Re: 3rd Day of MMS - Flutters UNDER Liver

[Guest guest]

OK,

You seem to be Guessing at this Point. My 22 yo Daughter does the Same thing

always. Stop!

Worms? Did you see them in the BM?

Worms in the Brain?

OK, Stop again.

Next you should do a Liver Detox. Your Liver is your Body's filter. So lets get

it healthy and working good. The following is a suggested Liver Detox but you

should also do more to help regenerate your Liver.

Five day liver cleanse.

It is best to have day 4 on a Saturday or at a time when you are staying at

home.

Day 1: Drink 1 liter (4 cups) of apple juice during the day. Eat as normal

otherwise.

Day 2: Drink another liter of apple juice. Eat normally

Day 3: Drink a 3rd liter of apple juice. Eat normally

Day 4: Do not take any sold food after lunch time

6pm - Take one level tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water

8pm - Take another tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water. You may find

that you already have to take a trip to the toilet before the 8pm Epsom salt.

10pm - Mix one half glass of olive oil and three quarter glass of freshly

squeezed grape fruit juice by shaking it very well in a jar with a lid so that

it mixes well. Drink it down and immediately get into bed after drinking the

mixture. You will probably make more than one trip to the toilet during the

night as well as during the next day.

Day 5:

6am: Take another tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water

8am: Take one final tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water.

You will find that many gallstones from the liver will be passed and one will

notice them in the toilet. They will vary in size from about pin head size to

10mm. Gallstones in the liver are a major cause of many health problems.

The above liver cleanse can be repeated every month until one finds that for

two months in succession no more gallstones are passed. The liver will then be

clean.

Source: s Moritz's book ' " The liver and gallbladder miracle cleanse "

which you can download from his site at www.ener-chi.com

Then maybe do the MMS Protocol for the Suggested time and see what happens.

Maybe try many other Protocols as well but just one at a time. If you are loaded

up with Pathogens, then you will end up with a large die off and become even

more Ill. This is called the Herxheimer effect.

That's my 2 bits.

M~R

>

> HELLO, my first ever posting to a group. I've read so much helpful info at

this group, but I am not finding anything posted that is similar to what I'm

experiencing. I am a NEWBIE & only dosing at 2 drops every hour 6 times daily. I

plan on starting 3 drops tomorrow, my 4th day.

>

> I have a bucket full of symptoms, no diagnosis. Not for want of trying. My ER

vitals keep coming back NORMAL, when I am OBVIOUSLY very ill. FOUR visits this

year. NOW they think I'm a hypochondriac & pretty much mock me... so I given up

on them as they have me. STINKS, but that's life.

>

> I initially thought I had hypothyroidism due to facial changes, hair loss,

bloating, constipation, muscle fatigue, etc. Extensive tests came back NORMAL, 4

times. Then I thought it might be Candida overgrowth. Similar symptoms. Changed

diet drastically. Took 3Lac Probiotics. Didn't feel any different. Ordered MMS

from eBay.

>

> I " thought " I was dying. At times, I still do. I am only 54 & gone from

healthy & vibrant to one foot in the grave & the other on a banana peel --- in

ONE year's time. I've been unable to work due to extreme weakness & brain fog,

etc. So, we are broke. Thankful to find MMS for only $14. Did ONE drop 6 times

throughout day ONE & TWO. Today was 2 drops. Close to the end of all 3 days, I

feel what can only be described as a FLUTTER under my liver. 10-15 minutes, then

it goes away.

>

> I had HEP.B in 1977, so I know where my liver is... thinking it might be

stones or flukes??? Also when I lie on either side to attempt sleep, I feel

SOMETHING moving inside me. Not normal gut movements or gas. Also the flutters

under the liver resume.

>

> For the past 10 days, my bowels have been crazy non-productive. I was passing

identifiable undigested food, when I could go. Started shredding veggies &

cooking them to a mushy state. Eating very little now. Food hurts in my tummy.

Gone from 224# to 189# in one month. This can't continue much longer.

>

> Last night & tonight, I had a few explosive episodes of a liquid that I would

describe as BILE??? Yellowish-orange-brown liquid, not much odor to it. Not much

volume either. Just has to come out of me & won't wait. Thankful to be home!!!

>

> My thoughts are WORMS & /or FLUKES, maybe several types??? The moving below my

diaphragm seems to be active shortly after eating anything. The flutters never

happened before MMS. I've read that one can buy the DOG WORMER, Praziquantel

OTC. Same as what Dr's prescribed for a fraction of the cost, under $10. Found

dosage online: 25mg p.o. t.i.d.(3x daily) for 2 days. Says it works on Flukes &

Tapeworms.

>

> The part that spooks me is the warning about worms in your BRAIN and how some

seriously bad results can happen. Or else I'd have already done this. Don't

think I have any of those symptoms... but one never knows.

>

> Does anyone have any experience with WORMS & /or FLUKES??? HELP please. I am so

tired of sick & tired. It has just about done me in and no one believes that I

am sick. Feeling very alone.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this information – I’m

going to schedule it in the near future!

Question… on day 5 – do you

eat normally? And is that AFTER the 8am Epsom salt solution?

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Monkeyron

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011

1:09 PM

Subject:

[ ] Re: 3rd Day of MMS - Flutters UNDER Liver

OK,

You seem to be Guessing at this Point. My 22 yo Daughter does the Same thing

always. Stop!

Worms? Did you

see them in the BM?

Worms in the

Brain?

OK, Stop again.

Next you should do a Liver Detox. Your Liver is your Body's filter. So lets get

it healthy and working good. The following is a suggested Liver Detox but you

should also do more to help regenerate your Liver.

Five day liver cleanse.

It is best to have day 4 on a Saturday or at a time when you are staying at

home.

Day 1: Drink 1 liter (4 cups) of apple juice during the day. Eat as normal

otherwise.

Day 2: Drink another liter of apple juice. Eat normally

Day 3: Drink a 3rd liter of apple juice. Eat normally

Day 4: Do not take any sold food after lunch time

6pm - Take one level tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water

8pm - Take another tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water. You may find

that you already have to take a trip to the toilet before the 8pm Epsom salt.

10pm - Mix one half glass of olive oil and three quarter glass of freshly

squeezed grape fruit juice by shaking it very well in a jar with a lid so that

it mixes well. Drink it down and immediately get into bed after drinking the

mixture. You will probably make more than one trip to the toilet during the

night as well as during the next day.

Day 5:

6am: Take another tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water

8am: Take one final tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water.

You will find that many gallstones from the liver will be passed and one will

notice them in the toilet. They will vary in size from about pin head size to

10mm. Gallstones in the liver are a major cause of many health problems.

The above liver cleanse can be repeated every month until one finds that for

two months in succession no more gallstones are passed. The liver will then be

clean.

Source: s Moritz's book ' " The liver and gallbladder miracle

cleanse " which you can download from his site at www.ener-chi.com

Then maybe do the MMS Protocol for the Suggested time and see what happens.

Maybe try many other Protocols as well but just one at a time. If you are

loaded up with Pathogens, then you will end up with a large die off and become

even more Ill. This is called the Herxheimer effect.

That's my 2 bits.

M~R

>

> HELLO, my first ever posting to a group. I've read so much helpful info at

this group, but I am not finding anything posted that is similar to what I'm

experiencing. I am a NEWBIE & only dosing at 2 drops every hour 6 times

daily. I plan on starting 3 drops tomorrow, my 4th day.

>

> I have a bucket full of symptoms, no diagnosis. Not for want of trying. My

ER vitals keep coming back NORMAL,

when I am OBVIOUSLY very ill. FOUR visits this year. NOW they think I'm a

hypochondriac & pretty much mock me... so I given up on them as they have

me. STINKS, but that's life.

>

> I initially thought I had hypothyroidism due to facial changes, hair loss,

bloating, constipation, muscle fatigue, etc. Extensive tests came back NORMAL,

4 times. Then I thought it might be Candida overgrowth. Similar symptoms.

Changed diet drastically. Took 3Lac Probiotics. Didn't feel any different.

Ordered MMS from eBay.

>

> I " thought " I was dying. At times, I still do. I am only 54

& gone from healthy & vibrant to one foot in the grave & the other

on a banana peel --- in ONE year's time. I've been unable to work due to

extreme weakness & brain fog, etc. So, we are broke. Thankful to find MMS

for only $14. Did ONE drop 6 times throughout day ONE & TWO. Today was 2 drops.

Close to the end of all 3 days, I feel what can only be described as a FLUTTER

under my liver. 10-15 minutes, then it goes away.

>

> I had HEP.B in 1977, so I know where my liver is... thinking it might be

stones or flukes??? Also when I lie on either side to attempt sleep, I feel

SOMETHING moving inside me. Not normal gut movements or gas. Also the flutters

under the liver resume.

>

> For the past 10 days, my bowels have been crazy non-productive. I was

passing identifiable undigested food, when I could go. Started shredding

veggies & cooking them to a mushy state. Eating very little now. Food hurts

in my tummy. Gone from 224# to 189# in one month. This can't continue much

longer.

>

> Last night & tonight, I had a few explosive episodes of a liquid that

I would describe as BILE??? Yellowish-orange-brown liquid, not much odor to it.

Not much volume either. Just has to come out of me & won't wait. Thankful

to be home!!!

>

> My thoughts are WORMS

& /or FLUKES, maybe several types??? The moving below my diaphragm seems to

be active shortly after eating anything. The flutters never happened before

MMS. I've read that one can buy the DOG WORMER, Praziquantel OTC. Same as what

Dr's prescribed for a fraction of the cost, under $10. Found dosage online:

25mg p.o. t.i.d.(3x daily) for 2 days. Says it works on Flukes & Tapeworms.

>

> The part that spooks me is the warning about worms in your BRAIN and how

some seriously bad results can happen. Or else I'd have already done this.

Don't think I have any of those symptoms... but one never knows.

>

> Does anyone have any experience with WORMS

& /or FLUKES??? HELP please. I am so tired of sick & tired. It has just

about done me in and no one believes that I am sick. Feeling very alone.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello, .Sounds like a severe regimen.My email is to ask about your email address, as it may be that you could be a source for Platinum Group Metal concentrate " black sand " in multi-tonne quantities.

If this makes no sense to you, then I have wasted you time and I apologize, but if it does make sense, then I may have a buyer.Appreciated,Ed.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:12 PM, <blacksands@...> wrote:

 

Thanks for this information – I’m

going to schedule it in the near future!

 

Question… on day 5 – do you

eat normally? And is that AFTER the 8am Epsom salt solution?

 

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Monkeyron

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011

1:09 PM

Subject:

[ ] Re: 3rd Day of MMS - Flutters UNDER Liver

 

 

OK,

You seem to be Guessing at this Point. My 22 yo Daughter does the Same thing

always. Stop!

Worms? Did you

see them in the BM?

Worms in the

Brain?

OK, Stop again.

Next you should do a Liver Detox. Your Liver is your Body's filter. So lets get

it healthy and working good. The following is a suggested Liver Detox but you

should also do more to help regenerate your Liver.

Five day liver cleanse.

It is best to have day 4 on a Saturday or at a time when you are staying at

home.

Day 1: Drink 1 liter (4 cups) of apple juice during the day. Eat as normal

otherwise.

Day 2: Drink another liter of apple juice. Eat normally

Day 3: Drink a 3rd liter of apple juice. Eat normally

Day 4: Do not take any sold food after lunch time

6pm - Take one level tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water

8pm - Take another tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water. You may find

that you already have to take a trip to the toilet before the 8pm Epsom salt.

10pm - Mix one half glass of olive oil and three quarter glass of freshly

squeezed grape fruit juice by shaking it very well in a jar with a lid so that

it mixes well. Drink it down and immediately get into bed after drinking the

mixture. You will probably make more than one trip to the toilet during the

night as well as during the next day.

Day 5:

6am: Take another tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water

8am: Take one final tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water.

You will find that many gallstones from the liver will be passed and one will

notice them in the toilet. They will vary in size from about pin head size to

10mm. Gallstones in the liver are a major cause of many health problems.

The above liver cleanse can be repeated every month until one finds that for

two months in succession no more gallstones are passed. The liver will then be

clean.

Source: s Moritz's book ' " The liver and gallbladder miracle

cleanse " which you can download from his site at www.ener-chi.com

Then maybe do the MMS Protocol for the Suggested time and see what happens.

Maybe try many other Protocols as well but just one at a time. If you are

loaded up with Pathogens, then you will end up with a large die off and become

even more Ill. This is called the Herxheimer effect.

That's my 2 bits.

M~R

>

> HELLO, my first ever posting to a group. I've read so much helpful info at

this group, but I am not finding anything posted that is similar to what I'm

experiencing. I am a NEWBIE & only dosing at 2 drops every hour 6 times

daily. I plan on starting 3 drops tomorrow, my 4th day.

>

> I have a bucket full of symptoms, no diagnosis. Not for want of trying. My

ER vitals keep coming back NORMAL,

when I am OBVIOUSLY very ill. FOUR visits this year. NOW they think I'm a

hypochondriac & pretty much mock me... so I given up on them as they have

me. STINKS, but that's life.

>

> I initially thought I had hypothyroidism due to facial changes, hair loss,

bloating, constipation, muscle fatigue, etc. Extensive tests came back NORMAL,

4 times. Then I thought it might be Candida overgrowth. Similar symptoms.

Changed diet drastically. Took 3Lac Probiotics. Didn't feel any different.

Ordered MMS from eBay.

>

> I " thought " I was dying. At times, I still do. I am only 54

& gone from healthy & vibrant to one foot in the grave & the other

on a banana peel --- in ONE year's time. I've been unable to work due to

extreme weakness & brain fog, etc. So, we are broke. Thankful to find MMS

for only $14. Did ONE drop 6 times throughout day ONE & TWO. Today was 2 drops.

Close to the end of all 3 days, I feel what can only be described as a FLUTTER

under my liver. 10-15 minutes, then it goes away.

>

> I had HEP.B in 1977, so I know where my liver is... thinking it might be

stones or flukes??? Also when I lie on either side to attempt sleep, I feel

SOMETHING moving inside me. Not normal gut movements or gas. Also the flutters

under the liver resume.

>

> For the past 10 days, my bowels have been crazy non-productive. I was

passing identifiable undigested food, when I could go. Started shredding

veggies & cooking them to a mushy state. Eating very little now. Food hurts

in my tummy. Gone from 224# to 189# in one month. This can't continue much

longer.

>

> Last night & tonight, I had a few explosive episodes of a liquid that

I would describe as BILE??? Yellowish-orange-brown liquid, not much odor to it.

Not much volume either. Just has to come out of me & won't wait. Thankful

to be home!!!

>

> My thoughts are WORMS

& /or FLUKES, maybe several types??? The moving below my diaphragm seems to

be active shortly after eating anything. The flutters never happened before

MMS. I've read that one can buy the DOG WORMER, Praziquantel OTC. Same as what

Dr's prescribed for a fraction of the cost, under $10. Found dosage online:

25mg p.o. t.i.d.(3x daily) for 2 days. Says it works on Flukes & Tapeworms.

>

> The part that spooks me is the warning about worms in your BRAIN and how

some seriously bad results can happen. Or else I'd have already done this.

Don't think I have any of those symptoms... but one never knows.

>

> Does anyone have any experience with WORMS

& /or FLUKES??? HELP please. I am so tired of sick & tired. It has just

about done me in and no one believes that I am sick. Feeling very alone.

>

-- Ed Botting+1-214-330-9955Skype: e.bottingI consider my life worth nothing to me, if only I may finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the gospel of God's grace. Acts 20:24  Holy Bible - NIV

God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.  Galatians 6:10  Holy Bible - KJVJesus Christ Said, " I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man comes to the Father but by Me. "

[Guest guest]

The first three days you eat normally. The fourth day, no solid foods after

lunch. On day 5, after you feel you have passed all the stones, and feel up to

it, you can resume eating.

For more info go to:

http://www.tbyil.com/anticancer.htm

Ron

> >

> > HELLO, my first ever posting to a group. I've read so much helpful info at

> this group, but I am not finding anything posted that is similar to what I'm

> experiencing. I am a NEWBIE & only dosing at 2 drops every hour 6 times

> daily. I plan on starting 3 drops tomorrow, my 4th day.

> >

> > I have a bucket full of symptoms, no diagnosis. Not for want of trying. My

> ER vitals keep coming back NORMAL, when I am OBVIOUSLY very ill. FOUR visits

> this year. NOW they think I'm a hypochondriac & pretty much mock me... so I

> given up on them as they have me. STINKS, but that's life.

> >

> > I initially thought I had hypothyroidism due to facial changes, hair loss,

> bloating, constipation, muscle fatigue, etc. Extensive tests came back

> NORMAL, 4 times. Then I thought it might be Candida overgrowth. Similar

> symptoms. Changed diet drastically. Took 3Lac Probiotics. Didn't feel any

> different. Ordered MMS from eBay.

> >

> > I " thought " I was dying. At times, I still do. I am only 54 & gone from

> healthy & vibrant to one foot in the grave & the other on a banana peel ---

> in ONE year's time. I've been unable to work due to extreme weakness & brain

> fog, etc. So, we are broke. Thankful to find MMS for only $14. Did ONE drop

> 6 times throughout day ONE & TWO. Today was 2 drops. Close to the end of all

> 3 days, I feel what can only be described as a FLUTTER under my liver. 10-15

> minutes, then it goes away.

> >

> > I had HEP.B in 1977, so I know where my liver is... thinking it might be

> stones or flukes??? Also when I lie on either side to attempt sleep, I feel

> SOMETHING moving inside me. Not normal gut movements or gas. Also the

> flutters under the liver resume.

> >

> > For the past 10 days, my bowels have been crazy non-productive. I was

> passing identifiable undigested food, when I could go. Started shredding

> veggies & cooking them to a mushy state. Eating very little now. Food hurts

> in my tummy. Gone from 224# to 189# in one month. This can't continue much

> longer.

> >

> > Last night & tonight, I had a few explosive episodes of a liquid that I

> would describe as BILE??? Yellowish-orange-brown liquid, not much odor to

> it. Not much volume either. Just has to come out of me & won't wait.

> Thankful to be home!!!

> >

> > My thoughts are WORMS & /or FLUKES, maybe several types??? The moving below

> my diaphragm seems to be active shortly after eating anything. The flutters

> never happened before MMS. I've read that one can buy the DOG WORMER,

> Praziquantel OTC. Same as what Dr's prescribed for a fraction of the cost,

> under $10. Found dosage online: 25mg p.o. t.i.d.(3x daily) for 2 days. Says

> it works on Flukes & Tapeworms.

> >

> > The part that spooks me is the warning about worms in your BRAIN and how

> some seriously bad results can happen. Or else I'd have already done this.

> Don't think I have any of those symptoms... but one never knows.

> >

> > Does anyone have any experience with WORMS & /or FLUKES??? HELP please. I

> am so tired of sick & tired. It has just about done me in and no one

> believes that I am sick. Feeling very alone.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Monkeyron,

Check it out... I'm FIFTY-FOUR. Not a child. Not your child. YES, I am GUESSING.

That is all that is left for me to do since the medical community has let me

down FOUR times. LIVER FLUKES do not show up in one's stool. And seldom do

tapeworms as they are DIGESTED once they die and appear as normal fecal matter

in the toilet.

Your LIVER DETOX recipe is not on my agenda. APPLE JUICE will only FEED the

Candida, so NO. Then you say to take enough Epsom Salt to give a full grown

ELEPHANT the shitz, so NO. I am eating only about a cup of SOUP daily. Anything

more solid HURTS my stomach, doesn't get digested and takes 3-4 days to come of

me. I've read many recipes online and they all seem to follow this general path.

I will stick with the MMS for now, as it seems to be clearing the way. When I

feel a bit stronger, I will consider a Liver Cleanse. I have only enough

strength to get from the computer to the bathroom.

I was LOOKING for a response from someone that has been through a de-worming

procedure. Someone that has first hand knowledge about what it FEELS like to

have a tapeworm. I am NOT getting any nourishment at present, MAL-ABSORPTION. I

am taking a sub-lingual B Complex to help.

I was under the impression that we are all here to HELP one another??? To share

insight, bolster one's dwindling spirits. But I got YOU.... and YOU appear to

work at my local hospital by talking DOWN to me, scoffing at my suggestions,

telling me what to do and how to do it, MOCKING me... when actually you haven't

answered a single question that I posed. I assume that you simply like to read

your own useless information.

The saying is NOT " TWO BITS " . That would be a QUARTER. And THAT is MY two cents.

[Guest guest]

Um nope…no platinum group metal

concentrates here (rather a liking to black sand beaches)…

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Ed Botting

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011

5:28 PM

Subject: Re:

[ ] Re: 3rd Day of MMS - Flutters UNDER Liver

Hello,

.

Sounds like a severe regimen.

My email is to ask about your email address, as it may be that you

could be a source for Platinum Group Metal concentrate " black sand "

in multi-tonne quantities.

If this makes no sense to you, then I have wasted you time and I

apologize, but if it does make sense, then I may have a buyer.

Appreciated,

Ed.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:12 PM, <blacksands@...> wrote:

Thanks for this information – I’m going to

schedule it in the near future!

Question… on day 5 – do you eat normally?

And is that AFTER the 8am Epsom salt solution?

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Monkeyron

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011

1:09 PM

Subject:

[ ] Re: 3rd Day of MMS - Flutters UNDER Liver

OK,

You seem to be Guessing at this Point. My 22 yo Daughter does the Same thing

always. Stop!

Worms? Did you

see them in the BM?

Worms in the

Brain?

OK, Stop again.

Next you should do a Liver Detox. Your Liver is your Body's filter. So lets get

it healthy and working good. The following is a suggested Liver Detox but you

should also do more to help regenerate your Liver.

Five day liver cleanse.

It is best to have day 4 on a Saturday or at a time when you are staying at

home.

Day 1: Drink 1 liter (4 cups) of apple juice during the day. Eat as normal

otherwise.

Day 2: Drink another liter of apple juice. Eat normally

Day 3: Drink a 3rd liter of apple juice. Eat normally

Day 4: Do not take any sold food after lunch time

6pm - Take one level tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water

8pm - Take another tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water. You may find

that you already have to take a trip to the toilet before the 8pm Epsom salt.

10pm - Mix one half glass of olive oil and three quarter glass of freshly

squeezed grape fruit juice by shaking it very well in a jar with a lid so that

it mixes well. Drink it down and immediately get into bed after drinking the

mixture. You will probably make more than one trip to the toilet during the

night as well as during the next day.

Day 5:

6am: Take another tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water

8am: Take one final tablespoon of Epsom salt in a glass of water.

You will find that many gallstones from the liver will be passed and one will

notice them in the toilet. They will vary in size from about pin head size to

10mm. Gallstones in the liver are a major cause of many health problems.

The above liver cleanse can be repeated every month until one finds that for

two months in succession no more gallstones are passed. The liver will then be

clean.

Source: s Moritz's book ' " The liver and gallbladder miracle

cleanse " which you can download from his site at www.ener-chi.com

Then maybe do the MMS Protocol for the Suggested time and see what happens.

Maybe try many other Protocols as well but just one at a time. If you are

loaded up with Pathogens, then you will end up with a large die off and become

even more Ill. This is called the Herxheimer effect.

That's my 2 bits.

M~R

>

> HELLO, my first ever posting to a group. I've read so much helpful info at

this group, but I am not finding anything posted that is similar to what I'm

experiencing. I am a NEWBIE & only dosing at 2 drops every hour 6 times

daily. I plan on starting 3 drops tomorrow, my 4th day.

>

> I have a bucket full of symptoms, no diagnosis. Not for want of trying. My

ER vitals keep coming back NORMAL,

when I am OBVIOUSLY very ill. FOUR visits this year. NOW they think I'm a

hypochondriac & pretty much mock me... so I given up on them as they have

me. STINKS, but that's life.

>

> I initially thought I had hypothyroidism due to facial changes, hair loss,

bloating, constipation, muscle fatigue, etc. Extensive tests came back NORMAL,

4 times. Then I thought it might be Candida overgrowth. Similar symptoms.

Changed diet drastically. Took 3Lac Probiotics. Didn't feel any different.

Ordered MMS from eBay.

>

> I " thought " I was dying. At times, I still do. I am only 54

& gone from healthy & vibrant to one foot in the grave & the other

on a banana peel --- in ONE year's time. I've been unable to work due to

extreme weakness & brain fog, etc. So, we are broke. Thankful to find MMS for

only $14. Did ONE drop 6 times throughout day ONE & TWO. Today was 2 drops.

Close to the end of all 3 days, I feel what can only be described as a FLUTTER

under my liver. 10-15 minutes, then it goes away.

>

> I had HEP.B in 1977, so I know where my liver is... thinking it might be

stones or flukes??? Also when I lie on either side to attempt sleep, I feel

SOMETHING moving inside me. Not normal gut movements or gas. Also the flutters

under the liver resume.

>

> For the past 10 days, my bowels have been crazy non-productive. I was

passing identifiable undigested food, when I could go. Started shredding

veggies & cooking them to a mushy state. Eating very little now. Food hurts

in my tummy. Gone from 224# to 189# in one month. This can't continue much

longer.

>

> Last night & tonight, I had a few explosive episodes of a liquid that

I would describe as BILE??? Yellowish-orange-brown liquid, not much odor to it.

Not much volume either. Just has to come out of me & won't wait. Thankful

to be home!!!

>

> My thoughts are WORMS

& /or FLUKES, maybe several types??? The moving below my diaphragm seems to

be active shortly after eating anything. The flutters never happened before

MMS. I've read that one can buy the DOG WORMER, Praziquantel OTC. Same as what

Dr's prescribed for a fraction of the cost, under $10. Found dosage online:

25mg p.o. t.i.d.(3x daily) for 2 days. Says it works on Flukes & Tapeworms.

>

> The part that spooks me is the warning about worms in your BRAIN and how

some seriously bad results can happen. Or else I'd have already done this.

Don't think I have any of those symptoms... but one never knows.

>

> Does anyone have any experience with WORMS

& /or FLUKES??? HELP please. I am so tired of sick & tired. It has just

about done me in and no one believes that I am sick. Feeling very alone.

>

--

Ed Botting

+1-214-330-9955

Skype: e.botting

I consider my life worth nothing to me, if only I may finish the race and

complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the

gospel of God's grace. Acts 20:24 Holy Bible - NIV

God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by

whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. Galatians

6:10 Holy Bible - KJV

Jesus Christ Said,

" I am the Way, the Truth and the Life.

No man comes to the Father but by Me. "

[Guest guest]

Hopefully you will get the answer your are hoping to get.

No I don't work at Your Hospital.

Apple Juice feeds Candida? I will need to remember that.

Please Don't do anything I suggested.

After all, it's has worked for so many but it may not for you.

I did not write the Book.

I did not Build Luella's Site.

If you don't get the answers you so desire, what will you do?

I guess you will take the Doggy meds and see what happens?

Good luck on your quest,

M~R

>

> Hey Monkeyron,

>

> Check it out... I'm FIFTY-FOUR. Not a child. Not your child. YES, I am

GUESSING. That is all that is left for me to do since the medical community has

let me down FOUR times. LIVER FLUKES do not show up in one's stool. And seldom

do tapeworms as they are DIGESTED once they die and appear as normal fecal

matter in the toilet.

>

> Your LIVER DETOX recipe is not on my agenda. APPLE JUICE will only FEED the

Candida, so NO. Then you say to take enough Epsom Salt to give a full grown

ELEPHANT the shitz, so NO. I am eating only about a cup of SOUP daily. Anything

more solid HURTS my stomach, doesn't get digested and takes 3-4 days to come of

me. I've read many recipes online and they all seem to follow this general path.

I will stick with the MMS for now, as it seems to be clearing the way. When I

feel a bit stronger, I will consider a Liver Cleanse. I have only enough

strength to get from the computer to the bathroom.

>

> I was LOOKING for a response from someone that has been through a de-worming

procedure. Someone that has first hand knowledge about what it FEELS like to

have a tapeworm. I am NOT getting any nourishment at present, MAL-ABSORPTION. I

am taking a sub-lingual B Complex to help.

>

> I was under the impression that we are all here to HELP one another??? To

share insight, bolster one's dwindling spirits. But I got YOU.... and YOU appear

to work at my local hospital by talking DOWN to me, scoffing at my suggestions,

telling me what to do and how to do it, MOCKING me... when actually you haven't

answered a single question that I posed. I assume that you simply like to read

your own useless information.

>

> The saying is NOT " TWO BITS " . That would be a QUARTER. And THAT is MY two

cents.

>

[Guest guest]

SUGAR feeds yeast & fungus. A basic fundamental of Candida. Can't even take a

Acidopholus or Bifidus with maltodextrin in it. We're done.

-------------------------

If Candida is a confirmed problem, then don't use any refined Sugar.

Some Sugar from some Fruits are very beneficial.

MMS or the Beck Protocol should help eliminate Candida.

I'm Done too.

M~R

> >

> > Hey Monkeyron,

> >

> > Check it out... I'm FIFTY-FOUR. Not a child. Not your child. YES, I am

GUESSING. That is all that is left for me to do since the medical community has

let me down FOUR times. LIVER FLUKES do not show up in one's stool. And seldom

do tapeworms as they are DIGESTED once they die and appear as normal fecal

matter in the toilet.

> >

> > Your LIVER DETOX recipe is not on my agenda. APPLE JUICE will only FEED the

Candida, so NO. Then you say to take enough Epsom Salt to give a full grown

ELEPHANT the shitz, so NO. I am eating only about a cup of SOUP daily. Anything

more solid HURTS my stomach, doesn't get digested and takes 3-4 days to come of

me. I've read many recipes online and they all seem to follow this general path.

I will stick with the MMS for now, as it seems to be clearing the way. When I

feel a bit stronger, I will consider a Liver Cleanse. I have only enough

strength to get from the computer to the bathroom.

> >

> > I was LOOKING for a response from someone that has been through a de-worming

procedure. Someone that has first hand knowledge about what it FEELS like to

have a tapeworm. I am NOT getting any nourishment at present, MAL-ABSORPTION. I

am taking a sub-lingual B Complex to help.

> >

> > I was under the impression that we are all here to HELP one another??? To

share insight, bolster one's dwindling spirits. But I got YOU.... and YOU appear

to work at my local hospital by talking DOWN to me, scoffing at my suggestions,

telling me what to do and how to do it, MOCKING me... when actually you haven't

answered a single question that I posed. I assume that you simply like to read

your own useless information.

> >

> > The saying is NOT " TWO BITS " . That would be a QUARTER. And THAT is MY two

cents.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

DeB ,

You asked for opinions and help.But you bit this first guys head off . It

would take a very brave soul to offer any advice to you after that.

Good health to you.

IN TX

>

> Hey Monkeyron,

>

> Check it out... I'm FIFTY-FOUR. Not a child. Not your child. YES, I am

GUESSING. That is all that is left for me to do since the medical community has

let me down FOUR times. LIVER FLUKES do not show up in one's stool. And seldom

do tapeworms as they are DIGESTED once they die and appear as normal fecal

matter in the toilet.

>

> Your LIVER DETOX recipe is not on my agenda. APPLE JUICE will only FEED the

Candida, so NO. Then you say to take enough Epsom Salt to give a full grown

ELEPHANT the shitz, so NO. I am eating only about a cup of SOUP daily. Anything

more solid HURTS my stomach, doesn't get digested and takes 3-4 days to come of

me. I've read many recipes online and they all seem to follow this general path.

I will stick with the MMS for now, as it seems to be clearing the way. When I

feel a bit stronger, I will consider a Liver Cleanse. I have only enough

strength to get from the computer to the bathroom.

>

> I was LOOKING for a response from someone that has been through a de-worming

procedure. Someone that has first hand knowledge about what it FEELS like to

have a tapeworm. I am NOT getting any nourishment at present, MAL-ABSORPTION. I

am taking a sub-lingual B Complex to help.

>

> I was under the impression that we are all here to HELP one another??? To

share insight, bolster one's dwindling spirits. But I got YOU.... and YOU appear

to work at my local hospital by talking DOWN to me, scoffing at my suggestions,

telling me what to do and how to do it, MOCKING me... when actually you haven't

answered a single question that I posed. I assume that you simply like to read

your own useless information.

>

> The saying is NOT " TWO BITS " . That would be a QUARTER. And THAT is MY two

cents.

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I have tried becks protocol to some extent. I have the beck device

and the homemade lymph pulser. I had no ozone access as I have now.

To my knowledge I did not receive the same type of obvious results as I

did when i stumbled across it doing my other therapies. I don't know

why the zapper did what the beck device did not as they are so similar

or maybe it was just fortuitous timing.

But after I saw that I did have parasites, I continued full force with

rifing and herbals and such..

all have had various degrees of results. I have been too chicken to

drink ozonated water yet. :-)

I have limited that to rectal , vaginal insufflation and ozonated olive

oil.

medusa.

On 02/24/2011 10:35 AM, Ron wrote:

Medusa,

Have you tried the complete Bob Beck Protocol?

I thought this was having good results in the way of Eliminating

Parasites?

Just wondering?

M~R

On 2/24/2011 6:18 AM, medusa569 wrote:

[Guest guest]

BLESS YOUR HEART!!!!!!! DeB

> >

> >> HELLO, my first ever posting to a group. I've read so much helpful info at

this group, but I am not finding anything posted that is similar to what I'm

experiencing. I am a NEWBIE & only dosing at 2 drops every hour 6 times daily. I

plan on starting 3 drops tomorrow, my 4th day.<snip> Does anyone have any

experience with WORMS & /or FLUKES??? HELP please. I am so tired of sick & tired.

It has just about done me in and no one believes that I am sick. Feeling very

alone.

> >>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Debbie.

I have seen shows on Discovery or National Geographic similar to yours,

a while ago. Some guys became terribly sick and nobody could help them,

until finally they have found a doctor who was a specialist on worms and

other parasites in the human body. These were individual stories and the

pictures were horrifying. I cannot tell you more details, because I

don't remember. Perhaps, search for this shows on the web sites of these

channels and you might find something.

Wish you all the best and recovery.

Laszlo

[Guest guest]

Excellent suggestion. I'm off to youtube right now!!!

Bless you for that gem of an idea,

DeB

>

> Debbie.

>

> I have seen shows on Discovery or National Geographic similar to yours,

> a while ago. Some guys became terribly sick and nobody could help them,

> until finally they have found a doctor who was a specialist on worms and

> other parasites in the human body. These were individual stories and the

> pictures were horrifying. I cannot tell you more details, because I

> don't remember. Perhaps, search for this shows on the web sites of these

> channels and you might find something.

> Wish you all the best and recovery.

>

> Laszlo

>

[Guest guest]

If you are going to do the prO-biotics,  then don't forget the prE-biotics :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prebiotic_%28nutrition%29

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:14 AM, moccachino10 <beautifulday65@...> wrote:

 

Deb,

Good to hear you are feeling better, keep pumping those greens in they can do amazing things for the system.

These couple of videos on DMSO that really opened up my eyes and thought process and the light bulb kind of when on as to how I could utilize it in my life to supercharge stuff like herbs and extracts. How I could heal scarring, not only external but the potential for healing internal injuries or old injuries torn muscles etc. How this could improve massage as well.

There are 3 videos in this one and they are very interesting and also amazing.

Oh and these ones that Vitalis has done really opened up my mind also as to the uses and how I can fast track things like tinctures and extracts into the body.

there are 2 videos.

We never stop learning no matter how old we get.

Enjoy

>

> Lots of info... lots to consider. I have no knowledge of DMSO other than what I've seen on posts. I've heard that Tractor Supply sells it in the farm animal section???

>

> I feel a bit better this evening, eyes still jaundice. Got 20 minutes of sunshine today. I quite MILK when my tongue got swollen & itchy 2 wks ago from drinking it. Spooky stuff... took benadryl, it passed in a couple of hours.

>

> I got a piece of baked chicken & some steamed kale into me tonight. That is the MOST I've eaten in weeks. So far, so good... time will tell.

>

> I got up to 4 drops of MMS every hour for 5 hours today. It was a bit much. Got the TROTZ, as my little Granny used to say. So tomorrow I will stay at 3 drops.

>

> Thank you for all of the helpful insight on DMSO. I am learning TOO MUCH TOO FAST. But surely some of it will STICK in my foggy brain???

>

> Bless you and thank you so very much,

>

> DeB

-- Ed Botting+1-214-330-9955Skype: e.bottingI consider my life worth nothing to me, if only I may finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the gospel of God's grace. Acts 20:24  Holy Bible - NIV

God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.  Galatians 6:10  Holy Bible - KJVJesus Christ Said, " I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man comes to the Father but by Me. "

[Guest guest]

Good post Ed:)

> > >

> > > Lots of info... lots to consider. I have no knowledge of DMSO other than

> > what I've seen on posts. I've heard that Tractor Supply sells it in the farm

> > animal section???

> > >

> > > I feel a bit better this evening, eyes still jaundice. Got 20 minutes of

> > sunshine today. I quite MILK when my tongue got swollen & itchy 2 wks ago

> > from drinking it. Spooky stuff... took benadryl, it passed in a couple of

> > hours.

> > >

> > > I got a piece of baked chicken & some steamed kale into me tonight. That

> > is the MOST I've eaten in weeks. So far, so good... time will tell.

> > >

> > > I got up to 4 drops of MMS every hour for 5 hours today. It was a bit

> > much. Got the TROTZ, as my little Granny used to say. So tomorrow I will

> > stay at 3 drops.

> > >

> > > Thank you for all of the helpful insight on DMSO. I am learning TOO MUCH

> > TOO FAST. But surely some of it will STICK in my foggy brain???

> > >

> > > Bless you and thank you so very much,

> > >

> > > DeB

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> --

> Ed Botting

> +1-214-330-9955

> Skype: e.botting

>

> I consider my life worth nothing to me, if only I may finish the race and

> complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the

> gospel of God's grace. Acts 20:24 Holy Bible - NIV

>

> God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ,

> by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. Galatians

> 6:10 Holy Bible - KJV

>

> Jesus Christ Said,

> " I am the Way, the Truth and the Life.

> No man comes to the Father but by Me. "

>