gut says stick with the rheumy appt. and let him sleep til

then.

> When Drea flares she gets the severe sore throat and calls it

> a " spikey " sore throat...different from those that you get with

> colds. She often whispers because it causes pain for her to talk.

> She gets lots of swollen lymph nodes in her neck. She had this in

> May and in June with fevers of 103-104. It lasted for two days

each

> time. Surprisingly she really didn't have any joint pain, just

> muscle aches.

>

> Drea had countless strep tests done due to the sore throat

> complaints..now when she says its a " spikey " sorethroat we kind of

> chalk it up to flare related and just give it a day or two.

>

> Please let us know what the rheumy has to say.

>

> (aundrea 11 systemic jra/gerd)-

>

> -- In , " hburger64 " <hburger64@> wrote:

> >

> > Hey everyone,

> >

> > I need some advise..

> >

> > Nick got his remicade last Friday, and then ran a slight fever

that

> > evening.

> >

> > yesterday he woke complaining of a sore throat and a stuffy nose.

> So i

> > took him to the ped to check for strep. The strep came back

> negative,

> > no fever, ears looked good and we were sent home.

> >

> > Nick did fine all day until supper when he got a high fever

similar

> to

> > his onset systemic fevers, said his throat was on fire.

> >

> > he was awake a lot in the night, according to hubby. I just got

> home

> > and his fever is down to 101.8, he is crying in pain, saying he

> cannot

> > take it anymore and his lymph nodes in his neck are HUGE. His jaw

> > hurts, but all other joints are ok. he says it feels like theres

> > something huge stuck in his throat.

> >

> > He has a scheduled rheumy appt this afternoon at 3.00, his ped is

> not

> > in until 1pm.

> >

> > So do i take him back to the ped or do we go see the rheumy. Hes

> back

> > asleep right now.

> >

> > hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Helen,

Boy that is strange..Drea had orthodontic work in May and June

followed by 24-48 hours of sorethroat, high fever, swollen lymph

nodes. Weird... The spikey sore throat is pretty common for Drea

and is very similar to what Nick described. cindy's daughter, n

also has similar symptoms.

I hope by tomorrow he is doing better. Does he have any rash?

sonia (drea 11 systemic jra/gerd)

> > >

> > > Hey everyone,

> > >

> > > I need some advise..

> > >

> > > Nick got his remicade last Friday, and then ran a slight fever

> that

> > > evening.

> > >

> > > yesterday he woke complaining of a sore throat and a stuffy

nose.

> > So i

> > > took him to the ped to check for strep. The strep came back

> > negative,

> > > no fever, ears looked good and we were sent home.

> > >

> > > Nick did fine all day until supper when he got a high fever

> similar

> > to

> > > his onset systemic fevers, said his throat was on fire.

> > >

> > > he was awake a lot in the night, according to hubby. I just got

> > home

> > > and his fever is down to 101.8, he is crying in pain, saying he

> > cannot

> > > take it anymore and his lymph nodes in his neck are HUGE. His

jaw

> > > hurts, but all other joints are ok. he says it feels like

theres

> > > something huge stuck in his throat.

> > >

> > > He has a scheduled rheumy appt this afternoon at 3.00, his ped

is

> > not

> > > in until 1pm.

> > >

> > > So do i take him back to the ped or do we go see the rheumy.

Hes

> > back

> > > asleep right now.

> > >

> > > hugs Helen and (9,systemic)

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Diane,

Why would you even consider surrendering your license? Aren't your NSG facilitator or lawyer giving you any guidance and support? Just because the AG wants to revoke, there is a hearing for that in which you tell your side of the story. It's NOT a "done deal". Please don't let them intimidate you like this...You gotta fight it!

Lorie

advice please

Has anyone ever surrendered their rn license or is it better to wait until it's revoked? I just can't seem to quit getting positive etg's, even though I didn't drink. My nurse support person seems to think the board is going for revocation. I have a lawyer. Should I just give up? Thanks for your input, Diane

[Guest guest]

Do not give up...

[Guest guest]

>

> Do not give up...

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Do not give up...

>

[Guest guest]

DO NOT surrentder your license...........most of us have been at that

point........keep fighting

-- In Ethylglucuronide , JILL hall <jillypill@...>

wrote:

>

> Do not give up...

>

[Guest guest]

Diane---- I remember being ready to throw in the towel, not even consider Probation, & walk away from Diversion in Sept '05. My NSG leader also was beyond unsupportive. I was discouraged beyond hope & scared to death, but then my husband threw me a challenge of sorts, & my DEC suggested I "give it until Dec or until there's another +" & I found the internal strength to keep going---I've had no +'s since then. I made some changes that I told you about & it seems to have helped. I know you personally, & you don't strike me as a give up kind of gal. Please think long & hard & don't believe everything your NSG leader has to say. Use your real support system, including all of us on this site & keep my # handy. Believe me, I do understand how you are feeling/thinking right now. Don't take any permanent actions in such a vulnerable state.

Like Lorie said, it's not a "done deal". Best thoughts are with you. Call me anytime. Marsha doetta5555 <doetta5555@...> wrote: Has anyone ever surrendered their rn license or is it better to wait until it's revoked? I just can't seem to quit getting positive etg's, even though I didn't drink. My nurse support person seems to think the board is going for revocation. I have a lawyer. Should I just give up? Thanks for your input,

Diane

Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more.

[Guest guest]

I agree! There are things happening behind the scenes..slo-o-o-

wly..remember the promises-- " sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly,

they will always come if we work for them " .

~~~~~~~~~~~Keep the Faith~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Eva

> Has anyone ever surrendered their rn license or is it

better to wait

> until it's revoked? I just can't seem to quit getting positive

etg's,

> even though I didn't drink. My nurse support person seems to think

the

> board is going for revocation. I have a lawyer. Should I just give

up?

> Thanks for your input, Diane

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket:

mail, news, photos & more.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Has anyone ever surrendered their rn license or is it better to wait

> until it's revoked? I just can't seem to quit getting positive etg's,

> even though I didn't drink. My nurse support person seems to think

the

> board is going for revocation. I have a lawyer. Should I just give

up?

> Thanks for your input, Diane

>

Diane, it's YOUR license, please do not give up!

You have an attorney, please you her/his services

to the max.

I wish I had more concrete info for you, but I hope

this gesture of support will help. Don't give up!

Ray

RPh Virginia

[Guest guest]

> > Has anyone ever surrendered their rn license or is it

> better to wait

> > until it's revoked? I just can't seem to quit getting positive

> etg's,

> > even though I didn't drink. My nurse support person seems to

think

> the

> > board is going for revocation. I have a lawyer. Should I just

give

> up?

> > Thanks for your input, Diane

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your

pocket:

> mail, news, photos & more.

> >

>I've just read the above response and wanted to say again DO NOT

GIVE UP!

I'm a pharmacist in VA and am a bit of different situation in that I

no longer need my license to persue my line of work. I work for the

US Gov't as a patent Examiner and make judgements about a given

pharmaceutical's claim for patentability.

I continue to be monitored because I so value my license, eventhough

I have no need for it to work.

Any way, I just wanted to repeat....Please Do Not Give Up! You have

not had a drink..so the test is wrong!

Ray

[Guest guest]

diane, i have been and walked through that dark fearful place where you are against the medical board who wanted me to surrender to something that was not the truth...i chose to stand my ground they had no grounds got a simple suspension to work on my recovery reapplication after...i have no regrets because to do otherwise would have been a lie....worst case scenario revocation in 1/50 states no biggie lots of health professionals have dealt with it by simply not interacting in settings in that state where licensure required...i would keep my recovery first and this too shall pass and the truth will be revealed one day at a time...regards,r Ray <nquirer85@...> wrote: >> Has anyone ever surrendered their rn license or is it better to wait > until it's revoked? I just can't seem to quit getting positive etg's, > even though I didn't drink. My nurse support person seems to think the > board is going for revocation. I have a lawyer. Should I just give up? > Thanks for your input, Diane>Diane, it's YOUR license, please do not give up! You have an attorney, please you her/his servicesto the max. I wish I had more concrete info for you, but I hopethis gesture of support will help. Don't give

up!RayRPh Virginia

[Guest guest]

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:53:08 -0000, you wrote:

>I know the T/E2 ratio is key to weight control; what do you think my

>ratio should be? (I'm 63 and about 260 pounds right now; B/P and

>Cholesterol numbers are OK from the most recent lab tests, as are all

>the lipid tests.)

I think E2 levels are more important than the ratio. Getting down a

bit would help. Ideal I find is around 25. I like to be in the 20 to

30 range myself.

[Guest guest]

Hi Lee I am the same age and weigh a little more then you. All I see that needs

to be fixed is your Estradiol now you said your on Indolplex/DIM how long have

you been on it and is this the results of your labs for Estradiol on it. If so

it's not working or did you ever get some morning and night time wood after you

started on this. Then it stopped if this is the case you went to low so I need

to know if with this test were you on the Indolplex/DIM taking one tablet a day.

Also have you every tried Cialis 20mgs you would need to take it every 3 days

this helps a lot my Dr. has me on this now for as long as Cialis has been on the

market. I have not problems with my sex as long as I keep my Total and Free T

levels up into the upper 1/3 of my labs range for a young man. And keep my

Estradiol down between 10 to 30 some men do good higher. If my Estradiol was

has high as yours is I would not be able to have sex even doing the Cialis.

I have a low SHBG so I keep my Estradiol between 15 to 20 this is what keeps my

Wood going.

Lee <hdbtwnurlegs2001@...> wrote:

I don't post very often, but some of you may remember my post of a few

years ago about the difficulty I was having getting my Dr. to test my

T and E2 levels. I have learned a lot from reading your posts and

trying to use the knowledge gained to find a Dr. that wants to work

with me on solving my diabetes control (type 1 for 59 of my 63

years)and weight loss issues.

Anyhow, after quite a bit of Dr. shopping, I was FINALLY able to find

one that agreed to do the testing and prescribed T-gel for me. I was

very low on both T and Free-T, and fairly high on E2. I have been on

compounded 5% T-gel (with Chrysin) for 2 1/2 months, and I've noticed

improvement in my libido, stamina and endurance, but very little in

terms of weight loss or HA1C glucose control (now 7.2).

My most recent test results are:

Description Value Ref Range

Testosterone, Serum 692 mg/dl 241-827

Free Testosterone (Direct) 15.5 pg/ml 6.6-18.1

Estradiol 39 pg/ml Adult Male <54

Tests by Labcorp

I've also added one Indolplex® with DIM® tablet (from the source/link

posted here a couple of months ago) to my daily regime.

I will be meeting with my Dr. in a couple of weeks and would like to

talk with her about how make better progress towards restoring my

nocturnal erections and increasing my desire to exercise.

I know the T/E2 ratio is key to weight control; what do you think my

ratio should be? (I'm 63 and about 260 pounds right now; B/P and

Cholesterol numbers are OK from the most recent lab tests, as are all

the lipid tests.)

What other tests do you recommend for us to get a really good

understanding of where my body's sexual health is and should be?

My erectile function is impaired due to venous leakage, from my poor

diabetes control over a period of many years, but since I don't have

any of the other complications of Type 1, God must be smiling on me.

I'd welcome any and all your suggestions and advice.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

Lee

Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. "

Phil

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

don't forget zinc. 50mg zinc a day followed with 2 mg copper to go along with

indoplex.

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Hi Lee I am the same age

and weigh a little more then you. All I see that needs to be fixed is your

Estradiol now you said your on Indolplex/DIM how long have you been on it and is

this the results of your labs for Estradiol on it. If so it's not working or did

you ever get some morning and night time wood after you started on this. Then it

stopped if this is the case you went to low so I need to know if with this test

were you on the Indolplex/DIM taking one tablet a day.

Also have you every tried Cialis 20mgs you would need to take it every 3 days

this helps a lot my Dr. has me on this now for as long as Cialis has been on the

market. I have not problems with my sex as long as I keep my Total and Free T

levels up into the upper 1/3 of my labs range for a young man. And keep my

Estradiol down between 10 to 30 some men do good higher. If my Estradiol was has

high as yours is I would not be able to have sex even doing the Cialis.

I have a low SHBG so I keep my Estradiol between 15 to 20 this is what keeps my

Wood going.

Lee <hdbtwnurlegs2001@...> wrote:

I don't post very often, but some of you may remember my post of a few

years ago about the difficulty I was having getting my Dr. to test my

T and E2 levels. I have learned a lot from reading your posts and

trying to use the knowledge gained to find a Dr. that wants to work

with me on solving my diabetes control (type 1 for 59 of my 63

years)and weight loss issues.

Anyhow, after quite a bit of Dr. shopping, I was FINALLY able to find

one that agreed to do the testing and prescribed T-gel for me. I was

very low on both T and Free-T, and fairly high on E2. I have been on

compounded 5% T-gel (with Chrysin) for 2 1/2 months, and I've noticed

improvement in my libido, stamina and endurance, but very little in

terms of weight loss or HA1C glucose control (now 7.2).

My most recent test results are:

Description Value Ref Range

Testosterone, Serum 692 mg/dl 241-827

Free Testosterone (Direct) 15.5 pg/ml 6.6-18.1

Estradiol 39 pg/ml Adult Male <54

Tests by Labcorp

I've also added one Indolplex® with DIM® tablet (from the source/link

posted here a couple of months ago) to my daily regime.

I will be meeting with my Dr. in a couple of weeks and would like to

talk with her about how make better progress towards restoring my

nocturnal erections and increasing my desire to exercise.

I know the T/E2 ratio is key to weight control; what do you think my

ratio should be? (I'm 63 and about 260 pounds right now; B/P and

Cholesterol numbers are OK from the most recent lab tests, as are all

the lipid tests.)

What other tests do you recommend for us to get a really good

understanding of where my body's sexual health is and should be?

My erectile function is impaired due to venous leakage, from my poor

diabetes control over a period of many years, but since I don't have

any of the other complications of Type 1, God must be smiling on me.

I'd welcome any and all your suggestions and advice.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

Lee

Co-Moderator " Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see. "

Phil

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Lizzie - Ive contacted his secretary a couple of times to ask if he will agree to up my dose - first time he was fine about this and I havent had a reply this time, as I emailed his secretary last week (though she has replied). She is very nice and helpful. If you ring the switchboard they will put you through to her, explain and she will ask him and one of them will get back to you Im sure. He didnt mind when I asked him about this before so I would ask him.

Gill

Hi,I've had a really hard few days, to recap I stopped my medication fora week to commence NAE and I am now up to 3 a day. I have been back onmy 75 mcg levothyroxine for 2 weeks and back up to full dose of 10 mcgT3 for 10 days. My endo introduced the T3 back on 4th Jan. However, Ijust don't seem to be getting any better apart from an improvement inmy skin after starting the T3, but this then seemed to drop off. sincegoing back on all meds I just aren't picking up. Can have maybe oneday where I think there is an improvement but then following day feelbad again. Symptoms at the moment are cramp like pains in thighs, armsfeeling weak and haevy, wobbly legs, irritable, went to visit mymother yesterday, could hardly hold a conversation together I felt sotired, I eventually came round as it was time to leave. These feelingsof tiredness seem to suddenley come over me when I think I am having agood day and the bam I'm having a bad day. Two weeks after starting T3I had an episode of palpitations during the night. I contacted endoabout this and he did'nt think it was related to T3, however I wasn'tconvinced so I started the NAE as backup, he ordered more TFT's to putmy mind at rest which were done on 12th Feb, for which I have notreceived results. Does anyone think it would be out of order if Icontact him today and as if it is possible for an increase in my dose,I don't think I can wait until the end of the month, I am going onholiday with my hubby and kids in two weeks and really hoped that bythen I would have been feeling better, it's so hard coping in theschool holidays when you feel so drained. Sheila and Gill I think youknow who my endo is Gill (thurgo lady) you see the same one as me Iwould welcome your thoughts. Love Lizzie

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Hi Gill

Thanks for your reply, I have contacted his secretary before and she

is very helpful. I will maybe contact her tomorrow as I am still

awaiting results of my last blood test and a blood form for my next

test before I see him again. Funnily enough I have felt a little

better today, so may see how I feel tomorrow as to whether I bring up

the subject of increasing my dose. Thanks for your help.

Love Lizzie

> Hi Lizzie - Ive contacted his secretary a couple of times to ask if

he will agree to up my dose - first time he was fine about this and I

havent had a reply this time, as I emailed his secretary last week

(though she has replied). She is very nice and helpful. If you ring

the switchboard they will put you through to her, explain and she will

ask him and one of them will get back to you Im sure. He didnt mind

when I asked him about this before so I would ask him.

> Gill

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Hi Cec - Are you taking T4/T3

combination therapy on the recommendations of your doctor, or is this something

you are doing yourself. Usually, when T3 is added to T4, it is normal to

decrease the amount of T4 you are taking. How are you actually feeling? When

my ex.endo decided I needed the addition of some T3, she decreased my 125 mcgs

levothyroxine down to 50mcgs and added 20 mcgs T3 - this was too much for me as

I had adverse reactions to the T3 on the 9th day, and I wish she had started me

on 10mcgs. However, I eventually started on Armour and that was the treatment

for me.

I would discuss this with your doctor and

ask whether you should drop your dose of levothyroxine. Doctors would

tell you that you should take your medication until your blood results are within

the accepted normal reference range - but I would say you should go by how you

feel, and yes, I personally would increase my T3 by 10 mcgs in the same way as

Armour until you start to feel hyper - and then drop back. This is how the used

to treat in the good old days, before the manufacture of the blood tests.

Hypo's put on weight because their

metabolism is too slow and they are unable to burn off excess calories. It

makes no difference what you eat it would seem, but once you get onto the

correct thyroid hormone replacement, your metabolism will increase and you should

be able to burn off calories again automatically.

Luv - Sheila

Hi I'm taking

125 levo and started taking 10mcg T3 4 weeks ago and have

just upped it to 20mcg this week.

do I continue to increase the t3 in the same way as armor (until I feel

hyper and drop back) or is there another method.

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