Guest guest Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Hi there...I believe MSM is an antioxidant and MMS is an oxidant so in that sense they would cancel each other out. Here is info on using DMSO/MSM and Colloidal Silverhttp://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/DMSO_CS02.html"and the day came when the risk it took to remain in a tight blossom was more painful than the risk it took to bloom..." Anais NinFrom: jc sek <jcseeksyou@...>Subject: [ ] MSM MMS DMSO Colloid-silver Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 1:36 PM So, is MSM an anti-oxidant product or not? And why should I take MSM together with MMS? What is the benifice?And thanks Humberto for all your web links. It was very interesting to read the information.Can someone in this forum tell me WHY an anti oxidant neutralize MMS or chlorine dioxide? Also, I would like to know if someone has the experience of Colloid silver protocol together with MMS and DMSO protocol? Is it dangerous or not to take Colloid silver together with MMS and DMSO?Thanks/Jean-Claude From: HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...>Roseann Lawrence <rlawrence26@...>Cc: Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 9:32:52 PMSubject: Rv: [ ] Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia MSM2 parts of Oxigen ( Oxidant)2 part of Methyl1 part of Sulfur --- El sáb 29-ene-11, HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...> escribió:De: HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...>Asunto: [ ] Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaA: "Roseann Lawrence" <rlawrence26@...>Cc: Fecha: sábado, 29 de enero de 2011, 14:16 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MethylsulfonylmethaneWhere does it say, It is an Anti OxidantI have used the mix and it works very well.Reciba un saludo afectuoso de su amigo L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B. 33-3685-0463 333-8150-542 HROJAS1206@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 In people who cannot tolerate the smell and taste of MMS. Adding MSM, eliminates the smell and taste of MMS Reciba un saludo afectuoso de su amigo L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B. 33-3685-0463 333-8150-542 HROJAS1206@...--- El sáb 29-ene-11, jc sek <jcseeksyou@...> escribió:De: jc sek <jcseeksyou@...>Asunto: [ ] MSM MMS DMSO Colloid-silverA: Fecha: sábado, 29 de enero de 2011, 15:36 So, is MSM an anti-oxidant product or not? And why should I take MSM together with MMS? What is the benifice?And thanks Humberto for all your web links. It was very interesting to read the information.Can someone in this forum tell me WHY an anti oxidant neutralize MMS or chlorine dioxide? Also, I would like to know if someone has the experience of Colloid silver protocol together with MMS and DMSO protocol? Is it dangerous or not to take Colloid silver together with MMS and DMSO?Thanks/Jean-Claude From: HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...>Roseann Lawrence <rlawrence26@...>Cc: Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 9:32:52 PMSubject: Rv: [ ] Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia MSM2 parts of Oxigen ( Oxidant)2 part of Methyl1 part of Sulfur --- El sáb 29-ene-11, HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...> escribió:De: HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...>Asunto: [ ] Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaA: "Roseann Lawrence" <rlawrence26@...>Cc: Fecha: sábado, 29 de enero de 2011, 14:16 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MethylsulfonylmethaneWhere does it say, It is an Anti OxidantI have used the mix and it works very well.Reciba un saludo afectuoso de su amigo L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B. 33-3685-0463 333-8150-542 HROJAS1206@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I had the same question on whether msm is an anti-oxidant or not. This web site suggests it is. http://www.msm-info.com/#Antioxidant As a possibility, maybe your results would have been even better if you had not used the msm? > > From: jc sek <jcseeksyou@...> > Subject: [ ] MSM MMS DMSO Colloid-silver > > Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 1:36 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > So, is MSM an anti-oxidant product or not? And why should I take MSM together with MMS? What is the benifice? > > And thanks Humberto for all your web links. It was very interesting to read the information. > > Can someone in this forum tell me WHY an anti oxidant neutralize MMS or chlorine dioxide? > > Also, I would like to know if someone has the experience of Colloid silver protocol together with MMS and DMSO protocol? Is it dangerous or not to take Colloid silver together with MMS and DMSO? > > > Thanks > /Jean-Claude > > From: HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...> > Roseann Lawrence <rlawrence26@...> > Cc: > Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 9:32:52 PM > Subject: Rv: [ ] Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > >  > > MSM > 2 parts of Oxigen ( Oxidant) > 2 part of Methyl > 1 part of Sulfur > > --- El sáb 29-ene-11, HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...> escribió: > > De: HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...> > Asunto: [ ] Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > A: " Roseann Lawrence " <rlawrence26@...> > Cc: > > Fecha: sábado, 29 de enero de 2011, 14:16 > >   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylsulfonylmethane > > Where does it say, It is an Anti Oxidant > I have used the mix and it works very well. > > > Reciba un saludo afectuoso > de su amigo > L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B. > 33-3685-0463 > 333-8150-542 > HROJAS1206@... >  >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/DMSO_CD02.htmlI want to know if this treatment is wrong too.MSM and DMSO are of the same family.Reciba un saludo afectuoso de su amigo L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B. 33-3685-0463 333-8150-542 HROJAS1206@...--- El dom 30-ene-11, Wg49 <johnwg49@...> escribió:De: Wg49 <johnwg49@...>Asunto: [ ] Re: MSM MMS DMSO Colloid-silverA: Fecha: domingo, 30 de enero de 2011, 8:44 I had the same question on whether msm is an anti-oxidant or not. This web site suggests it is. http://www.msm-info.com/#Antioxidant As a possibility, maybe your results would have been even better if you had not used the msm? > > From: jc sek <jcseeksyou@...> > Subject: [ ] MSM MMS DMSO Colloid-silver > > Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 1:36 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > So, is MSM an anti-oxidant product or not? And why should I take MSM together with MMS? What is the benifice? > > And thanks Humberto for all your web links. It was very interesting to read the information. > > Can someone in this forum tell me WHY an anti oxidant neutralize MMS or chlorine dioxide? > > Also, I would like to know if someone has the experience of Colloid silver protocol together with MMS and DMSO protocol? Is it dangerous or not to take Colloid silver together with MMS and DMSO? > > > Thanks > /Jean-Claude > > From: HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...> > Roseann Lawrence <rlawrence26@...> > Cc: > Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 9:32:52 PM > Subject: Rv: [ ] Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > >  > > MSM > 2 parts of Oxigen ( Oxidant) > 2 part of Methyl > 1 part of Sulfur > > --- El sáb 29-ene-11, HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...> escribió: > > De: HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...> > Asunto: [ ] Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > A: "Roseann Lawrence" <rlawrence26@...> > Cc: > > Fecha: sábado, 29 de enero de 2011, 14:16 > >   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylsulfonylmethane > > Where does it say, It is an Anti Oxidant > I have used the mix and it works very well. > > > Reciba un saludo afectuoso > de su amigo > L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B. > 33-3685-0463 > 333-8150-542 > HROJAS1206@... >  >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Its not wrong. It's the OCC overnight cancer treatment. I have a friend who completed the 3rd and last round of the 12 hour Protocol. The only why you can satisfy your questions is to buy the books written by the experts. The people who have done work. Here is a link about DMSO. I sent this to a person who is directly involved with the Genesis church and Jim Hubble. That person forwarded and jim hubble answered it himself. My question was MMS2 and DMSO can it be mixed and i found the following and was not sure what it meant. pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/1995/AN/an9952001983 The aim of this work was to demonstrate that dimethylsulfoxide (DMSO) is an excellent masking agent for aqueous chlorine in the determination of other oxychlorines. By the addition of excess DMSO, specific absorbance of free chlorine disappeared, and the oxidation of iodide to iodine by chlorine was completely prevented. Chlorine dioxide, chlorite and chlorate were not affected by the co-existence of excess DMSO, but chlorosulfamic acid, showed results comparable to free chlorine. By using ion chromatographic analysis of the mixed solution of free chlorine and DMSO, chloride was recovered as the only anionic species and its molar concentration was approximately twice the initial chlorine concentration. DMSO seems to reduce and mask chlorine completely, without affecting other oxychlorines. Chlorine and DMSO reacted in the molar ratio of 1:1 The reaction seemed to be second-order. The rate constant was larger at a lower pH, and it was dependent not on a concentration of total chlorine, but on that of hypochlorous acid. The redox potential of DMSO was higher at a lower pH, and only hypochlorous acid would have a redox potential high enough to oxidize DMSO in acidic conditions. These results suggest that DMSO reacts with hypochlorous acid stoichiometrically. In practical use, DMSO may be successfully used as a masking agent for aqueous chlorine. The use of DMSO as a masking agent for Cl2 was investigated. Under neutral and acidic conditions, DMSO selectively reacted with free and combined Cl2 and did not affect oxychlorines such as chlorine dioxide (ClO2), chlorite and chlorate. The utility of DMSO as a masking agent for Cl2 was demonstrated by the titrimetric, voltammetric and spectrophotometric determination of various oxychlorines (mainly ClO2) in the presence of Cl2. The mechanism of the reaction between DMSO and Cl2 is also discussed.Jim's answer Bruce; Good to hear from you and thanks for all your hard work and dedication.... Very interesting pro and con articles (pasted below) regarding DMSO and MMS These are what we have learned: MMS2 has been first tested by medical doctors. As calcium hypochlorite. They used it extensively on injuries. It made the injuries heal faster than any other sterilizer or disinfectant as hypochlorous acid does not damage the injuried cells further as does all disinfectants. One group of medical doctors tested it on hundreds of accident victims in several hospitals. The data is available on the internet. I don't have time to look it up, but anyone can find it. I and my workers have been useing MMS2 (calcium hypochlorite, 1/2 teaspoon full in a glass of water for about a year with much good results on the skin. I have added DMSO personally to it when on my skin. I do not have any bad effects to report but then I didn't notice in great results either. I assume it is beneficial however. About the report that DMSO kills the chlorine, if that is true I think that is a great benefit as there are reports that small amounts of chlorine might be involved. Same reports of chlorine with MMS1 but if it is so it is a very small amount. As always with love, Bishop JimIf you make a study of stomach acid and Choline you will see it is the chemical reaction between the acid to that causes the small belch of chlorine gas when MMS1 is swallowed and mixes with the stomach acid. DMSO in itself is hard to tolerate on the 12hour OCC which is after the build up is 30 drops of DMSO,one hour apart for 12 hours , with the mix of MMS and 30minutes later the MSM water mix and the Silver, by the 4th hour, you will have healing reactions, You will feel old injuries become inflamed, spine, old scars, The inflammations are healing reactions, then detox is very important, Clay and coffee enema's. OCC says DMSO converts into the body to MSM over time. They say by supplementing the MSM it creates a delay barrier to this conversion of DMSO prolonging the penetrating effect of the MMS. Gee I don't know if this is true, but if you buy the books like DMSO Natures Healer and read the actuall cases, Complete yourself the OCC and Read the GERSON book the sections on the healing reactions, you will see that the above combination causes the healing reactions. When your friend who was given a 12 months to live, who could not breath, or be touch without bruising, could not walk a block, then turn down chemo in favor to OCC, Then watch him walk fast, breath deep, unload a truck. Well then you got to think the above combination you mention might be the aswser for some. don't get me wrong. The 12 hour is very hard and it makes you very sick, and very strong healing reactions, but so does chemo and chemo destroys everthing good and bad. I some times chemo destroys you. when your sick you have to pick something and stick with it. One bad choice means live or die. Now that he has completed the recommend 3 rounds of the OCC he is switching to Gerson only. He is past the dieing point, he feels different than he did when his onclogist gave him his prognosis. o: From: hrojas1206@...Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:55:34 -0800Subject: Re: [ ] Re: MSM MMS DMSO Colloid-silver http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/DMSO_CD02.htmlI want to know if this treatment is wrong too.MSM and DMSO are of the same family.Reciba un saludo afectuoso de su amigo L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B. 33-3685-0463 333-8150-542 HROJAS1206@...--- El dom 30-ene-11, Wg49 <johnwg49@...> escribió:De: Wg49 <johnwg49@...>Asunto: [ ] Re: MSM MMS DMSO Colloid-silverA: Fecha: domingo, 30 de enero de 2011, 8:44 I had the same question on whether msm is an anti-oxidant or not. This web site suggests it is. http://www.msm-info.com/#Antioxidant As a possibility, maybe your results would have been even better if you had not used the msm? > > From: jc sek <jcseeksyou@...> > Subject: [ ] MSM MMS DMSO Colloid-silver > > Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 1:36 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > So, is MSM an anti-oxidant product or not? And why should I take MSM together with MMS? What is the benifice? > > And thanks Humberto for all your web links. It was very interesting to read the information. > > Can someone in this forum tell me WHY an anti oxidant neutralize MMS or chlorine dioxide? > > Also, I would like to know if someone has the experience of Colloid silver protocol together with MMS and DMSO protocol? Is it dangerous or not to take Colloid silver together with MMS and DMSO? > > > Thanks > /Jean-Claude > > From: HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...> > Roseann Lawrence <rlawrence26@...> > Cc: > Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 9:32:52 PM > Subject: Rv: [ ] Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > >  > > MSM > 2 parts of Oxigen ( Oxidant) > 2 part of Methyl > 1 part of Sulfur > > --- El sáb 29-ene-11, HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...> escribió: > > De: HUMBERTO ROJAS <hrojas1206@...> > Asunto: [ ] Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > A: "Roseann Lawrence" <rlawrence26@...> > Cc: > > Fecha: sábado, 29 de enero de 2011, 14:16 > >   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylsulfonylmethane > > Where does it say, It is an Anti Oxidant > I have used the mix and it works very well. > > > Reciba un saludo afectuoso > de su amigo > L.A.E. 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Guest guest Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Other Delivery OptionsBecause frequently nausea causes individuals to stop using MMS before the infection or cancer is cleared, different ways of using it have been explored. Most common among these istransdermal application. When bypassing the stomach nausea is not normally a problem.A given number of drops of MMS are activated with 5 times more drops of acid, after 3 minutes DMSO is added at the same rate as the acid. After another 3 minute wait the solution is rubbed into the skin. A variation of this uses 10 drops of MMS and 1 tsp each of acid and DMSO. This method has also been adopted for cancer treatment, including by Jim Humble (9).While this method does not cause nausea, there is no real evidence that it works. There is even strong theoretical evidence that it cannot work. DMSO can act as a mild oxidant, but generally, and especially in the presence of stronger oxidants, it acts as an antioxidant. The main metabolite when DMSO is oxidised is MSM, which may also be written as DMSO2. If you search Google for DMSO +antioxidant you find expressions like: "DMSO-The King Antioxidant" and "It turned out that DMSO was a powerful antioxidant…" You just cannot combine the most powerful oxidant with a powerful antioxidant and expect that they do not talk to each other.However, I still regard it as useful to apply activated MMS on the skin for topical treatment of local infections and tumours. While MSM is less effective as a carrier than DMSO, it does improve passage through the skin, and it is not an antioxidant, so it is safe to use with MMS. But absorption will be slow, and therefore it is not suitable for getting chlorine dioxide into the blood. In contrast, absorption through the mucous membranes will be fairly fast, and may give better results. Possible absorption areas are the rectum, the vagina, and the mouth.http://www.health-science-spirit.com/miracle.htm--- In , "Wg49" <johnwg49@...> wrote:>> I had the same question on whether msm is an anti-oxidant or not. > This web site suggests it is.> > http://www.msm-info.com/#Antioxidant> > As a possibility, maybe your results would have been even better if you had not used the msm?> > > > > > > From: jc sek jcseeksyou@> > Subject: [ ] MSM MMS DMSO Colloid-silver> > > > Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 1:36 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, is MSM an anti-oxidant product or not? And why should I take MSM together with MMS? What is the benifice?> > > > And thanks Humberto for all your web links. It was very interesting to read the information.> > > > Can someone in this forum tell me WHY an anti oxidant neutralize MMS or chlorine dioxide? > > > > Also, I would like to know if someone has the experience of Colloid silver protocol together with MMS and DMSO protocol? Is it dangerous or not to take Colloid silver together with MMS and DMSO?> > > > > > Thanks> > /Jean-Claude > > > > From: HUMBERTO ROJAS hrojas1206@> > Roseann Lawrence rlawrence26@> > Cc: > > Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 9:32:52 PM> > Subject: Rv: [ ] Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia> > > >  > > > > MSM> > 2 parts of Oxigen ( Oxidant)> > 2 part of Methyl> > 1 part of Sulfur > > > > --- El sáb 29-ene-11, HUMBERTO ROJAS hrojas1206@ escribió:> > > > De: HUMBERTO ROJAS hrojas1206@> > Asunto: [ ] Methylsulfonylmethane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia> > A: "Roseann Lawrence" rlawrence26@> > Cc:> > > > Fecha: sábado, 29 de enero de 2011, 14:16> > > >   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylsulfonylmethane> > > > Where does it say, It is an Anti Oxidant> > I have used the mix and it works very well.> > > > > > Reciba un saludo afectuoso> > de su amigo> > L.A.E. Humberto Rojas B.> > 33-3685-0463> > 333-8150-542> > HROJAS1206@> >  > >  > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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