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Oh Diane, I am so sorry to read about the loss of your garden. You

were so excited about the prospect of gardening.

Why don't you find out if there are community gardens in your area?

Many areas have them. You are given a plot to do with as you like in

the way of planting. The land is divided up and there are others

planting their plots as well, so this could also be more fun as you

could talk with your gardening neighbors. Some folks have been

gardening the same plots for years, and are very knowledgeable.

You might check with your Town or city offices about it.

I was sad to see you had left the group, but glad we weren't the

cause of your leaving.

Chin up, if you can't have a community plot, why not have your hubby

build you some large boxes and you can plant in them if you have a

patio, porch or other outdoor spot you can call your own.

Arianne

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That's a good point, Sharon. African Violets are a treasure to grow.

Diane, there is an International Association of African Violet

growers. That is a good plant in that they bloom on and off all year

long, they aren't expensive to buy, and are available everywhere.

They also are beautiful little plants.

Why don't you try your hand at it?

Arianne

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Hi Diane:

Well, this situation sounds like a real pain in the neck to me. How old is this

uncle? He sounds like a grumpy old person to me and I'm 62 so he's got to be 90

years old easy. Is this a place you absolutely have to live in? It sure would

help your stress level in a big way if you weren't living where you are now.

When I was married to my first husband, right after the wedding his mother asked

him if she could live with us. He was her only child and she just couldn't

adjust to the fact that he no longer lived with her. I nearly passed out when

I heard this but when my ex-husband told her it wasn't a good idea, she made a

suicide attempt (does anybody smell manipulation here?). So he ended up moving

her into the apartment right below ours. It was a nightmare as she felt she

could come over all the time and would be welcomed with open arms.

This went on for four years until we saved up money to buy a house and then she

wanted to move into that place, too. When she was told no that time, she

decided not to speak to us for over a year. That actually lowered the stress

level except that my ex was always worried that she was going to try to kill

herself again. She lived to be 89 years old.

If the old codger won't let you put some containers with plants in them out

there, tell him that without plants you may very well go around the bend and

when that happens there's no telling what could happen. lol What's your

mother-in-law's input on this? If you are paying the same rent as the previous

tenant, then you should be getting the same privileges.

[snip]We don't have a rental agreement because the

landlord is my mother-in-law, so everything was very casual. [snip]

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Hi Diane:

Well, this situation sounds like a real pain in the neck to me. How old is this

uncle? He sounds like a grumpy old person to me and I'm 62 so he's got to be 90

years old easy. Is this a place you absolutely have to live in? It sure would

help your stress level in a big way if you weren't living where you are now.

When I was married to my first husband, right after the wedding his mother asked

him if she could live with us. He was her only child and she just couldn't

adjust to the fact that he no longer lived with her. I nearly passed out when

I heard this but when my ex-husband told her it wasn't a good idea, she made a

suicide attempt (does anybody smell manipulation here?). So he ended up moving

her into the apartment right below ours. It was a nightmare as she felt she

could come over all the time and would be welcomed with open arms.

This went on for four years until we saved up money to buy a house and then she

wanted to move into that place, too. When she was told no that time, she

decided not to speak to us for over a year. That actually lowered the stress

level except that my ex was always worried that she was going to try to kill

herself again. She lived to be 89 years old.

If the old codger won't let you put some containers with plants in them out

there, tell him that without plants you may very well go around the bend and

when that happens there's no telling what could happen. lol What's your

mother-in-law's input on this? If you are paying the same rent as the previous

tenant, then you should be getting the same privileges.

[snip]We don't have a rental agreement because the

landlord is my mother-in-law, so everything was very casual. [snip]

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Hi Diane:

Well, this situation sounds like a real pain in the neck to me. How old is this

uncle? He sounds like a grumpy old person to me and I'm 62 so he's got to be 90

years old easy. Is this a place you absolutely have to live in? It sure would

help your stress level in a big way if you weren't living where you are now.

When I was married to my first husband, right after the wedding his mother asked

him if she could live with us. He was her only child and she just couldn't

adjust to the fact that he no longer lived with her. I nearly passed out when

I heard this but when my ex-husband told her it wasn't a good idea, she made a

suicide attempt (does anybody smell manipulation here?). So he ended up moving

her into the apartment right below ours. It was a nightmare as she felt she

could come over all the time and would be welcomed with open arms.

This went on for four years until we saved up money to buy a house and then she

wanted to move into that place, too. When she was told no that time, she

decided not to speak to us for over a year. That actually lowered the stress

level except that my ex was always worried that she was going to try to kill

herself again. She lived to be 89 years old.

If the old codger won't let you put some containers with plants in them out

there, tell him that without plants you may very well go around the bend and

when that happens there's no telling what could happen. lol What's your

mother-in-law's input on this? If you are paying the same rent as the previous

tenant, then you should be getting the same privileges.

[snip]We don't have a rental agreement because the

landlord is my mother-in-law, so everything was very casual. [snip]

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well if you dont have rental agreement then he should not have problem i

think that there not much he can do if you do as long as they are not

pernment, put them out during day pull them in at night.thats terrable to

live with a person that denies a person simple pleasures,grow the spices in your

window at leat you can have some granding planes.they smell good in you

house .and live it up. hugs nanna

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well if you dont have rental agreement then he should not have problem i

think that there not much he can do if you do as long as they are not

pernment, put them out during day pull them in at night.thats terrable to

live with a person that denies a person simple pleasures,grow the spices in your

window at leat you can have some granding planes.they smell good in you

house .and live it up. hugs nanna

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Arianne wrote:

> Oh Diane, I am so sorry to read about the loss of your garden. You

> were so excited about the prospect of gardening.

> Why don't you find out if there are community gardens in your area?

>*******************************************************************

Hi!

Just had to tell a story about a community garden here in Seattle.

It was back in about 1976-1977 era. A lot of people were coming to

Seattle from Vietnam and Cambodia. They were people used to growing

their own veggies and such. These people were given space along the

freeway in an area safe from the road but visible to all passing by.

Several (about fifty or so...) of the growers had planted marijuana!

It wasn't discovered until the plants were about three feet high..the

state was so embarassed! it was a hoot to read about...the growth was

burned out and you didn't want to get too close to the smoke...unless

of course you wanted to...;)

I believe Pea patches and community gardens are a wonderful idea.

Another idea...do you live in a cul-de-sac? those usually have a

commuity garden attached don't they? A lot of them are left untended

but some are just beautiful and much appreciated by all the residents.

God Bless,

Daphne

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Arianne wrote:

> Oh Diane, I am so sorry to read about the loss of your garden. You

> were so excited about the prospect of gardening.

> Why don't you find out if there are community gardens in your area?

>*******************************************************************

Hi!

Just had to tell a story about a community garden here in Seattle.

It was back in about 1976-1977 era. A lot of people were coming to

Seattle from Vietnam and Cambodia. They were people used to growing

their own veggies and such. These people were given space along the

freeway in an area safe from the road but visible to all passing by.

Several (about fifty or so...) of the growers had planted marijuana!

It wasn't discovered until the plants were about three feet high..the

state was so embarassed! it was a hoot to read about...the growth was

burned out and you didn't want to get too close to the smoke...unless

of course you wanted to...;)

I believe Pea patches and community gardens are a wonderful idea.

Another idea...do you live in a cul-de-sac? those usually have a

commuity garden attached don't they? A lot of them are left untended

but some are just beautiful and much appreciated by all the residents.

God Bless,

Daphne

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> Hi Diane:

> Well, this situation sounds like a real pain in the neck to me.

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Hi Diane,

OK so I have another GREAT! idea..

While your uncle is out in the yard puttering around, follow him and

critique everything he does....after a while he will get so upset he

will say..... " IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO IT BETTER!!! "

then you will have your garden, it shouldn't take more than a day or

two....You see, I have eight brothers and a long time hubby (22

years) it works every time..men hate to be critiqued...

Good luck!

Daphne

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> Hi Diane:

> Well, this situation sounds like a real pain in the neck to me.

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Hi Diane,

OK so I have another GREAT! idea..

While your uncle is out in the yard puttering around, follow him and

critique everything he does....after a while he will get so upset he

will say..... " IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO IT BETTER!!! "

then you will have your garden, it shouldn't take more than a day or

two....You see, I have eight brothers and a long time hubby (22

years) it works every time..men hate to be critiqued...

Good luck!

Daphne

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Daphne:

That happened not to far from here several years back. I live in a very

rural area. I can't remember how it happened but, somehow or other these

young men got caught growing MJ in a chicken coup. They had been doing it

for years and had made a fortune until they were caught.

What was even funnier is that most of the people in the county knew they

were doing it. I get the distinct impression that our former sheriff was in

on it somehow and that is why they were never busted. When the new sheriff

was voted in, he busted them wide open.

Sam

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Daphne:

That happened not to far from here several years back. I live in a very

rural area. I can't remember how it happened but, somehow or other these

young men got caught growing MJ in a chicken coup. They had been doing it

for years and had made a fortune until they were caught.

What was even funnier is that most of the people in the county knew they

were doing it. I get the distinct impression that our former sheriff was in

on it somehow and that is why they were never busted. When the new sheriff

was voted in, he busted them wide open.

Sam

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Daphne:

That happened not to far from here several years back. I live in a very

rural area. I can't remember how it happened but, somehow or other these

young men got caught growing MJ in a chicken coup. They had been doing it

for years and had made a fortune until they were caught.

What was even funnier is that most of the people in the county knew they

were doing it. I get the distinct impression that our former sheriff was in

on it somehow and that is why they were never busted. When the new sheriff

was voted in, he busted them wide open.

Sam

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