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It is confusing and I am not a pro but this is my take. Aspergers is when a child or adult

show many of the signs and symptoms of autism but not enough for a full diagnosis.

I think also they dont have such a language delay or poor eye contact but thats just what

I have read. I think PDD is when a psychologist isnt sure as the child may test to have quite a few

of symptoms etc of autism but doesnt exactly fit the exact criteria. Say a child seems autistic but

yet he is very social. So in that category of testing he doesnt fit at all. But in the others he does.

Many times as they get older a better more thorough diagnosis is done. Just trying to help but really unsure as well..

38 and Mom to threeTasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy )Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pieElijah 2.. ASD and beautiful

can someone clear something up for me?

I really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this.

Thanks,

Stacie B

Aurora IL

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The main difference between Asperger Syndrome and autism is the speech component. If there was no lack of speech or loss and the person is verbal than the diagnosis is AS. People think my 13 yr old has AS, but he had five words until 3 1/2 years of age.

PDD is the diagnosis given when they do not have enough of the symptoms to receive an autism diagnosis. I think it is PDD-NOS. Sometimes a year or so later they get re-evaluated and the diagnosis of autism is given.

This is just a quick

Subject: can someone clear something up for me?To: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:10 PM

I really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this.

Thanks,

Stacie B

Aurora IL

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i am not by far an expert in any of this, but working in schools i have worked with both and kids who have both.

autism is a a spectrum disorder.. meaning it can be very mild to severe. it effects social skills, speech, mental things. ie: the young boy i work with i know he undertsnads me when i speak, and i know when he gets frustrated when he cannot find the words or sign to answer me.

the aspergers children i have worked with usually have shown to be more on the aggressive side.

pdd is where it is a serve lack of connectors making a connecting.

have you spoken to your doctor about all this? and the specfic disorder they gave you?

personally i see them as all the same, just as regular education students every child has the abilility to learn, but in different ways. i think we need to get past the "labeling" of children and just figure out what path of education is best for each child to thrive in the real world.

please no hate mail, i did not say anyting with malice and i know i am but a teachers aide. I just get very deeply involved with each child i have worked with. trying my hardest to find out how they learn and doing what i have to do to make that work for me and the child.

debra

can someone clear something up for me?To: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:10 PM

I really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this.

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Aurora IL

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OK! My son is verbal but sometimes he is hard to understand! I usually can but it seems within the last couple months I can't understand him as good sometimes! He also had very limited speech till he was over 3. He started usung more words after he started his special needs preschool! He did not walk till he was 2 1/2 and he did not pull up till he was 2! He never really crawled! Just the army crawl! He did not sit till about 18 mths! His neuro dx him with PDD but wants us to go to an Autism clinic to get him tested. We are going to take him to Little Friends in Naperville! I got a pacet with info in there and it gave facts and myths about Autism. Two of the myths were that if your child has eye contact then they do not have Autism and if your child is verbal then they do not have Autism! It is all very confusing to me but I am learning as I go! It is to bad Little Friends does not take insurance so we will have to pay out of poicket for it! It cost 2,650.00 and is broken down in 3 payments! We will go 5 or 6 times. The price just went up 150.00 from when I talked to them in May!Stacie BAurora ILSent via BlackBerry by AT&TDate: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:23:30 -0700 (PDT)To: <AutismBehaviorProblems >Subject: Re: can someone clear something up for me? The main difference between Asperger Syndrome and autism is the speech component. If there was no lack of speech or loss and the person is verbal than the diagnosis is AS. People think my 13 yr old has AS, but he had five words until 3 1/2 years of age. PDD is the diagnosis given when they do not have enough of the symptoms to receive an autism diagnosis. I think it is PDD-NOS. Sometimes a year or so later they get re-evaluated and the diagnosis of autism is given. This is just a quick From: hawkie6aol <hawkie6aol>Subject: can someone clear something up for me?To: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:10 PMI really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this. Thanks,Stacie BAurora IL Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today.

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Welcome to my world! I've been hearing different comments about

CJ's 'true' diagnosis because he is clearly Autistic, but also

extremely high-functioning. And while he does have some

characteristics of Asperger's, he isn't in line with what is considered

Asperger's. That's where the term 'PDD' comes in. Pervasive

Devolpment Disorder -- sometimes followed by 'NOS' Not Otherwise

Specified. It's a way of saying that they don't have a specific

category for him, so he gets lumped with all the others that cannot be

categorized.

I really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the

difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are

considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really

having a hard time with understanding all of this.

Thanks,

Stacie B

Aurora IL

[Guest guest]

That is outrageously priced. You can have him tested by a child psychologist

for much less. It cost us $425.00 and the psychologist works through a special

Autism Network Group in Boston called Ladders. They work with Boston General Hospital

and help fund research also. I would search for an alternative. We would not be able to afford

the price you are being asked to pay. Will your son get any services from them?

38 and Mom to threeTasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy )Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pieElijah 2.. ASD and beautiful

can someone clear something up for me?To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:10 PM

I really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this.

Thanks,

Stacie B

Aurora IL

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why do you have to pay for the testing? doesn't your school system do it for you?

debra

can someone clear something up for me?To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:10 PM

I really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this.

Thanks,

Stacie B

Aurora IL

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I believe Aspergers are high functioning but have social impairments

and possibly some other issues such as sensory, PDD is mild autism -

ot/sensory issues, gut issues but speechwise they can talk and

function fairly well, these are the kids that people question whether

they're really autistic because the symptoms (at least to outsiders)

seem mild. Autism diagnosis has to meet the criteria below and since

the child only has to meet 6 of the items, autistic features can look

different in each child. My son is very social but has lots of other

problems (physical as well as mental)some have improved greatly with

biomed and therapy, others still there. I was at a DAN conference

where one of the speakers ( Shattock) said if your child is

social it was one of the signs of vaccine induced autism.

Here's the criteria:

What does it mean to have an ASD? The new Diagnostic and Statistical

Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th edition (DSM-IV) which defines all

known medical disorders for the purposes of diagnosis, describes six

characteristics of ASDs. To qualify for a diagnosis, a person must

have a total of six or more items from (1), (2), and (3), with at

least two from (1) and one each from (2) and (3):

1. Qualitative impairment in social interaction, manifest by at least

two of the following:

A. Marked impairment in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors, such

as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body postures and gestures, to

regulate social interaction

B. Failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental

level

C. Lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or

achievements with other people (e.g., by lack of showing, bringing,

or pointing out objects of interest)

D. Lack of social or emotional reciprocity

Qualitative impairment in communication, as manifest by at least one

of the following:

A. Delay in, or total lack of, the development of spoken language

(not accompanied by an attempt to compensate through alternative

modes of communication such as gesture or mime)

B. In individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the

ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others

C. Stereotyped and repetitive use of language, or idiosyncratic

language

D. Lack of varied, spontaneous make-believe, or social imitative play

appropriate to developmental level

3. Restrictive repetitive and stereotypic patterns of behavior,

interests, and activities, as manifested by at least one of the

following:

A. Encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and

restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity

or focus

B. Apparently inflexible adherence to specific nonfunctional routines

or rituals

C. Stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g., hand or finger

flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)

D. Persistent preoccupation with parts of objects.

Delays or abnormal functioning in at least one of the following

areas, with onset prior to age 3 years:

1. Social interaction

2. Language as used in social communication

3. Symbolic or imaginative play

The disturbance is not better accounted for by Retts Disorder or

childhood disintegrative disorder.

[Guest guest]

Ya that is how I figured it was! From what I have been told Aspergers is high functioning and PDD is in the middle like moderate!Stacie BAurora ILSent via BlackBerry by AT&TDate: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:13:37 -0700 (PDT)To: <AutismBehaviorProblems >Subject: Re: can someone clear something up for me? It is confusing and I am not a pro but this is my take. Aspergers is when a child or adultshow many of the signs and symptoms of autism but not enough for a full diagnosis.I think also they dont have such a language delay or poor eye contact but thats just whatI have read. I think PDD is when a psychologist isnt sure as the child may test to have quite a fewof symptoms etc of autism but doesnt exactly fit the exact criteria. Say a child seems autistic butyet he is very social. So in that category of testing he doesnt fit at all. But in the others he does.Many times as they get older a better more thorough diagnosis is done. Just trying to help but really unsure as well.. 38 and Mom to threeTasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy )Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pieElijah 2.. ASD and beautiful can someone clear something up for me?I really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this. Thanks,Stacie BAurora IL Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today.

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At this point they don't! Well wait! They did and found him to be borderline but I don't buy it! They do not do as thourough of a job for school testing and I have heard that a lot! My son is no way borderline Autistic at all! There is no way!Stacie BAurora ILSent via BlackBerry by AT&TDate: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:33:32 -0400To: <AutismBehaviorProblems >Subject: Re: can someone clear something up for me? why do you have to pay for the testing? doesn't your school system do it for you? debra can someone clear something up for me?To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:10 PM I really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this. Thanks, Stacie B Aurora IL Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1568 - Release Date: 7/23/2008 6:55 AM

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You say he isn't autistic or he is more autistic than they say?

Aspergers is often diagnosed when the child speaks but has fixations...more than normal.

The biggest problem is the socialness.

The school can not give a diagnoses.

They can say he fits here but for insurance purposes and

therapies,etc, it must be done by a professional in the medical field.

It is better for a team to diagnose. You get the entire picture from a developemental ped, a psych, a neuro, OT, speech therapist, PT, etc.

Elaine

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At this point they don't! Well wait! They did and found him to be borderline but I don't buy it! They do not do as thourough of a job for school testing and I have heard that a lot! My son is no way borderline Autistic at all! There is no way!Stacie BAurora IL

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where do you live if i may ask?

ohh sorry i see illinois?

can i ask why they say he is borderline?

and it is not a bad thing to be ya know.. i know it can be hard to accept. but dang it there are sooo many resources for children i wish you were here on the east coast

if your school wants to classify him, it could be better for him in the long run as then he is able to accept many services the school offers. personally i think some school physo are not doing as good as they could. but i also work with one tlc who ( i hope that is what they call her) who is freaking awesome.. but i can tell you

it is the old addage the squeaky wheel gets greased. the boy i work with his mother is VERY involved in his school stuff and some people think it is a pain and other think it is totally wonderful.. so go up their butts stay on them

good luck i wish i could be more help

debra

can someone clear something up for me?To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:10 PM

I really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this.

Thanks,

Stacie B

Aurora IL

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Nope! No services unless you pay for it! This is not just a psych doing all this though! It is an Autism clinic and they have a team of people! Also this place is like a little community and even has a church nd school and residential living! I don't know! We could go to another place closer to us that I just found out about but they only do it one day and 3 drs! This is very extensive at the place we are going to! I am not sure if it is worth it or not but Jim thinks we should do it!Stacie BAurora ILSent via BlackBerry by AT&TDate: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:51:19 -0700 (PDT)To: <AutismBehaviorProblems >Subject: Re: can someone clear something up for me? That is outrageously priced. You can have him tested by a child psychologistfor much less. It cost us $425.00 and the psychologist works through a specialAutism Network Group in Boston called Ladders. They work with Boston General Hospitaland help fund research also. I would search for an alternative. We would not be able to affordthe price you are being asked to pay. Will your son get any services from them? 38 and Mom to threeTasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy )Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pieElijah 2.. ASD and beautiful can someone clear something up for me?To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:10 PMI really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this. Thanks,Stacie BAurora IL Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today.

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Hi Debra,

I thank God for 1:1 aides like you. My son has had the spectrum of

aides from 2 that have been wonderful for him, 1 of which he has had

for 2 years, to the aides that had no clue, and could not be bothered

to show up for work. My son is 9 (10 in Sept.) the 2 years he spent

in kindergarden were a waste of time for him, bad teacher and bad

aides, switched schools and the last 3 years have been better.

Thank you for what you do for our kids, and how much you care.

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> Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:10 PM

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is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are

considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am

really having a hard time with understanding all of this.

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> Thanks,

> Stacie B

> Aurora IL

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Asperger's children have a vocabulary, hence they are more verbal, but can be and often are socially awkward...They also can display some Autistic symptoms as stimming, impulse control, etc, but usually they are proficient with one subject...like trains, planes, space, etc...very bright...not necessarily savant, but bright....Asperger's is high functioning autism basically, so much so that often times Asperger's is diagnosed later...as it is sometimes easier to overlook...The consensus is that Asperger's is included as a spectrum disorder...

PDD - NOS --- Pervasive development disorder --- not otherwise specified means that the child is "a-typical" autism...he/she does NOT have enough of the "isms" to be labeled autistic... is right, as often times it is the beginning "label" and in the end they either have Asperger's and or Autism....Some with early intervention though never go beyond the PDD-NOS.

Hope this helps.

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can someone clear something up for me?

I really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this.

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Aurora IL

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Hi, there Stacie...I know it's so dang expersive...Yes those are myths, as I remember, early on, saying to little man's OT, "Look at how wonderful his eye contact is." She quickly burst my little happy bubble, and said, "Oh, e, that doesn't mean much...it's good, but it does not mean he doesn't have autism." ;( Anyhow blessings to you as you seek...keep us updated please...

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Ya, you are right to an extent about the label thing, but then again, if you know your child has something and everyone keeps saying no, and you just know it and you spend the most time with this child and see what goes on and all and sstill you get no answers or help from the school that is frusterating. At s IEP in April, I was told that if anything, he would be borderline with Autism and that is a definite maybe they said. We had his appt with the neuro on the very next day and she said, well, I have seen enough now and have talked to you both enough now to feel comfortable to dx him with PDD and also SI. He was diagnosed with a seizure disorder in OCT when testing started for other things. That was found with an EEG because I have noticed some strange things and then his teacher noticed staring spells. Anyhow, I have talked to the Dr and all, but I still get confused because then I hear it from someone else and they say it differently and I dont know what is what ya know? I am doing all the research I can and I am learning as I go, but do know alot about Autism as opposed to the other things and to me, that is what my son has. He is in day camp and goes all day mon thru thurs and they have seen behaviors that at school he never would show, meaning the aggression etc.

Stacie B

Aurora IL

i am not by far an expert in any of this, but working in schools i have worked with both and kids who have both.

autism is a a spectrum disorder.. meaning it can be very mild to severe. it effects social skills, speech, mental things. ie: the young boy i work with i know he undertsnads me when i speak, and i know when he gets frustrated when he cannot find the words or sign to answer me.

the aspergers children i have worked with usually have shown to be more on the aggressive side.

pdd is where it is a serve lack of connectors making a connecting.

have you spoken to your doctor about all this? and the specfic disorder they gave you?

personally i see them as all the same, just as regular education students every child has the abilility to learn, but in different ways. i think we need to get past the "labeling" of children and just figure out what path of education is best for each child to thrive in the real world.

please no hate mail, i did not say anyting with malice and i know i am but a teachers aide. I just get very deeply involved with each child i have worked with. trying my hardest to find out how they learn and doing what i have to do to make that work for me and the child.

debra

can someone clear something up for me?To: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:10 PM

I really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this.

Thanks,

Stacie B

Aurora IL

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Yep, I know what you mean. Very frusterating for sure. I know. You and I are both living the same thing it sounds like.

Stacie B

Aurora IL

Welcome to my world! I've been hearing different comments about CJ's 'true' diagnosis because he is clearly Autistic, but also extremely high-functioning. And while he does have some characteristics of Asperger's, he isn't in line with what is considered Asperger's. That's where the term 'PDD' comes in. Pervasive Devolpment Disorder -- sometimes followed by 'NOS' Not Otherwise Specified. It's a way of saying that they don't have a specific category for him, so he gets lumped with all the others that cannot be categorized. I really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this.Thanks,Stacie BAurora IL Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today.

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He is more Autistic then they say is what I meant. We are going to take him to an Autism clinic to get this all done. He has been diagnosed by his neuro with PDD and SI but I still think it is more because I see more and more all the time.

Stacie B

Aurora IL

 You say he isn't autistic or he is more autistic than they say?

Aspergers is often diagnosed when the child speaks but has fixations...more than normal.

The biggest problem is the socialness.

The school can not give a diagnoses.

They can say he fits here but for insurance purposes and

therapies,etc, it must be done by a professional in the medical field.

It is better for a team to diagnose. You get the entire picture from a developemental ped, a psych, a neuro, OT, speech therapist, PT, etc.

Elaine

Re: can someone clear something up for me?

At this point they don't! Well wait! They did and found him to be borderline but I don't buy it! They do not do as thourough of a job for school testing and I have heard that a lot! My son is no way borderline Autistic at all! There is no way!Stacie BAurora IL Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

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Debra,

They did all the Autism tesing since this is what I have thought all along and what I see at home is not what they see at school the 2 1/2 hours he was there last school year for preschool so what I seen, they did not really see. I filled out my paperwork and they filled out theirs the teacher did hers and everything she said basically clashed with how I answered on so many things.

Stacie b

Aurora

 where do you live if i may ask?

ohh sorry i see illinois?

can i ask why they say he is borderline?

and it is not a bad thing to be ya know.. i know it can be hard to accept. but dang it there are sooo many resources for children i wish you were here on the east coast

if your school wants to classify him, it could be better for him in the long run as then he is able to accept many services the school offers. personally i think some school physo are not doing as good as they could. but i also work with one tlc who ( i hope that is what they call her) who is freaking awesome.. but i can tell you

it is the old addage the squeaky wheel gets greased. the boy i work with his mother is VERY involved in his school stuff and some people think it is a pain and other think it is totally wonderful.. so go up their butts stay on them

good luck i wish i could be more help

debra

can someone clear something up for me?To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 9:10 PM

I really am having a hard time grasping something. What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism? And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean? I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this.

Thanks,

Stacie B

Aurora IL

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There are a number of tests and the individual must show a scores in a certain

range to

qualify for a certain diagnosis. According to our neurologist, the difference

between

Aspergers and High Functioning Autism , is non-delayed language AND narrow

range of

interests. In order to be labeled an Aspie, there must be some degree of " list

mania " ,

extreme interest in baseball scores or airplanes or trains or something. (Many

Aspies also

have OCD) Our 9 yr old Aspie friend's thing is heavy metal music. He can hear a

guitar

intro and tell you the song and the band and album and who played on it. I knew

the kid

with glasses in our social therapy group was an Aspie because he introduced

himself and

then told me everything I might ever want to know about the mammals of South

America.

>

> It is confusing and I am not a pro but this is my take. Aspergers is when a

child or adult

> show many of the signs and symptoms of autism but not enough for a full

diagnosis.

> I think also they dont have such a language delay or poor eye contact but

thats just what

> I have read. I think PDD is when a psychologist isnt sure as the child may

test to have

quite a few

> of symptoms etc of autism but doesnt exactly fit the exact criteria. Say a

child seems

autistic but

> yet he is very social. So in that category of testing he doesnt fit at all.

But in the others

he does.

> Many times as they get older a better more thorough diagnosis is done. Just

trying to

help but really unsure as well..

>

>  38 and Mom to three

> Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy )

> Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie

> Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful

>

>

>

> can someone clear something up for me?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Football today.

> I really am having a hard time grasping something.  What is the difference

between

Aspergers, PDD and Autism?  And, if you are considered high functioning, what

exactly

does that mean?  I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this.

>  

> Thanks,

> Stacie B

> Aurora IL

>

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Well, if it helps, my dd is labeled PDD-NOS. The thing that keeps her from being diagnosed with just autism is the fact that she is more social. Although sometimes that is a stuggle for her she still didn't meet the criteria for just austism.I do think that if we had her evaluated now for a diagnoses she might be labeled autistic. We did not have any trouble with getting services with the label PDD because she is also labeled with epilepsy and MR. She is developementally delayed too. She is 15 and does preschool work in school. She is just begining to speak sentences...some. But she does have scattered skills up to 15.

Elaine

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At this point they don't! Well wait! They did and found him to be borderline but I don't buy it! They do not do as thourough of a job for school testing and I have heard that a lot! My son is no way borderline Autistic at all! There is no way!Stacie BAurora IL Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

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Well, if it helps, my dd is labeled PDD-NOS. The thing that keeps her from being diagnosed with just autism is the fact that she is more social. Although sometimes that is a stuggle for her she still didn't meet the criteria for just austism.I do think that if we had her evaluated now for a diagnoses she might be labeled autistic. We did not have any trouble with getting services with the label PDD because she is also labeled with epilepsy and MR. She is developementally delayed too. She is 15 and does preschool work in school. She is just begining to speak sentences...some. But she does have scattered skills up to 15.

Elaine

Re: can someone clear something up for me?

At this point they don't! Well wait! They did and found him to be borderline but I don't buy it! They do not do as thourough of a job for school testing and I have heard that a lot! My son is no way borderline Autistic at all! There is no way!Stacie BAurora IL Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

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Ya that is how my middle daughter is! Now my son who is 5 does obsess over things and does not have much interest in a lot of things but doors, windows, locks, garage doors etc and he has gotten out the door before and that could of been disasterous if we did not know within 2 seconds! Also he has tried on more then 1 occassion to climb out a window and has been halfway out! We put window locks on and he figured out how to work them and any other lock or childproof thing within 30 seconds! We have called him baby houdini for quite a while now!Stacie BAurora ILSent via BlackBerry by AT&TDate: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:14:01 -0000To: <AutismBehaviorProblems >Subject: Re: can someone clear something up for me? There are a number of tests and the individual must show a scores in a certain range to qualify for a certain diagnosis. According to our neurologist, the difference between Aspergers and High Functioning Autism , is non-delayed language AND narrow range of interests. In order to be labeled an Aspie, there must be some degree of " list mania " , extreme interest in baseball scores or airplanes or trains or something. (Many Aspies also have OCD) Our 9 yr old Aspie friend's thing is heavy metal music. He can hear a guitar intro and tell you the song and the band and album and who played on it. I knew the kid with glasses in our social therapy group was an Aspie because he introduced himself and then told me everything I might ever want to know about the mammals of South America. > > It is confusing and I am not a pro but this is my take. Aspergers is when a child or adult > show many of the signs and symptoms of autism but not enough for a full diagnosis. > I think also they dont have such a language delay or poor eye contact but thats just what > I have read. I think PDD is when a psychologist isnt sure as the child may test to have quite a few > of symptoms etc of autism but doesnt exactly fit the exact criteria. Say a child seems autistic but > yet he is very social. So in that category of testing he doesnt fit at all. But in the others he does. > Many times as they get older a better more thorough diagnosis is done. Just trying to help but really unsure as well.. > >  38 and Mom to three > Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy ) > Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie > Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful > > > > can someone clear something up for me? > > > > > > > >________________________________ > Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > I really am having a hard time grasping something.  What is the difference between Aspergers, PDD and Autism?  And, if you are considered high functioning, what exactly does that mean?  I am really having a hard time with understanding all of this. >   > Thanks, > Stacie B > Aurora IL >

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e! Yep you are right and you know even his special ed preschool which was in a special needs school would say to me he has eye contact and he is affectionate when he wants to be so we doubt Autism! Well you would think coming from a school that is special needs from preschool thru high school would know this stuff! It amazes me! Now what would you do about the Autism Clinic I have been talking about that is only a town over from mine but are considered the best in IL? How would you feel about paying the money for this conplete Autim clinic where we do go 5 to 6 times and it sounds like they are all about 3 hours each! I am glad you joined this group! I love reading your posts!Stacie BAurora ILSent via BlackBerry by AT&TDate: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:05:05 -0700 (PDT)To: <AutismBehaviorProblems >Subject: Re: can someone clear something up for me? Hi, there Stacie...I know it's so dang expersive...Yes those are myths, as I remember, early on, saying to little man's OT, "Look at how wonderful his eye contact is." She quickly burst my little happy bubble, and said, "Oh, e, that doesn't mean much...it's good, but it does not mean he doesn't have autism." ;( Anyhow blessings to you as you seek...keep us updated please... e Re: can someone clear something up for me?Recent Activity 16New MembersVisit Your Group Meditation andLovingkindnessA Yahoo! Groupto share and learn.Yahoo! HealthEarly DetectionKnow the symptomsof breast cancer.Sell OnlineStart selling withour award-winninge-commerce tools..