Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Whenever someone starts taking products that will create a de-tox affect... colon cleansing is a must... drinking lots of water is good and do continue, but to that, add colonics or a colon cleansing program to make sure you are eliminating the toxins from your body. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Hi Bonnie. Can you recommend a brand of cleanser? Thanks, Annie -----Original Message-----From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of BonnieSent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:47 AMiodine Subject: Re: Side effects Whenever someone starts taking products that will create a de-tox affect... colon cleansing is a must... drinking lots of water is good and do continue, but to that, add colonics or a colon cleansing program to make sure you are eliminating the toxins from your body. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Hi Annie, Dr Natura is a good one... but I've used several different products... Dual-Action Cleanse... 7 day miracle cleanse... (I liked the parasite cleanse with the 7DM). www.drnatura.com www.dualactioncleanse.com www.7dm.com and might I add ... I didn't do all the enema's or the diet protocol, but did eat lighter and it still worked fine to keep me regular and clean out some gunk. Drink plenty of water and try to drink about 4 oz. an hour ... most people guzzle down a bunch then don't drink again for a few hours. It is best to drink only 4 oz an hour systematically for 10 - 12 hrs because the liver cannot process more than that and you will just urinate it out. Some people won't drink water because it "runs right through" that is why...they are drinking too much at one time. I measured 4oz in a measuring cup... drank it to see how gulps that is for me..3 mouth full swallows for me... so now I stop at that much and keep "pure" water with me at all times to drink throughout the day. Of the three colon cleansers I mentioned above I would recommend Dr. Natura. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I was told by one of my teachers, a naturopathic doctor and a genius to boot, that kelps are not good sources of iodine if you are deficient because they have too much bromine which competes with the iodine for receptor sites. She also makes the EnerG-Iodine product. From my understanding the iodine will detox out the bromine but needs to be in higher concentrations to do so? Cheryl Side effects> > > I started taking Dulce liquid iodine a few weeks> ago. At first, my> face broke out pretty bad, but that eventually> cleared up. The> alarming symptoms I got was unbelievable fatigue,> and the worst> depression I've ever had in my life. Both these> symptoms went on and> on and on, till I finally just quit taking the> iodine a couple of> days ago.> > I understand I was detoxing bromine and flouride. > I just didn't> think those symptoms would last so long!> > I think what the problem was was the fact that I'm> not clearing the> toxins out of my body properly. In other words,> not sweating enough> and not going to the bathroom enough. Which means> that the toxins> are being reabsorbed into my central nervous> system, causing the> depression and fatigue.> > What could I have done differently? I was> drinking TONS of water.> > Has anyone else had similar symptoms? I also had> a rapid heartbeat,> and could NOT sleep at all. That got old real> quick. lol> > I did lose a little weight though, that was good.> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I can highly recommend OxyPowder. It helped where NOTHING else did: www.oxypowder.com On 3/5/08 11:43 AM, " Bonnie " <cybermail@...> wrote: Hi Annie, Dr Natura is a good one... but I've used several different products... Dual-Action Cleanse... 7 day miracle cleanse... (I liked the parasite cleanse with the 7DM). www.drnatura.com <http://www.drnatura.com> www.dualactioncleanse.com <http://www.dualactioncleanse.com> www.7dm.com <http://www.7dm.com> and might I add ... I didn't do all the enema's or the diet protocol, but did eat lighter and it still worked fine to keep me regular and clean out some gunk. Drink plenty of water and try to drink about 4 oz. an hour ... most people guzzle down a bunch then don't drink again for a few hours. It is best to drink only 4 oz an hour systematically for 10 - 12 hrs because the liver cannot process more than that and you will just urinate it out. Some people won't drink water because it " runs right through " that is why...they are drinking too much at one time. I measured 4oz in a measuring cup... drank it to see how gulps that is for me..3 mouth full swallows for me... so now I stop at that much and keep " pure " water with me at all times to drink throughout the day. Of the three colon cleansers I mentioned above I would recommend Dr. Natura. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I would like to underline what some have already said about the importance of cleansing. Cleansing the liver/gallbladder along with the whole digestive tract is imperative IF you want foods and supplementation to be absorbed, transported and utilized effectively. The digestive tract is the first point of attack for nearly all disease-causing agents and thereby the first line of defense against environmental toxins. Every day the body absorbs toxins from pesticides, meat and dairy laden with hormones and antibiotics, soy (most soy in the US is genetically modified), chemicals in pre-packaged foods, chemicals in personal care products, white flour, table salt, MSG (Monosodium Glutamate), microwaved foods, artificial sweeteners, toxic air, toxic water, electromagnetic radiation, heavy metal (amalgams), harmful organisms, industrial chemicals, prescription drugs including vaccinations, stress and much more. 70 - 80% of the immune system is located in the digestive tract. That tells it all right there. Parasite cleansing and heavy metal detoxification should also be performed. Implementing a natural protocol with an already toxic body that has not been cleansed will usually produce less-than-anticipated results and will most likely present a Herxheimer reaction that will make most people want to quit. Also, if you do a detoxification program but continue to eat the SAD then you are working against yourself. It’s like giving your kitchen floor a thorough cleaning and then every time you “spot mop” you use dirty water. There are a lot of ways to cleanse the digestive tract. In my opinion, oxygen based cleansing is not only extremely effective but also very healing to the digestive tract. It is safe and non-habit forming and cleanses the complete digestive tract (not just the colon) from the small intestine down. However, in order to be completely effective it should be done at least 3-4 times with a 7-10 day rest in between cleanses. One cleanse is probably not going to be effective against years of toxic build-up. None of my clients are put on a full natural protocol until they have cleansed the body. Over time, I have seen that effective results are experienced when cleansing has been done first. The protocol that I use and recommend can be found at: http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/learning/liver-and-gallbladder-flush.html While colonics can be effective they are expensive, take time and only cleanse the colon. Food is actually digested in the small intestine and colonics cannot cleanse this area. Oxygen cleansing is just as effective and, in fact, many colon hydrotherapists are recommending oxygen-based products in their practices. Someone had commented about using Epsom salt while on Dr. Hulda ’s cleanse. The reason that Epsom salt is used is because the magnesium in the Epsom Salt relaxes the sphincter of the gallbladder and bile ducts, allowing for the easy passage of the softened, shrunken stones. This is important. Also, you can mix the Epsom salt in organic, freshly squeezed grapefruit juice thus making it much easier to get down. I have also noticed that detoxification, cleansing and changing to a very healthy diet “before” implementing an iodine protocol seems to lesson detoxification symptoms. Not for everyone, but most. Be Well~ Loretta Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH www.oawhealth.com Sign-up for our FREE Advanced Health & Wellness Newsletter My Blog: Oasis of Health & Wellness Blog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I second this. It is a constant process. You must commit to cleaning up your act (so to speak) if you really want to get well. Don't try to rationalize that a small thing will not make a difference. It does. There are so many toxic things that will sabotage our health. I now eat totally organic (as does my family), see out local farms and farmers markets when in season and do all I can to use more fruits and veggies and limit gluten products. Feed and nourish your body with good nutrients and it will be kind to you. I have more energy than I have had in years. I feel so good. I just did my 2nd major detox and am off grains and sugar now. It has been a huge lesson to me. I felt good the last time I did this and then let them creep back in until the cravings were out of control. I no longer have them. I attribute many of the huge reactions to the upper doses of Iodine to toxic overload. If your liver and kidneys and lymph system cannot flush it out it will go back into the blood and re-circulate and cause issues. I also remove amalgams and did chelation. I believe all this has saved my life. My cancer markers are no longer increasing but slowly declining. www.naturalthyroidchoices.com RE: Side effects I would like to underline what some have already said about the importance of cleansing. Cleansing the liver/gallbladder along with the whole digestive tract is imperative IF you want foods and supplementation to be absorbed, transported and utilized effectively. The digestive tract is the first point of attack for nearly all disease-causing agents and thereby the first line of defense against environmental toxins. Every day the body absorbs toxins from pesticides, meat and dairy laden with hormones and antibiotics, soy (most soy in the US is genetically modified), chemicals in pre-packaged foods, chemicals in personal care products, white flour, table salt, MSG (Monosodium Glutamate), microwaved foods, artificial sweeteners, toxic air, toxic water, electromagnetic radiation, heavy metal (amalgams), harmful organisms, industrial chemicals, prescription drugs including vaccinations, stress and much more. 70 - 80% of the immune system is located in the digestive tract. That tells it all right there. Parasite cleansing and heavy metal detoxification should also be performed. Implementing a natural protocol with an already toxic body that has not been cleansed will usually produce less-than-anticipated results and will most likely present a Herxheimer reaction that will make most people want to quit. Also, if you do a detoxification program but continue to eat the SAD then you are working against yourself. It’s like giving your kitchen floor a thorough cleaning and then every time you “spot mop” you use dirty water. There are a lot of ways to cleanse the digestive tract. In my opinion, oxygen based cleansing is not only extremely effective but also very healing to the digestive tract. It is safe and non-habit forming and cleanses the complete digestive tract (not just the colon) from the small intestine down. However, in order to be completely effective it should be done at least 3-4 times with a 7-10 day rest in between cleanses. One cleanse is probably not going to be effective against years of toxic build-up. None of my clients are put on a full natural protocol until they have cleansed the body. Over time, I have seen that effective results are experienced when cleansing has been done first. The protocol that I use and recommend can be found at: http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/learning/liver-and-gallbladder-flush.html While colonics can be effective they are expensive, take time and only cleanse the colon. Food is actually digested in the small intestine and colonics cannot cleanse this area. Oxygen cleansing is just as effective and, in fact, many colon hydrotherapists are recommending oxygen-based products in their practices. Someone had commented about using Epsom salt while on Dr. Hulda ’s cleanse. The reason that Epsom salt is used is because the magnesium in the Epsom Salt relaxes the sphincter of the gallbladder and bile ducts, allowing for the easy passage of the softened, shrunken stones. This is important. Also, you can mix the Epsom salt in organic, freshly squeezed grapefruit juice thus making it much easier to get down. I have also noticed that detoxification, cleansing and changing to a very healthy diet “before” implementing an iodine protocol seems to lesson detoxification symptoms. Not for everyone, but most. Be Well~Loretta Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CHwww.oawhealth.com Sign-up for our FREE Advanced Health & Wellness NewsletterMy Blog: Oasis of Health & Wellness Blog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I didn't realize that kelp contains iodine. I had been told at another health forum that kelp was not a good source of iodine, but one lady had tried it with good results, and so I bought some because it was pretty cheap-cheaper than Lugol's. Is that what most people here use? What is this EnerG-Iodine? Have not heard of that-only Lugol's and Idoral. --- VoicePrints <VoicePrints@...> wrote: > I was told by one of my teachers, a naturopathic > doctor and a genius to > boot, that kelps are not good sources of iodine if > you are deficient because > they have too much bromine which competes with the > iodine for receptor > sites. She also makes the EnerG-Iodine product. > From my understanding the > iodine will detox out the bromine but needs to be in > higher concentrations > to do so? > > Cheryl > Side effects > > > > > > I started taking Dulce liquid iodine a few > weeks > > ago. At first, my > > face broke out pretty bad, but that eventually > > cleared up. The > > alarming symptoms I got was unbelievable > fatigue, > > and the worst > > depression I've ever had in my life. Both > these > > symptoms went on and > > on and on, till I finally just quit taking the > > iodine a couple of > > days ago. > > > > I understand I was detoxing bromine and > flouride. > > I just didn't > > think those symptoms would last so long! > > > > I think what the problem was was the fact that > I'm > > not clearing the > > toxins out of my body properly. In other > words, > > not sweating enough > > and not going to the bathroom enough. Which > means > > that the toxins > > are being reabsorbed into my central nervous > > system, causing the > > depression and fatigue. > > > > What could I have done differently? I was > > drinking TONS of water. > > > > Has anyone else had similar symptoms? I also > had > > a rapid heartbeat, > > and could NOT sleep at all. That got old real > > quick. lol > > > > I did lose a little weight though, that was > good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I was wondering about the recommendation for Colonics as a colon cleansing protocol. Aren't they very addictive? I'm concerned about not being able to go to the bathroom without an enema after doing a series of Colonics! --- slythy@... wrote: > > I got rashes from every kelp product I tried --but > never got a rash from > iodine. > > I thought maybe it was a contaminant (arsenic, lead, > etc from the polluted > ocean) but maybe it could just be the bromide. > > L. > > In a message dated 3/5/2008 12:13:55 P.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > VoicePrints@... writes: > > I was told by one of my teachers, a naturopathic > doctor and a genius to > boot, that kelps are not good sources of iodine if > you are deficient because they > have too much bromine which competes with the iodine > for receptor sites. > Cheryl > > > > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and > advice on AOL Money & > Finance. > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I was taught that colonics are useful in an emergency but not as a method of cleansing the colon... too expensive and they do nothing to address and tonify the bowel walls from the pockets that inevitably come from poor diet and bowel habits. I use Dr. s lower bowel formula and it works great. It can be increased or decreased as needed. His teaching is to start with 2 caps 3 x's a day and increase by 1 capsule for each of those 3 doses till you are getting at least 3 movements a day. It took one lady increasing till she got to 40 capsules a day to blast her loose, she only moved her bowels once a month prior to that! for most the 2 cap. 3x's a day routine works fine but if not you keep increasing it. These are bowel foods that do not create dependence. Cheryl Re: Side effects I was wondering about the recommendation for Colonicsas a colon cleansing protocol. Aren't they veryaddictive? I'm concerned about not being able to goto the bathroom without an enema after doing a seriesof Colonics! --- slythy@... wrote:> > I got rashes from every kelp product I tried --but> never got a rash from > iodine. > > I thought maybe it was a contaminant (arsenic, lead,> etc from the polluted > ocean) but maybe it could just be the bromide.> > L.> > In a message dated 3/5/2008 12:13:55 P.M. Eastern> Standard Time, > VoicePrints@... writes:> > I was told by one of my teachers, a naturopathic> doctor and a genius to > boot, that kelps are not good sources of iodine if> you are deficient because they > have too much bromine which competes with the iodine> for receptor sites. > Cheryl > > > > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and> advice on AOL Money & > Finance. > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)> ____________________________________________________________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 What oxygen based product do you recommend for colon cleansing? Thanks, Irene At 09:26 AM 3/5/2008, you wrote: I would like to underline what some have already said about the importance of cleansing. Cleansing the liver/gallbladder along with the whole digestive tract is imperative IF you want foods and supplementation to be absorbed, transported and utilized effectively. The digestive tract is the first point of attack for nearly all disease-causing agents and thereby the first line of defense against environmental toxins. Every day the body absorbs toxins from pesticides, meat and dairy laden with hormones and antibiotics, soy (most soy in the US is genetically modified), chemicals in pre-packaged foods, chemicals in personal care products, white flour, table salt, MSG (Monosodium Glutamate), microwaved foods, artificial sweeteners, toxic air, toxic water, electromagnetic radiation, heavy metal (amalgams), harmful organisms, industrial chemicals, prescription drugs including vaccinations, stress and much more. 70 - 80% of the immune system is located in the digestive tract. That tells it all right there. Parasite cleansing and heavy metal detoxification should also be performed. Implementing a natural protocol with an already toxic body that has not been cleansed will usually produce less-than-anticipated results and will most likely present a Herxheimer reaction that will make most people want to quit. Also, if you do a detoxification program but continue to eat the SAD then you are working against yourself. It’s like giving your kitchen floor a thorough cleaning and then every time you “spot mop” you use dirty water. There are a lot of ways to cleanse the digestive tract. In my opinion, oxygen based cleansing is not only extremely effective but also very healing to the digestive tract. It is safe and non-habit forming and cleanses the complete digestive tract (not just the colon) from the small intestine down. However, in order to be completely effective it should be done at least 3-4 times with a 7-10 day rest in between cleanses. One cleanse is probably not going to be effective against years of toxic build-up. None of my clients are put on a full natural protocol until they have cleansed the body. Over time, I have seen that effective results are experienced when cleansing has been done first. The protocol that I use and recommend can be found at: http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/learning/liver-and-gallbladder-flush.html While colonics can be effective they are expensive, take time and only cleanse the colon. Food is actually digested in the small intestine and colonics cannot cleanse this area. Oxygen cleansing is just as effective and, in fact, many colon hydrotherapists are recommending oxygen-based products in their practices. Someone had commented about using Epsom salt while on Dr. Hulda ’s cleanse. The reason that Epsom salt is used is because the magnesium in the Epsom Salt relaxes the sphincter of the gallbladder and bile ducts, allowing for the easy passage of the softened, shrunken stones. This is important. Also, you can mix the Epsom salt in organic, freshly squeezed grapefruit juice thus making it much easier to get down. I have also noticed that detoxification, cleansing and changing to a very healthy diet “before” implementing an iodine protocol seems to lesson detoxification symptoms. Not for everyone, but most. Be Well~ Loretta Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH www.oawhealth.com Sign-up for our FREE Advanced Health & Wellness Newsletter My Blog: Oasis of Health & Wellness Blog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 This is so TRUE. I have never felt better than when cleansing, but have really struggled to get those good habits to stick (limited gluten, no challenge foods, no sugar etc.) I have more energy than I have had in years. I feel so good. I just did my 2nd major detox and am off grains and sugar now. It has been a huge lesson to me. I felt good the last time I did this and then let them creep back in until the cravings were out of control. > > > www.naturalthyroidchoices.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 " Annie Phenix " <annie@...> wrote: > > Hey do you know if the liver cleansing puts > any stress on your adrenals? > thanks! annie A liver cleanse does not put stress on the adrenals or otherwise on the system when done skillfully. My article " Spring Liver Cleanse " at url below is designed specifically to be gentle, with the TCM Deficient constitution in mind. Can be done concurrently with high iodine, low iodine, or none. Carol willis_protocols my artices in Files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Oh I hear you. It is not easy! Steph Re: Side effects > This is so TRUE. I have never felt better than when cleansing, but have > really struggled to get those good habits to stick (limited gluten, no > challenge foods, no sugar etc.) > > > > > I have more energy than I have had in years. I feel so good. I just > did my 2nd major detox and am off grains and sugar now. It has been a > huge lesson to me. I felt good the last time I did this and then let > them creep back in until the cravings were out of control. > >> >> www.naturalthyroidchoices.com >> >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Isn't OxyPowder pretty much nothing but Magnesium? I am very constipated, and last night I took 1000mg of just regular Magnesium I had in my cabinet, and was able to go this morning. --- Rosewall <erosewall@...> wrote: > I can highly recommend OxyPowder. It helped where > NOTHING else did: > www.oxypowder.com > > > > On 3/5/08 11:43 AM, " Bonnie " > <cybermail@...> wrote: > > > Hi Annie, > > > > Dr Natura is a good one... but I've used several > different products... > > Dual-Action Cleanse... 7 day miracle cleanse... (I > liked the parasite cleanse > > with the 7DM). > > > > www.drnatura.com <http://www.drnatura.com> > > www.dualactioncleanse.com > <http://www.dualactioncleanse.com> > > www.7dm.com <http://www.7dm.com> > > > > and might I add ... I didn't do all the enema's or > the diet protocol, but did > > eat lighter and it still worked fine to keep me > regular and clean out some > > gunk. Drink plenty of water and try to drink about > 4 oz. an hour ... most > > people guzzle down a bunch then don't drink again > for a few hours. It is best > > to drink only 4 oz an hour systematically for 10 - > 12 hrs because the liver > > cannot process more than that and you will just > urinate it out. Some people > > won't drink water because it " runs right through " > that is why...they are > > drinking too much at one time. I measured 4oz in > a measuring cup... drank it > > to see how gulps that is for me..3 mouth full > swallows for me... so now I stop > > at that much and keep " pure " water with me at all > times to drink throughout > > the day. > > > > Of the three colon cleansers I mentioned above I > would recommend Dr. Natura. > > > > Bonnie > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Leyna, All I can tell you is that high Magnesium did nothing for me (even with OJ), but OxyPowder helped to get things working regularly. However, I also had an unusual ganglion/pain issue which may have complicated things (on top of undiagnosed hypo). Not that magnesium doesn’t contribute, but, for example, I finally tried MoM, after thinking it was no different than Mg, but found 2 T at night keeps things moving. If anyone knows of any consequences/precautions of MoM, would be interested—but for now, it is the lesser ‘evil’. On 3/6/08 12:44 AM, " Leyna " <leyna1964@...> wrote: Isn't OxyPowder pretty much nothing but Magnesium? I am very constipated, and last night I took 1000mg of just regular Magnesium I had in my cabinet, and was able to go this morning. --- Rosewall <erosewall@... <mailto:erosewall%40tds.net> > wrote: > I can highly recommend OxyPowder. It helped where > NOTHING else did: > www.oxypowder.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Ok, well it must be the type of Magnesium used in the OxyPowder, as well as that other herb that is added to it-can't remember what it was now. I made an appointment to get a colonic next wee, if I can come up with the money. Unfortunantly, there is only ONE place in my city that does them! And on top of that, I tried to make appointments to get several close together, and they told me that they only do them ONCE a month-no more than that-they totally refused me when I said that I had heard that it takes several to see a difference. The nurse said " Well, you won't get ME to schedule you an appointment, or anyone else here! " Should I cancel it then? Is one even gonna do anything, or is it a waste of time? I will save up for the Oxypowder as well. --- Rosewall <erosewall@...> wrote: > Leyna, > > All I can tell you is that high Magnesium did > nothing for me (even with OJ), > but OxyPowder helped to get things working > regularly. However, I also had an > unusual ganglion/pain issue which may have > complicated things (on top of > undiagnosed hypo). Not that magnesium doesn¹t > contribute, but, for example, > I finally tried MoM, after thinking it was no > different than Mg, but found 2 > T at night keeps things moving. If anyone knows of > any > consequences/precautions of MoM, would be > interested‹but for now, it is the > lesser Œevil¹. > > On 3/6/08 12:44 AM, " Leyna " <leyna1964@...> > wrote: > > > Isn't OxyPowder pretty much nothing but Magnesium? > I > > am very constipated, and last night I took 1000mg > of > > just regular Magnesium I had in my cabinet, and > was > > able to go this morning. > > --- Rosewall <erosewall@... > <mailto:erosewall%40tds.net> > wrote: > > > >> > I can highly recommend OxyPowder. It helped > where > >> > NOTHING else did: > >> > www.oxypowder.com > >> > > >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 http://www.sawilsons.com/library.htm This site has special enema coffee plus good info. I switched over to it (from regular organic coffee) and I'm happy with it. Rusty From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of VoicePrintsSent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:28 PMiodine Subject: Re: Side effects I had a similar experience with that fuco thin product that was concentrated brown kelp. I wonder if it had so much bromine in it that it caused a problem? I started on the full dose right away of 3 caps a day and I was so freaking irritable I couldn't stand it. It took 3 days after stopping for the effect to wear off completely. I also had the same feeling on the Atomodyne which is supposed to be made according to Edgar Cayce's specifications but I heard the family is not following his instructions on it. If a supplement goes into mental symptoms like depression of extreme irritability I would absolutely stop and re evaluate. Cleansing without attention to the liver can cause an over flow of toxins into the blood and make you sick. I do voice bio analysis and have tested my voice print while fasting. It was fascinating to see the lymph area clog up and become stressed while my liver energy went down and was not functioning well. I read about coffee enemas and Dr. Gerson and followed his protocol. The achy sluggish feeling went away and my liver function came up as well as my lymph going down to normal. I felt great with lots of energy and no aches. I now recommend it when ever a cleanse is done. You can google it for more info but it dumps toxins straight into the bowel thru the portal vein rather than recirculate them several times till the liver can eliminate them. Cheryl Side effects I started taking Dulce liquid iodine a few weeks ago. At first, my face broke out pretty bad, but that eventually cleared up. The alarming symptoms I got was unbelievable fatigue, and the worst depression I've ever had in my life. Both these symptoms went on and on and on, till I finally just quit taking the iodine a couple of days ago.I understand I was detoxing bromine and flouride. I just didn't think those symptoms would last so long!I think what the problem was was the fact that I'm not clearing the toxins out of my body properly. In other words, not sweating enough and not going to the bathroom enough. Which means that the toxins are being reabsorbed into my central nervous system, causing the depression and fatigue.What could I have done differently? I was drinking TONS of water.Has anyone else had similar symptoms? I also had a rapid heartbeat, and could NOT sleep at all. That got old real quick. lolI did lose a little weight though, that was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 > > can drinking alcohol while on lex cause any worsening symptoms? > It will make the side effects worse, believe me i found out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 > > can drinking alcohol while on lex cause any worsening symptoms? > It will make the side effects worse, believe me i found out. _________ Please describe the side effects you had combining the two. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 They suggest you don't drink while on antidepressants because alcohol is a depressant. But it doesn't " interact " with alcohol the same way as tranquilizers would. side effects can drinking alcohol while on lex cause any worsening symptoms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 > > > > > can drinking alcohol while on lex cause any worsening symptoms? > > > It will make the side effects worse, believe me i found out. > _________ > Please describe the side effects you had combining the two. > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > The side effects i had when i drank on lexapro was bad anxiety and severe hand tremors, which was what the lexapro was helping me with.At some point you have to make a choice.I am currently two weeks into getting off the drug,my doctor gave me xanax but said take it only if you have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Worsen your depressive symptoms or the side effects of the drug itself? Some people can have a drink or two while taking an SSRI other's can't. I could drink while taking both Celexa and Effexor. And by drink I mean a drink here and there. I'm not really a drinker anymore. Other people have problems when drinking while taking an SSRI. It can cause worsening side effects and other problems. The thing to remember is that alcohol is a depressant. Barbara side effects can drinking alcohol while on lex cause any worsening symptoms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I just want to also recommend the OxyPowder. My friend gave me some and said it had worked really well for him. It did wonders for me as well, in fact I'm now absorbing my proteins better, and this is good because I have not been for a while. I feel better than I have in years. Ken > > > Hi Annie, > > > > Dr Natura is a good one... but I've used several different products... > > Dual-Action Cleanse... 7 day miracle cleanse... (I liked the parasite cleanse > > with the 7DM). > > > > www.drnatura.com <http://www.drnatura.com> > > www.dualactioncleanse.com <http://www.dualactioncleanse.com> > > www.7dm.com <http://www.7dm.com> > > > > and might I add ... I didn't do all the enema's or the diet protocol, but did > > eat lighter and it still worked fine to keep me regular and clean out some > > gunk. Drink plenty of water and try to drink about 4 oz. an hour .... most > > people guzzle down a bunch then don't drink again for a few hours. It is best > > to drink only 4 oz an hour systematically for 10 - 12 hrs because the liver > > cannot process more than that and you will just urinate it out. Some people > > won't drink water because it " runs right through " that is why...they are > > drinking too much at one time. I measured 4oz in a measuring cup... drank it > > to see how gulps that is for me..3 mouth full swallows for me... so now I stop > > at that much and keep " pure " water with me at all times to drink throughout > > the day. > > > > Of the three colon cleansers I mentioned above I would recommend Dr. Natura. > > > > Bonnie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Its Ozonated Magnesium Oxides and Organic Germanium 132 plus Citric Acid. I read that the Magnesium isn't bioavailable so it just gets excreted through the kidneys, and as such it was said may make it a possible kidney stone cure. I know someone who took it before starting Iodoral and it seemed to knock a kidney stone or two loose. I think the stuff is wonderful and if it serves as a kidney stone cure as well, that makes it all the better. > > > > > Hi Annie, > > > > > > Dr Natura is a good one... but I've used several > > different products... > > > Dual-Action Cleanse... 7 day miracle cleanse... (I > > liked the parasite cleanse > > > with the 7DM). > > > > > > www.drnatura.com <http://www.drnatura.com> > > > www.dualactioncleanse.com > > <http://www.dualactioncleanse.com> > > > www.7dm.com <http://www.7dm.com> > > > > > > and might I add ... I didn't do all the enema's or > > the diet protocol, but did > > > eat lighter and it still worked fine to keep me > > regular and clean out some > > > gunk. Drink plenty of water and try to drink about > > 4 oz. an hour ... most > > > people guzzle down a bunch then don't drink again > > for a few hours. It is best > > > to drink only 4 oz an hour systematically for 10 - > > 12 hrs because the liver > > > cannot process more than that and you will just > > urinate it out. Some people > > > won't drink water because it " runs right through " > > that is why...they are > > > drinking too much at one time. I measured 4oz in > > a measuring cup... drank it > > > to see how gulps that is for me..3 mouth full > > swallows for me... so now I stop > > > at that much and keep " pure " water with me at all > > times to drink throughout > > > the day. > > > > > > Of the three colon cleansers I mentioned above I > > would recommend Dr. Natura. > > > > > > Bonnie > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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