Re: Natural Methods for Reducing or Stopping Fits of Coughing

[Guest guest]

Let me echo the warnings of breathing chlorine dioxide gas.

Starting with LennTech

" Chlorine dioxide gas

While using chlorine dioxide as a disinfectant, one has to keep in mind that

chlorine dioxide gas can escape from a watery solution containing chlorine

dioxide. Especially when disinfection takes place in a sealed space, this can be

dangerous. When chlorine dioxide concentrations reach 10% or more in air,

chlorine dioxide becomes explosive.

Acute exposure of the skin to chlorine that originates from the decomposition of

chlorine dioxide, causes irritations and burns. Eye exposure eyes to chlorine

dioxide causes irritations, watering eyes and a blurry sight. Chlorine dioxide

gas can be absorbed by the skin, where it damages tissue and blood cells.

Inhalation of chlorine dioxide gas causes coughing, a sore throat, severe

headaches, lung oedema and bronchio spasma. The symptoms can begin to show long

after the exposure has taken place and can remain for a long time. Chronical

exposure to chlorine dioxide causes bronchitis. The health standard for chlorine

dioxide is 0.1 ppm. "

So, when you expose yourself to chlorine dioxide gas in an effort to heal

yourself, expect to experience eye irritation, watering eyes, blurry sight,

damage to the skin tissue and blood cells, coughing, sore throat, severe

headaches, lung oedema, and bronchio spasma. These symptoms can show up

immediately or as long as 72 hours after the exposure.

These are not Herxheimer effects.

OSHA has set a time weighted average concentration of 0.1 PPM. This means that

if you are exposed to chlorine dioxide gas at a concentration of 0.1 PPM for 8

hours a day and 40 hours a week, this concentration will not produce the adverse

effects listed above.

OSHA also has a short term exposure limit of 0.3 PPM as being acceptable, only

if the exposure is limited to 15 minutes.

How do you know if your exposure has effected you?

Under the signs and symptoms of exposure OSHA has this:

" Acute exposure: Acute exposure to chlorine dioxide results in irritation of the

eyes, nose, and throat; cough; wheezing; shortness of breath; bronchitis;

pulmonary edema; headache; and vomiting [Genium Chronic exposure: Chronic

exposure to chlorine dioxide may cause chronic bronchitis and emphysema [sittig

1991]. "

So, while trying to clear up your runny nose, you may end up with chronic

bronchitis and emphysema... Is this really worth the risk?

Jim Humble evens offers cautions.

" However, a severe warning is stated - DO NOT OVERDOSE. DO NOT DEEP BREATH THE

ClO2 gas into your lungs for any length of time. Your lungs can rapidly absorb

the ClO2 gas just as easily as oxygen, causing unexpected depletion of oxygen.

Take breaks and breath normal air periodically while doing this procedure. This

warning will be repeated several times. IF YOU OVERDOSE AND DEEP BREATH YOU MAY

DAMAGE YOUR LUNGS. "

While he understates the actual danger, he does recognize that there is a

danger.

What is even more interesting is that on one hand he cautions against deep

breathing chlorine dioxide gas, then he turns around and instructs you to deeply

breathe the gas... This leaves a person in some confusion. Industry, OSHA, and

Jim Humble all agree that deeply breathing chlorine dioxide gas damages the

body, but Jim Humble instructs that if you have bronchial issues you should

breathe deeply chlorine dioxide gas. Perhaps he thinks the damage to the body

is not as important as killing the bacteria...

Chlorine dioxide works and damages based upon concentration. A study showed

that school children absence from school was greatly reduced when a

concentration of 0.01 PPM chlorine dioxide was added to the air in the school.

On the other end of the spectrum, animals had problems and showed adverse

effects when the concentration of chlorine dioxide in the air was raised to 0.25

PPM.

Wouldn't it be wise to measure what the concentration of chlorine dioxide gas is

from a 3 drop dose of MMS?

Wouldn't it be wise to measure what the concentration of chlorine dioxide gas is

when you add MMS to a humidifier?

I suppose you could do some trial an error on this. Jim Humble recommends

removing pets and birds from the house when using chlorine dioxide to remove

fungus or mold. It would be possible to have a pet or bird " sniff " the dose

before you try it. If your pet or bird became distressed, you could infer that

the concentration is too high...

There are industrial instruments that can measure the concentration of chlorine

dioxide in air, but they are expensive, and require some training to use

properly. If anyone knows anyone that works in a pulp mill, mix up a dose and

have them check the concentration of gas in a 2 - 3 drop dose of MMS.

Everyone agrees that chlorine dioxide gas is dangerous. There has been a lot of

tests and studies done to protect the health of those that work with these

chemicals. Safe levels have been determined. If your health has been

compromised, is it worth damaging it in an effort to find healing?

As a very general guideline, the concentration where you just begin to detect

the chlorine dioxide odor is about 0.1 PPM. If it is stronger than just being

able to detect it, the concentration is higher.

Tom

--- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

wrote:

>

> [top article graphic] Natural Methods for Reducing or Stopping Fits of

> CoughingItems in the picture above are now back under the bathroom sink.

> Dates on most drugs precede 1992. Another box in the garage is full of

> other reminders of past coughing fits and tight corsets that probably

> prevented hernias.

>

> Do you have a collection like this? These were costly prescription drugs

> when we bought them 15 or 20 years ago - inhalers, throat sprays, and

> cough medicines to drug the body, hoping we could get a night of sleep

> without relentless coughing.

>

> These old pills and canisters reminded me of torn chest muscles,

> sleepless nights, hernia threats, noisy BARKING - trying to " cough

> things up, " and (sorry) memories of spitting gross green wads of mucus

> into sinks or tissues.

>

> This article identifies three natural methods I wish I had known 30

> years ago. Unfairly neglected, we even forget them sometimes when we

> need them. Recovering from sticky congestion is a discipline of its own.

> MMS can kill the germs and viruses that cause respiratory problems, but

> eventually everyone faces the mechanical problem of " coughing up " dried

> mucus and sticky phlegm. Histamine reactions were produced by the

> presence of germs. It may have been manufactured hours or days ago in

> your lungs.

>

> After MMS kills the viral germs, your body wants you to " take out the

> lung garbage. " So involuntarily your body is forced into spastic

> coughing.

>

> If the thick mucus could be diluted into a more WATERY consistency, it

> would be wafted upward by the tiny hairs in the wind pipe, bronchioles,

> and the lungs. Coughing would not occur. If mucus plugs became very

> watery, your phlegm would sometimes float upward unaided where it can be

> spit out.

>

> The most useful item above was probably this 15 year old ultrasonic

> humidifier. It produces large amounts of real fog. This writer had

> pneumonia about nine years ago (MMS had not been discovered at that

> time). After going to work for a week with fever I finally sought help.

> The doctor called it double walking viral pneumonia. I gradually

> realized I could die from congestion and coughing. Traditional

> prescriptions saved my life at that time. I spent about one week on the

> couch. I remember getting up, determined to do something useful, walking

> three steps, turning around, going back, and laying down again.

>

> Now that the Miracle Mineral Solution - known as MMS - is readily

> available, I can - and have deliberately - stopped colds and sore

> throats before they migrate to the chest or lungs. If I use MMS early

> and wisely, I may never have another cold, bronchitis, flu, or pneumonia

> in the future. Once you understand how MMS works (quite differently from

> antibiotics) then there's no need to say " I think I'm taking a cold. "

> With MMS in the refrigerator, you are not a helpless victim confronted

> by armies of invisible viral enemies. We get clear signals - sore

> throats and runny noses. We know what is about to happen. So take

> action. Gargle with MMS, or breath the ClO2 gas produced by MMS, and

> resume taking a 4 drop MMS mix every 1.5 hours.

>

> You can review the 20 methods of using MMS at Jim Humble's web site at

> http://JimHumble.biz <http://jimhumble.biz/> MMS doesn't check to see

> whether you caught a SWINE flu bug, or a SARS flu bug, or a BIRD flu

> bug, or a SEASONAL flu bug, or a mere cold germ. MMS produces a small

> amount of ClO2 gas that rips electrons out of viruses and bacteria

> causing the viral structure to collapse. Taken early when symptoms first

> appear, viruses cannot build their proteins properly. Therefore they

> can't clone themselves in your lungs like they do in other people.

>

> The superior germicidal action of ClO2 gas has been recognized since

> 1950. The EPA long ago approved spraying of ClO2-generating liquids or

> gas for odor and germ control on food products, home fabrics, and

> anywhere that germs need to be killed. A variety of such products are

> displayed at www.ExpelProducts.com. ClO2 gas is how they kill those

> cruise-ship stomach viruses.

>

> If you have developed lung congestion, fever, chills, wheezing, and

> coughing, then visualize how viral germs thrive and reproduce

> comfortably in the phlegm your body produces in lungs and sinuses.

> Coughing almost always follows. If sticky phlegm in the sinuses and

> lungs could be made watery, it will be wafted upward in a natural way,

> and soon expelled with much less coughing.

>

> Everyone with flu or lung congestion faces this coughing problem even

> after the germs have been killed.

>

> To kill the viruses and germs, review these MMS protocols that explain

> how to use it against nose, sinus, and bronchial infections.

>

> Click here if you are still infected:

> http://JimHumble.biz/biz-handlingviruses.htm

> <http://jimhumble.biz/biz-handlingviruses.htm> .

>

> See also the breathing protocol related to colds and flu -

> http://JimHumble.biz/biz-nosesinus.htm

> <http://jimhumble.biz/biz-nosesinus.htm> .

>

> See also the information about swine flu and any new variants that may

> emerge at

> http://JimHumble.biz/biz-newflu.htm

> <http://jimhumble.biz/biz-newflu.htm> .

>

> FLOW OF EVENTS:

> Your immune system spots pathogens in your lungs and releases histamine.

> Water is drawn from your blood and it " weeps " into your lungs which are

> normally dry. Mucus forms and germs continue to thrive in the mucus

> until some agent like MMS, or sometimes antibiotics, manages to kill the

> germs in the mucus.

>

> How can you cause mucus to flow upward and out of your lungs? It needs

> to be made watery.

>

> Unfortunately most cough medicines contain antihistamine chemicals which

> at first seem to slow your symptoms. They inhibit histimine production.

> However, common medicines with antihistamine drugs tend to dry the

> lungs. Just when you wish the mucus would become more liquid and more

> watery, antihistimines turn it to rubbery raisins and plugs. Dried phlem

> and mucus become like marbles in the lungs - hardened phlegm. Whereas

> you can pick your nose, you can't pick your sinuses, bronchicals, or

> lungs.

>

> It doesn't seem like a favor, but the immune system wants to keep you

> alive, so it forces you to COUGH. However hopless, it's the last resort

> for pushing molasses-like marbles up and out of the lungs. You could

> face a month of continual hacking in this situation. If there were

> peanuts in your lungs, how would you cough them up and out? You can't,

> unless they can be melted.

>

> Everyone at work around you wishes you would stop hacking. Family also.

> You also. Eventually, if you live that long, your body will absorb some

> of the plug-debris back into your blood stream for elimination. But,

> there are better ways.

>

> INHALATION THERAPY - YES, IF YOU ARE IN A REAL EMERGENCY.

> Before using the three methods below of liquefying mucus, PLEASE

> EVALUATE the extent of your congestion. ARE YOU IN A LIFE THREATENING

> SITUATION? Unable to breathe? Gasping for air? In need of Oxygen?

>

> If so check into the nearest out-patient clinic at a hospital and

> request " Inhalation Therapy. " They have equipment that produces a

> magical fog designed to liquify your mucus glue and plugs. It can break

> up deep congestion and is effective in an emergency. If your flu or cold

> germs have not been fully killed, the congestion may return, but at

> least you can breath again to some extent.

>

> Therefore study the flu protocols listed above and avoid sinking into a

> desparate and costly situation requiring hospitilization. Get serious

> and learn how to use MMS because it is effective in killing viruses

> before you become their sorry host. Even desparate people with

> Staph-MRSA, are reporting complete recovery using MMS.

>

> If the hospital gives you inhalation therapy, you will be given a round

> tube which assists in inhaling foggy moist air laden with medicines that

> contain " expectorant " gases that soften hardened mucus deep in the

> lungs. This can bring you back from losing your life or help to avoid

> hernias after coughing for days and weeks. After about 20 minutes,

> wheezing and coughing will be reduced and you come back from an

> emergency situation. This is a standard procedure, costly, but desirable

> if you are dying from congestion.

>

> (finally) THREE NATURAL METHODS FOR REDUCING COUGHING:

> These can be self-administered at home by anyone who wants to stop

> coughing. These methods do not kill germs. Germicidal MMS is the

> essential element - let it kill the germs. These coughing strategies

> deal only the removal of sticky phlegm from lungs and wind pipes AFTER

> germs have been killed through use of MMS or other any other medicines.

>

> METHOD ONE:

> Doctors in the 1900's told people to take magnesium along with a drop or

> two of hydrochloric acid because that immediately shifts mucus and and

> phlegm to a watery state. This action still works effectively.

>

> If coughing persists, you can take magnesium mineral pills along with

> extra water and one Sudafed tablet every four hours, available at

> the drug counter in many drug stores, or on the Internet at

> www.Sudafed.com/ . These small tablets contain one drop of hydrochloric

> acid and they last about four hours.

> Out of 14 various Sudafed products, only the four-hour Sudafed for cough

> and cold, or the four-hour nasal decongestant product is recommended in

> this situation. They are both four hour duration and they have no

> antihistamine chemicals. Their other products contain antihistamine

> drugs. Do not become dependent on these tablets. I assume you want to

> stop coughing, so this is for use when coughing is damaging and

> unproductive.

>

> This approach of using Sudafed expectorant tablets (the two types

> mentioned above) to reduce coughing is well documented. Sudafed is

> designed as an expectorant. By itself it thins mucus to a watery

> substance, enabling phlegm to rise naturally from the lungs, ready for

> spitting out. This reduces coughing without diminishing MMS benefits. If

> you know some other way to get one drop of HCL into your body, it would

> have the same effect.

>

> METHOD TWO:

> Another way to thin sticky phlegm is to add Cayenne to hot soup - as

> much as you can tolerate. Red pepper works too. To the degree that you

> get a runny nose from extra-spicy soup, the phlegm in your lungs and

> bronchioles is also temporarily made watery and is then wafted upward in

> a natural way. Cayenne and red peppers cause blood vessels to expand.

> Blood comes to the surface and flows vigorously, which is good.

>

> Your whole face can turn red after biting into a hot pepper,

> demonstrating rapid blood flow. Observe the cayenne bottle on the right.

> It lasts about two years for these purposes and it makes a great soup

> seasoning (two or three drops in a bowl of soup may be enough). Go ahead

> - overdose on this strategy - if you can stand the heat.

>

> Whatever form of Cayenne you use, consider preparing also a gargling mix

> with two drops Cayenne and 1/4 cup of water (or more if needed). Gargle

> with the Cayenne spice-heat at the maximum you can stand. It causes

> blood vessels to expand. Blood flows faster and freely to the areas

> needed. Your face will turn red, your nose will run, and it may take

> five minutes to stop talking about the experience. But it is effective.

>

> METHOD THREE:

> An ultrasonic humidifier like the one pictured far above does not just

> push misty water into the air. It produces truely atomized fog. Spread

> some towels around it and sleep with the fog hovering above your head.

> Humid moist air prevents the drying of mucus and it further assists the

> expectorant process.

>

> Depending on your progress in killing flu germs, you might prepare a 6

> to 8 drop MMS mix, wait three minutes, then add it to the humidifier

> tank so that a small amount of ClO2 gas is emitted with the fog

> throughout the night (or day). The ClO2 odor is not strong and it is

> beneficial in killing any remaining germs that may reside in lungs or

> bronchicals. Do not overdose. You may not smell the MMS and might

> imagine that nothing is happening. This caution is important.

>

> People sometimes wonder if the whole house will start smelling like

> Chlorine or ClO2. Will it get into couch cushions, lamp shades, or

> carpets? DO NOT WORRY. ClO2 is the worlds most powerful DEODORIZER. What

> you smell is self-destructing. Within one hour, the ClO2 odor has killed

> any germs in the room, including carpet mold, pet odors, smelly shoes,

> and cooking odors. Then the ClO2 odor disappears. Even if it finds no

> germs to kill, or parasites to trounce, or odors to attack, it will

> gradually become two molecules of water which are the same as humidifier

> fog.

>

> This method helps to liquify mucus the same as standing in a hot shower

> would help phlegm to become more liquid. With MMS added to the

> humidifier it helps to prevent a recurrence of the cold or flu.

>

> There's no need to comment about the inhalation canisters pictured at

> the top, and the codine-type of cough inhibitors that essentially put

> the body and mind to sleep for a few hours. However, the page of

> fine-print side effects already explains the negatives of many

> medicines. Read the bottle labels and the side effects. This article has

> suggested three home remedies that may help in the future if coughing is

> an annoyance.

>

> Article prepared by staff at the Institute for Advanced MMS Studies

> email: mmsnews@

>

> http://mms-articles.com/stopcoughing.htm

> <http://mms-articles.com/stopcoughing.htm>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Tom!

You make a lot of interesting points, but if anyone were to consider all the risks I take when I get in my car most morning to commute to downtown DC and back, it would be too dangerous.

Jim cautions everyone to become informed before using MMS, which would apply to any substance for that matter. It's human nature to do too much of a good thing, and many people are reluctant to adequately hydrate their body before starting on a cleansing process. Most people I know have never fully hydrated their body and do not know what it feels like.

Your cautions are interesting but has no effect on my willingness to use MMS. With what appears to be a negative outlook regarding the use of MMS, I'm not even sure why you read the postings.

Regards, blessings! Tom G.

>> Let me echo the warnings of breathing chlorine dioxide gas.> > Starting with LennTech> > "Chlorine dioxide gas> > While using chlorine dioxide as a disinfectant, one has to keep in mind that chlorine dioxide gas can escape from a watery solution containing chlorine dioxide. Especially when disinfection takes place in a sealed space, this can be dangerous. When chlorine dioxide concentrations reach 10% or more in air, chlorine dioxide becomes explosive.> > Acute exposure of the skin to chlorine that originates from the decomposition of chlorine dioxide, causes irritations and burns. Eye exposure eyes to chlorine dioxide causes irritations, watering eyes and a blurry sight. Chlorine dioxide gas can be absorbed by the skin, where it damages tissue and blood cells. Inhalation of chlorine dioxide gas causes coughing, a sore throat, severe headaches, lung oedema and bronchio spasma. The symptoms can begin to show long after the exposure has taken place and can remain for a long time. Chronical exposure to chlorine dioxide causes bronchitis. The health standard for chlorine dioxide is 0.1 ppm."> > So, when you expose yourself to chlorine dioxide gas in an effort to heal yourself, expect to experience eye irritation, watering eyes, blurry sight, damage to the skin tissue and blood cells, coughing, sore throat, severe headaches, lung oedema, and bronchio spasma. These symptoms can show up immediately or as long as 72 hours after the exposure.> > These are not Herxheimer effects.> > OSHA has set a time weighted average concentration of 0.1 PPM. This means that if you are exposed to chlorine dioxide gas at a concentration of 0.1 PPM for 8 hours a day and 40 hours a week, this concentration will not produce the adverse effects listed above.> > OSHA also has a short term exposure limit of 0.3 PPM as being acceptable, only if the exposure is limited to 15 minutes.> > How do you know if your exposure has effected you?> > Under the signs and symptoms of exposure OSHA has this:> > "Acute exposure: Acute exposure to chlorine dioxide results in irritation of the eyes, nose, and throat; cough; wheezing; shortness of breath; bronchitis; pulmonary edema; headache; and vomiting [Genium Chronic exposure: Chronic exposure to chlorine dioxide may cause chronic bronchitis and emphysema [sittig 1991]. "> > So, while trying to clear up your runny nose, you may end up with chronic bronchitis and emphysema... Is this really worth the risk?> > Jim Humble evens offers cautions.> > "However, a severe warning is stated - DO NOT OVERDOSE. DO NOT DEEP BREATH THE ClO2 gas into your lungs for any length of time. Your lungs can rapidly absorb the ClO2 gas just as easily as oxygen, causing unexpected depletion of oxygen. Take breaks and breath normal air periodically while doing this procedure. This warning will be repeated several times. IF YOU OVERDOSE AND DEEP BREATH YOU MAY DAMAGE YOUR LUNGS."> > While he understates the actual danger, he does recognize that there is a danger.> > What is even more interesting is that on one hand he cautions against deep breathing chlorine dioxide gas, then he turns around and instructs you to deeply breathe the gas... This leaves a person in some confusion. Industry, OSHA, and Jim Humble all agree that deeply breathing chlorine dioxide gas damages the body, but Jim Humble instructs that if you have bronchial issues you should breathe deeply chlorine dioxide gas. Perhaps he thinks the damage to the body is not as important as killing the bacteria...> > Chlorine dioxide works and damages based upon concentration. A study showed that school children absence from school was greatly reduced when a concentration of 0.01 PPM chlorine dioxide was added to the air in the school. On the other end of the spectrum, animals had problems and showed adverse effects when the concentration of chlorine dioxide in the air was raised to 0.25 PPM.> > Wouldn't it be wise to measure what the concentration of chlorine dioxide gas is from a 3 drop dose of MMS?> > Wouldn't it be wise to measure what the concentration of chlorine dioxide gas is when you add MMS to a humidifier?> > I suppose you could do some trial an error on this. Jim Humble recommends removing pets and birds from the house when using chlorine dioxide to remove fungus or mold. It would be possible to have a pet or bird "sniff" the dose before you try it. If your pet or bird became distressed, you could infer that the concentration is too high... > > There are industrial instruments that can measure the concentration of chlorine dioxide in air, but they are expensive, and require some training to use properly. If anyone knows anyone that works in a pulp mill, mix up a dose and have them check the concentration of gas in a 2 - 3 drop dose of MMS. > > Everyone agrees that chlorine dioxide gas is dangerous. There has been a lot of tests and studies done to protect the health of those that work with these chemicals. Safe levels have been determined. If your health has been compromised, is it worth damaging it in an effort to find healing?> > As a very general guideline, the concentration where you just begin to detect the chlorine dioxide odor is about 0.1 PPM. If it is stronger than just being able to detect it, the concentration is higher.> > Tom

[Guest guest]

Hello Tom,

If I were talking about taking a trip to DC, and mentioned that I was going to

go to what you know to be a " dangerous " part of town, would you not step in and

warn me of the possible dangers?

Chlorine dioxide is a wonderful chemical. It has many applications where it

performs very well. However, there are dangers associated with using it and

being around it. If you are aware of the dangers and avoid them, your

experience will be better.

Tom

>

>

> Hello Tom!

>

> You make a lot of interesting points, but if anyone were to consider all

> the risks I take when I get in my car most morning to commute to

> downtown DC and back, it would be too dangerous.

>

> Jim cautions everyone to become informed before using MMS, which would

> apply to any substance for that matter. It's human nature to do too

> much of a good thing, and many people are reluctant to adequately

> hydrate their body before starting on a cleansing process. Most people

> I know have never fully hydrated their body and do not know what it

> feels like.

>

> Your cautions are interesting but has no effect on my willingness to use

> MMS. With what appears to be a negative outlook regarding the use of

> MMS, I'm not even sure why you read the postings.

>

> Regards, blessings! Tom G.

>