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Tree and Aimee-

Thanks for the kind thoughts. Tree, I believe parvo virus first appeared in canines and it is fatal for them. Somehow, it mutated into a human virus too. Children usually get it in the form of Fifth disease which generally involves a rash and red cheeks and can be otherwise pretty much symptom free. In adults it's less common, but it also attacks the joints and there's nausea, etc. Aimee, when I was looking this virus up on the internet, I saw that it is known to be a trigger for RA and lupus for people predisposed to it. Naturally, I'm concerned because I wouldn't have thought was predisposed, but there's obviously a gene somewhere. I spent yesterday morning soaking my hands, but couldn't loosen them up. This is enlightening. It makes you realize how much joint pain can impact so many aspects of your life. Hope you all are feeling well.

Diane (, 3, pauci)

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Georgina-

Thanks. I'm not doing so bad today. My hands (which have hurt the worst) are only mildly achy today. I'm still awaiting test results which will likely take a few days. Maybe I'll be better before I get them. :-) This has been odd, but I consider it a good learning experience. As I said, I'm just in awe of all those kids and jra-vets who have to live with that pain every day for always. It impacts your daily activities in countless ways. Hard not to be cranky.

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Hi Diane,

I just finished reading all the messages about Parvo. Thank you (everyone) for helping me to understand it better. Has it been confirmed, that the Parvo virus is what is causing your sore joints? I don't know how long it takes once the test is over, before they know. I do hope that this will last 'only a few weeks' though. That, in itself, seems too long but compared to the prospect of living with a chronic auto-immune disorder ... ? With doing so relatively well these days it must feel strange for you, now, to be waking up each day to the pain of sore joints. I hope you're feeling better soon.

Take Care,

Georgina

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Tree and Aimee- Thanks for the kind thoughts. Tree, I believe parvo virus first appeared in canines and it is fatal for them. Somehow, it mutated into a human virus too. Children usually get it in the form of Fifth disease which generally involves a rash and red cheeks and can be otherwise pretty much symptom free. In adults it's less common, but it also attacks the joints and there's nausea, etc. Aimee, when I was looking this virus up on the internet, I saw that it is known to be a trigger for RA and lupus for people predisposed to it. Naturally, I'm concerned because I wouldn't have thought was predisposed, but there's obviously a gene somewhere. I spent yesterday morning soaking my hands, but couldn't loosen them up. This is enlightening. It makes you realize how much joint pain can impact so many aspects of your life. Hope you all are feeling well. Diane (, 3, pauci)

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From Dr. Belfield's book, How to Have a Healthy Dog

" When parvo reached the San area, I began getting calls from worried

dog owners whohad heard the worst. " Do you have the vaccine? " people wanted

to know. No, none available,we' d tell them If the caller was one of our

clients we would ask if their animal was getting vitamin C every day.

Usually they said yes. If not, we strongly urged them to start. " Keep the

dog on vitamin C and this will keep the immune system strong and hopefully

prevent parvovirus " we would tell them. I have not heard of a single case of

parvovirus among dogs receiving vitamin C alone or Vitamin C along with a

general vitamin-mineral program. These are dogs who, for the most part did

not receive any vaccine.

In treatment I found vitamin C in even heavier doses than I use for viral

conditions to be effective in the dozen or so cases I saw during the latter

half of l980. This is significant. ... normally for virus conditions would

use a half-gram of sodium ascorbate intravenously per pound of body weight.

And this is what I used on Kazan, a year old spitz who was the first

parvovirus case brought in. After a few days I didn't seem to be making

satisfactory headway so I decided to step up the dosage to two grams per

pound. And this worked very well. It worked so well that I continued this

dosage with all the other cases also administering medication and fluids to

offset the symptoms of vomiting, diarrhea, and dehydration. the vitamin C

controls the virus in about 48 hours. The animal starts to show signs on

recovery. the vomitng subsides. There is still some diarrhea but it is no

longer bloody. during the next forty-eight hours we give the animal a

multimineral tablet and a protein concentrate along with the vitamin C. this

helps to strengthen the dog who up to now has not touched any food.Around

the fourth day we find the appetite returning and the animal becomes

livelier. In five days we have been able to send our cases home. Both in

prevention and treatment, vitamin C can play a big role in this most current

and worrisome of the canine viruses. " .

Dr. Belfield is a graduate of Tuskegee Institute of Veterinary Medicine.

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This falls right in line with the fact that dogs produce their own Vitamin C

(humans do not produce their own Vit-C). When the dog is under stress, the dogs

systems switch over to protect/fight the disease/problem and during this time,

they stop producing Vit-C. This is when you supplement Vit-C to a dog. If

Vit-C is given to a dog regularly, it causes their internal production to reduce

or stop all together.

>

> From Dr. Belfield's book, How to Have a Healthy Dog

>

>

> " When parvo reached the San area, I began getting calls from worried

> dog owners whohad heard the worst. " Do you have the vaccine? " people wanted

> to know. No, none available,we' d tell them If the caller was one of our

> clients we would ask if their animal was getting vitamin C every day.

> Usually they said yes. If not, we strongly urged them to start. " Keep the

> dog on vitamin C and this will keep the immune system strong and hopefully

> prevent parvovirus " we would tell them. I have not heard of a single case of

> parvovirus among dogs receiving vitamin C alone or Vitamin C along with a

> general vitamin-mineral program. These are dogs who, for the most part did

> not receive any vaccine.

>

> In treatment I found vitamin C in even heavier doses than I use for viral

> conditions to be effective in the dozen or so cases I saw during the latter

> half of l980. This is significant. ... normally for virus conditions would

> use a half-gram of sodium ascorbate intravenously per pound of body weight.

> And this is what I used on Kazan, a year old spitz who was the first

> parvovirus case brought in. After a few days I didn't seem to be making

> satisfactory headway so I decided to step up the dosage to two grams per

> pound. And this worked very well. It worked so well that I continued this

> dosage with all the other cases also administering medication and fluids to

> offset the symptoms of vomiting, diarrhea, and dehydration. the vitamin C

> controls the virus in about 48 hours. The animal starts to show signs on

> recovery. the vomitng subsides. There is still some diarrhea but it is no

> longer bloody. during the next forty-eight hours we give the animal a

> multimineral tablet and a protein concentrate along with the vitamin C. this

> helps to strengthen the dog who up to now has not touched any food.Around

> the fourth day we find the appetite returning and the animal becomes

> livelier. In five days we have been able to send our cases home. Both in

> prevention and treatment, vitamin C can play a big role in this most current

> and worrisome of the canine viruses. " .

>

> Dr. Belfield is a graduate of Tuskegee Institute of Veterinary Medicine.

>

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There is also studies proving Vit C is effective for prevention of hip

dysplasia.

http://www.dog-nutrition-advice.com/facts-on-vitamin-c.html

>

> From Dr. Belfield's book, How to Have a Healthy Dog

>

>

> " When parvo reached the San area, I began getting calls from worried

> dog owners whohad heard the worst. " Do you have the vaccine? " people wanted

> to know. No, none available,we' d tell them If the caller was one of our

> clients we would ask if their animal was getting vitamin C every day.

> Usually they said yes. If not, we strongly urged them to start. " Keep the

> dog on vitamin C and this will keep the immune system strong and hopefully

> prevent parvovirus " we would tell them. I have not heard of a single case of

> parvovirus among dogs receiving vitamin C alone or Vitamin C along with a

> general vitamin-mineral program. These are dogs who, for the most part did

> not receive any vaccine.

>

> In treatment I found vitamin C in even heavier doses than I use for viral

> conditions to be effective in the dozen or so cases I saw during the latter

> half of l980. This is significant. ... normally for virus conditions would

> use a half-gram of sodium ascorbate intravenously per pound of body weight.

> And this is what I used on Kazan, a year old spitz who was the first

> parvovirus case brought in. After a few days I didn't seem to be making

> satisfactory headway so I decided to step up the dosage to two grams per

> pound. And this worked very well. It worked so well that I continued this

> dosage with all the other cases also administering medication and fluids to

> offset the symptoms of vomiting, diarrhea, and dehydration. the vitamin C

> controls the virus in about 48 hours. The animal starts to show signs on

> recovery. the vomitng subsides. There is still some diarrhea but it is no

> longer bloody. during the next forty-eight hours we give the animal a

> multimineral tablet and a protein concentrate along with the vitamin C. this

> helps to strengthen the dog who up to now has not touched any food.Around

> the fourth day we find the appetite returning and the animal becomes

> livelier. In five days we have been able to send our cases home. Both in

> prevention and treatment, vitamin C can play a big role in this most current

> and worrisome of the canine viruses. " .

>

> Dr. Belfield is a graduate of Tuskegee Institute of Veterinary Medicine.

>

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