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oh goody goody...

more channneled GIGO and nebulous

prophetic rantings.

why don't these astral necropheliacs ever

channell something concrete and usseful?

water us hydrogen and oxygen... WOW!!!

Dennis

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Dennis,

Funny, I read the same post and thought it very insightful on many

fronts. I found it almost totally concrete & useful. Most particularly,

in relation to GIGO, is the Quantum proposition that one's expectations

determine one's outcome. ;-)

jim :)

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> oh goody goody...

> more channneled GIGO and nebulous

> prophetic rantings.

> why don't these astral necropheliacs ever

> channell something concrete and usseful?

> water us hydrogen and oxygen... WOW!!!

>

> Dennis

>

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I like channelled stuff, .

I think I have Lazaris in my taped collection.

My favorite, though, has always been Seth.

Chuck

If you can't say something nice, say something surrealistic!

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>Jim, I hope this is OK to post but I think there might be quite a few people

>on the list who may enjoy reading it - obviously not Dennis as he obviously

>doesn't think much to channelled material. Anyway it's a transcript (at

>least part of) a seminar on Longevity given by Lazaris in 1990.

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Don't know the answer to why marriage works. was very good to

his Mother and my grandmother said he's be a good husband. She sure

called that one. Both my sisters are on second husbands and all

three of 's brothers were divorced. We lucked out. There were

days...I'm sure you all know those, but somehow the days stretched

into years and here we are. As for a celebration - I had to work

today so we're just going to have some wine before bed. Maybe go to

dinner on Saturday. I know the girls are planning something for

Sunday. They just can't keep a secret.

Jeanine

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Hi Ron--how do you balance these--with supplements like the Schenker

metabolic formulas? My diabetic was on those once through a chiropractor

and felt better (but nothing happened to her blood sugars). I wish I could

have a chat with Schenker about blood sugars.

1. Electrolyte insufficiency imbalance

2. Electrolyte stress imbalance

3. Anaerobic imbalance

4. Dysaerobic imbalance

5. Glucogenic imbalance

6. Ketogenic imbalance

7. Sympathetic imbalance

8. Parasympathetic imbalance

9. Acid imbalance

10.Alkaline imbalance

J.

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Dear Jill,

This is a common fallacy.

Reduction in infant mortality is the major factor changing the statistics,

not increase in longevity.

My family ancestors all reached their 80s going back six generations.

The longest lived people in the world, in Georgia, southern

Russia, have people living over 120 years commonly.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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From: " jill1313 " <jenbooks13@...>

Reply-oxyplus

oxyplus

Subject: Re: Ken/Jill/disease unavoidable?

Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 21:59:48 -0000

I disagree. We live much longer healthier lives today than we did

centuries ago, or even longer. We were much more susceptible to

infection, to pestilence, to the stress of trying to find food and

fighting the elements. Life long ago was not a paradise. Yes there

are toxins today and I agree many people have junky diets, and

certainly modern industry produces lots of stuff tha tis unhealthy--

but we have the choice to avoid it, to eat well, to eat an incredible

variety of organic healthyf oods, buy healthy building materials,

etc. We are really very lucky. We have MUCH longer lifespans than in

previous eras.

> > > > Cell apoptosis, i.e. death, is programmed. We ain't

gonna

> live

> > > > forever. That's not the way our bodies are built, no

matter

> how

> > much

> > > > 02. Let's be realistic.

> > >

> > > Yes let's...

> > >

> > > How precisely did you get 'we can live forever' from what I

> wrote

> > below??

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >> Just like I have said, there is no one cause of

> any " disease " and

> > > >> there is no one cure.

> > >

> > > > Actually, I would disagree with this...

> > > >

> > > > Otto Warburg got the Nobel Prize in 1931 in medicine for

> > > >

> > > > discovering the cause of ALL cancer, which was,

basically,

> oxygen

> > > > deprivation at the cellular level.

> > > >

> > > > I submit to you that this is the physical cause of ALL

> disease,

> > > > although there are different things that can cause this

lack

> of

> > > > oxygen (poor diet, weak genetic structure (from parents

who

> ate a

> > > > poor diet, etc), exposure to chemical toxins, lack of

> exercise,

> > > > etc, combination of these).

> > > >

> > > > So, anything that will eliminate this oxygen deprivation,

> will

> > cure

> > > > any disease. Of course, I am not suggesting that it is

quite

> that

> > > > simple in reality - one would have to STOP doing the

things

> that

> > > > caused the lack of oxygen, and start doing things that

> promoted a

> > > > high oxygen presence at the cellular level, like eating

> properly,

> > > > getting some quality exercise, fresh air, sunshine, etc.,

but

> > ozone

> > > > can definitely remedy the IMMEDIATE problem and SAVE

LIVES,

> > > > REGARDLESS of what specific actions by the one who is

> > sick 'caused'

> > > > the disease in the first place, by promoting a GENERAL

detox

> of

> > > > the body, and promoting a GENERAL increase in tissue

> oxygenation

> > at

> > > > the cellular level.

> >

> >

> >

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In a message dated 10/1/04 12:48:32 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> Imagine -- 94 years on this earth, lived through the Great Depression, and

> two world wars; had her husband off in India during W.W.II, while she was

> home in the USA with a baby, a little boy, and rationing; raised two kids; had

> a son who was lost to the family; suffered from painful arthritis all through

> her body -- and never needed an antidepressant!

Dear Gertie: WOW! She had such a long life. And I'm sure you have many

fond memories to carry with you. Had she been inthe clutches of psychiatry she

never would've made it to 94! So sorry for you loss, but I'm sure there is

plenty you still have to celebrate in having had her for so many years.

Blessings to you and your family.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

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Before I had my first hip put in I was told the hip would last 30

years. I was 39 years old.

One time I visited the surgeon and I had been bushwalking the day

before. He exclaimed " Oh, come on now, take it easy. We were hoping

this hip would last you for 10 years. "

I asked him what happened to 30 years and he shrugged and said, " Well

technically it is possible, but not likely. "

My hip lasted 12 years before the surgeons started telling me I needed

a new hip. I had just started a new job - that very day - and was

horrified. At 14.5 years I realise I left it far too long. But

that's life.

My surgeon is talking about this one lasting 10 years before needing

to be redone. I really don't want to have it again.

The first op was life giving to someone who was wheelchair bound and

unable to be an active participant of life.

I'm 9 weeks post op this time and still taking pain killers -

something I had not expected. The other thing that is a killer is

that I am off work until next year. I had intended going back first

week in November. Surgeon says NO!

I suppose it depends who you want to believe. As an ex nurse I knew

30 years with these new hips was unrealistic. (Although the old

charnleys did). I wanted to believe it at the time.

There were two reasons my hip failed. One was simply that I wore out

the plastic liner, and the steel cup. There was gross metalosis. The

surgeon told me that Osteolysis had caused my body to try to get rid

of the plastic liner debris and this had caused a weakening of the

bone holding the cup in. The cup had become completely loose, and

each time I stood up I would have to wiggle until I put it into a

position I could walk in. So I had a floating cup, and a worn out

liner. Both reasons in themselves to have the hip revised.

Sorry everyone - I have written a novel here. Hope it helps sebdoc!

Margaret From Australia

>

> Is it true that with a THR there is a definite time before a revision

> is necessaty? Does the amount of exercise/movement after the

> operation effect the longevity? Are any new materials being developed

> that may provide a longer period of time? I am pre-op and want to

> prepare myself for the invevitable post-op life.

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> Is it true that with a THR there is a definite time before a

revision

> is necessaty?

No, that is not true. An average for metal/poly bearings seems to be

that there is a one percent chance of failure for each year. So, for

example, the likelihood that a m/p hip is still in place and

functioning at 15 years is 85%. There are many variables that could

affect longevity. I'm sure there are many that are still functioning

after 20+ years. Keep in mind that these figures are for prostheses

installed many years ago. The statistics for hips implanted today

may turn out to show even longer hip-life with improvements in

material which have been made.

Does the amount of exercise/movement after the

> operation effect the longevity?

Yes, it can and this is one reason that surgeons sometimes don't

want to do THRs on young people - they are more likely to outlive

their hip (but see my answer to your question about material below),

or more to the point the amount and kind of exercise and movement can

affect longevity. This is not a reason to avoid activity after THR

since there are other health benefits to exercise and living a full

life.

Hip life might be extended if one avoids a lot of high-impact

activities such as sports that involve running and jumping or

involves movements and activities with a higher-than-average risk of

accident which might involve fracture. There are positional

limitations, especially during the first few months but it is likely

that those limitations would be eased as one recovers.

Are any new materials being developed

> that may provide a longer period of time?

Yes, there are newer alternatives to the gold standard metal/poly

hip. One that has been recently FDA approved is a ceramic/ceramic

bearing. Another coupling involves metal/metal. For example, a

ceramic/ceramic bearing would generate less tiny debris (when

compared with metal/poly) which can ultimately cause aseptic

loosening. Metal/metal bearings are controversial in some camps

because of the possibility of accumulating metal ions in the body.

No matter which material you ultimately receive, a very important

part of the equation is the skill of the surgeon. Find one who has

done lots of successful procedures on hips like yours. Make sure he

is aware of your needs and the kind of life-style and activities you

do in your work and in recreation.

I am pre-op and want to

> prepare myself for the invevitable post-op life.

After my THRs I can tell you that life post-op is a whole lot nicer

than the pre-op life of pain and disability that I endured (for too

long). Lots of luck in your planning.

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Hi Peg

I am one of those " young hippies " as you describe us!

I am 28 and had a ceramic hip nearly 3 weeks ago. I

have read everything that has already been sent to you

and agree with all of it. There is a chance that the

ceramic hip will break or shatter from high impact

activities, or a car crash and the risk of dislocation

is high. True there is also the chance that you have

a dud hip from a dodgy batch, but then there are risks

in all of these hip replacements and a great deal of

the decision comes down to what you want your hip for.

The past 3 weeks for me have been 3 of the best weeks

of my life (she says with a tear in her eye!) My

joint is not cemented (again due to my age) and so I

am non weight bearing, which is frustrating. I can

already do things that I havent been able to do since

I was 7 and I am only 3 weeks post op. I sit and lie

without pain and walk, with the use of my crutches for

as long as my hands dont hurt! I am absolutely amazed

at how I feel and the only thing that is bugging me is

that I have to wait another 4 weeks to see my surgeon

and see how things are progressing and maybe put some

weight on it. BUT those are 4 weeks I will happily

sit around for.

Im waffling, sorry.

Basically I felt I didnt really have a decision to

make, I needed a hip and I felt that a ceramic one

would give me the best possible chance of staying out

of a wheelchair for the rest of my life. I was happy

to take the risk.

Good luck

Liney

p.s. Has anyone heard from Leigh as she will be 2

weeks post op today and I havent heard from her yet, I

guess she is busy healing

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Liney,

I'm glad that you are doing so well. The wait is well worth it.

The next four weeks will fly. The one thing in common that all

these devices have is that the hip pain many of us have had for so

long is gone instantly. Good to hear that your pain is gone also.

Take care,

Fred

Dr. Gross, C2K 1/21/04

> Hi Peg

>

> I am one of those " young hippies " as you describe us!

> I am 28 and had a ceramic hip nearly 3 weeks ago. I

> have read everything that has already been sent to you

> and agree with all of it. There is a chance that the

> ceramic hip will break or shatter from high impact

> activities, or a car crash and the risk of dislocation

> is high. True there is also the chance that you have

> a dud hip from a dodgy batch, but then there are risks

> in all of these hip replacements and a great deal of

> the decision comes down to what you want your hip for.

> The past 3 weeks for me have been 3 of the best weeks

> of my life (she says with a tear in her eye!) My

> joint is not cemented (again due to my age) and so I

> am non weight bearing, which is frustrating. I can

> already do things that I havent been able to do since

> I was 7 and I am only 3 weeks post op. I sit and lie

> without pain and walk, with the use of my crutches for

> as long as my hands dont hurt! I am absolutely amazed

> at how I feel and the only thing that is bugging me is

> that I have to wait another 4 weeks to see my surgeon

> and see how things are progressing and maybe put some

> weight on it. BUT those are 4 weeks I will happily

> sit around for.

>

> Im waffling, sorry.

> Basically I felt I didnt really have a decision to

> make, I needed a hip and I felt that a ceramic one

> would give me the best possible chance of staying out

> of a wheelchair for the rest of my life. I was happy

> to take the risk.

>

> Good luck

> Liney

>

> p.s. Has anyone heard from Leigh as she will be 2

> weeks post op today and I havent heard from her yet, I

> guess she is busy healing

>

>

>

>

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I had my hip replaced 33 days ago,(at age 50) with a ceramic joint.

I was thinking that would be best for me after I did some research,

but wondered how many Drs. I would have to see to get one. Luckily,

the first OS Dr. I went to recommended a ceramic hip. He said at my

age it was the only way to go. If I had come to him two years

earlier, (before, or early on in the ceramic hips history, in this

country) he would have told me to come back in a few years. He said

if I am careful, it should last me the rest of my life.

The larger ball size that some of the m/m people get is a plus. But

mine is 36mm, which hopefully will be a good compramise between

easier dislocation of smaller balls, and longer wear of ceramic,

without producing any increased metal ions. We will see.

Good luck with yours,

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Hi Liney,

I remember when you went for your operation ,I'm glad to hear your doing so good and I wish you a speedy recovery and have a nice day, I was wondering about you and Leigh Well I was glad you posted a E-mail .

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Hi PegI am one of those "young hippies" as you describe us!I am 28 and had a ceramic hip nearly 3 weeks ago. Ihave read everything that has already been sent to youand agree with all of it. There is a chance that theceramic hip will break or shatter from high impactactivities, or a car crash and the risk of dislocationis high. True there is also the chance that you havea dud hip from a dodgy batch, but then there are risksin all of these hip replacements and a great deal ofthe decision comes down to what you want your hip for.The past 3 weeks for me have been 3 of the best weeksof my life (she says with a tear in her eye!) Myjoint is not cemented (again due to my age) and so Iam non weight bearing, which is frustrating. I canalready do things that I havent been able to do sinceI was 7 and I am only 3 weeks post

op. I sit and liewithout pain and walk, with the use of my crutches foras long as my hands dont hurt! I am absolutely amazedat how I feel and the only thing that is bugging me isthat I have to wait another 4 weeks to see my surgeonand see how things are progressing and maybe put someweight on it. BUT those are 4 weeks I will happilysit around for.Im waffling, sorry.Basically I felt I didnt really have a decision tomake, I needed a hip and I felt that a ceramic onewould give me the best possible chance of staying outof a wheelchair for the rest of my life. I was happyto take the risk.Good luckLineyp.s. Has anyone heard from Leigh as she will be 2weeks post op today and I havent heard from her yet, Iguess she is busy healing___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun!

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Hi Suzanne

I,too, am 3 weeks post op with a ceramic hip. I have

to remain non weight bearing till I see my surgeon Nov

17. I am grateful that thanks to medicare a nurse and

PT come to the house to keep track of coumadin level,

do exercises, etc. My leg is ever so much more mobile

than before the surgery. I take vicadin(sp?) for pain

and try to switch to tylenol. Dealing with pain seems

to keep me tired. I'm sure glad to have the operation

behind me. I'll be more glad when I can drive again.

Thanks to all of you for your sharing of your

experiences. I felt and still feel support from you.

RUTH

--- SUZANNE SNYDER <juneflower60@...> wrote:

> Hi Liney,

> I remember when you went for your operation ,I'm

> glad to hear your doing so good and I wish you a

> speedy recovery and have a nice day, I was wondering

> about you and Leigh Well I was glad you posted a

> E-mail .

>

> Susie

>

> bee Buxton <beeme_99@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Peg

>

> I am one of those " young hippies " as you describe

> us!

> I am 28 and had a ceramic hip nearly 3 weeks ago. I

> have read everything that has already been sent to

> you

> and agree with all of it. There is a chance that the

> ceramic hip will break or shatter from high impact

> activities, or a car crash and the risk of

> dislocation

> is high. True there is also the chance that you have

> a dud hip from a dodgy batch, but then there are

> risks

> in all of these hip replacements and a great deal of

> the decision comes down to what you want your hip

> for.

> The past 3 weeks for me have been 3 of the best

> weeks

> of my life (she says with a tear in her eye!) My

> joint is not cemented (again due to my age) and so I

> am non weight bearing, which is frustrating. I can

> already do things that I havent been able to do

> since

> I was 7 and I am only 3 weeks post op. I sit and lie

> without pain and walk, with the use of my crutches

> for

> as long as my hands dont hurt! I am absolutely

> amazed

> at how I feel and the only thing that is bugging me

> is

> that I have to wait another 4 weeks to see my

> surgeon

> and see how things are progressing and maybe put

> some

> weight on it. BUT those are 4 weeks I will happily

> sit around for.

>

> Im waffling, sorry.

> Basically I felt I didnt really have a decision to

> make, I needed a hip and I felt that a ceramic one

> would give me the best possible chance of staying

> out

> of a wheelchair for the rest of my life. I was happy

> to take the risk.

>

> Good luck

> Liney

>

> p.s. Has anyone heard from Leigh as she will be 2

> weeks post op today and I havent heard from her yet,

> I

> guess she is busy healing

>

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Randy, I take some 140 pills a day, plus a morning shake that has

about 25 powdered and liquid ingredients. Fighting inflammation,

reduction of insulin levels, boosting my immune system, maintaining

the proper pH level, maintaining good cellular hydration, filling my

body with a *wide* range of anti-oxidants, maintaining low

cholesterol (142 currently) and blood pressure, maintaining young

hormone levels, and many others -- these are key goals of my program.

My health is currently optimal, which means at 43 I have hormone

levels equal to when I was 30, and I am in tip-top physical shape,

probably better than 95% of all teenagers or 20 year olds. (Which,

sadly in our fast food society, isn't saying much these days.)

I've gotten my family on the program, and some of my friends, who've

seen remarkable improvements in their health. My father, at 68

years old, who once had a mild heart attack and used to be on a

statin drug, is now off all medication and climbs the highest

mountains in the USA, going on 3-4 trips a year. He's knees used to

be a wreck, but the supplements I put him on have erased the

problem. His doctor doesn't understand how he's improved like he

has, and just says " keep doing whatever you're doing " . I even have

my pets on a small list of supplements, such as fish oil and a joint

protection formula.

I spend about $5000 a year on all of my preventative health care.

Some of my friends think I'm nuts. Will they still think that when

we're in our 60's and 70's?

> " The smart thing is to take every step available now

> to improve one's

> health condition and slow down the aging processes.

> Resveratrol,

> anti-oxidants, proper nutrition, hormones, exercise,

> fish oil, and

> dozens of other supplements all work toward this goal.

> To not make

> use of all of these currently available tactics is a

> blunder that

> will come back to haunt these thick heads. "

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My husband and I take about 80 pills, I'm curious what

are the 140 pills you take and what's in your morning

shake ?

--- game_investor <game_investor@...> wrote:

>

> Randy, I take some 140 pills a day, plus a morning

> shake that has

> about 25 powdered and liquid ingredients. Fighting

> inflammation,

> reduction of insulin levels, boosting my immune

> system, maintaining

> the proper pH level, maintaining good cellular

> hydration, filling my

> body with a *wide* range of anti-oxidants,

> maintaining low

> cholesterol (142 currently) and blood pressure,

> maintaining young

> hormone levels, and many others -- these are key

> goals of my program.

>

> My health is currently optimal, which means at 43 I

> have hormone

> levels equal to when I was 30, and I am in tip-top

> physical shape,

> probably better than 95% of all teenagers or 20 year

> olds. (Which,

> sadly in our fast food society, isn't saying much

> these days.)

>

> I've gotten my family on the program, and some of my

> friends, who've

> seen remarkable improvements in their health. My

> father, at 68

> years old, who once had a mild heart attack and used

> to be on a

> statin drug, is now off all medication and climbs

> the highest

> mountains in the USA, going on 3-4 trips a year.

> He's knees used to

> be a wreck, but the supplements I put him on have

> erased the

> problem. His doctor doesn't understand how he's

> improved like he

> has, and just says " keep doing whatever you're

> doing " . I even have

> my pets on a small list of supplements, such as fish

> oil and a joint

> protection formula.

>

> I spend about $5000 a year on all of my preventative

> health care.

> Some of my friends think I'm nuts. Will they still

> think that when

> we're in our 60's and 70's?

>

>

>

>

> > " The smart thing is to take every step available

> now

> > to improve one's

> > health condition and slow down the aging

> processes.

> > Resveratrol,

> > anti-oxidants, proper nutrition, hormones,

> exercise,

> > fish oil, and

> > dozens of other supplements all work toward this

> goal.

> > To not make

> > use of all of these currently available tactics is

> a

> > blunder that

> > will come back to haunt these thick heads. "

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

> My father, at 68

> years old, who once had a mild heart attack and used to be on a

> statin drug, is now off all medication and climbs the highest

> mountains in the USA, going on 3-4 trips a year. He's knees used to

> be a wreck, but the supplements I put him on have erased the

> problem. His doctor doesn't understand how he's improved like he

> has, and just says " keep doing whatever you're doing " .

What supplements did you recommend for your dad's knees?

Al

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, I'm curious what supplements you think had the

most impact on your Dad's knees? Thanks, Randy

--- game_investor <game_investor@...> wrote:

>

> Randy, I take some 140 pills a day, plus a morning

> shake that has

> about 25 powdered and liquid ingredients. Fighting

> inflammation,

> reduction of insulin levels, boosting my immune

> system, maintaining

> the proper pH level, maintaining good cellular

> hydration, filling my

> body with a *wide* range of anti-oxidants,

> maintaining low

> cholesterol (142 currently) and blood pressure,

> maintaining young

> hormone levels, and many others -- these are key

> goals of my program.

>

> My health is currently optimal, which means at 43 I

> have hormone

> levels equal to when I was 30, and I am in tip-top

> physical shape,

> probably better than 95% of all teenagers or 20 year

> olds. (Which,

> sadly in our fast food society, isn't saying much

> these days.)

>

> I've gotten my family on the program, and some of my

> friends, who've

> seen remarkable improvements in their health. My

> father, at 68

> years old, who once had a mild heart attack and used

> to be on a

> statin drug, is now off all medication and climbs

> the highest

> mountains in the USA, going on 3-4 trips a year.

> He's knees used to

> be a wreck, but the supplements I put him on have

> erased the

> problem. His doctor doesn't understand how he's

> improved like he

> has, and just says " keep doing whatever you're

> doing " . I even have

> my pets on a small list of supplements, such as fish

> oil and a joint

> protection formula.

>

> I spend about $5000 a year on all of my preventative

> health care.

> Some of my friends think I'm nuts. Will they still

> think that when

> we're in our 60's and 70's?

>

>

>

>

> > " The smart thing is to take every step available

> now

> > to improve one's

> > health condition and slow down the aging

> processes.

> > Resveratrol,

> > anti-oxidants, proper nutrition, hormones,

> exercise,

> > fish oil, and

> > dozens of other supplements all work toward this

> goal.

> > To not make

> > use of all of these currently available tactics is

> a

> > blunder that

> > will come back to haunt these thick heads. "

>

>

>

>

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-- I am also interested in the supplements and dosages you are

taking. Also, your Dad's supplements.

Thanks-- Deborah

Randy McArthur wrote:

>, I'm curious what supplements you think had the

>most impact on your Dad's knees? Thanks, Randy

>

>--- game_investor <game_investor@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>>Randy, I take some 140 pills a day, plus a morning

>>shake that has

>>about 25 powdered and liquid ingredients. Fighting

>>inflammation,

>>reduction of insulin levels, boosting my immune

>>system, maintaining

>>the proper pH level, maintaining good cellular

>>hydration, filling my

>>body with a *wide* range of anti-oxidants,

>>maintaining low

>>cholesterol (142 currently) and blood pressure,

>>maintaining young

>>hormone levels, and many others -- these are key

>>goals of my program.

>>

>>My health is currently optimal, which means at 43 I

>>have hormone

>>levels equal to when I was 30, and I am in tip-top

>>physical shape,

>>probably better than 95% of all teenagers or 20 year

>>olds. (Which,

>>sadly in our fast food society, isn't saying much

>>these days.)

>>

>>I've gotten my family on the program, and some of my

>>friends, who've

>>seen remarkable improvements in their health. My

>>father, at 68

>>years old, who once had a mild heart attack and used

>>to be on a

>>statin drug, is now off all medication and climbs

>>the highest

>>mountains in the USA, going on 3-4 trips a year.

>>He's knees used to

>>be a wreck, but the supplements I put him on have

>>erased the

>>problem. His doctor doesn't understand how he's

>>improved like he

>>has, and just says " keep doing whatever you're

>>doing " . I even have

>>my pets on a small list of supplements, such as fish

>>oil and a joint

>>protection formula.

>>

>>I spend about $5000 a year on all of my preventative

>>health care.

>>Some of my friends think I'm nuts. Will they still

>>think that when

>>we're in our 60's and 70's?

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> " The smart thing is to take every step available

>>>

>>>

>>now

>>

>>

>>>to improve one's

>>>health condition and slow down the aging

>>>

>>>

>>processes.

>>

>>

>>>Resveratrol,

>>>anti-oxidants, proper nutrition, hormones,

>>>

>>>

>>exercise,

>>

>>

>>>fish oil, and

>>>dozens of other supplements all work toward this

>>>

>>>

>>goal.

>>

>>

>>>To not make

>>>use of all of these currently available tactics is

>>>

>>>

>>a

>>

>>

>>>blunder that

>>>will come back to haunt these thick heads. "

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

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I've been asked this question so many times that for the last month

I've been slowly putting together my full list as a blog entry,

which I'll go live with in a week or two, and post the URL here.

Keep in mind, even though I take some 140-150 pills a day, many are

duplicates. For example, I take 6 EPA/DHA fish oil pills a day, and

two resveratrol, and so on. I have a morning batch, a pre-bed

batch, and a less critical batch I keep at work for mid-day, that I

don't end up taking on the weekends.

> > > " The smart thing is to take every step available

> > now

> > > to improve one's

> > > health condition and slow down the aging

> > processes.

> > > Resveratrol,

> > > anti-oxidants, proper nutrition, hormones,

> > exercise,

> > > fish oil, and

> > > dozens of other supplements all work toward this

> > goal.

> > > To not make

> > > use of all of these currently available tactics is

> > a

> > > blunder that

> > > will come back to haunt these thick heads. "

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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I started him on...

o A Glucosamine Chonodroitin combination -- 4 grams daily.

o Hyaluronic Acid (from Purity Products) -- 6 pills daily

http://www.purityproducts.com/product.asp?sku=134

o SAM-e -- 400mg daily, 2 pills

o MSM - one gram daily, 1 pill

o Flexagen pills, 2 per day

http://www.flexagenotc.com/

He also takes a lot of other things that generally reduce

inflammation in the body, and undoubtedly help with joints.

>

> Hi ,

>

> > My father, at 68

> > years old, who once had a mild heart attack and used to be on a

> > statin drug, is now off all medication and climbs the highest

> > mountains in the USA, going on 3-4 trips a year. He's knees

used to

> > be a wreck, but the supplements I put him on have erased the

> > problem. His doctor doesn't understand how he's improved like

he

> > has, and just says " keep doing whatever you're doing " .

>

> What supplements did you recommend for your dad's knees?

>

> Al

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Just to be clear, my dad is a great " patient " and has pretty much

accepted everything I've asked him to take, plus I also pay for him

to go to the gym three times a week and do strength conditioning

with a trainer. He's really bought into the " program, " as I call

it. He takes a lot of other supplements, which I'm sure have a

synergistic benefit for his knees and other joints. But the ones I

listed previously are the only most targeted to these concerns.

I firmly believe in whole body health, and what helps one part of

the body likely helps the entire body to some extent, because all of

our body's systems are somewhat interconnected and provide feedback

to each other. It's really important to keep the entire chemistry

set -- which is how I view the body -- in balance.

> >>> " The smart thing is to take every step available

> >>>

> >>>

> >>now

> >>

> >>

> >>>to improve one's

> >>>health condition and slow down the aging

> >>>

> >>>

> >>processes.

> >>

> >>

> >>>Resveratrol,

> >>>anti-oxidants, proper nutrition, hormones,

> >>>

> >>>

> >>exercise,

> >>

> >>

> >>>fish oil, and

> >>>dozens of other supplements all work toward this

> >>>

> >>>

> >>goal.

> >>

> >>

> >>>To not make

> >>>use of all of these currently available tactics is

> >>>

> >>>

> >>a

> >>

> >>

> >>>blunder that

> >>>will come back to haunt these thick heads. "

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Do you have any side effects? eg, skin problems? Lately, I have skin

issues I have never had before and suspect hormone supplements w/o any

real effort at substantiation.

On Dec 17, 2004, at 1:45 PM, game_investor wrote:

>

>

> I've been asked this question so many times that for the last month

> I've been slowly putting together my full list as a blog entry,

> which I'll go live with in a week or two, and post the URL here.

>

> Keep in mind, even though I take some 140-150 pills a day, many are

> duplicates. For example, I take 6 EPA/DHA fish oil pills a day, and

> two resveratrol, and so on. I have a morning batch, a pre-bed

> batch, and a less critical batch I keep at work for mid-day, that I

> don't end up taking on the weekends.

>

>

>

>

>>>> " The smart thing is to take every step available

>>> now

>>>> to improve one's

>>>> health condition and slow down the aging

>>> processes.

>>>> Resveratrol,

>>>> anti-oxidants, proper nutrition, hormones,

>>> exercise,

>>>> fish oil, and

>>>> dozens of other supplements all work toward this

>>> goal.

>>>> To not make

>>>> use of all of these currently available tactics is

>>> a

>>>> blunder that

>>>> will come back to haunt these thick heads. "

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>> __________________________________________________

>>

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It seems a hard arguement regarding benefits of NT living as opposed to SAD diet

lifestyle that apparently has allowed irresponsible nutrition and STILL longer

life than our ancestors.

However consider that not ALL our ancestors had a well balanced diet, clean

water, survivable work condition, sanitary environment .... and extra ordinary

medical intervention.

If you consider that people living in urban settings lived with open sewers,

non-fresh food supply, coal and wood smoke filled 'homes " , bed bugs, lice,

fleas in their bedding, bugs and fine organic particles falling on them through

the night to clog their respatory system, cold drafts, etc.

Add to it that cheap food was the mainstay, mono menu, mostly gruel, bread and

what produce like cabbage, onions , turnips or what ever was at hand.

Hardly a nutritional balanced diet...and little quality meat or seafood for the

most part.

Yes , the food back then did not have pesticides, artificial chemical

preservatives (although heavy salting and nitrites was common), or untested

genetic manipulation (they did do genetic manipulation by cross breeding, such

as the Romans breeding sweet almonds which dont have the natural anti cancer

chemicals). But then they did not as a rule rotate crops, re-enrich the soils

from concentrated farming or provide steady irrigation.

Yes, there were pockets of fine nutitional living...but not that common. So with

the advent of more accessible food distribution, albeit not perfect, it was

better than they ever had before.

Now imagine with the modern marvels AND edducated nutritional eatting available

to us today, what healthier lifestyle we can enjoy.

Environmental hazards are less in many ways, our workplaces generally less

opportunity for maiming or death.

In the old days a simple accident like breaking a leg, was often a death

sentence. Today, most survive heart attacks and even kidney transplants adding

another 20-30 years sometimes to the lifespan.

If we marry the tech with the NT what a GREATER situation we would have.

:-)

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Hi ,

There are folks here who have children who have appeared to have

outgrown . For example, my son fevered for about 2 to 2.5 years

and has not had a fever since June 2006. Of course, there is always

the chance that the fevers can come back . . . but we can only hope

not. So there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

in Tampa

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