west nile virus

[Guest guest]

I would look toward massive amounts of vitamin c, a known anti-viral in

proper dosages. You can take it iv injectable or more easily and just about

as efficiently, orally with lipo-C.

doug

[ ] west nile virus

> Does anyone know or have any experience on treating a virus such as the

> west nile virus? I was attacked last October and can't seem to get rid

> of it. I started taking 6 drops of the MMS with the citric acid divided

> in half/ two times a day. Any suggestions on the dosage or getting rid of

> a virus?

[Guest guest]

You might try the new protocol of making a bulk amount of MMS using 50% citric

acid, like in the new videos online, and putting it into a large marked

container so you can be sipping on your chosen dose throughout the day...because

when you feel awful, it is easy to get behind on dosing, plus I remember Jim

Humble saying that more frequent smaller doses are more effective. The usual

rules apply about backing off if it makes you worse.

Another idea, which may or may not jive with more frequent MMS doses, is a

whopping dose of a healthy coconut oil. Don't take it if it smells

funky/rancid. That said, I usually use Tropical Traditions brand, Frontier or

Garden of Life. There are other quality makers, their names don't jump to my

mind right this second. At this point, you don't want anything hydrogenated,

rancid, or with added chemicals, or that used super high heat in processing that

may have destroyed the healing properties. This is an excellent oil to cook

with, btw, because it is very stable at higher heats. The monolaurins in it

destroys many viruses. You may have more than one virus, btw.

Another solution that may not be convenient - unless someone else can build one

or buy one quickly - is to make a Hulda Zapper. The goal here is to get

as many of the little suckers as possible so your immune system doesn't get

overwhelmed during the process of building up the needed antibodies to fight it

off. It can help eradicate bacteria, fungi and viruses, just not deep inside the

body. If you use the most primitive version of it, you need to do a sequence of

treatments because, in 's theory, the death of one microorganism can

trigger the release of a live microbe that was infecting it. She recommends

three sessions with her most basic kind of zapper. She wrote " The Cure for All

Diseases " and similar titles. We made ours from parts at Radio Shack using the

directions in her book. I see other, more sophisticated ones for sale on the

internet, for a good deal more money, some of which are more convenient to use.

Earthclinic.com also talks about drinking a potion of baking soda and an acid

like lemon juice/vinegar to help with the discomfort of recovery from bugs,

claiming that the death of pathogens in the body can leave an acidic reaction,

that is responsible for the misery and achiness felt during the course of the

disease.

I'm not sure of all the science, I'm just quoting the internet, but I and my dh

haven't been troubled by colds or flu at all since making coconut oil a

semi-regular feature in my diet. Neither has dh, who typically eats what I

make. The on-the-go teens who eat out too much and who turn their noses up at

these ideas have gotten sick repeatedly, so I've certainly had a chance to be

exposed to a whatever they have brought home. And when dh DID get a flu-ish

thing a couple times over the last few years, the baking soda and vinegar thing

worked great, as well as earthclinic's tomato cure. Not that it " cured "

anything, but it helped him feel a lot better, nourished him, and probably

killed a few more pathogens during the process. You can make a tomato " soup "

and add some of that coconut oil to it for extra oomph. Between that and the

baking soda/lemon juice concoction, we have been able to turn flu's around

fairly much more quickly than their usual course. See earthclinic.com and there

are plenty of variations of the " tomato cure " to choose from - I adapted a

recipe from several suggestions, using what I had on hand.

If you know someone into essential oils, get some lavender or Thieves or other

multi-bug destroying oil, and put some onto a hankie or something and keep it

pinned to your clothes near your neck, or tied around your neck, so you can

continually breathe in the germ-killing aromas (great trick for protection

during airplane travel or other close public contact, especially if you are

fatigued and run down). If you know someone with a cool nebulizer, borrow it

and run it 24/7 so that you can lower the infective load in your environment and

lungs even more. This is a great alternative to using something like

Emergenc-C, which isn't compatible with MMS.

Getting better from the flu is like a numbers game - you want to keep their

rapidly-reproducing numbers down before they overwhelm you completely. And you

want to neutralize the effects of the internal warfare so that you have the

strength to continue the fight. You also want to prevent any other pathogens

from taking advantage of the situation, so don't stop just because you start to

feel a little better. Let all your food and beverage choices have a purpose,

whether they kill pathogens directly, supply you with needed nutrition for your

own immune system, or balances the uncomfortable aches of a too-acid body.

Anything else will simply steal energy from your body and direct it towards

digestion (which is the most costly activity in the body, when it comes to

energy). So skip the grain-based family of foods as well as dairy for now

(unless you have 100% truly raw butter from organic grass fed cows, which unless

you have your own cow or your own farmer, you cannot get unless you live in

California and know which stores carry it.) Hold the chicken and noodles, but

the bone-based broth is fine.

Hope you feel better soon!

L.

--- In , " pjwhitejp " <pjwhitejp@...>

wrote:

>

> Does anyone know or have any experience on ...the west nile virus? ...I

started taking 6 drops of the MMS with the citric acid divided in half/ two

times a day. Any suggestions...

>

[Guest guest]

in regards to your protocol for west nile virus, i believe that the 6

drops twice daily is a maintenance dose for virus. i would use the cancer

& aids protocol of 8 doses of 3 drops mms1 and 4 pills of mms2 per day for

3 weeks. i have used this to control hiv and use the 6 drops twice daily

as a maintenance dose. also, i use this 12 dose/day protocol one week per

month as dictated by muscle testing. i remember reading jim humble's

description of viral replication, of how rapidly is occurs in the body.

you really need to keep hitting it hard to reduce viral load. there are

likely many additional co-factor critters that will be eliminated during

the course of the 3 weeks as well:

the first time i did the 3-week protocol, i discovered through live blood

analysis, filarial worms in my blood (elephantitis). they were blown

apart into many parts, likely from the treatments. this nematode parasite

is nocturnal and would probably not have been detected ever, aside from

putting me in a dark room for a few hours before blood analysis and maybe

during a full moon. i hear that the antibody tests doctors do for

filarial are only good during the initial infection, say one month; after

they are masked. during treatment, my lymph (which filarial worms favor)

hurt tremendously; actually this is what taught me just where the lymph is

located in my body (pain tracking to learn anatomy?). when i researched

filarial worms, most was cdc and nrf polyanna-lame crap research. then i

came across proceedings from a symposium in africa concerning tropical

parasites. one on-the-ground researcher (not the armchair type) stated

that filarial worms take down one half of the immune system-either T1 or

T2 i forget which. it also negated several biochemical pathways and some

cytokines. after getting rid of this critter, i would get huge energy

surges after meals; so much that i would have to lie down while screaming

into the stratosphere and onto what i had read in literature as-the

healing plane? and without the boring meditation!

the second time i did the 3-week protocol (jim humble recommends that aids

patients keep doing it if symptoms persist) live blood analysis revealed

in just one portion of a drop of blood, over 60 egg cases of liver flukes

(right about the time of hulda clark's passing-in memory?) which i don't

know, each contain, say hundreds or a thousand eggs resulting in what-say,

fifty thousand eggs? crazy!

coincidentally, at this time, my healer got revised instructions for one

of her zapping machines and low and behold it stated that for aids

patients to treat for parasites-oh really! gee whiz beeve, so why can i

not adjust my pH, EVER?

after getting rid of now counting 18 parasite species, not including the

mutants (thank you heavy metals, one of the most mutagenic forces in our

environment), i only can eat about one third of the food that i used to.

i just get full so fast now, really cutting down on food bills (yeah!) and

the total satisfaction of not feeding an army of poachers. so, in order

to get the nutrition that i need, it is critical that this little bit of

food is nutrient dense (thank you goddess sally fallon); no chips, no

crap, no potlucks (well, maybe a few), no filler.

cleansing with mms1 and 2 can be very intense on the body. one time i

pushed out so much metal, visible in the blood, that the red blood cells

were crenulated adjacent to the huge piles of metal. these would die, but

be recycled by the thrifty body. some white blood cells were damaged, but

were not killed-they are built stronger and are more resilient i hear and

able to recover, but during this time, out of commission. the metals made

the blood so acidic?, the areas surrounding them were near caustic.

i also use mms1 with dmso on the lymph most very day-then use a rebounder

trampoline, and do colon cleansing twice every 5 days with 14 gallons of

water and 1.5 teaspoons of activated mms1, plus 10 drops twice (yes Tom,

this is a crapload of medicine, but please be reminded that sick people

with life threatening challenges do crazy shit). i have been working on

pockets in the colon for a few years and have chased out some small tumors

and lately some very angular green/grey crystals 1-2mm in diameter, maybe

some critter homes being blown apart, or more likely the body's reaction

to cordon off the beasts (got calcium?). i strongly feel that once my gut

issues are resolved, i will be well. as all those great healers

affirmed: death begins in the colon (jensen, lust?).

sorry to digress and hope this helps. i have been lurking for a few years

on this wonderful group with many great healers and thought that in

appreciation, i should share my results, now that i am making more sense

of it and fine-tuning personal protocol (and the black helicopters have

been decommissioned-yeah austerity!)

regards and sorry for cussing, being sarcastic, and using run-on

sentences, but being sick for 10 years and on/off horrible med's, it is my

way...

brian.

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you for taking the time to write a very interesting and amusing letter. I like your side note to Tom. I do what I call "mad scientist experiments" myself so I can relate :-)

Tammy

[Guest guest]

,

You may want to look over the Oleander Group as well.

On Luella's site she has a Liver Cleanse protocol that may help you as well.

It's just Apple Juice, Grapefruit juice, olive oil and Epsom Salt.

Mike Thistle is also something I hope you are using. It helps your liver.

Oleander OPC will also help strengthen your immune system.

Nick has a website that he has been tracking his own battle with HIV.

He has been using the Beck Protocol.

Take Care,

Ron

>

> in regards to your protocol for west nile virus, i believe that the 6

> drops twice daily is a maintenance dose for virus. i would use the cancer

> & aids protocol of 8 doses of 3 drops mms1 and 4 pills of mms2 per day for

> 3 weeks. i have used this to control hiv and use the 6 drops twice daily

> as a maintenance dose. also, i use this 12 dose/day protocol one week per

> month as dictated by muscle testing. i remember reading jim humble's

> description of viral replication, of how rapidly is occurs in the body.

> you really need to keep hitting it hard to reduce viral load. there are

> likely many additional co-factor critters that will be eliminated during

> the course of the 3 weeks as well:

>

> the first time i did the 3-week protocol, i discovered through live blood

> analysis, filarial worms in my blood (elephantitis). they were blown

> apart into many parts, likely from the treatments. this nematode parasite

> is nocturnal and would probably not have been detected ever, aside from

> putting me in a dark room for a few hours before blood analysis and maybe

> during a full moon. i hear that the antibody tests doctors do for

> filarial are only good during the initial infection, say one month; after

> they are masked. during treatment, my lymph (which filarial worms favor)

> hurt tremendously; actually this is what taught me just where the lymph is

> located in my body (pain tracking to learn anatomy?). when i researched

> filarial worms, most was cdc and nrf polyanna-lame crap research. then i

> came across proceedings from a symposium in africa concerning tropical

> parasites. one on-the-ground researcher (not the armchair type) stated

> that filarial worms take down one half of the immune system-either T1 or

> T2 i forget which. it also negated several biochemical pathways and some

> cytokines. after getting rid of this critter, i would get huge energy

> surges after meals; so much that i would have to lie down while screaming

> into the stratosphere and onto what i had read in literature as-the

> healing plane? and without the boring meditation!

>

> the second time i did the 3-week protocol (jim humble recommends that aids

> patients keep doing it if symptoms persist) live blood analysis revealed

> in just one portion of a drop of blood, over 60 egg cases of liver flukes

> (right about the time of hulda clark's passing-in memory?) which i don't

> know, each contain, say hundreds or a thousand eggs resulting in what-say,

> fifty thousand eggs? crazy!

>

> coincidentally, at this time, my healer got revised instructions for one

> of her zapping machines and low and behold it stated that for aids

> patients to treat for parasites-oh really! gee whiz beeve, so why can i

> not adjust my pH, EVER?

>

> after getting rid of now counting 18 parasite species, not including the

> mutants (thank you heavy metals, one of the most mutagenic forces in our

> environment), i only can eat about one third of the food that i used to.

> i just get full so fast now, really cutting down on food bills (yeah!) and

> the total satisfaction of not feeding an army of poachers. so, in order

> to get the nutrition that i need, it is critical that this little bit of

> food is nutrient dense (thank you goddess sally fallon); no chips, no

> crap, no potlucks (well, maybe a few), no filler.

>

> cleansing with mms1 and 2 can be very intense on the body. one time i

> pushed out so much metal, visible in the blood, that the red blood cells

> were crenulated adjacent to the huge piles of metal. these would die, but

> be recycled by the thrifty body. some white blood cells were damaged, but

> were not killed-they are built stronger and are more resilient i hear and

> able to recover, but during this time, out of commission. the metals made

> the blood so acidic?, the areas surrounding them were near caustic.

>

> i also use mms1 with dmso on the lymph most very day-then use a rebounder

> trampoline, and do colon cleansing twice every 5 days with 14 gallons of

> water and 1.5 teaspoons of activated mms1, plus 10 drops twice (yes Tom,

> this is a crapload of medicine, but please be reminded that sick people

> with life threatening challenges do crazy shit). i have been working on

> pockets in the colon for a few years and have chased out some small tumors

> and lately some very angular green/grey crystals 1-2mm in diameter, maybe

> some critter homes being blown apart, or more likely the body's reaction

> to cordon off the beasts (got calcium?). i strongly feel that once my gut

> issues are resolved, i will be well. as all those great healers

> affirmed: death begins in the colon (jensen, lust?).

>

> sorry to digress and hope this helps. i have been lurking for a few years

> on this wonderful group with many great healers and thought that in

> appreciation, i should share my results, now that i am making more sense

> of it and fine-tuning personal protocol (and the black helicopters have

> been decommissioned-yeah austerity!)

>

> regards and sorry for cussing, being sarcastic, and using run-on

> sentences, but being sick for 10 years and on/off horrible med's, it is my

> way...

>

> brian.

>

[Guest guest]

Would you please post Luella’s site?

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Monkeyron

Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011

12:30 PM

Subject:

[ ] Re: west nile virus

,

You may want to look over the Oleander Group as well.

On Luella's site she has a Liver Cleanse protocol that may help you as well.

It's just Apple Juice, Grapefruit juice, olive oil and Epsom Salt.

Mike Thistle is also something I hope you are using. It helps your liver.

Oleander OPC will also help strengthen your immune system.

Nick has a website that he has been tracking his own battle with HIV.

He has been using the Beck Protocol.

Take Care,

Ron

[Guest guest]

Sure,

Luella site:

http://tbyil.com

take Care,

Ron

On 2/5/2011 1:21 PM, wrote:

Would you please post Luella’s

site?

From:

[mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Monkeyron

Sent:

Friday, February 04, 2011

12:30 PM

To:

Subject:

[ ] Re: west nile virus

,

You may want to look over the Oleander Group

as well.

On Luella's site she has a Liver Cleanse

protocol that may help you as well.

It's just Apple Juice, Grapefruit juice, olive

oil and Epsom Salt.

Mike Thistle is also something I hope you are

using. It helps your liver.

Oleander OPC will also help strengthen your

immune system.

Nick has a website that he has been tracking

his own battle with HIV.

He has been using the Beck Protocol.

Take Care,

Ron