Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 > > Special Diets > > Description: Alteration of the participant's food intake for the > purpose of changing behavior. Many diets involve eliminating > substances from the participant's food intake. > > Examples: Gluten-Free (wheat), Casein-Free (dairy), Sugar Free, > Removal of food dyes, Foods thought to produce maladaptive behavior > > Research Summary: One well-designed but small study on the gluten- > free casein-free diet found no improvement in cognitive, language, or > motor skills with the diet; however, there may have been a reduction > in autistic behaviors such as repetitive statements This was the case for Ravi he was calmer in school and able to attend (It did not cure him) but calm him. I would agree that any diet alteration be done cautiously and fully. A nutritionist ordered blood tests showing sensitivity and malabsorption of necessary vitamins and minerals. All dietary changes require research (even weight loss) I am vegan but there are people that we refer to as " potato vegans " People assume that one just removes animal products from their diet but that is incorrect. One must still get what a body requires to function. This means paying attention to eat a varied diet even if one has restrictions. vitamis work when one is careful of the source absorption rate of the type of supplements(tablets deliver 35%) of what their label suggests. Liquids 85% and that has to do with human digestion and absorption. some substances will simly not go to the area one thinks when they buy a product. (toxic chemicals will travel to the brain and cross the blood brain barier where vitamins may not) it has to do with molecule size and quality. so there is alot of biology involved, anyone can read this stuff but many don't have time or patience. We go to doctors but sadly we assume they keep up, but here again that isn't always the case. mimi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 All the diets I have seen seem to eliminate gluten (or all grains) and dairy completely. I have found that eliminating gluten and dairy has helped me, but eliminating all grains is very difficult. I have also not noticed any problems when I have added rice and quinoa, with some buckwheat (not a grain) and amaranth. I have not yet tried millet, but when I was on a gluten-free diet some years ago I noticed no problems with millet. I would suggest you find a diet and follow it for a while (at least 3 months or so), and then experiment. It takes about a year to get rid of all problems from gluten, so if that is a problem, it isn't something that has a quick fix. I take fish oil, B vitamins, vitamin D (lack of sunlight is chronic here in winter, and sometimes in spring and autumn), vitamin C, zinc, magnesium and Coenzyme Q10. I was checked for the levels of all those and more, but they are the ones that came back low or borderline - except for vitamin C, but everyone seems to believe you need that. I also have Brazil nuts for selenium, but that is a problem only in some parts of the world. If soil levels are sufficient where you are, it won't be a problem. I am also taking ritalin and may need something for depression, but have to wait to see a psychiatrist for that. I also believe medication should be temporary - i.e. as long as you need it and no longer. But healing with diet and supplements is a slow process, and sometimes you need something quicker. You will get much better results for pro-biotics than any sort of yoghurt. But yoghurt is good for maintenance once things are back in balance. You can't take it while eliminating dairy, despite what some people say, just like spelt and rye are not really gluten-free as many believe.  Hi, I lurk but rarely post here, lots of great information! My son is 7 and high functioning with severe ADHD and ODD. I have dabbled with diet off and on. I never wanted to medicate him but consider it temporary until I can find a better way. I have found certain supplements that help, L theanine, B vitamins and Fish Oils. With these supplements I can keep his medication dosages low. I would like to start a special diet for him in the summer, want some tips on getting on new foods and if dairy and gluten need to be eliminated completely? Whole milk yogurt is cultured and should heal gut issues, correct? Thanks! Tracie No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5020 - Release Date: 05/24/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 We did gluten free with my ASD son and I didn't find that it made any difference. However when we did the Feingold Diet, there were huge changes. We weaned him through the phases/stages and ended up stopping at the place that was best for us. (that will make more sense if you read about the diet.) The one thing we are extremely strict on is all food dyes/colorings. If he eats coloring (which is in OH so much food!) i can tell immediately. He is irritable, often aggressive, hyper and difficult. We work very hard to keep the colors away from him. I think that the Feingold diet gets much less press and often works much better than DFCF. Hope that helps! - All the diets I have seen seem to eliminate gluten (or all grains) and dairy completely. I have found that eliminating gluten and dairy has helped me, but eliminating all grains is very difficult. I have also not noticed any problems when I have added rice and quinoa, with some buckwheat (not a grain) and amaranth. I have not yet tried millet, but when I was on a gluten-free diet some years ago I noticed no problems with millet. I would suggest you find a diet and follow it for a while (at least 3 months or so), and then experiment. It takes about a year to get rid of all problems from gluten, so if that is a problem, it isn't something that has a quick fix. I take fish oil, B vitamins, vitamin D (lack of sunlight is chronic here in winter, and sometimes in spring and autumn), vitamin C, zinc, magnesium and Coenzyme Q10. I was checked for the levels of all those and more, but they are the ones that came back low or borderline - except for vitamin C, but everyone seems to believe you need that. I also have Brazil nuts for selenium, but that is a problem only in some parts of the world. If soil levels are sufficient where you are, it won't be a problem. I am also taking ritalin and may need something for depression, but have to wait to see a psychiatrist for that. I also believe medication should be temporary - i.e. as long as you need it and no longer. But healing with diet and supplements is a slow process, and sometimes you need something quicker. You will get much better results for pro-biotics than any sort of yoghurt. But yoghurt is good for maintenance once things are back in balance. You can't take it while eliminating dairy, despite what some people say, just like spelt and rye are not really gluten-free as many believe. Hi, I lurk but rarely post here, lots of great information! My son is 7 and high functioning with severe ADHD and ODD. I have dabbled with diet off and on. I never wanted to medicate him but consider it temporary until I can find a better way. I have found certain supplements that help, L theanine, B vitamins and Fish Oils. With these supplements I can keep his medication dosages low. I would like to start a special diet for him in the summer, want some tips on getting on new foods and if dairy and gluten need to be eliminated completely? Whole milk yogurt is cultured and should heal gut issues, correct? Thanks! Tracie No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5020 - Release Date: 05/24/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Thank you and lots of good information for me to consider , I appreciate that! The thing with Feingold is the artificial flavors and colors, right? I have always bought natural foods and he has never had stuff like Fruit Loops or candy, I buy natural stuff. I throw away (I know that is mean) any holiday candy he is given, he gets Ezekiel type bread. Should I still consider looking into the diet? > > > > > > > > Hi, I lurk but rarely post here, lots of great information! > > > > My son is 7 and high functioning with severe ADHD and ODD. I have dabbled > > with diet off and on. I never wanted to medicate him but consider it > > temporary until I can find a better way. I have found certain supplements > > that help, L theanine, B vitamins and Fish Oils. With these supplements I > > can keep his medication dosages low. > > I would like to start a special diet for him in the summer, want some tips > > on getting on new foods and if dairy and gluten need to be eliminated > > completely? > > Whole milk yogurt is cultured and should heal gut issues, correct? > > > > Thanks! > > Tracie > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5020 - Release Date: 05/24/12 > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 I would still look into it. The feingold diet has several layers to it- the preservatives and food dyes are just one component. It's based more on the salicylate acids that are in many other foods- like different fruits and veggies. We did find through the stages of the diet that apples are also a trigger for our son. I found it to be extremely helpful. And the way it's laid out, you're able to customize it to your child as you discover which foods are causing problems. Thank you and lots of good information for me to consider , I appreciate that! The thing with Feingold is the artificial flavors and colors, right? I have always bought natural foods and he has never had stuff like Fruit Loops or candy, I buy natural stuff. I throw away (I know that is mean) any holiday candy he is given, he gets Ezekiel type bread. Should I still consider looking into the diet? > > > > > > > > Hi, I lurk but rarely post here, lots of great information! > > > > My son is 7 and high functioning with severe ADHD and ODD. I have dabbled > > with diet off and on. I never wanted to medicate him but consider it > > temporary until I can find a better way. I have found certain supplements > > that help, L theanine, B vitamins and Fish Oils. With these supplements I > > can keep his medication dosages low. > > I would like to start a special diet for him in the summer, want some tips > > on getting on new foods and if dairy and gluten need to be eliminated > > completely? > > Whole milk yogurt is cultured and should heal gut issues, correct? > > > > Thanks! > > Tracie > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5020 - Release Date: 05/24/12 > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 Thanks ! ok, I did not know that natural foods could be a trigger, wow I will check out the Feingold! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I lurk but rarely post here, lots of great information! > > > > > > > > My son is 7 and high functioning with severe ADHD and ODD. I have > > dabbled > > > > with diet off and on. I never wanted to medicate him but consider it > > > > temporary until I can find a better way. I have found certain > > supplements > > > > that help, L theanine, B vitamins and Fish Oils. With these > > supplements I > > > > can keep his medication dosages low. > > > > I would like to start a special diet for him in the summer, want some > > tips > > > > on getting on new foods and if dairy and gluten need to be eliminated > > > > completely? > > > > Whole milk yogurt is cultured and should heal gut issues, correct? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Tracie > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5020 - Release Date: > > 05/24/12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 We had the IgG4 test for foods run on our daughter. She was found to have sensitivities to wheat, egg, peanut, rye, buckwheat, pecan and cherries. We eliminated them in 2009, I think. She is healed well enough now that she can do a rotation diet. We allow items once a week but no more than that. When we first began, the Dr told us to eliminate the items, after six weeks reintroduce one item in copious amounts. If the behaviors return then you know what she can't have. It first, we notices that she didn't cry as much so that was enough for us to just continue the diet with doing the reintroduction test. I sent her to girl scout camp that summer. We picked her up from a week long camp and we were not in the car 15 minutes and she was driving us insane. I found out the next day from my friend's daughter that my daughter had eaten pancakes, waffles and everything else...all week long. Mom wasn't there to enforce the diet so she went all out. Lol! It took a week for her to come off of it. We never doubted the diet after that. The latter part of last her we decided to try it again. She came off the diet for a month before we noticed symptoms. We were at the school about three weeks after we reintroduced the diet and two of the teachers asked if she was back on her diet. I said yes and they both said "good". They both noticed a difference. Even she notices that she feels better if she stays on the diet. She is now 15 so we don't have to watch her as close as we did. She does pretty well.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -- Special Diets Hi, I lurk but rarely post here, lots of great information! My son is 7 and high functioning with severe ADHD and ODD. I have dabbled with diet off and on. I never wanted to medicate him but consider it temporary until I can find a better way. I have found certain supplements that help, L theanine, B vitamins and Fish Oils. With these supplements I can keep his medication dosages low.I would like to start a special diet for him in the summer, want some tips on getting on new foods and if dairy and gluten need to be eliminated completely? Whole milk yogurt is cultured and should heal gut issues, correct?Thanks!Tracie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 I didn't know there was a test for sensitivities, only allergies? Is IgG4 that a blood test?? > > We had the IgG4 test for foods run on our daughter. She was found to have > sensitivities to wheat, egg, peanut, rye, buckwheat, pecan and cherries. We > eliminated them in 2009, I think. She is healed well enough now that she can > do a rotation diet. We allow items once a week but no more than that. When > we first began, the Dr told us to eliminate the items, after six weeks > reintroduce one item in copious amounts. If the behaviors return then you > know what she can't have. It first, we notices that she didn't cry as much > so that was enough for us to just continue the diet with doing the > reintroduction test. > > I sent her to girl scout camp that summer. We picked her up from a week long > camp and we were not in the car 15 minutes and she was driving us insane. I > found out the next day from my friend's daughter that my daughter had eaten > pancakes, waffles and everything else...all week long. Mom wasn't there to > enforce the diet so she went all out. Lol! It took a week for her to come > off of it. We never doubted the diet after that. > > The latter part of last her we decided to try it again. She came off the > diet for a month before we noticed symptoms. We were at the school about > three weeks after we reintroduced the diet and two of the teachers asked if > she was back on her diet. I said yes and they both said " good " . They both > noticed a difference. Even she notices that she feels better if she stays on > the diet. She is now 15 so we don't have to watch her as close as we did. > She does pretty well. > > > >   > Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; > Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. > One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. > -- Special Diets > > > Hi, I lurk but rarely post here, lots of great information! > > My son is 7 and high functioning with severe ADHD and ODD. I have dabbled > with diet off and on. I never wanted to medicate him but consider it > temporary until I can find a better way. I have found certain supplements > that help, L theanine, B vitamins and Fish Oils. With these supplements I > can keep his medication dosages low. > I would like to start a special diet for him in the summer, want some tips > on getting on new foods and if dairy and gluten need to be eliminated > completely? > Whole milk yogurt is cultured and should heal gut issues, correct? > > Thanks! > Tracie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Yes it is a blood test. It's not a 100%. You can be positive for something and it not cause problems. But the test was a starting place for me. IgE allergic reaction is the throat closing, itchy...potentially life threatening reaction. IgG is in the gut. It is controversial but I'm a believer. My daughter's psychiatrist was a DO and he order the test in the beginning. Now we see a provider that specializes in AS/ASD. She ordered the retest. It can be hard to find a Dr that will order the test. The regular lab ran the tests for us.   Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. -- Special Diets> > > Hi, I lurk but rarely post here, lots of great information! > > My son is 7 and high functioning with severe ADHD and ODD. I have dabbled> with diet off and on. I never wanted to medicate him but consider it> temporary until I can find a better way. I have found certain supplements> that help, L theanine, B vitamins and Fish Oils. With these supplements I> can keep his medication dosages low.> I would like to start a special diet for him in the summer, want some tips> on getting on new foods and if dairy and gluten need to be eliminated> completely? > Whole milk yogurt is cultured and should heal gut issues, correct?> > Thanks!> Tracie> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Hi, our high functioning ASD son is 6, and we've found that removing gluten as a whole is the best fit for him. Since he doesn't care for milk products, outside of hard cheese, this hasn't been an issue for us. We give him a magnesium/D3/calcium supplement, along with omegas, garlic oil, B12, enzymes, probiotics, and a whole food based multi. With these supplements, almost all taken daily, and a gluten free diet he does well at maintaining good behavior (less stimming, compulsive, aggressive, oppositional responses/reactions). He's also more helpful, curious, adventurous and overall more enjoyable company. Just a note, we've not done any blood/stool work. It's too traumatizing for all of us. We did work with a chiropractor/neurologist, and this was his recommendation for a child on the spectrum. Our son also had all the symptoms of leaky gut syndrome. Once we removed gluten from his diet, and had his class schedule include water breaks, we noticed a reduction in symptoms w/in a week. He is now (leaky gut) symptom free. Since we went gluten free, there have been a couple " accidents " along the way, and he has eaten foods containing gluten. WOW, reactions are w/in a couple of hours and take around two weeks to level out. From what I've read, it takes 6 months to completely rid the system, but our sons symptoms begin to improve each week he is gluten free. Going GF was pretty scary at first, but after reading about it more and thinking about our family diet overall, it really was a simple switch. Life saver products for us have been Cheetos's, Doritos, Nestle chocolate covered raisins, Udi's bread/waffles, Pamela's baking mixes, GF spaghetti noodles and Bob's Red Mill GF oats. We try to eat a standard protein/veggie/carb dinner. So this may be chicken, broccoli and rice/potato. We season with products like salt/pepper/garlic salt and olive oil and eat mostly fresh/frozen fruits & veggies. We had to cut out 's cream soup in our casserole dishes, b/c they are not GF. Instead, we use soup stock for added liquid/flavoring. There are websites that offer seasoning/food lists for products containing common allergens (wheat/nut/dairy/gluten/egg/etc.), to help relieve the issues folks had 10 years ago when faced with diet issues. One more thing, if your son has any leaky gut symptoms, it may be beneficial to steer clear of anything with a high sugar content, even that in yogurt. The yeast feeds on the sugar/carbs ingested by folks with gut issues. That's why they say these individuals tend to crave these things. This is one reason our son takes a garlic supplement, it's a natural anti-fungal. Good luck, I hope this helps. It was a scary switch, and I was really worried about the cost. By trying to keep it simple and only adding/changing what we had to, it eased a lot of the stress. Is it easy on our son? Not always, but most of the time, it's not too much of a hardship. We communicated with his school, pack his lunch and snack, and when there's a party (we know about) we send him with his own treat. We also talked to him about why we are not eating certain foods anymore, and how we hope that in time, they will be something that we'll enjoy again. If he asks for something not on our " list " , it's a simple " we don't eat that anymore. " If he persists, then the reason why, simplified, is explained and we talk about all the goodies we still get to enjoy, along with all the good things we get to do b/c of the good choices we make. Many blessings to all of you out there! > > > > We had the IgG4 test for foods run on our daughter. She was found to have > > sensitivities to wheat, egg, peanut, rye, buckwheat, pecan and cherries. > We > > eliminated them in 2009, I think. She is healed well enough now that she > can > > do a rotation diet. We allow items once a week but no more than that. When > > we first began, the Dr told us to eliminate the items, after six weeks > > reintroduce one item in copious amounts. If the behaviors return then you > > know what she can't have. It first, we notices that she didn't cry as much > > so that was enough for us to just continue the diet with doing the > > reintroduction test. > > > > I sent her to girl scout camp that summer. We picked her up from a week > long > > camp and we were not in the car 15 minutes and she was driving us insane. > I > > found out the next day from my friend's daughter that my daughter had > eaten > > pancakes, waffles and everything else...all week long. Mom wasn't there to > > enforce the diet so she went all out. Lol! It took a week for her to come > > off of it. We never doubted the diet after that. > > > > The latter part of last her we decided to try it again. She came off the > > diet for a month before we noticed symptoms. We were at the school about > > three weeks after we reintroduced the diet and two of the teachers asked > if > > she was back on her diet. I said yes and they both said " good " . They both > > noticed a difference. Even she notices that she feels better if she stays > on > > the diet. She is now 15 so we don't have to watch her as close as we did. > > She does pretty well. > > > > > > > >   > > Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you; > > Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. > > One died for your soul; the other for your freedom. > > -- Special Diets > > > > > > Hi, I lurk but rarely post here, lots of great information! > > > > My son is 7 and high functioning with severe ADHD and ODD. I have dabbled > > with diet off and on. I never wanted to medicate him but consider it > > temporary until I can find a better way. I have found certain supplements > > that help, L theanine, B vitamins and Fish Oils. With these supplements I > > can keep his medication dosages low. > > I would like to start a special diet for him in the summer, want some tips > > on getting on new foods and if dairy and gluten need to be eliminated > > completely? > > Whole milk yogurt is cultured and should heal gut issues, correct? > > > > Thanks! > > Tracie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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