DMSO

December 9, 2002

Most important that you use it on intact, healthy skin only....

Don't use if any abrasions or infection is present in the area you apply

it.

Also best to wet the skin, then apply it.

Re: [ ] DMSO

You are right on. My doctor put it in the B12 and instead of injecting

it, I put it on my wrists and it's suppose to soak in. My concern is

that I'm pregnant and want to know if it's safe. Any ideas? The doctor

that's using it is more into nutrition and natural things, so if she

thinks it safe it probably is, but want to make sure.

Diane

Re: [ ] DMSO

I'm sure there are others who can give a better answer, but I think

it's

DiMethylSulfOxide. I used to use it on some horses I took care of. I

would

mix liniments with the DMSO and apply it to their legs and joints. The

DMSO

is supposed to act as a carrying agent, in my case, to carry the

liniment

more deeply into the horse's leg. The stuff is wierd; if you touch it

on your

hand, you can almost instantly taste it in your mouth...not really a

pleasant

taste. I think some people also use it for arthritis, not sure on

that.

Debbie

December 10, 2002

>In very small amounts it is probalby OK, but it is one of the > " sulfur "

>things you have to watch for.

What does it do in larger amounts. I use 5 cc's a day, but I don't know how

much of that is the DMSO and how much is the B-12. I'm suppose to use it

everyday for a few months and again, I'm pregnant. Do you see harm in that?

>I have not heard of DMSO being used as a preservative before - is >this

compounding pharmacy product, or regular manufactured B-12 for

>injection? .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .

The doctor mixed it herself while I was in the office. It's suppose to help

transport the B-12 thru my veins in the wrist rather than having to have an

injection everyday. The reason for taking it is to have pleanty of B-12 to go

with my folic acid since my son has Spina Bifida and we're hoping this will help

this baby from having it. Thanks.

December 10, 2002

> >In very small amounts it is probalby OK, but it is one of the

> " sulfur "

> >things you have to watch for.

The reason for taking it is to

have pleanty of B-12 to go with my folic acid since my son has Spina

Bifida and we're hoping this will help this baby from having it.

Thanks.

>

Hi Diane,

How far along are you? The neural tube closes at around 28 days

gestation---nothing administered after that is going to affect spina

bifida risk one way or the other. I don't know that the DMSO or B-12

would hurt anything, but if you are nervous about it. . . .

Lissy

December 11, 2002

Lissy,

You're correct about the neural tube already being closed up, but we're hoping

that if it does have Spina Bifida, maybe the extra B's will be good for the

nerves that are exposed. Perhaps it won't, but at least I feel like I'm doing

something. I'm 5 1/2 weeks along, so I have a long ways to go. But getting

excited.

Diane

>Hi Diane,

How far along are you? The neural tube closes at around 28 days

gestation---nothing administered after that is going to affect spina

bifida risk one way or the other. I don't know that the DMSO or B-12

would hurt anything, but if you are nervous about it. . . .

Lissy

May 27, 2003

Our Vet supplies were GREAT about " warning " about CARCINOGENIC's. My vet

was an " old vet " ... and he said a lot of the younger vets don't use DMSO

much in small animal practice anymore. Our DMSO was the same identical

brand my sister used for her treatments! At one time before she had to

quit those treatments... the Vet was going to order it for her cheaper!

He was one who told me to not wear gloves when I rubbed it on the dogs!

Said it WOULD help my hands!

You would not believe all the MEDS a vet uses FIRST before Human's get

to use it. I guess if it is long term use with Vet's and doesn't kill

any animals or cause tumors, then it is final " research " step to release

for Human's! hahaha!

I can remember us using Vetabond long before the Human Surgeons used the

" glue " to glue instead of suture surgery's! Sometimes when we ran out of

the VetBond glue, he would send me frantically next door to the Dollar

Store to pick up some " SuperGlue " to use in emergencies!

ALL our " declaw's " for cats were " stuck together " with SUPERGLUE (or

vetbond), when we closed the hole where we yanked the claws out.

(No...he did NOT approve of owners doing this, and RARELY did this for

them. I did not approve either.) It had to be exceptional circumstances

for him to consent to doing them.

We even SuperGlued the " sacks " of dogs together when we did neuter!

(Unless we did the abdominal " incision " type surgery for a neuter.

Depended on the dog as to which way we did it!) Now Super gluing those

things! THAT is sweet revenge for all male's! Glue them things together!

I would get quite upset sometimes though. I would go to use a chemical

with animals, and the Vet said to ALWAYS read label even if he has said

he thought it ok. And you would sometimes see CARCINOGENIC in big

letters on the label! I was SUPER CAREFUL!

Actually most things we used were Carcinogenic! Funny how people spend

TONS of money on beloved pets, and never have a CLUE that vet med still

uses so many Carcinogenic's! And we wonder why our pets come down with

cancer's " out of the blue! "

We who have animals need to question ever Vet doctors, and demand we

know if a treatment is carcinogenic for our pets!

a... my sister WAS taking the DMSO for her Lupus! Intrevenious. I

don't recall the principal it was suppose to do. But it DID work for a

" remission. " Turns out the porta-cath she had implanted (as the Lupus

destroyed her veins) to be able to get veins... EXPLODED on her, rushed

to ER for ER surgery... they " caught " the line just before it had gone

into her heart! Now she can't have intrevenious type treatments of

anything. No " good veins " anymore...and she refuses ANOTHER Portacath!

Elf

a wrote:

> We used DMSO on our horses. I didn't realize it was used so much by

> vets.

> Usually if something is considered safe for animals, it is ok for

> people,

> but I know they don't encourage it's use in people. There are a lot

> of

> people that use it. I read that it was used by someone with

> scleroderma and

> when they soaked one of their affected hands in DMSO their soaked hand

>

> became soft. I'll have to look up it's use with Lupus.

> a

>

> > Yes, I know about DMSO. When I was Vet Tech, we used it a LOT on the

>

> > animals for injuries, sprains, etc.... Especially after injections

> for

> > the treatment of Heart Worms, when the dogs contracted Heart

> Worms....

> > It helped the vessels and leg when the caustic medicine for Heart

> Worm

> > treatment went in.

> > I noticed immediately that my HANDS would stop hurting when I

> " rubbed

> > down the dogs " with the DMSO! Amazing, I thought. Then the Vet

> explained

> > it to me!

> > Also, my sister (for her LUPUS) tried the treatment with the

> Intravenous

> > DMSO treatments. It worked wonders of her, and quality of life went

> up

> > considerably!

> > Susie

>

May 28, 2003

This thread is very interesting, a and Susie. I would add a note of

caution: if one uses DMSO, one should be sure that it is medical grade

and not industrial grade DMSO.

On MSM and DMSO from Arthritis Today:

http://www.arthritis.org/resources/arthritistoday/1999_archives/1999_11_12explor\

ations.asp

[ ] DMSO

> We used DMSO on our horses. I didn't realize it was used so much by

vets.

> Usually if something is considered safe for animals, it is ok for

people,

> but I know they don't encourage it's use in people. There are a lot

of

> people that use it. I read that it was used by someone with

scleroderma and

> when they soaked one of their affected hands in DMSO their soaked hand

> became soft. I'll have to look up it's use with Lupus.

> a

>

> > Yes, I know about DMSO. When I was Vet Tech, we used it a LOT on the

> > animals for injuries, sprains, etc.... Especially after injections

for

> > the treatment of Heart Worms, when the dogs contracted Heart

Worms....

> > It helped the vessels and leg when the caustic medicine for Heart

Worm

> > treatment went in.

> > I noticed immediately that my HANDS would stop hurting when I

" rubbed

> > down the dogs " with the DMSO! Amazing, I thought. Then the Vet

explained

> > it to me!

> > Also, my sister (for her LUPUS) tried the treatment with the

Intravenous

> > DMSO treatments. It worked wonders of her, and quality of life went

up

> > considerably!

> > Susie

May 29, 2003

Thanks for the article . I believe what I am taking is safe, but maybe

I'd better ask my doctor to get it for me if he will. The bottle I bought

says it is 99.7 pure, which according to what I've read, is safe. I was

surprised to read that even the vet's DMSO is industrial strength. It's

surprising that since it is such a wonderful anti-inflammatory, they

wouldn't make it available to us since it is safe and so effective.

a

> This thread is very interesting, a and Susie. I would add a note of

> caution: if one uses DMSO, one should be sure that it is medical grade

> and not industrial grade DMSO.

>

> On MSM and DMSO from Arthritis Today:

> http://www.arthritis.org/resources/arthritistoday/1999_archives/1999_11_12expl

> orations.asp

>

May 30, 2003

a if you want info on all aspects of the DMSO intrevenus treatments,

I can get you in touch with my sister. She SWEARS by it. She felt

totally healthy again. But had to stop because of the portacath busting

loose, and no veins now.

Susie

a wrote:

> Thanks for the article . I believe what I am taking is safe, but

> maybe

> I'd better ask my doctor to get it for me if he will. The bottle I

> bought

> says it is 99.7 pure, which according to what I've read, is safe. I

> was

> surprised to read that even the vet's DMSO is industrial strength.

> It's

> surprising that since it is such a wonderful anti-inflammatory, they

> wouldn't make it available to us since it is safe and so effective.

> a

>

> > This thread is very interesting, a and Susie. I would add a note

> of

> > caution: if one uses DMSO, one should be sure that it is medical

> grade

> > and not industrial grade DMSO.

> >

> > On MSM and DMSO from Arthritis Today:

> >

> http://www.arthritis.org/resources/arthritistoday/1999_archives/1999_11_12expl

>

> > orations.asp

> >

>

September 6, 2003

I've had some for a couple of years, and it's still good... don't know how long

it was on the shelf prior to me purchasing it.... but I think it should be

good...

" ph T. " wrote:

> Does DMSO have a shelf life? I have some that is a

> couple of years old and am wondering if its still

> good?

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May 5, 2004

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[ ] Squamous dithering decisions cansema dmso tumors

gospel music and parasites.

>

> Hi all; ;-)

>

> For anyone who is new to the forum...and battling Squamous oral

> cancer.

>

> I have a tumor on my chin just below the lower lip; that is the

> result of squamous cell oral cancer on the floor of the mouth;

> breaking through to the outside..This cancer started out under my

> tongue 2 years ago and there was the fear that it would attack the

> tongue and move down the throat as is often the case with many

> persons having this type of cancer...However what it has done is

> first cover the floor of the mouth from side to side and Praise be to

> God; it stayed clear of my throat and tongue..

>

> I believe that the reason for this is that I'm a singer and guitar

> player and so I am constantly (everyday) singing gospel music, and I

> swear that the parasties and cancer cells hate gospel songs and have

> been trying to get as far away from the source of that music as

> possible..As a result the mouth tumors have migrated (along with the

> parasites) from the floor of the mouth; which is now clear; over the

> gums; (which I think are gone; but maybe not); and have attached

> themselves to the inner lining of the lower lip..And now they (the

> parasites and the cancer cells) have gone on through to the other

> side...And so I have this new tumor sitting just under the lower lip

> on my chin..

>

> CANSEMA...I applied Cansema Salve to the tumor and after 13 days the

> eschar fell off..The tumor had grown considerably and was very

> agitated and so I have opted for treating the tumor with a milder

> salve containing goldenseal; tumeric; white willow bark; mixed with

> healing clay to paste it on the tumor..This is working good and the

> tumor seems happier and hasn't grown in the last couple of

> days..Phew!!! So I'm sticking with this milder salve while continuing

> to use the Cansema tonic which contains the same ingredients as the

> salve (or other escharotic salves)on the interior of the mouth as it

> seems to work well at keeping the mouth tumors at bay..

>

> I mix the Cansema Tonic (or one could use the salve) with a hot drink

> of the above ingredients of the goldenseal salve..I hold this tea in

> my mouth while the Bloodroot and the Zinc Chloride burn ever so

> nicely and then spit the tea out rather than swallowing..DO NOT

> SWALLOW ANY " BLACK TYPE SALVES " ..as after a short time you will have

> a massive upheaval of the gastric system..I speak out of

> experience...But as I've noted; this tea above; using the escharotic

> salve is VERY GOOD for clearing tumors out of the mouth..Tiny white

> eschars will form and then the mouth will go through a period of

> bleeding as the cancerous flesh is flushed out..It is very

> affective...ONe major mistake that the medical progession makes is

> always trying to " staunch " the bleeding as it freaks eveyone out..BUT

> I TELL YOU that at first I was very frightened until I had bled many

> times and then realized it was just part of the natural progression

> and purging of cancer cells (and parasites) from the healthy

> tissues...

>

> Back to the chin tumor...I've been told that when an eschar falls off

> to just reapply the escharotic salve and begin the process all over

> again and in fact it may take many applications to necrotize the

> tumor..But I'm wondering if this is true only with certain types of

> skin cancers and not applicable to a tumor such as mine...As I've

> said; it didn't decrease in size at all and in fact it grew much to

> my dismay..There is also the fact that the tumor on the outside is

> attached or interconnected to the tumors inside..so the " core " is not

> as an ordinary skin cancer..

>

> Now I'm wondering what the affect would be were I to reapply the

> escharotic salve mixed with DMSO to get deeper penetration and

> perhaps be succesful at necrotizing this tumor..It's size is about

> that of a nickel..in circumference..

>

> I hope that this post helps someone with Squamous oral and throat

> cancer..I welcome any comments on this " decision " that I have to make

> very soon..Does anyone here have experience in using the DMSO with

> CAnsema on a cancerous tumor with deep roots? Or know of anyone who

> has?

>

> Godbless

> melville.. ;-)

>

May 5, 2004

Can some recommend a good, reliable source of DMSO which is available through on

line store?

Thanks

Iris.

[ ] Squamous dithering decisions cansema dmso tumors gospel

music and parasites.

Hi all; ;-)

For anyone who is new to the forum...and battling Squamous oral

cancer.

I have a tumor on my chin just below the lower lip; that is the

result of squamous cell oral cancer on the floor of the mouth;

breaking through to the outside..This cancer started out under my

tongue 2 years ago and there was the fear that it would attack the

tongue and move down the throat as is often the case with many

persons having this type of cancer...However what it has done is

first cover the floor of the mouth from side to side and Praise be to

God; it stayed clear of my throat and tongue..

I believe that the reason for this is that I'm a singer and guitar

player and so I am constantly (everyday) singing gospel music, and I

swear that the parasties and cancer cells hate gospel songs and have

been trying to get as far away from the source of that music as

possible..As a result the mouth tumors have migrated (along with the

parasites) from the floor of the mouth; which is now clear; over the

gums; (which I think are gone; but maybe not); and have attached

themselves to the inner lining of the lower lip..And now they (the

parasites and the cancer cells) have gone on through to the other

side...And so I have this new tumor sitting just under the lower lip

on my chin..

CANSEMA...I applied Cansema Salve to the tumor and after 13 days the

eschar fell off..The tumor had grown considerably and was very

agitated and so I have opted for treating the tumor with a milder

salve containing goldenseal; tumeric; white willow bark; mixed with

healing clay to paste it on the tumor..This is working good and the

tumor seems happier and hasn't grown in the last couple of

days..Phew!!! So I'm sticking with this milder salve while continuing

to use the Cansema tonic which contains the same ingredients as the

salve (or other escharotic salves)on the interior of the mouth as it

seems to work well at keeping the mouth tumors at bay..

I mix the Cansema Tonic (or one could use the salve) with a hot drink

of the above ingredients of the goldenseal salve..I hold this tea in

my mouth while the Bloodroot and the Zinc Chloride burn ever so

nicely and then spit the tea out rather than swallowing..DO NOT

SWALLOW ANY " BLACK TYPE SALVES " ..as after a short time you will have

a massive upheaval of the gastric system..I speak out of

experience...But as I've noted; this tea above; using the escharotic

salve is VERY GOOD for clearing tumors out of the mouth..Tiny white

eschars will form and then the mouth will go through a period of

bleeding as the cancerous flesh is flushed out..It is very

affective...ONe major mistake that the medical progession makes is

always trying to " staunch " the bleeding as it freaks eveyone out..BUT

I TELL YOU that at first I was very frightened until I had bled many

times and then realized it was just part of the natural progression

and purging of cancer cells (and parasites) from the healthy

tissues...

Back to the chin tumor...I've been told that when an eschar falls off

to just reapply the escharotic salve and begin the process all over

again and in fact it may take many applications to necrotize the

tumor..But I'm wondering if this is true only with certain types of

skin cancers and not applicable to a tumor such as mine...As I've

said; it didn't decrease in size at all and in fact it grew much to

my dismay..There is also the fact that the tumor on the outside is

attached or interconnected to the tumors inside..so the " core " is not

as an ordinary skin cancer..

Now I'm wondering what the affect would be were I to reapply the

escharotic salve mixed with DMSO to get deeper penetration and

perhaps be succesful at necrotizing this tumor..It's size is about

that of a nickel..in circumference..

I hope that this post helps someone with Squamous oral and throat

cancer..I welcome any comments on this " decision " that I have to make

very soon..Does anyone here have experience in using the DMSO with

CAnsema on a cancerous tumor with deep roots? Or know of anyone who

has?

Godbless

melville.. ;-)

May 5, 2004

Thanks !

Iris