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That stuff does go around.

You can usually tell if it is a telemarketer because many of those auto-answering gimmick are designed to listen for you to do: Hello?...pause...Hello? That's when it picks up. Some are quicker, but many work that way. It always makes me bristle and get ready to bite whoever is on the other end. What is so typical is that the politicians pass a law limiting telemarketing calls, but then exempt themselves from it.

I haven't gotten any latter scams lately though. I think the last one I got was one of those "you've won a foreign lottery you didn't even enter" things. That was like 6 years ago or more now.

These things thrive on greed. There are enough greedy and silly people out there to fall for these scams and that is why they keep going.

For anyone who allows their children to answer the phone, beware. Market research being conducted on behalf of political candidtates willbe asking for opinions of touchy subjects.Saturday morning, 9:30am, the phone rings and my thirteen year olddaughter answers it, says hello, pause, wait........, holds the phoneaway from her ear and looks to me and says I think they need to talk toyou. I ask, who is it and she tells me that they were asking for anopinion about abortion! I took the phone and asked the operator whatshe was phoning about. She said that they were conducting a surveyabout abortion. I told her that she should have confirmed the age ofthe person she was speaking to before asking anything and that she hadjust asked the opinion of a thirteen year old girl. The operatorquickly said thank you and hung up.I called the number on the caller ID back immediately and got arecording from Telestar Marketing. I left a message with them and thenproceded to go on line and find the company, with which I also left amessage. I have received an email this morning from the director andplan to give him the details of what happened also.So, later Saturday morning I get a letter in the mail from someone Inever met. It was one of those pyramid scheme letters, send a dollar toevery name on the list and this isn't illegal at all. Like Hell itaint! So, I filed a complaint with the Illinois & Wisconsin (where theletter was mailed from) Attorney Generals and will be bringing theletter the the Postmaster where they can decide what appropriate actionshould be taken. I had looked up the name of the man who sent theletter and found the address and name are real, so my husband called thenumber I found. In the letter it had stated that the man was a retiredattorney, so my husband asked about his previous position at the lawfirm and the man said that he had just copied the letter he got andpassed it along. Then he told my husband that he was going to recordthe conversation, wherein my husband hung up. My husband looked at meand said that the guy sounded like some poor smuck who believed he wouldget rich passing the letter along and felt a little sorry for him. NOTME!Sorry for the rant. I just get so sick of stupidity!Kim Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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For anyone who allows their children to answer the phone, beware.

Market research being conducted on behalf of political candidtates will

be asking for opinions of touchy subjects.

Saturday morning, 9:30am, the phone rings and my thirteen year old

daughter answers it, says hello, pause, wait........, holds the phone

away from her ear and looks to me and says I think they need to talk to

you. I ask, who is it and she tells me that they were asking for an

opinion about abortion! I took the phone and asked the operator what

she was phoning about. She said that they were conducting a survey

about abortion. I told her that she should have confirmed the age of

the person she was speaking to before asking anything and that she had

just asked the opinion of a thirteen year old girl. The operator

quickly said thank you and hung up.

I called the number on the caller ID back immediately and got a

recording from Telestar Marketing. I left a message with them and then

proceded to go on line and find the company, with which I also left a

message. I have received an email this morning from the director and

plan to give him the details of what happened also.

So, later Saturday morning I get a letter in the mail from someone I

never met. It was one of those pyramid scheme letters, send a dollar to

every name on the list and this isn't illegal at all. Like Hell it

aint! So, I filed a complaint with the Illinois & Wisconsin (where the

letter was mailed from) Attorney Generals and will be bringing the

letter the the Postmaster where they can decide what appropriate action

should be taken. I had looked up the name of the man who sent the

letter and found the address and name are real, so my husband called the

number I found. In the letter it had stated that the man was a retired

attorney, so my husband asked about his previous position at the law

firm and the man said that he had just copied the letter he got and

passed it along. Then he told my husband that he was going to record

the conversation, wherein my husband hung up. My husband looked at me

and said that the guy sounded like some poor smuck who believed he would

get rich passing the letter along and felt a little sorry for him. NOT

ME!

Sorry for the rant. I just get so sick of stupidity!

Kim

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> You can usually tell if it is a telemarketer because many of those

> auto-answering gimmick are designed to listen for you to do:

Hello?...pause...Hello?

This would be our indicator as well but with the unfortunate choice of

our schools using automated systems now to place calls for reminders, we

never can tell which it is going to be. If I'm home alone, I let the

answering service pick up but when the kids are home there are so many

calls for my daughter, she's taken to picking up the phone first.

>What is so typical is that the politicians pass a law limiting

telemarketing calls, but

> then exempt themselves from it.

What I'd like to know is Who, which polititian paid for this survey.

> I haven't gotten any latter scams lately though. I think the last one

I got

> was one of those " you've won a foreign lottery you didn't even enter "

things.

> That was like 6 years ago or more now.

This letter was a surprise to me too. It even explains how they get

their mailing list names and what company to buy them from. I'd like to

know how my name got on their database. I do know it will cost me five

dollars to have my name removed. What a bunch of malarky! I refuse to

pay to have my name removed as I can easily hit the spam button or toss

the trash.

These scams are so abundant online but you don't see so many comming in

the regular mail anymore. Guess there is a sucker born every day.

> These things thrive on greed. There are enough greedy and silly people

out

> there to fall for these scams and that is why they keep going.

Too bad for the guy who used my name because now his name has been

summitted to the Attorney General of Wis. & Ill as well as the

Postmaster. The fine can be up to $50,000 for this type of fraud.

Kim

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A relative of mine works for a telemarketing firm.

Here's what he had to say about your call:

When you get calls from a marketing firm asking about your views on abortion, they are either being paid by:

1) A pro-choice group.2) Planned Parenthood (or the like).3) A politcal candidate.4) A drug manufacturer. 5) Some private research collective.

Usually when there is an election coming up, these telemarketing firms are conducting surveys on behalf of...DRUG MANUFACTURERS. Their method is to ask your opinion about abortion and then they will ask if you are voting Democrat, or for a particular Democratic politcal candidate. The reason for this is because Democrats are proponents of abortion and they are the ones most likely to keep the RU -486 abortion pill legal.

So under the guise of it being a political or ethical survey, it is really a marketing ploy by drug manufacturers to encourage you to vote Democrat to keep abortion legal so they can sell more RU-486 pills.

It's another way these companies maipulate people like sheep. Lawmakers won't put a stop to it of course because they do not want to cut off a huge source of political donations to their campaigns.

Tom

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For anyone who allows their children to answer the phone, beware.Market research being conducted on behalf of political candidtates will be asking for opinions of touchy subjects.

Saturday morning, 9:30am, the phone rings and my thirteen year olddaughter answers it, says hello, pause, wait........, holds the phoneaway from her ear and looks to me and says I think they need to talk to you. I ask, who is it and she tells me that they were asking for anopinion about abortion! I took the phone and asked the operator whatshe was phoning about. She said that they were conducting a surveyabout abortion. I told her that she should have confirmed the age ofthe person she was speaking to before asking anything and that she hadjust asked the opinion of a thirteen year old girl. The operatorquickly said thank you and hung up.

I called the number on the caller ID back immediately and got arecording from Telestar Marketing. I left a message with them and thenproceded to go on line and find the company, with which I also left amessage. I have received an email this morning from the director andplan to give him the details of what happened also.

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>

>

> A relative of mine works for a telemarketing firm.

>

> Here's what he had to say about your call:

>

> When you get calls from a marketing firm asking about your views on

> abortion, they are either being paid by:

>

> 1) A pro-choice group.

> 2) Planned Parenthood (or the like).

> 3) A politcal candidate.

> 4) A drug manufacturer.

> 5) Some private research collective.

>

> Usually when there is an election coming up, these telemarketing firms

> are conducting surveys on behalf of...DRUG MANUFACTURERS.

The company that responded said it was on behalf of a political source

but it is interesting that it should be underlied by drug manufacturers.

>Their method is to ask your opinion about abortion and then they will

ask if you are

> voting Democrat, or for a particular Democratic politcal candidate.

The

> reason for this is because Democrats are proponents of abortion and

they

> are the ones most likely to keep the RU -486 abortion pill legal.

> So under the guise of it being a political or ethical survey, it is

> really a marketing ploy by drug manufacturers to encourage you to vote

> Democrat to keep abortion legal so they can sell more RU-486 pills.

Again, very interesting. I do not think it is right for government to

legislate abortion. It is aweful that some women and men covort, have

no morals, and do not think twice about the unborn children they may

throw away because that option is available. This being said, I still

believe it must be the woman's choice.

>

> It's another way these companies maipulate people like sheep.

Lawmakers

> won't put a stop to it of course because they do not want to cut off a

> huge source of political donations to their campaigns.

A sick reality.

Kim

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" The company that responded said it was on behalf of a political source

but it is interesting that it should be underlied by drug

manufacturers. "

Forgot to mention that the drug manufacturers turn over the results to

political candidates most likely to support their products so they can

structure their campaigns to appeal to voters.

Tom

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