Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hi Peggy and welcome back, although I'm sorry to hear that your daughter's OCD is back... She certainly sounds like a very insightful adolescent! Do you think she could have a talk with my 17 year old " treatment resistant " son??? That's great that she is taking ownership and looking to help herself. I would follow her lead in this. Since she already has experience with this and has successfully challenged the thoughts she may be able to do this herself. From our experience with a teen and OCD they really do have to be on board. So, if you see things progressing and getting worse, you might mention the psychologist and see her response. From what we have been told there is little point in doing CBT unless they are ready, and in fact it goes against the treatment protocol, at least that is what we have been told. On the other hand sometimes at this age it can really increase in severity, as we experienced and I have seen others post. Instability with hormones and brain growing and changing can influence this I think. So, it's good to keep an eye on it and just gage things accordingly. For some this is the point at which they needed to add medication, or anxiety remedy of some kind. Just good idea to be prepared for this in case. I would hope that your daughter's previous work combatting the thoughts will serve her now, since ultimately the answer is to challenge the thoughts. You might want to check out the website - westsuffolkpsych.homestead.com. Fred Penzel has some good articles on it, and one for teens also. Barb Ontario, Canada Son, 17, OCD, LD > > Hi everyone, > > I'm back after about a 2 year break. My daughter (13 - will be 8th > grader)has OCD tendencies. In 4th grade she had " bad thoughts " that > were intrusive and very disruptive. I put her on inositol and St > 's Wort - explained what was happening (OCD) and put her in > counseling for a few months. Things settled down very nicely. > > During the past year I have suspected things were going on again. I > suspected something was going on again, but she would deny it and > refuse to take inositol again when I would ask. Last week she came > to me and said the OCD was back. I gave her BrainLock to read and > now she has asked to take the inositol and St 's again because > the book recommends taking something when you start the program. So > nice to have her taking the responsibility for herself and asking for > it. > > At this point I am not planning on doing anything else unless there > isn't improvement by September. Is this a mistake? I hesitate to > do anything that isn't her choice since as an adolescent she has a > tendency to get much more out of something if she chooses to do it. > I'm thinking if things don't improve for her she will be open to > seeing a psychologist. There is one 30 miles from here that has been > great for a boy with OCD who is now in his 20's. > > Are there any great resources for teens? When she was in 4th grade > she was much more open with us than she is now. I'd like to provide > her with a safe place to discuss what is going on with her. > > Thanks, > Peggy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Barb - Question...you mention that with a teen from what you have been told, they really need to be on board..otherwise, unless they are ready - there is little point in doing CBT? I know exactly what that means...How do you know if they are really ready or willing to do the homework - so to speak? And let me say, I am not quoting you or taking your words to be gospel..it is more of a question so I can understand more. Thanks > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm back after about a 2 year break. My daughter (13 - will be 8th > > grader)has OCD tendencies. In 4th grade she had " bad thoughts " > that > > were intrusive and very disruptive. I put her on inositol and St > > 's Wort - explained what was happening (OCD) and put her in > > counseling for a few months. Things settled down very nicely. > > > > During the past year I have suspected things were going on again. > I > > suspected something was going on again, but she would deny it and > > refuse to take inositol again when I would ask. Last week she came > > to me and said the OCD was back. I gave her BrainLock to read and > > now she has asked to take the inositol and St 's again because > > the book recommends taking something when you start the program. > So > > nice to have her taking the responsibility for herself and asking > for > > it. > > > > At this point I am not planning on doing anything else unless there > > isn't improvement by September. Is this a mistake? I hesitate to > > do anything that isn't her choice since as an adolescent she has a > > tendency to get much more out of something if she chooses to do > it. > > I'm thinking if things don't improve for her she will be open to > > seeing a psychologist. There is one 30 miles from here that has > been > > great for a boy with OCD who is now in his 20's. > > > > Are there any great resources for teens? When she was in 4th grade > > she was much more open with us than she is now. I'd like to > provide > > her with a safe place to discuss what is going on with her. > > > > Thanks, > > Peggy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 " How do you know if they are really ready or willing to do the homework - so to speak? " Well now that would be the ten million dollar question. I can only really speak to our own situation. In our case it's more a matter of not being willing, and that we know by the strong negative response we get from our son at the suggestion that he see his doctor, or any doctor. His experience with doctors for the past two years has been negative and I don't think he trusts anyone anymore and doesn't believe they know what they are doing, or that they can help him. At this point I'm not sure I disagree with him. Honestly I think our son is actually doing a lot on his own, as he seems to have figured out how to work through some things, so it is not so much a lack of will, as not being willing to work with a doctor. In the end I think it is up to each person to have an understanding of their OCD and how it manifests and then to know how to handle it. If he feels he can live his life adequately then that's his decision. If at some point it is a barrier to something he wants to do I think his motivation will shift, and in fact I think life presents these opportunities daily for someone with OCD. There are so many factors involved in being ready, willing and able. Severity of the OCD, stability with medication and/or mood, maturity to be self responsible(I'm thinking older kids). I think the will is perhaps the last block once the other hurdles are crossed, and that one is pretty individual. What makes one person rise beyond hardship and another be pulled under? I think again, one has to see something beyond the present circumstances, a life beyond illness and this disorder. This I think is a process to coming to. Not sure how much this helps, but this has been our experience with this question. Barb -- In , " bacongirl999 " wrote: > > Barb - Question...you mention that with a teen from what you have > been told, they really need to be on board..otherwise, unless they > are ready - there is little point in doing CBT? I know exactly what > And let me say, I am not quoting you > or taking your words to be gospel..it is more of a question so I can > understand more. Thanks > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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