Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 Ms. Nina, I hear you, too. Personally, I'm going to stay put for now. I satisfied with what I have; any future problems, an Aranizer. Thanks to each of you who has helped me make this decision. Obie. Re: Tri Atomic >>> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 11:30:58 -0500 >>> >>> Dear Dr. Saul, >>> >>> I'm hearing what you're saying. Any defense to the nitric oxide at all; >>> like, can I take something to counteract it or should I just scrub the >>> Alpine and go with an Aranizer? What do you think? Obie. >> From: Saul Pressman >> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 2:44 PM >> >> Dear Obie, >> I think you should take gypsy up on her offer for the >> Aranizer, and recycle the Alpine. >> >> There is no 'counter' to nitric oxide. >> >> Best of health! >> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > >Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 4:48 PM > >Thank you, Dr. Saul. It just makes me wonder why it did me so well, cured a >case of Emphacema [sp] from smoking for 32 years, cured it right up and I don't >know of any lingering problem due to nitric oxide. Thank you, again, Obie. I've said this before on the list: While I own and love my Aranizer, and would never buy an Alpine air purifier precisely because of the dangerous nitrogenn compounds, it is ALSO true that SOME people own Alpine units that are better made than the majority of Alpine units seem to be made today. Some people do get good results with their Living Air units. Someone had told me (I forget who) that Alpine used to make better components than they do now. I discovered this myself when a couple of years ago I received a brand new Alpine unit from a friend to try out. The unit worked well, but had been damaged in shipping. When it finally stopped working as a result of the damage, I sent it to the company for repair (it was still under warantee). The unit that was sent back to me was NOT at all like the unit I had been using before it went kaput. I could smell the harmful compounds as soon as I turned on the machine. AND smelling the air actually burned my lungs. I could no longer use the unit. No one at the company understood why I was experiencing this burning sensation or knew anything about the bad smell. Sadly, the people in their quality control division were neither informed nor skillful at fixing the problem. They were using inferior components, and it showed. So, Obie, if you have an Alpine unit that has worked well, and continues to work well, I don't see any reason to switch. I would just advise you, and others, who DO have Alpine units to be aware that they can malfunction -- and when they do, if they're not under warrantee, it might not be worth it to get them repaired, considering the " iffy " quality of the components that are being used today. At that point, I would purchase an Aranizer. Meanwhile, for anyone who needs to buy a brand new air purification system, I would not even consider buying an Alpine and would instead simply go with the Aranizer. Best, Nina Nina Silver, Ph.D. Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Read excerpts from, and order the book at http://www.healingheart-harmonics.com OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 Ms. Nina, I hear you, too. Personally, I'm going to stay put for now. I satisfied with what I have; any future problems, an Aranizer. Thanks to each of you who has helped me make this decision. Obie. Re: Tri Atomic >>> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 11:30:58 -0500 >>> >>> Dear Dr. Saul, >>> >>> I'm hearing what you're saying. Any defense to the nitric oxide at all; >>> like, can I take something to counteract it or should I just scrub the >>> Alpine and go with an Aranizer? What do you think? Obie. >> From: Saul Pressman >> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 2:44 PM >> >> Dear Obie, >> I think you should take gypsy up on her offer for the >> Aranizer, and recycle the Alpine. >> >> There is no 'counter' to nitric oxide. >> >> Best of health! >> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > >Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 4:48 PM > >Thank you, Dr. Saul. It just makes me wonder why it did me so well, cured a >case of Emphacema [sp] from smoking for 32 years, cured it right up and I don't >know of any lingering problem due to nitric oxide. Thank you, again, Obie. I've said this before on the list: While I own and love my Aranizer, and would never buy an Alpine air purifier precisely because of the dangerous nitrogenn compounds, it is ALSO true that SOME people own Alpine units that are better made than the majority of Alpine units seem to be made today. Some people do get good results with their Living Air units. Someone had told me (I forget who) that Alpine used to make better components than they do now. I discovered this myself when a couple of years ago I received a brand new Alpine unit from a friend to try out. The unit worked well, but had been damaged in shipping. When it finally stopped working as a result of the damage, I sent it to the company for repair (it was still under warantee). The unit that was sent back to me was NOT at all like the unit I had been using before it went kaput. I could smell the harmful compounds as soon as I turned on the machine. AND smelling the air actually burned my lungs. I could no longer use the unit. No one at the company understood why I was experiencing this burning sensation or knew anything about the bad smell. Sadly, the people in their quality control division were neither informed nor skillful at fixing the problem. They were using inferior components, and it showed. So, Obie, if you have an Alpine unit that has worked well, and continues to work well, I don't see any reason to switch. I would just advise you, and others, who DO have Alpine units to be aware that they can malfunction -- and when they do, if they're not under warrantee, it might not be worth it to get them repaired, considering the " iffy " quality of the components that are being used today. At that point, I would purchase an Aranizer. Meanwhile, for anyone who needs to buy a brand new air purification system, I would not even consider buying an Alpine and would instead simply go with the Aranizer. Best, Nina Nina Silver, Ph.D. Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Read excerpts from, and order the book at http://www.healingheart-harmonics.com OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 but when does it become dangerous? Saul Pressman wrote: > > Dear Obie, > > I think you should take gypsy up on her offer for the > Aranizer, and recycle the Alpine. > > There is no 'counter' to nitric oxide. > > Best of health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > http://www.plasmafire.com > --------------------------------------- > > > Reply-To: oxyplus > To: <oxyplus > > Subject: Re: Tri Atomic > Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 11:30:58 -0500 > > Dear Dr. Saul, > > I'm hearing what you're saying. Any defense to the nitric oxide at all; > like, can I take something to counteract it or should I just scrub the > Alpine and go with an Aranizer? What do you think? Obie. > > Re: Tri Atomic > > > > > > > , that is absolutely ridiculas. I've been breathing in > ozone > from > > an > > $750 Alpine Air machine for years. Matter of fact, it gave me a new > set > of > > lungs; according to the Doctor examining X-rays. I recently bought > new > > glass > > plates and I have the Alpine in my office right now. It's on full > force. > I > > breathe it in every day. I'm sure you're presently validating but > hear > us > > say, > > from our own personal experience, that's it's okay to breathe. Best > > regards, > > Obie. > > > > > > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not > breath > in > > > ozone directly. > > > > That depends on the CONCENTRATION. It's in my notes someplace up to > what > > concentration can be tolerated without irritation. (Saul would > probably > have > > it > > in the forefront of his brain). > > > > Nina > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability > to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree > to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY > of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 but when does it become dangerous? Saul Pressman wrote: > > Dear Obie, > > I think you should take gypsy up on her offer for the > Aranizer, and recycle the Alpine. > > There is no 'counter' to nitric oxide. > > Best of health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > http://www.plasmafire.com > --------------------------------------- > > > Reply-To: oxyplus > To: <oxyplus > > Subject: Re: Tri Atomic > Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 11:30:58 -0500 > > Dear Dr. Saul, > > I'm hearing what you're saying. Any defense to the nitric oxide at all; > like, can I take something to counteract it or should I just scrub the > Alpine and go with an Aranizer? What do you think? Obie. > > Re: Tri Atomic > > > > > > > , that is absolutely ridiculas. I've been breathing in > ozone > from > > an > > $750 Alpine Air machine for years. Matter of fact, it gave me a new > set > of > > lungs; according to the Doctor examining X-rays. I recently bought > new > > glass > > plates and I have the Alpine in my office right now. It's on full > force. > I > > breathe it in every day. I'm sure you're presently validating but > hear > us > > say, > > from our own personal experience, that's it's okay to breathe. Best > > regards, > > Obie. > > > > > > Nina: what about the fact that some people say you should not > breath > in > > > ozone directly. > > > > That depends on the CONCENTRATION. It's in my notes someplace up to > what > > concentration can be tolerated without irritation. (Saul would > probably > have > > it > > in the forefront of his brain). > > > > Nina > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability > to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree > to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY > of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Dear Scahtzi, When it hits the moisture in the lungs and turns into nitric acid. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH http://www.plasmafire.com -------------------------------------------------------- Reply-To: oxyplus To: oxyplus Subject: Re: Tri Atomic Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 17:00:34 -0600 but when does it become dangerous? Saul Pressman wrote: > > Dear Obie, > > I think you should take gypsy up on her offer for the > Aranizer, and recycle the Alpine. > > There is no 'counter' to nitric oxide. > > Best of health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > http://www.plasmafire.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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