Re: Bladder Problems with MMS

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Suzanne,My suggestion is to bathe in it until your toxin load goes down. I started out with 10 drops in my bath water andnow am up to 60-70 drops daily. You'd be amazed how well this works too. The toxins are usually foundin our fat tissues. Maybe after a short while you can go back to MMS in a glass of water.From: retrainyourbrain <suzanneio@...> Sent: Thu,

March 24, 2011 3:02:20 PMSubject: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMSHello Everyone,I've had a terrible time taking MMS without nausea, so I decided to take a wee bit in a glass of water, and sip it throughout the day. The fourth day I had to quit because of painful urination.Any idea? Are there some people who just can't handle this stuff?Suzanne------------------------------------

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:I'm the other Suzanne. Thanks for the bath tip. I have been using 30-40 drops. I will increase it. If I muscle check it for me, it says to use 45 drops. I just started taking the six oral drops before the bath. However, I am using oral MMS1 & 2 six times a day. I was measuring using teaspoons which will net me 36 drops per half of a teaspoon if full. More like 30 drops not crammed full. I was using the 100 drops per teaspoon rule until I measured myself with my spoons. I was actually getting less of a dose than I thought when using the 100 rule. I haven't had any experiences with painful urination. Using MMS1 & 2 requires quite a bit of liquid injestion which keeps me peeing. I am not getting the

amount of liquid recommended because I can't handle more. I weigh 105 pounds up from 92 pounds. Handling the liquid leaves less room for food. I have found that I need food in my stomach before taking MMS1 & 2. It prevents me from getting sick. I carry an apple everywhere I go. Eating an apple fast does the trick for me too.As for the juice. I have been using fresh pineapple juice because I live where it is grown. I used to use pineapple more full strength. Now with the MMS2 I use mostly water. I just add 1/4 of a cup of the juice to make it go down easy. I also hold my nose with one hand and gulp it down.This is my experience. Nevertheless, do whatever you feel for you. I don't know what works for individuals. I only know what I am doing. SuzanneFrom: ston <lindalo@...> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 12:20:00 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMS Suzanne,My suggestion is to bathe in it until your toxin load goes down. I started out with 10 drops in my bath water andnow am up to 60-70 drops daily. You'd be amazed how well this works too. The toxins are usually foundin our fat tissues. Maybe after a short while you can go back to MMS in a glass of water.From: retrainyourbrain <suzanneio@...> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 3:02:20 PMSubject: [ ] Bladder

Problems with MMSHello Everyone,I've had a terrible time taking MMS without nausea, so I decided to take a wee bit in a glass of water, and sip it throughout the day. The fourth day I had to quit because of painful urination.Any idea? Are there some people who just can't handle this stuff?Suzanne------------------------------------

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, when you say you use 60-70 drops in your bath, do you mean "activated" or just the MMS? I want to try the bath but unsure if I should activate it or simply put it in the bath water. Thanks for any clarification! From: ston <lindalo@...> Sent:

Thu, March 24, 2011 3:20:00 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMS

Suzanne,My suggestion is to bathe in it until your toxin load goes down. I started out with 10 drops in my bath water andnow am up to 60-70 drops daily. You'd be amazed how well this works too. The toxins are usually foundin our fat tissues. Maybe after a short while you can go back to MMS in a glass of water.From: retrainyourbrain <suzanneio@...> Sent: Thu,

March 24, 2011 3:02:20 PMSubject: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMSHello Everyone,I've had a terrible time taking MMS without nausea, so I decided to take a wee bit in a glass of water, and sip it throughout the day. The fourth day I had to quit because of painful urination.Any idea? Are there some people who just can't handle this stuff?Suzanne------------------------------------

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Hello Marla,

Bathing works best if you utilize chlorine dioxide technology. MMS forms

chlorous acid which does have some chlorine dioxide in it, but you end up using

a lot more sodium chlorite than you need to, and end up bathing in chlorous

acid. You need free chlorine dioxide which is released through activation.

Chlorine dioxide works by having a concentration of it in contact with what you

are trying to kill for a period of time long enough to kill it.

In order to know what concentration you have, you need to measure the amount of

water you are adding the sodium chlorite to.

For example if you put 70 drops of activated MMS in half a glass of water you

will end up with a concentration of about 4400 PPM available and about 440 free

chlorine dioxide. Now, if you put that into 70 liters of water for a bath, the

concentration drops to 8 PPM available and 0.8 PPM free chlorine dioxide.

The next step is to figure out what you are trying to kill, and make sure your

concentration is strong enough to kill it.

For example, many strains of staph have a CT of 30. If you only had staph on

your skin and did not introduce any other contaminates into the bath, you would

have to stay in the bath for about 40 minutes in order to eliminate it using a

concentration of 0.8 PPM free chlorine dioxide. If you had some candida on your

skin, the CT goes up. The CT for candida is 100 and using a concentration of

0.8 PPM free chlorine dioxide you would have to stay in the bath for 125 minutes

in order to kill it. Now if you had both, the chlorine dioxide would most

likely be used up before you can spend enough time to kill them off.

It is better to view this as a " shock " treatment and use a higher concentration

of free chlorine dioxide than you think you need. In the previous examples you

would just be " cleaning " the organisms off surface of your skin, and there would

be no penetration of the skin. Also, there is no allowance for anything else

that may be present on the surface of the skin.

Now, if you had a concentration of 10 PPM free chlorine dioxide in the bath, you

could soak for 20 minutes, kill off both the staph and candida, and have some

left over for anything else that may be there.

In order to penetrate the skin in a short period of time you need a

concentration of more than 50 PPM. To kill toe nail fungus you need to be at

100 PPM, but that these higher concentrations fumes become a problem.

A good general bath rinse uses 10 PPM free chlorine dioxide. The idea is to

first take a bath and clean off all the organisms and dead skin that you can by

washing off of your skin. Then you clean the tub and fill it with water and add

enough chemicals to bring the concentration of free chlorine dioxide up to 10

PPM.

If your bath holds 70 liters of water and you are following the MMS method of

activation using citric acid, you would mix up 52 ml of MMS (about 884 drops)

and add your citric acid to it, then add that to the bath water.

Using chlorine dioxide technology you would use a 5% sodium chlorite solution

and activate it with a 6% hydrochloric acid solution. In this case with the

same 70 liters of water you would put 23 ml (about 460 drops) of 5% sodium

chlorite and activate that with 23 ml of 6% HCl and add that to the bath water.

In both cases you can determine the effectiveness of your bath by measuring the

concentration left in the bath water after your soak. If all the free chlorine

dioxide is used up, you probably didn't kill off all the organisms that were on

your body. If there is some free chlorine dioxide left, you can be assured that

you had enough to do the job and then it comes down to if the soak time was long

enough.

Caution: Chlorine dioxide fumes are a respiratory irritant. Avoid breathing

the fumes.

Caution: Chlorine dioxide can kill the beneficial bacteria in a septic tank.

Neutralize the bath water before draining if you have a septic system.

Tom

--- In , Marla Swanson <swansonmm@...>

wrote:

>

> , when you say you use 60-70 drops in your bath, do you mean " activated "

or

> just the MMS? I want to try the bath but unsure if I should activate it or

> simply put it in the bath water. Thanks for any clarification!

>

>

>

>

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I activate MMS1 for my bath, just like written.

http://mms-articles.com/mms-water-bath.htm

--- In , Marla Swanson <swansonmm@...>

wrote:

>

> , when you say you use 60-70 drops in your bath, do you mean " activated "

or

> just the MMS? I want to try the bath but unsure if I should activate it or

> simply put it in the bath water. Thanks for any clarification!

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: ston <lindalo@...>

>

> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 3:20:00 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMS

>

>

> Suzanne,

> My suggestion is to bathe in it until your toxin load goes down. I started out

> with 10 drops in my bath water and

> now am up to 60-70 drops daily. You'd be amazed how well this works too. The

> toxins are usually found

> in our fat tissues. Maybe after a short while you can go back to MMS in a

glass

> of water.

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: retrainyourbrain <suzanneio@...>

>

> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 3:02:20 PM

> Subject: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMS

>

> Hello Everyone,

>

> I've had a terrible time taking MMS without nausea, so I decided to take a wee

> bit in a glass of water, and sip it throughout the day. The fourth day I had

to

> quit because of painful urination.

>

> Any idea? Are there some people who just can't handle this stuff?

>

> Suzanne

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you!!! ~

[ ] Bladder Problems with MMS

>

> Hello Everyone,

>

> I've had a terrible time taking MMS without nausea, so I decided to take a

wee

> bit in a glass of water, and sip it throughout the day. The fourth day I

had to

> quit because of painful urination.

>

> Any idea? Are there some people who just can't handle this stuff?

>

> Suzanne

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Yes activated. Good Luck.From: Marla Swanson <swansonmm@...> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 8:56:56 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMS

, when you say you use 60-70 drops in your bath, do you mean "activated" or just the MMS? I want to try the bath but unsure if I should activate it or simply put it in the bath water. Thanks for any clarification! From: ston <lindalo@...> Sent:

Thu, March 24, 2011 3:20:00 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMS

Suzanne,My suggestion is to bathe in it until your toxin load goes down. I started out with 10 drops in my bath water andnow am up to 60-70 drops daily. You'd be amazed how well this works too. The toxins are usually foundin our fat tissues. Maybe after a short while you can go back to MMS in a glass of water.From: retrainyourbrain <suzanneio@...> Sent: Thu,

March 24, 2011 3:02:20 PMSubject: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMSHello Everyone,I've had a terrible time taking MMS without nausea, so I decided to take a wee bit in a glass of water, and sip it throughout the day. The fourth day I had to quit because of painful urination.Any idea? Are there some people who just can't handle this stuff?Suzanne------------------------------------

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since we are "to drink" the solution in distilled water, what sort of impact does non-distilled chlorinated/fluoride bath water have on the MMS?

Thanks,

Ramona

From: ston <lindalo@...>Subject: Re: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMS Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 3:18 PM

Yes activated. Good Luck.

From: Marla Swanson <swansonmm@...> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 8:56:56 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMS

, when you say you use 60-70 drops in your bath, do you mean "activated" or just the MMS? I want to try the bath but unsure if I should activate it or simply put it in the bath water. Thanks for any clarification!

From: ston <lindalo@...> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 3:20:00 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMS

Suzanne,My suggestion is to bathe in it until your toxin load goes down. I started out with 10 drops in my bath water andnow am up to 60-70 drops daily. You'd be amazed how well this works too. The toxins are usually foundin our fat tissues. Maybe after a short while you can go back to MMS in a glass of water.

From: retrainyourbrain <suzanneio@...> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 3:02:20 PMSubject: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMSHello Everyone,I've had a terrible time taking MMS without nausea, so I decided to take a wee bit in a glass of water, and sip it throughout the day. The fourth day I had to quit because of painful urination.Any idea? Are there some people who just can't handle this stuff?Suzanne------------------------------------

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Thanks to everyone who answered my question! Much appreciated. From: ston <lindalo@...> Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 1:18:14 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMS

Yes activated. Good Luck.From: Marla Swanson <swansonmm@...> Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 8:56:56 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMS

, when you say you use 60-70 drops in your bath, do you mean "activated" or just the MMS? I want to try the bath but unsure if I should activate it or simply put it in the bath water. Thanks for any clarification! From: ston <lindalo@...> Sent:

Thu, March 24, 2011 3:20:00 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMS

Suzanne,My suggestion is to bathe in it until your toxin load goes down. I started out with 10 drops in my bath water andnow am up to 60-70 drops daily. You'd be amazed how well this works too. The toxins are usually foundin our fat tissues. Maybe after a short while you can go back to MMS in a glass of water.From: retrainyourbrain <suzanneio@...> Sent: Thu,

March 24, 2011 3:02:20 PMSubject: [ ] Bladder Problems with MMSHello Everyone,I've had a terrible time taking MMS without nausea, so I decided to take a wee bit in a glass of water, and sip it throughout the day. The fourth day I had to quit because of painful urination.Any idea? Are there some people who just can't handle this stuff?Suzanne------------------------------------

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Thanks Tom! From: silverfox_science <poast@...> Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 8:24:43 AMSubject: [ ] Re: Bladder Problems with MMS

Hello Marla,

Bathing works best if you utilize chlorine dioxide technology. MMS forms chlorous acid which does have some chlorine dioxide in it, but you end up using a lot more sodium chlorite than you need to, and end up bathing in chlorous acid. You need free chlorine dioxide which is released through activation.

Chlorine dioxide works by having a concentration of it in contact with what you are trying to kill for a period of time long enough to kill it.

In order to know what concentration you have, you need to measure the amount of water you are adding the sodium chlorite to.

For example if you put 70 drops of activated MMS in half a glass of water you will end up with a concentration of about 4400 PPM available and about 440 free chlorine dioxide. Now, if you put that into 70 liters of water for a bath, the concentration drops to 8 PPM available and 0.8 PPM free chlorine dioxide.

The next step is to figure out what you are trying to kill, and make sure your concentration is strong enough to kill it.

For example, many strains of staph have a CT of 30. If you only had staph on your skin and did not introduce any other contaminates into the bath, you would have to stay in the bath for about 40 minutes in order to eliminate it using a concentration of 0.8 PPM free chlorine dioxide. If you had some candida on your skin, the CT goes up. The CT for candida is 100 and using a concentration of 0.8 PPM free chlorine dioxide you would have to stay in the bath for 125 minutes in order to kill it. Now if you had both, the chlorine dioxide would most likely be used up before you can spend enough time to kill them off.

It is better to view this as a "shock" treatment and use a higher concentration of free chlorine dioxide than you think you need. In the previous examples you would just be "cleaning" the organisms off surface of your skin, and there would be no penetration of the skin. Also, there is no allowance for anything else that may be present on the surface of the skin.

Now, if you had a concentration of 10 PPM free chlorine dioxide in the bath, you could soak for 20 minutes, kill off both the staph and candida, and have some left over for anything else that may be there.

In order to penetrate the skin in a short period of time you need a concentration of more than 50 PPM. To kill toe nail fungus you need to be at 100 PPM, but that these higher concentrations fumes become a problem.

A good general bath rinse uses 10 PPM free chlorine dioxide. The idea is to first take a bath and clean off all the organisms and dead skin that you can by washing off of your skin. Then you clean the tub and fill it with water and add enough chemicals to bring the concentration of free chlorine dioxide up to 10 PPM.

If your bath holds 70 liters of water and you are following the MMS method of activation using citric acid, you would mix up 52 ml of MMS (about 884 drops) and add your citric acid to it, then add that to the bath water.

Using chlorine dioxide technology you would use a 5% sodium chlorite solution and activate it with a 6% hydrochloric acid solution. In this case with the same 70 liters of water you would put 23 ml (about 460 drops) of 5% sodium chlorite and activate that with 23 ml of 6% HCl and add that to the bath water.

In both cases you can determine the effectiveness of your bath by measuring the concentration left in the bath water after your soak. If all the free chlorine dioxide is used up, you probably didn't kill off all the organisms that were on your body. If there is some free chlorine dioxide left, you can be assured that you had enough to do the job and then it comes down to if the soak time was long enough.

Caution: Chlorine dioxide fumes are a respiratory irritant. Avoid breathing the fumes.

Caution: Chlorine dioxide can kill the beneficial bacteria in a septic tank. Neutralize the bath water before draining if you have a septic system.

Tom

>

> , when you say you use 60-70 drops in your bath, do you mean "activated" or

> just the MMS? I want to try the bath but unsure if I should activate it or

> simply put it in the bath water. Thanks for any clarification!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Ramona,

Chlorine dioxide in water with chlorine and fluoride in it will simply co-exist

without reacting to it.

A good practice would be to draw the bath a little hotter than needed and let it

stand a few minutes before adding the chlorine dioxide to it and getting in.

Tom

--- In , Ramona <jolielabelle777@...>

wrote:

>

>

> since we are " to drink " the solution in distilled water, what sort of

impact does non-distilled chlorinated/fluoride bath water have on the MMS?

>  

> Thanks,

> Ramona

>  

>