Guest guest Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 Tri Atomic > Does anyone know about an ozone machine called the tri atomic and how it compares with the ananizer. Thanks. > Flynn > 1447 Peachtree St. NE > Suite 414 > Atlanta, Ga. 30309 > > Tao400@... , I don't know about the tri atomic, but I have an Aranizer and LOVE it. It works, is very sturdy, and the company is ethical and cares about its customers. Nina P.S. I don't sell Aranizers (but maybe I should!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2002 Report Share Posted October 1, 2002 > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breath in > ozone directly. Secondly, what unit do you have and how is it deployed in > your house. I stopped using the Alpine because of the potential health > effects. Thanks a lot. I'm not Nina but I'll chime in till she gets here :-) I have an Aranizer also and usually have it running in this small room with the computer, then I park it near my bed and run it all night. Most ozone generators produce nitric oxide, and that's the problem with breathing near them. the Aranizer technology produces none of the NO making it totally safe. Ok, that's the abbreviated laymen's explanation. Nina or Saul can probably say it a lot better! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Re: Tri Atomic > > > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breathe in > > ozone directly. Secondly, what unit do you have and how is it deployed > > in your house. I stopped using the Alpine because of the potential health > > effects. Thanks a lot. > I'm not Nina but I'll chime in till she gets here :-) > I have an Aranizer also and usually have it running in this small room > with the computer, then I park it near my bed and run it all night. > Most ozone generators produce nitric oxide, and that's the problem with > breathing near them. > the Aranizer technology produces none of the NO making it totally safe. > > Ok, that's the abbreviated laymen's explanation. Nina or Saul can > probably say it a lot better! > > Sharon Well, Sharon, I think you said it pretty well Just to amplify it a bit: The problem is NOT that ozone ITSELF is toxic, the problem is all the CONTAMINANTS that come WITH the ozone -- either the ones that are on the ground and attract ozone to *clean up the mess*, or the ones that are produced by the unit that is also producing ozone. It IS true that one should not directly breathe ozone if it's above a certain parts per million (ppm). However, unless you're blasting the Aranizer all the way on high in, say, a closet, I don't forsee any problems. Just turn the levels to where you're comfortable. I have a pretty powerful Aranizer (model SS8) that I use for both the house and the car. The SS8 is powerful enough to clean out a 12 x 20 room in my house; and when I'm going on car trips I bring it to the car and attach it to a converter that plugs into the cigarette lighter. Naturally, I don't turn it on to high in the car. There is an absolutely stupendous article by Dr. Thorpe from the 1940s, I believe, that explains how and why misperceptions about ozone occurred. He details how the original tests were flawed and then quoted every time someone wanted to say something bad about ozone. I have the great fortune to have a copy of this article, to which I referred in my Rife Handbook and will be quoting in my upcoming book on sauna therapy (due out before the end of the year). More later. Regards, Nina Nina Silver, Ph.D. Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Read excerpts from, and order the book at http://www.healingheart-harmonics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Re: Tri Atomic > I was thinking of building a room in my garage for a sauna but someone told > me that a steam shower with ozone is better. Do you have any thoughts on > this. Thanks. > > Also, won't the aranizer's ozone combining with the chemcials in a house for > instance cause the negative combination that you are talking about. Thanks. > Flynn , I have a portable Far Infrared sauna cabinet in my living room and LOVE it. I also know people who rave about their ozone steam saunas. It's probably a matter of preference...You can also equip a FIR sauna with ozone, provided of course that the cabinet material is impervious to ozone and that it's a CABINET as opposed to a room, since the therapeutic amounts of ozone necessary are too high to breathe. You need enough ozone to combine with the nasty chemicals and render them harmless. If you're dealing with a severe problem such as heavy mold, for instance, you really need to leave the house anyway and come back when it's clear. FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ARANIZER, call Ted Trikilis directly at . Tell him I sent you and that you're interested because you heard me raving about my Aranizer. If he knows that you were sent by me and are an informed consumer from the Oxyplus list, he might send you more research materials Nina Nina Silver, Ph.D. Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Read excerpts from, and order the book at http://www.healingheart-harmonics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Re: Tri Atomic > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breath in > ozone directly. Secondly, what unit do you have and how is it deployed in > your house. I stopped using the Alpine because of the potential health > effects. Thanks a lot. , Pure ozone is not toxic. However, it's like anything else that's good for you: If you drink too much carrot juice, your skin will turn yellow. If your lungs become irritated from pure ozone, open the window or leave the room. This will be explained in my sauna therapy book when it comes out. I'll make an announcement to the list when the book is out. Nina Nina Silver, Ph.D. Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Read excerpts from, and order the book at http://www.healingheart-harmonics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 , that is absolutely ridiculas. I've been breathing in ozone from an $750 Alpine Air machine for years. Matter of fact, it gave me a new set of lungs; according to the Doctor examining X-rays. I recently bought new glass plates and I have the Alpine in my office right now. It's on full force. I breathe it in every day. I'm sure you're presently validating but hear us say, from our own personal experience, that's it's okay to breathe. Best regards, Obie. Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breath in ozone directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2002 Report Share Posted October 2, 2002 Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breath in ozone directly. Secondly, what unit do you have and how is it deployed in your house. I stopped using the Alpine because of the potential health effects. Thanks a lot. Flynn 1447 Peachtree St. NE Suite 414 Atlanta, Ga. 30309 Tao400@... Tri Atomic > > > > Does anyone know about an ozone machine called the tri atomic and how it > compares with the ananizer. Thanks. > > Flynn > > 1447 Peachtree St. NE > > Suite 414 > > Atlanta, Ga. 30309 > > > > Tao400@... > > , > I don't know about the tri atomic, but I have an Aranizer and LOVE it. It works, > is very sturdy, and the company is ethical and cares about its customers. > > Nina > P.S. I don't sell Aranizers (but maybe I should!). > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Re: Tri Atomic > , that is absolutely ridiculas. I've been breathing in ozone from an $750 Alpine Air machine for years. Matter of fact, it gave me a new set of lungs; according to the Doctor examining X-rays. I recently bought new glass plates and I have the Alpine in my office right now. It's on full force. I breathe it in every day. I'm sure you're presently validating but hear us say, from our own personal experience, that's it's okay to breathe. Best regards, Obie. > > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breath in > ozone directly. That depends on the CONCENTRATION. It's in my notes someplace up to what concentration can be tolerated without irritation. (Saul would probably have it in the forefront of his brain). Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 I was thinking of building a room in my garage for a sauna but someone told me that a steam shower with ozone is better. Do you have any thoughts on this. Thanks. Also, won't the aranizer's ozone combining with the chemcials in a house for instance cause the negative combination that you are talking about. Thanks. Flynn 1447 Peachtree St. NE Suite 414 Atlanta, Ga. 30309 Tao400@... Re: Tri Atomic > > > > > > > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breathe in > > > ozone directly. Secondly, what unit do you have and how is it deployed > > > in your house. I stopped using the Alpine because of the potential health > > > effects. Thanks a lot. > > > I'm not Nina but I'll chime in till she gets here :-) > > I have an Aranizer also and usually have it running in this small room > > with the computer, then I park it near my bed and run it all night. > > Most ozone generators produce nitric oxide, and that's the problem with > > breathing near them. > > the Aranizer technology produces none of the NO making it totally safe. > > > > Ok, that's the abbreviated laymen's explanation. Nina or Saul can > > probably say it a lot better! > > > > Sharon > > > Well, Sharon, I think you said it pretty well > > Just to amplify it a bit: The problem is NOT that ozone ITSELF is toxic, the > problem is all the CONTAMINANTS that come WITH the ozone -- either the ones that > are on the ground and attract ozone to *clean up the mess*, or the ones that are > produced by the unit that is also producing ozone. > > It IS true that one should not directly breathe ozone if it's above a certain > parts per million (ppm). However, unless you're blasting the Aranizer all the > way on high in, say, a closet, I don't forsee any problems. Just turn the levels > to where you're comfortable. > > I have a pretty powerful Aranizer (model SS8) that I use for both the house and > the car. The SS8 is powerful enough to clean out a 12 x 20 room in my house; and > when I'm going on car trips I bring it to the car and attach it to a converter > that plugs into the cigarette lighter. Naturally, I don't turn it on to high in > the car. > > There is an absolutely stupendous article by Dr. Thorpe from the 1940s, I > believe, that explains how and why misperceptions about ozone occurred. He > details how the original tests were flawed and then quoted every time someone > wanted to say something bad about ozone. I have the great fortune to have a copy > of this article, to which I referred in my Rife Handbook and will be quoting in > my upcoming book on sauna therapy (due out before the end of the year). > > More later. > > Regards, > Nina > > Nina Silver, Ph.D. > Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* > Read excerpts from, and order the book at > http://www.healingheart-harmonics.com > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 , just another comment for you. Those individuals are speaking about the equipment that Dr. Saul Pressman manufactures. That ozone is too concentrated for breathing directly from the generator. The Alpine is all together different; it's okay. Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Re: Tri Atomic > Nina-could you email me your phone number so that I can call you and talk > about saunas. Thanks. > Flynn > 1447 Peachtree St. NE > Suite 414 > Atlanta, Ga. 30309 > EST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 > Re: Tri Atomic > > > > Nina-could you email me your phone number so that I can call you and talk > > about saunas. Thanks. > > Flynn > > 1447 Peachtree St. NE > > Suite 414 > > Atlanta, Ga. 30309 > > Darn, I thought that was private. Jim, please remove from archives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Dear Nina and Obie, People's response to inhaled ozone varies greatly, depending on the contents of their lungs. Clean lungs can handle a lot more. In drier climates, less nitric oxide will be produced by a corona discharge generator (such as Alpine). That is why industrial corona discharge generators are fed air from a drier, which lowers the level of moisture dramatically. Less nitric oxide produced results in less nitric acid forming in the lungs as it hits moisture. And it is the nitric acid that does the damage that ozone is commonly blamed for. A corona discharge generator operated without problems in dry Oklahoma may give big problems if operated in damp San Francisco. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH http://www.plasmafire.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Reply-To: oxyplus To: <oxyplus > Subject: Re: Tri Atomic Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 04:13:39 -0400 Re: Tri Atomic > , that is absolutely ridiculas. I've been breathing in ozone from an $750 Alpine Air machine for years. Matter of fact, it gave me a new set of lungs; according to the Doctor examining X-rays. I recently bought new glass plates and I have the Alpine in my office right now. It's on full force. I breathe it in every day. I'm sure you're presently validating but hear us say, from our own personal experience, that's it's okay to breathe. Best regards, Obie. > > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breath in > ozone directly. That depends on the CONCENTRATION. It's in my notes someplace up to what concentration can be tolerated without irritation. (Saul would probably have it in the forefront of his brain). Nina _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Thank you, Dr. Saul. Is that what an Alpine is; a corona discharge generator? And so you'll know, I'm using the Alpine to increase the oxygen within my system. I'd love to have a Plasmafire and maybe some day. Presently, it's the Alpine and Colostrum--which by the way, because of, I've been able to also reduce my circulation medicine to zero; feet, fingers nice and warm. The best to you, Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Thank you, Dr. Saul. Is that what an Alpine is; a corona discharge generator? And so you'll know, I'm using the Alpine to increase the oxygen within my system. I'd love to have a Plasmafire and maybe some day. Presently, it's the Alpine and Colostrum--which by the way, because of, I've been able to also reduce my circulation medicine to zero; feet, fingers nice and warm. The best to you, Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Thank you, Dr. Saul. Is that what an Alpine is; a corona discharge generator? And so you'll know, I'm using the Alpine to increase the oxygen within my system. I'd love to have a Plasmafire and maybe some day. Presently, it's the Alpine and Colostrum--which by the way, because of, I've been able to also reduce my circulation medicine to zero; feet, fingers nice and warm. The best to you, Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Nina-could you email me your phone number so that I can call you and talk about saunas. Thanks. Flynn 1447 Peachtree St. NE Suite 414 Atlanta, Ga. 30309 Tao400@... Re: Tri Atomic > > > > , that is absolutely ridiculas. I've been breathing in ozone from an > $750 Alpine Air machine for years. Matter of fact, it gave me a new set of > lungs; according to the Doctor examining X-rays. I recently bought new glass > plates and I have the Alpine in my office right now. It's on full force. I > breathe it in every day. I'm sure you're presently validating but hear us say, > from our own personal experience, that's it's okay to breathe. Best regards, > Obie. > > > > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breath in > > ozone directly. > > That depends on the CONCENTRATION. It's in my notes someplace up to what > concentration can be tolerated without irritation. (Saul would probably have it > in the forefront of his brain). > > Nina > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Dear , The Aranizer is not a problem. It does not make nitric oxide even in humid conditions. The Alpine does. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH http://www.plasmafire.com ------------------------------------------------------------- Reply-To: oxyplus To: <oxyplus > Subject: Re: Tri Atomic Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 07:05:01 -0400 Saul, what does what you say mean about the aranizer. Is it okay in the humid south, Atlanta, where I live. Please respond since I have desperately been seeking an air cleanser since I stopped using the Alpine. I am assuming that the alpine would not be okay for the humid south as per your post. thanks. Flynn 1447 Peachtree St. NE Suite 414 Atlanta, Ga. 30309 Tao400@... Re: Tri Atomic > > > > , that is absolutely ridiculas. I've been breathing in ozone from > an > $750 Alpine Air machine for years. Matter of fact, it gave me a new set of > lungs; according to the Doctor examining X-rays. I recently bought new > glass > plates and I have the Alpine in my office right now. It's on full force. I > breathe it in every day. I'm sure you're presently validating but hear us > say, > from our own personal experience, that's it's okay to breathe. Best > regards, > Obie. > > > > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breath in > > ozone directly. > > That depends on the CONCENTRATION. It's in my notes someplace up to what > concentration can be tolerated without irritation. (Saul would probably have > it > in the forefront of his brain). > > Nina > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Dear Obie, Yes, Alpine is an air fed corona discharge generator. I am glad you are experiencing improved health. Keep it up! Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH http://www.plasmafire.com ----------------------------------------------------------- Reply-To: oxyplus To: <oxyplus > Subject: Re: Tri Atomic Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:53:54 -0500 Thank you, Dr. Saul. Is that what an Alpine is; a corona discharge generator? And so you'll know, I'm using the Alpine to increase the oxygen within my system. I'd love to have a Plasmafire and maybe some day. Presently, it's the Alpine and Colostrum--which by the way, because of, I've been able to also reduce my circulation medicine to zero; feet, fingers nice and warm. The best to you, Obie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2002 Report Share Posted October 5, 2002 Saul, what does what you say mean about the aranizer. Is it okay in the humid south, Atlanta, where I live. Please respond since I have desperately been seeking an air cleanser since I stopped using the Alpine. I am assuming that the alpine would not be okay for the humid south as per your post. thanks. Flynn 1447 Peachtree St. NE Suite 414 Atlanta, Ga. 30309 Tao400@... Re: Tri Atomic > > > > , that is absolutely ridiculas. I've been breathing in ozone from > an > $750 Alpine Air machine for years. Matter of fact, it gave me a new set of > lungs; according to the Doctor examining X-rays. I recently bought new > glass > plates and I have the Alpine in my office right now. It's on full force. I > breathe it in every day. I'm sure you're presently validating but hear us > say, > from our own personal experience, that's it's okay to breathe. Best > regards, > Obie. > > > > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breath in > > ozone directly. > > That depends on the CONCENTRATION. It's in my notes someplace up to what > concentration can be tolerated without irritation. (Saul would probably have > it > in the forefront of his brain). > > Nina > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 Dear Dr. Saul, I'm hearing what you're saying. Any defense to the nitric oxide at all; like, can I take something to counteract it or should I just scrub the Alpine and go with an Aranizer? What do you think? Obie. Re: Tri Atomic > > > > , that is absolutely ridiculas. I've been breathing in ozone from > an > $750 Alpine Air machine for years. Matter of fact, it gave me a new set of > lungs; according to the Doctor examining X-rays. I recently bought new > glass > plates and I have the Alpine in my office right now. It's on full force. I > breathe it in every day. I'm sure you're presently validating but hear us > say, > from our own personal experience, that's it's okay to breathe. Best > regards, > Obie. > > > > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breath in > > ozone directly. > > That depends on the CONCENTRATION. It's in my notes someplace up to what > concentration can be tolerated without irritation. (Saul would probably have > it > in the forefront of his brain). > > Nina > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 Dear Obie, I think you should take gypsy up on her offer for the Aranizer, and recycle the Alpine. There is no 'counter' to nitric oxide. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH http://www.plasmafire.com --------------------------------------- Reply-To: oxyplus To: <oxyplus > Subject: Re: Tri Atomic Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 11:30:58 -0500 Dear Dr. Saul, I'm hearing what you're saying. Any defense to the nitric oxide at all; like, can I take something to counteract it or should I just scrub the Alpine and go with an Aranizer? What do you think? Obie. Re: Tri Atomic > > > > , that is absolutely ridiculas. I've been breathing in ozone from > an > $750 Alpine Air machine for years. Matter of fact, it gave me a new set of > lungs; according to the Doctor examining X-rays. I recently bought new > glass > plates and I have the Alpine in my office right now. It's on full force. I > breathe it in every day. I'm sure you're presently validating but hear us > say, > from our own personal experience, that's it's okay to breathe. Best > regards, > Obie. > > > > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breath in > > ozone directly. > > That depends on the CONCENTRATION. It's in my notes someplace up to what > concentration can be tolerated without irritation. (Saul would probably have > it > in the forefront of his brain). > > Nina > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 Thank you, Dr. Saul. It just makes me wonder why it did me so well, cured a case of Emphacema [sp] from smoking for 32 years, cured it right up and I don't know of any lingering problem due to nitric oxide. Thank you, again, Obie. Re: Tri Atomic > > > > , that is absolutely ridiculas. I've been breathing in ozone from > an > $750 Alpine Air machine for years. Matter of fact, it gave me a new set of > lungs; according to the Doctor examining X-rays. I recently bought new > glass > plates and I have the Alpine in my office right now. It's on full force. I > breathe it in every day. I'm sure you're presently validating but hear us > say, > from our own personal experience, that's it's okay to breathe. Best > regards, > Obie. > > > > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not breath in > > ozone directly. > > That depends on the CONCENTRATION. It's in my notes someplace up to what > concentration can be tolerated without irritation. (Saul would probably have > it > in the forefront of his brain). > > Nina > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 >>> >>> Reply-To: oxyplus >>> To: <oxyplus > >>> Subject: Re: Tri Atomic >>> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 11:30:58 -0500 >>> >>> Dear Dr. Saul, >>> >>> I'm hearing what you're saying. Any defense to the nitric oxide at all; >>> like, can I take something to counteract it or should I just scrub the >>> Alpine and go with an Aranizer? What do you think? Obie. >> From: Saul Pressman >> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 2:44 PM >> >> Dear Obie, >> I think you should take gypsy up on her offer for the >> Aranizer, and recycle the Alpine. >> >> There is no 'counter' to nitric oxide. >> >> Best of health! >> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > >Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 4:48 PM > >Thank you, Dr. Saul. It just makes me wonder why it did me so well, cured a >case of Emphacema [sp] from smoking for 32 years, cured it right up and I don't >know of any lingering problem due to nitric oxide. Thank you, again, Obie. I've said this before on the list: While I own and love my Aranizer, and would never buy an Alpine air purifier precisely because of the dangerous nitrogenn compounds, it is ALSO true that SOME people own Alpine units that are better made than the majority of Alpine units seem to be made today. Some people do get good results with their Living Air units. Someone had told me (I forget who) that Alpine used to make better components than they do now. I discovered this myself when a couple of years ago I received a brand new Alpine unit from a friend to try out. The unit worked well, but had been damaged in shipping. When it finally stopped working as a result of the damage, I sent it to the company for repair (it was still under warantee). The unit that was sent back to me was NOT at all like the unit I had been using before it went kaput. I could smell the harmful compounds as soon as I turned on the machine. AND smelling the air actually burned my lungs. I could no longer use the unit. No one at the company understood why I was experiencing this burning sensation or knew anything about the bad smell. Sadly, the people in their quality control division were neither informed nor skillful at fixing the problem. They were using inferior components, and it showed. So, Obie, if you have an Alpine unit that has worked well, and continues to work well, I don't see any reason to switch. I would just advise you, and others, who DO have Alpine units to be aware that they can malfunction -- and when they do, if they're not under warrantee, it might not be worth it to get them repaired, considering the " iffy " quality of the components that are being used today. At that point, I would purchase an Aranizer. Meanwhile, for anyone who needs to buy a brand new air purification system, I would not even consider buying an Alpine and would instead simply go with the Aranizer. Best, Nina Nina Silver, Ph.D. Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Read excerpts from, and order the book at http://www.healingheart-harmonics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 >>> >>> Reply-To: oxyplus >>> To: <oxyplus > >>> Subject: Re: Tri Atomic >>> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 11:30:58 -0500 >>> >>> Dear Dr. Saul, >>> >>> I'm hearing what you're saying. Any defense to the nitric oxide at all; >>> like, can I take something to counteract it or should I just scrub the >>> Alpine and go with an Aranizer? What do you think? Obie. >> From: Saul Pressman >> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 2:44 PM >> >> Dear Obie, >> I think you should take gypsy up on her offer for the >> Aranizer, and recycle the Alpine. >> >> There is no 'counter' to nitric oxide. >> >> Best of health! >> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > >Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 4:48 PM > >Thank you, Dr. Saul. It just makes me wonder why it did me so well, cured a >case of Emphacema [sp] from smoking for 32 years, cured it right up and I don't >know of any lingering problem due to nitric oxide. Thank you, again, Obie. I've said this before on the list: While I own and love my Aranizer, and would never buy an Alpine air purifier precisely because of the dangerous nitrogenn compounds, it is ALSO true that SOME people own Alpine units that are better made than the majority of Alpine units seem to be made today. Some people do get good results with their Living Air units. Someone had told me (I forget who) that Alpine used to make better components than they do now. I discovered this myself when a couple of years ago I received a brand new Alpine unit from a friend to try out. The unit worked well, but had been damaged in shipping. When it finally stopped working as a result of the damage, I sent it to the company for repair (it was still under warantee). The unit that was sent back to me was NOT at all like the unit I had been using before it went kaput. I could smell the harmful compounds as soon as I turned on the machine. AND smelling the air actually burned my lungs. I could no longer use the unit. No one at the company understood why I was experiencing this burning sensation or knew anything about the bad smell. Sadly, the people in their quality control division were neither informed nor skillful at fixing the problem. They were using inferior components, and it showed. So, Obie, if you have an Alpine unit that has worked well, and continues to work well, I don't see any reason to switch. I would just advise you, and others, who DO have Alpine units to be aware that they can malfunction -- and when they do, if they're not under warrantee, it might not be worth it to get them repaired, considering the " iffy " quality of the components that are being used today. At that point, I would purchase an Aranizer. Meanwhile, for anyone who needs to buy a brand new air purification system, I would not even consider buying an Alpine and would instead simply go with the Aranizer. Best, Nina Nina Silver, Ph.D. Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Read excerpts from, and order the book at http://www.healingheart-harmonics.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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