Re: Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Hello Humberto,

MSM neutralizes MMS just like an antioxidant does.

Here are some tests that I ran.

The first test used chlorous acid (MMS). In 1 liter of water, I added 1000 mg

of MSM and I started with 0.88 ml (15 drops) of MMS activated with 0.88 ml of

10% citric acid. I let the activation continue for 10 minutes before adding

this mixture to the MSM solution. In 1 liter of water this produces about 120

PPM available chlorine dioxide with about 24 PPM of that as free chlorine

dioxide. When this was added to the MSM solution, there was no indication of

any free chlorine dioxide initially, or after 4 hours of sitting on the counter.

I then mixed up a chlorine dioxide solution of 120 PPM. I put 4 ml of 5% sodium

chlorite in a glass and activated it with 4 ml of 6% hydrochloric acid. I then

added this to the 1 liter of water that had 1000 mg MSM dissolved in it. When I

measured the free chlorine dioxide it was 10 PPM. After waiting 4 hours the

concentration of chlorine dioxide remained at about 10 PPM, so that would

indicate that all of the antioxidant capability of the MSM could have been used

up.

I repeated each of these tests 4 times and the results were consistent each

time.

The first test indicates that with acidified sodium chlorite technology (MMS)

the addition of MSM reduces the chlorine dioxide from 24 PPM down to 0 PPM, and

the remaining chlorous acid solution does not recover to produce measurable

chlorine dioxide over a period of 4 hours.

The second test involved chlorine dioxide technology. The initial concentration

of 120 PPM chlorine dioxide was reduced to 10 PPM when it came into contact with

the MSM. This is about a 92% reduction in chlorine dioxide.

The addition of MSM to MMS does eliminate 92% of the odor and taste, but it does

so by neutralizing the chlorine dioxide in the solution.

Tom

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Hi Tom,what you have writen below is very interesting. However I would be grateful if you eventually have an answer to me about if DMSO and Colloid silver are neutralizing the effect of MMS chlorine dioxid like with MSM?/Jean-ClaudeFrom: silverfox_science <poast@...> Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011

3:46:06 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Hello Humberto, MSM neutralizes MMS just like an antioxidant does. Here are some tests that I ran. The first test used chlorous acid (MMS). In 1 liter of water, I added 1000 mg of MSM and I started with 0.88 ml (15 drops) of MMS activated with 0.88 ml of 10% citric acid. I let the activation continue for 10 minutes before adding this mixture to the MSM solution. In 1 liter of water this produces about 120 PPM available chlorine dioxide with about 24 PPM of that as

free chlorine dioxide. When this was added to the MSM solution, there was no indication of any free chlorine dioxide initially, or after 4 hours of sitting on the counter. I then mixed up a chlorine dioxide solution of 120 PPM. I put 4 ml of 5% sodium chlorite in a glass and activated it with 4 ml of 6% hydrochloric acid. I then added this to the 1 liter of water that had 1000 mg MSM dissolved in it. When I measured the free chlorine dioxide it was 10 PPM. After waiting 4 hours the concentration of chlorine dioxide remained at about 10 PPM, so that would indicate that all of the antioxidant capability of the MSM could have been used up. I repeated each of these tests 4 times and the results were consistent each time. The first test indicates that with acidified sodium chlorite technology (MMS) the addition of MSM reduces the chlorine dioxide from 24 PPM down to 0 PPM, and the remaining chlorous acid solution does not

recover to produce measurable chlorine dioxide over a period of 4 hours. The second test involved chlorine dioxide technology. The initial concentration of 120 PPM chlorine dioxide was reduced to 10 PPM when it came into contact with the MSM. This is about a 92% reduction in chlorine dioxide. The addition of MSM to MMS does eliminate 92% of the odor and taste, but it does so by neutralizing the chlorine dioxide in the solution. Tom > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylsulfonylmethane > > Where does it say, It is an Anti Oxidant >

I have used the mix and it works very well. > > > Reciba un saludo afectuoso > > de su amigo > > L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B. > > 33-3685-0463 > > 333-8150-542 > > HROJAS1206@... >

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I would always give a 2 hour window with silver.

http://jimhumble.biz/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=11 & Itemid=31

Similarly, molecular silver solution that has produced very good results. Some

people use this two hours after MMS doses to speed or supplement the MMS

germicidal benefits. Molecular silver is superior to most colloidal silver

because it is manufactured with high volages and is much higher in germicidal

action. A search on the Internet will direct you to suppliers that have these

products.

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> > Where does it say, It is an Anti Oxidant

> > I have used the mix and it works very well.

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> > Recibaunsaludoafectuoso

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> > desu amigo

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> > L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B.

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If treating cancer give a 10 min window, for silver.http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC_04_Elements.html2) MSM (And How All of the Products Work Together)MSM (methyl sulfonyl methane) is a close molecular cousin of DMSO. Once inside the body, whether you take DMSO or MSM, the body seeks an equilibrium of DMSO and MSM. Both DMSO and MSM can be hard on the stomach if taken orally. This is why doses of these items are frequently started out small and gradually increased (i.e. a "build up"). A "build-up" allows the stomach to get used to these items.So why would a person take DMSO instead of MSM or vice versa? DMSO "opens up" the cancer cells so other molecules can get inside of the cancer cells. It also "carries" certain molecules with it inside the cancer cells.In this protocol DMSO is used with chlorine dioxide because it is known that chlorine dioxide binds to DMSO and can still kill microbes on contact. The DMSO will allow the chlorine dioxide to better target the cancer cells.Colloidal silver is taken about 10 minutes after the DMSO and chlorine dioxide. This is so that some of the colloidal silver will be able to get inside the cancer cells and also kill some microbes inside of cancer cells.The main purpose of the MSM is to keep DMSO from breaking down into MSM. The main job of the colloidal silver is to keep the bloodstream clean of microbes so that the DMSO and chlorine dioxide pair is not used up by killing microbes in the bloodstream. Nevertheless, hopefully, some of the colloidal silver should get inside the cancer cells via the DMSO opening up the cancer cells.It is never good to buy MSM in pill form. The reason is that in order to get the MSM inside the pills, chemicals are used to prevent the MSM from clumping together. These chemicals may neutralize the effectiveness of MSM.Thus, MSM should be bought as crystals or granules and then mixed with water before consuming.It is always best to use glass jars or glass jugs when making and using MSM. You will need one, half-gallon glass jar or jug. You may be able to buy something (such as high quality milk or juice) at a grocery store in a glass bottle (either a gallon jug or a half-gallon jug), in the milk section. Be careful not to buy a plastic jug which looks like it is glass. Thump the container with your finger to make sure it is real glass.Here is how you make a 1/2 gallon jug of "MSM Water":1) PUT 5 or 6 TABLEspoons of MSM granules into the half-gallon glass jug,2) Put a half-gallon of DISTILLED water in your glass jug, but3) LEAVE about 2 inches of air at the top of the jug so that the jar can be shaken to mix the MSM granules,It will take about half-an-hour for the MSM to totally dissolve in the water. Shake the jug every few minutes until it is totally dissolved and there are no particles which settle at the bottom of the jug. In addition, always shake the bottle just before using it.This is the "MSM Water" which will be referred to in this treatment.You will be taking one TABLEspoon of "MSM water" (NOT the MSM crystals) each hour. Practitioners commonly recommend the use of 20 to 30 grams of MSM a day and sometimes more. This protocol will use about 15 grams total of MSM during the OCC day. Each tablespoon of MSM water is about 0.6 grams.The build-up of MSM is described in the next chapter.Several books have been written about MSM. Among them are:MSM - The Definitive Guide, by Stanley W. , M.D., F.A.C.S. and Appleton, N.D.The Miracle of MSM - The Natural Solution For Pain, by Stanley W. Jabob, M.D., M. Lawrence, M.D., Ph.D., and ZuckerThe Power of MSM, by Dr. Earl MindellThe MSM Miracle, Enhance Your Health With Organic Sulfur (a pamphlet), by Earl L. Mindell, R.Ph., Ph.D.Methyl Magic - Maximum Health Through Methylation, by Craig Cooney, Ph.D. with Bill LawrenMSM and Mineral Ascorbates (The True Vitamin C) (a pamphlet), by Beth M. Ley s, PhDMSM: On Our Way Back To Health with Sulfur!, by Beth M. Ley s, PhDFor general use, beyond cancer, MSM is a superb supplement because it contains two extra oxygen atoms, sulphur and a methyl group. All of these are critical for our health.3) Colloidal SilverTaking the colloidal silver is the easiest part of this treatment. All you have to do is take two TABLEspoons of this product every hour, if you weight 150 pounds or more. If you weight less than 150 pounds, take a proportionally smaller dose of colloidal silver. Colloidal silver is not hard on the stomach.You could put the two TABLEspoons in a glass of water, if you desire.The brand I strongly recommend is called "ASAP Plus." ASAP Plus is 22 ppm (parts per million) of very high quality colloidal silver. Do NOT be deceived by the seemingly low ppm for this product. This product is far more effective at killing microbes than any other type of colloidal silver I know of!! It is used to kill the deadliest bacteria on earth!!This product comes in different size bottles. It is recommended to buy 6 of the 8 ounce bottles. You will have a little left over for future needs (e.g. the flu). A vendor will be mentioned later.(Note: There are other brands of colloidal silver which may be as potent, or even more potent, than ASAP Plus. The reason I recommend ASAP Plus is because its safety at the doses in this protocol are very well established as being safe.)4) Chlorine Dioxide"Stabilized Oxygen," or "sodium chlorite," (not to be confused with sodium chloride, which is common table salt) has been used in alternative medicine for several decades and has been mentioned in many scientific journals.Stabilized oxygen has been used primarily to prevent viral infections, such as colds and the flu, and to treat allergies.However, it was Jim Humble who figured out it was better to "activate" the sodium chlorite into an even more powerful microbe-killing substance: chlorine dioxide (CD).Jim's initial discovery was somewhat of an accident. Two of his associates came down with malaria. Being deep in the jungle Jim only had one thing to treat them: stabilized oxygen, which he had brought along with him to purify his drinking water.Using nothing but stabilized oxygen, both of his associates were cured of malaria deep in the jungles of Guyana. However, not everyone Jim later gave the stabilized oxygen to was cured, but most were.When Jim got back to America he started researching why several people had been cured of malaria. His conclusion was that part of the sodium chlorite was chemically converted into chlorine dioxide and that it was the chlorine dioxide which actually cured the malaria.After more research, Jim settled on using 15 drops of chlorine dioxide, followed one hour later by another 15 drops, to cure malaria. AIDS/HIV can also be cured with chlorine dioxide, though the administration of chlorine dioxide is vastly different.Actually, chlorine dioxide is created by mixing sodium chlorite with an "activator." The formula is one drop of sodium chlorite with five drops of the activator.Normal stabilized oxygen (e.g. Vitamin O, Aerobic O7 or Aerobic KO7) is usually between 3% and 7% sodium chlorite. However, Jim developed a product (which he does NOT sell) which is 28% sodium chlorite and he calls it the "Miracle Mineral Supplement" or MMS.Do not confuse MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement) with MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) which is a natural molecule found in nature. Both MMS and MSM are part of this treatment, so keep them apart in your mind.The reason MMS is 28% sodium chlorite is so that it will react more readily to the "activator," meaning less of the activator will be needed per drop of MMS as compared to a product like Aerobic O7.Vendors may sell bottles which recommend adding MMS to some form of vinegar as the activator. DO NOT USE VINEGAR AS AN ACTIVATOR WITH MMS!!! Vinegar can actually feed yeast infections.> > >> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylsulfonylmethane> > > > > > Where does it say, It is an Anti Oxidant> > > I have used the mix and it works very well.> > > > > > > > > Recibaunsaludoafectuoso> > > > > > desu amigo> > > > > > L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B.> > > > > > 33-3685-0463> > > > > > 333-8150-542> > > > > > HROJAS1206@> > >> >>

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Thanks a lot "healinghope" for your information. It's exactely what I was searching after about silver solution./JCFrom: healinghope <mfrreman@...> Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 9:42:36 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Methylsulfonylmethane -

Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I would always give a 2 hour window with silver.

http://jimhumble.biz/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=11 & Itemid=31

Similarly, molecular silver solution that has produced very good results. Some people use this two hours after MMS doses to speed or supplement the MMS germicidal benefits. Molecular silver is superior to most colloidal silver because it is manufactured with high volages and is much higher in germicidal action. A search on the Internet will direct you to suppliers that have these products.

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> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylsulfonylmethane

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> > Where does it say, It is an Anti Oxidant

> > I have used the mix and it works very well.

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> > Recibaunsaludoafectuoso

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> > desu amigo

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> > L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B.

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> > 33-3685-0463

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> > 333-8150-542

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> > HROJAS1206@

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Hello Jean-Claude,

It appears that both colloidal silver and DMSO use up some of the chlorine

dioxide in solution, but not as much as MSM does.

Starting with 0.88 ml (15 drops) of MMS and activating it with 0.88 ml 10%

citric acid, I ended up with 1 liter that had 240 PPM available chlorine dioxide

and about 24 PPM of that as free chlorine dioxide.

The first test involved adding 10 ml of colloidal silver to the liter of

solution. This dropped the free chlorine dioxide to 20 PPM. So colloidal

silver used up around 16% of the free chlorine dioxide.

The next test involved adding 10 ml of 90% DMSO. This time the free chlorine

dioxide dropped to 6 PPM. This is a reduction in free chlorine dioxide of

around 75%.

What was interesting was that neither solution recovered to its original

concentration of free chlorine dioxide over a period of 4 hours. This would

suggest that not only was the free chlorine dioxide effected, but also the

chlorous acid.

The colloidal silver is home made that comes in at around 15 PPM, then it was

concentrated to 30 PPM. This is used for topical applications.

Even though the colloidal silver only had a minor reaction with the chlorous

acid, I don't think I would recommend this combination be mixed together. I am

not sure what changes happened with the colloidal silver. Since sodium chlorite

is in the salt family, it could be similar to adding salt to colloidal silver.

Tom

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> Hi Tom,

>

> what you have writen below is very interesting. However I would be grateful if

> you eventually have an answer to me about if DMSO and Colloid silver are

> neutralizing the effect of MMS chlorine dioxid like with MSM?

>

> /Jean-Claude

>

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Hello Tom,

Good work!

I like your Test & Results.

Now the test-Colloidal Silver (CS) added to the MMS Activated Solution, would

seem that the Silver was Oxidized by the free Chlorine therefore causing the 16%

reduction of free chlorine. Also I would assume the Same loss applies to the PPM

of CS.

Also adding CS to sodium chlorite just might be closer to ending up with Silver

Chloride which is a Bad thing. I'm no Chemist but I would not mix the CS until

we get a Confirmation on this.

Any Chemist in Da House?

I will ask one I know in another Group.

M~R

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> > Hi Tom,

> >

> > what you have writen below is very interesting. However I would be grateful

if

> > you eventually have an answer to me about if DMSO and Colloid silver are

> > neutralizing the effect of MMS chlorine dioxid like with MSM?

> >

> > /Jean-Claude

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Tom,I did read and reread about what you wrote below. I would like to get the answer if it's ok to mix MMS with Colloid Silver and DMSO ? Ok, it's dropping 16% to 75% of the free chlorine dioxide but why I can't find such of information on other web sites? Have you done yourself these tests ? Can I find yours investigation somewhere on the net?I thought Colloid Silver mixed with MMS is the best ....or have I really wrong in that case?If I take Colloid Silver instead of distilled water when I mix with citric acid, it should function or not?If I want cure skin cancer, can I use MMS mix with citric acid mixed with Colloid Silver and little of DMSO for to directly apply om the skin, is it ok to do so?Are you really sure DMSO reduces 75% of the free chlorine dioxide

in MMS?/Jean-ClaudeFrom: silverfox_science <poast@...> Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 11:59:58 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Hello Jean-Claude, It appears that both colloidal silver and DMSO use up some of the chlorine dioxide in solution, but not as much as MSM does. Starting with 0.88 ml (15 drops) of MMS and activating it with 0.88 ml 10% citric acid, I ended up with 1 liter that had 240 PPM available chlorine dioxide and about 24 PPM of that as free chlorine dioxide. The first test involved adding 10 ml of colloidal silver to the liter of solution. This dropped the free chlorine dioxide to 20 PPM. So colloidal silver used up around 16% of the free chlorine dioxide. The next test involved adding 10 ml of 90% DMSO. This time the free chlorine dioxide dropped to 6 PPM. This is a reduction in free chlorine dioxide of around 75%. What was interesting was that neither solution recovered to its original concentration

of free chlorine dioxide over a period of 4 hours. This would suggest that not only was the free chlorine dioxide effected, but also the chlorous acid. The colloidal silver is home made that comes in at around 15 PPM, then it was concentrated to 30 PPM. This is used for topical applications. Even though the colloidal silver only had a minor reaction with the chlorous acid, I don't think I would recommend this combination be mixed together. I am not sure what changes happened with the colloidal silver. Since sodium chlorite is in the salt family, it could be similar to adding salt to colloidal silver. Tom > > Hi Tom, > > what you have writen

below is very interesting. However I would be grateful if > you eventually have an answer to me about if DMSO and Colloid silver are > neutralizing the effect of MMS chlorine dioxid like with MSM? > > /Jean-Claude >

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Hello Jean-Claude,

Not only did I run the tests, but I gave precise instructions on how to run the

test yourself so you can verify the results.

Chlorine dioxide test strips are available at www.coleparmer.com .

As far as mixing chemicals goes, if your solution is too strong, adding

colloidal silver will reduce the chlorine dioxide concentration a little, and

adding DMSO will reduce it a lot. Of course it is easier to reduce the

concentration by dilution or using less chemicals to start with.

Skin cancer is tough. I think chlorine dioxide works better than chlorous acid.

Chlorine dioxide is a biocide where chlorous acid is a biostat. MMS forms

chlorous acid. When using chlorine dioxide there is no need to use DMSO because

chlorine dioxide has no problem penetrating the skin and we believe it actually

penetrates the bone below the skin.

The problem with chlorine dioxide is that it attacks the collagen in the skin of

the surrounding tissue. It is difficult to limit the exposure to only the

cancer. If you can withstand the extra oxidative damage, chlorine dioxide is a

good way to go. On the other hand, ozone is a little more friendly to the

surrounding tissue as long as you pay attention to the concentration you are

using. Colloidal silver is also very effective against skin cancer, and does

not seem to damage any of the surrounding tissue. Take some gauze the size of

the cancer lesion, soak it in colloidal silver and tape it over the infected

area. Change it out every 2 hours during the day, and sleep with a similar

bandage on throughout the night. Using home made colloidal silver it is not

unusual to see a vast improvement in 3 - 5 days.

Tom

--- In , jc sek <jcseeksyou@...>

wrote:

>

> Hello Tom,

>

> I did read and reread about what you wrote below. I would like to get the

answer

> if it's ok to mix MMS with Colloid Silver and DMSO ? Ok, it's dropping 16% to

> 75% of the free chlorine dioxide but why I can't find such of information on

> other web sites? Have you done yourself these tests ? Can I find yours

> investigation somewhere on the net?

>

> I thought Colloid Silver mixed with MMS is the best ....or have I really wrong

> in that case?

>

> If I take Colloid Silver instead of distilled water when I mix with citric

acid,

> it should function or not?

>

> If I want cure skin cancer, can I use MMS mix with citric acid mixed with

> Colloid Silver and little of DMSO for to directly apply om the skin, is it ok

to

> do so?

>

> Are you really sure DMSO reduces 75% of the free chlorine dioxide in MMS?

>

> /Jean-Claude

>

>

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Jean-Claude Here is the reference page I really wanted to share with you I just

came across in my library, in regards to silver usage and MMS.

http://mms-central.com/helpdesk2.htm

- May not work if you are using colloidal silver. Silver causes the ClO2 to be

used-up rapidly because it finds silver nicely scattered throughout the body

(which is normally good). The silver " wastes " the ClO2. Resume use of silver

after the MMS detoxification process is past - after 3 or 4 weeks. Similar,

vitamin C and antioxidants also neutralize ClO2 effectively. Resume " C " and

silver after the detox is accomplished.

- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

wrote:

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> I would always give a 2 hour window with silver.

> http://jimhumble.biz/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=11 & Itemid=31

> Similarly, molecular silver solution that has produced very good results. Some

people use this two hours after MMS doses to speed or supplement the MMS

germicidal benefits. Molecular silver is superior to most colloidal silver

because it is manufactured with high volages and is much higher in germicidal

action. A search on the Internet will direct you to suppliers that have these

products.

>

>

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> > >

> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylsulfonylmethane

> > >

> > > Where does it say, It is an Anti Oxidant

> > > I have used the mix and it works very well.

> > >

> > >

> > > Recibaunsaludoafectuoso

> > >

> > > desu amigo

> > >

> > > L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B.

> > >

> > > 33-3685-0463

> > >

> > > 333-8150-542

> > >

> > > HROJAS1206@

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have checked with colloid silver and the information below is right. But my sister also has tried with nanosilver (nano sized < 10 nm) and I was very surprised over the healing effect against her skin cancer. She tried every other day the MMS protocol and nano silver protocol. Indeed never together at the same day. After three weeks she was completely healed from the skin cancer. Nano silver is NOT the same as colloid silver.If some of you in this forum who has experiences of nano silver together with MMS, please let us know your result.Thanks/JCFrom: healinghope <mfrreman@...> Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 8:23:58 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jean-Claude Here is the reference page I really wanted to share with you I just came across in my library, in regards to silver usage and MMS. http://mms-central.com/helpdesk2.htm - May not work if you are using colloidal silver. Silver causes the ClO2 to be used-up rapidly because it finds silver nicely scattered throughout the body (which is normally good). The silver "wastes" the ClO2. Resume use of silver after the MMS detoxification process is past - after 3 or 4 weeks. Similar, vitamin C and antioxidants also neutralize ClO2 effectively. Resume "C" and silver after the detox is accomplished. - In , "healinghope" <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > I would always give a 2 hour window with silver. > http://jimhumble.biz/index.php?option=com_content & view=article & id=11 & Itemid=31 > Similarly, molecular silver solution that has produced very good results. Some people use this two hours after MMS doses to speed or supplement the MMS germicidal benefits. Molecular silver is superior to most colloidal silver because it is manufactured with high volages and is much higher in germicidal action. A search on the Internet will direct you to suppliers that have these products. > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylsulfonylmethane > > > > > > Where does it say, It is an Anti Oxidant > > > I

have used the mix and it works very well. > > > > > > > > > Recibaunsaludoafectuoso > > > > > > desu amigo > > > > > > L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B. > > > > > > 33-3685-0463 > > > > > > 333-8150-542 > > > > > > HROJAS1206@ > > > > > >