Re: Wicked

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The Wizard of Oz wasn't written as a children's book. It was actually political and social satire of the mid west.

Here is a link that is pretty close to how I heard it decribed.

http://www.wccusd.k12.ca.us/elcerrito/history/oz.htm

The book has caused many spin offs, some good some dreadful. It you really want to waste a couple of hours of your life, watch "Zardoz" with Connery. That has to be one movie he REALLY regrets making.

>> I haven't read it, but what's it about?> God bless, IrelanHi ,The book is about the life of the Wicked Witch of the West, her familyand Oz before Dorthy of the Wizard of Oz . The book begins withDorthy's arrival but journeys back to the beginning of the Witches life,procedes forward and then ends with Dorthy tale as related by theWitches side of the story. It deviates somewhat from the Wizard of Ozin that some of what takes place in the movie version does not occur inthe book Wicked.The Witch, who is Elphaba (made from the name of the author of theWizard of Oz, BTW) is sorely misunderstood by those who have onlyread/watched the Wizard of Oz. The story delves into the meaning ofevil, politics, religion, and family & social issues. Elphaba not onlystands out because of her green skin but because she is not like thosewho, in social situations, lie and use their status to give themselvesairs. She recognizes the failings of those whom she comes in contact tobut doesn't think any less of them for it, only deals with the "what is"and how it relates to her.She seems to have autistic tendencies and is extremely observant. Shesees through the charades of many and provokes thought and action forthose willing to pursue the truth. Unfortunately, somewhat like ourreality, the goals are not always obtained and somehow thrwarted,backfiring, leaving her more disappointed in the world she lives thanshe was to begin with. It is not a happy tale and unlike the theatricalproduction, of which I have not seen but heard from family members whohave, it does not have a happy ending either. It may be that I'mmissing something that was included in the play because there is asecond book called Son of a Witch, that may explain the differentendings.Kim See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter.

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I have much the same reaction. They put sex in the movies because it is easy to "write" and doesn't take any creative effort. So, they take a junk movie or TV series, throw some in some naked women and maybe some sex and hope that distracts the audience enough not to realize just how dreadful the show is. It is amusing that some "actresses" who were popular when they took their clothes off (Sharon Stone) bombed when they tried to do serious movies with their clothes on. Some don't get it (Madonna) and keep pushing the envelop with offensive material to try to stay in the limelight. Yes, some men do this too.

But if they had decent enough movies in terms of story, plot and characters, you wouldn't need to have nudity and sex. But there isn't a whole lot of talent in Hollywood anymore.

What's the adult content in it? Is it sexual content? If it is, then I probably won't be getting it. If it has a little profanity, I suppose I could live with that as long as it doesn't get to the point where they're using the f word. Speaking of sexual content, I sent an e-mail to people who I was hoping were the producers of that new science fiction series that's supposed to start in a few weeks on Fox Network called Terminator: The Connor Chronicles because when I saw the previews of it on television, I saw that it was rated either PG or TV14 for sex and violence; and nobody's responded. I know I got a little nasty with whoever I sent the e-mail to; but I figured they deserved it because unless I can get copies of each episode where all the sex scenes have been edited out, I won't be able to watch it, which really sucks because I've seen every other Terminator movie that has come out including the third one because it aired on CBS; and I knew that the nude scene I had heard about would be edited out. I pretty much called them perverts and said I didn't like the way they make it a game of adding more and more sex with each new science fiction show that comes out and that's all they know how to write. And I also said that no matter how much I have to pay for edited copies of each episode, I wanted them; but no one's responded to my e-mail. Can someone here help me out by giving me someone I can call or e-mail about edited copies of each episode? Another show I'd like edited copies of on each episode is that new show The Bionic Woman. I called the local tv station about it, and someone suggested I call the network and gave me the phone number, but I procrastinated about calling the network because it was a long distance call that wasn't a 1-800 number and wound up losing it.

God bless, Irelan

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I have much the same reaction. They put sex in the movies because it is easy to "write" and doesn't take any creative effort. So, they take a junk movie or TV series, throw some in some naked women and maybe some sex and hope that distracts the audience enough not to realize just how dreadful the show is. It is amusing that some "actresses" who were popular when they took their clothes off (Sharon Stone) bombed when they tried to do serious movies with their clothes on. Some don't get it (Madonna) and keep pushing the envelop with offensive material to try to stay in the limelight. Yes, some men do this too.

But if they had decent enough movies in terms of story, plot and characters, you wouldn't need to have nudity and sex. But there isn't a whole lot of talent in Hollywood anymore.

What's the adult content in it? Is it sexual content? If it is, then I probably won't be getting it. If it has a little profanity, I suppose I could live with that as long as it doesn't get to the point where they're using the f word. Speaking of sexual content, I sent an e-mail to people who I was hoping were the producers of that new science fiction series that's supposed to start in a few weeks on Fox Network called Terminator: The Connor Chronicles because when I saw the previews of it on television, I saw that it was rated either PG or TV14 for sex and violence; and nobody's responded. I know I got a little nasty with whoever I sent the e-mail to; but I figured they deserved it because unless I can get copies of each episode where all the sex scenes have been edited out, I won't be able to watch it, which really sucks because I've seen every other Terminator movie that has come out including the third one because it aired on CBS; and I knew that the nude scene I had heard about would be edited out. I pretty much called them perverts and said I didn't like the way they make it a game of adding more and more sex with each new science fiction show that comes out and that's all they know how to write. And I also said that no matter how much I have to pay for edited copies of each episode, I wanted them; but no one's responded to my e-mail. Can someone here help me out by giving me someone I can call or e-mail about edited copies of each episode? Another show I'd like edited copies of on each episode is that new show The Bionic Woman. I called the local tv station about it, and someone suggested I call the network and gave me the phone number, but I procrastinated about calling the network because it was a long distance call that wasn't a 1-800 number and wound up losing it.

God bless, Irelan

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I haven't read it, but what's it about?God bless, Irelan

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I haven't read it, but what's it about?God bless, Irelan

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>

> I haven't read it, but what's it about?

> God bless, Irelan

Hi ,

The book is about the life of the Wicked Witch of the West, her family

and Oz before Dorthy of the Wizard of Oz . The book begins with

Dorthy's arrival but journeys back to the beginning of the Witches life,

procedes forward and then ends with Dorthy tale as related by the

Witches side of the story. It deviates somewhat from the Wizard of Oz

in that some of what takes place in the movie version does not occur in

the book Wicked.

The Witch, who is Elphaba (made from the name of the author of the

Wizard of Oz, BTW) is sorely misunderstood by those who have only

read/watched the Wizard of Oz. The story delves into the meaning of

evil, politics, religion, and family & social issues. Elphaba not only

stands out because of her green skin but because she is not like those

who, in social situations, lie and use their status to give themselves

airs. She recognizes the failings of those whom she comes in contact to

but doesn't think any less of them for it, only deals with the " what is "

and how it relates to her.

She seems to have autistic tendencies and is extremely observant. She

sees through the charades of many and provokes thought and action for

those willing to pursue the truth. Unfortunately, somewhat like our

reality, the goals are not always obtained and somehow thrwarted,

backfiring, leaving her more disappointed in the world she lives than

she was to begin with. It is not a happy tale and unlike the theatrical

production, of which I have not seen but heard from family members who

have, it does not have a happy ending either. It may be that I'm

missing something that was included in the play because there is a

second book called Son of a Witch, that may explain the different

endings.

Kim

[Guest guest]

>

> I haven't read it, but what's it about?

> God bless, Irelan

Hi ,

The book is about the life of the Wicked Witch of the West, her family

and Oz before Dorthy of the Wizard of Oz . The book begins with

Dorthy's arrival but journeys back to the beginning of the Witches life,

procedes forward and then ends with Dorthy tale as related by the

Witches side of the story. It deviates somewhat from the Wizard of Oz

in that some of what takes place in the movie version does not occur in

the book Wicked.

The Witch, who is Elphaba (made from the name of the author of the

Wizard of Oz, BTW) is sorely misunderstood by those who have only

read/watched the Wizard of Oz. The story delves into the meaning of

evil, politics, religion, and family & social issues. Elphaba not only

stands out because of her green skin but because she is not like those

who, in social situations, lie and use their status to give themselves

airs. She recognizes the failings of those whom she comes in contact to

but doesn't think any less of them for it, only deals with the " what is "

and how it relates to her.

She seems to have autistic tendencies and is extremely observant. She

sees through the charades of many and provokes thought and action for

those willing to pursue the truth. Unfortunately, somewhat like our

reality, the goals are not always obtained and somehow thrwarted,

backfiring, leaving her more disappointed in the world she lives than

she was to begin with. It is not a happy tale and unlike the theatrical

production, of which I have not seen but heard from family members who

have, it does not have a happy ending either. It may be that I'm

missing something that was included in the play because there is a

second book called Son of a Witch, that may explain the different

endings.

Kim

[Guest guest]

Is it written by L. Baum? I'm wanting to get more Oz books written by him. I'd prefer ones that have Dorothy, since she's the character I'm most familiar with. I haven't read The Wizard of Oz because I've seen the movie enough times that I almost memorized, but I have read another one by him. I think it's called The Road to Oz. I'm just interested in getting sequels or prequels. God bless, Irelan

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Is it written by L. Baum? I'm wanting to get more Oz books written by him. I'd prefer ones that have Dorothy, since she's the character I'm most familiar with. I haven't read The Wizard of Oz because I've seen the movie enough times that I almost memorized, but I have read another one by him. I think it's called The Road to Oz. I'm just interested in getting sequels or prequels. God bless, Irelan

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>

> Is it written by L. Baum? I'm wanting to get more Oz books

written by him. I'd prefer ones that have Dorothy, since she's the

character I'm most familiar with. I haven't read The Wizard of Oz

because I've seen the movie enough times that I almost memorized, but I

have read another one by him. I think it's called The Road to Oz. I'm

just interested in getting sequels or prequels.

> God bless, Irelan

No, the book's author is Maguire. You could call it a prequel

to the Wizard of Oz but you may be disappointed with the way in which

some of the characters are not what they seemed to be in his version of

the tale. It would seem to me, the difference between looking through

the world with NT eyes and then seeing it through the eyes of an Aspie.

Kim

[Guest guest]

>

> Is it written by L. Baum? I'm wanting to get more Oz books

written by him. I'd prefer ones that have Dorothy, since she's the

character I'm most familiar with. I haven't read The Wizard of Oz

because I've seen the movie enough times that I almost memorized, but I

have read another one by him. I think it's called The Road to Oz. I'm

just interested in getting sequels or prequels.

> God bless, Irelan

No, the book's author is Maguire. You could call it a prequel

to the Wizard of Oz but you may be disappointed with the way in which

some of the characters are not what they seemed to be in his version of

the tale. It would seem to me, the difference between looking through

the world with NT eyes and then seeing it through the eyes of an Aspie.

Kim

[Guest guest]

What's NT stand for? I wish they'd air the other two sequels to The Wizard of Oz as much as they did the original movie The Wizard of Oz. I'd very much like to see Return to Oz and Journey Back to Oz, which is a cartoon sequel to The Wizard of Oz and stars Frances Gumm's (That's Judy Garland's real name) daughter as Dorothy. Return to Oz stars Faraiza Baulk as Dorothy. How come they don't show those two movies over and over like they did The Wizard of Oz for so many years? God bless, Irelan

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What's NT stand for? I wish they'd air the other two sequels to The Wizard of Oz as much as they did the original movie The Wizard of Oz. I'd very much like to see Return to Oz and Journey Back to Oz, which is a cartoon sequel to The Wizard of Oz and stars Frances Gumm's (That's Judy Garland's real name) daughter as Dorothy. Return to Oz stars Faraiza Baulk as Dorothy. How come they don't show those two movies over and over like they did The Wizard of Oz for so many years? God bless, Irelan

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You've piqued my interest now :-) I may have to try and get a copy of

this book. I'm going into town Thursday and I like going into book

shops :-) I'll see if I can get a copy then.

> >

> > Is it written by L. Baum? I'm wanting to get more Oz books

> written by him. I'd prefer ones that have Dorothy, since she's the

> character I'm most familiar with. I haven't read The Wizard of Oz

> because I've seen the movie enough times that I almost memorized,

but I

> have read another one by him. I think it's called The Road to Oz.

I'm

> just interested in getting sequels or prequels.

> > God bless, Irelan

>

>

> No, the book's author is Maguire. You could call it a

prequel

> to the Wizard of Oz but you may be disappointed with the way in

which

> some of the characters are not what they seemed to be in his

version of

> the tale. It would seem to me, the difference between looking

through

> the world with NT eyes and then seeing it through the eyes of an

Aspie.

>

> Kim

>

[Guest guest]

You've piqued my interest now :-) I may have to try and get a copy of

this book. I'm going into town Thursday and I like going into book

shops :-) I'll see if I can get a copy then.

> >

> > Is it written by L. Baum? I'm wanting to get more Oz books

> written by him. I'd prefer ones that have Dorothy, since she's the

> character I'm most familiar with. I haven't read The Wizard of Oz

> because I've seen the movie enough times that I almost memorized,

but I

> have read another one by him. I think it's called The Road to Oz.

I'm

> just interested in getting sequels or prequels.

> > God bless, Irelan

>

>

> No, the book's author is Maguire. You could call it a

prequel

> to the Wizard of Oz but you may be disappointed with the way in

which

> some of the characters are not what they seemed to be in his

version of

> the tale. It would seem to me, the difference between looking

through

> the world with NT eyes and then seeing it through the eyes of an

Aspie.

>

> Kim

>

[Guest guest]

>

> What's NT stand for? I wish they'd air the other two sequels to The

Wizard of Oz as much as they did the original movie The Wizard of Oz.

I'd very much like to see Return to Oz and Journey Back to Oz, which is

a cartoon sequel to The Wizard of Oz and stars Frances Gumm's (That's

Judy Garland's real name) daughter as Dorothy. Return to Oz stars

Faraiza Baulk as Dorothy. How come they don't show those two movies over

and over like they did The Wizard of Oz for so many years?

> God bless, Irelan

NeuroTypical. Oh, if the book Wicked had a rating, it would be R. It

has very adult content. It was a gift given to me by my oldest son and

my thirteen year old daughter would like to read it but I think she

isn't old enough/ mature enough for some of the content.

I myself was not a huge fan of the Wizard of Oz and have never read or

saw any of the others you mention.

Kim

[Guest guest]

>

> What's NT stand for? I wish they'd air the other two sequels to The

Wizard of Oz as much as they did the original movie The Wizard of Oz.

I'd very much like to see Return to Oz and Journey Back to Oz, which is

a cartoon sequel to The Wizard of Oz and stars Frances Gumm's (That's

Judy Garland's real name) daughter as Dorothy. Return to Oz stars

Faraiza Baulk as Dorothy. How come they don't show those two movies over

and over like they did The Wizard of Oz for so many years?

> God bless, Irelan

NeuroTypical. Oh, if the book Wicked had a rating, it would be R. It

has very adult content. It was a gift given to me by my oldest son and

my thirteen year old daughter would like to read it but I think she

isn't old enough/ mature enough for some of the content.

I myself was not a huge fan of the Wizard of Oz and have never read or

saw any of the others you mention.

Kim

[Guest guest]

What's the adult content in it? Is it sexual content? If it is, then I probably won't be getting it. If it has a little profanity, I suppose I could live with that as long as it doesn't get to the point where they're using the f word. Speaking of sexual content, I sent an e-mail to people who I was hoping were the producers of that new science fiction series that's supposed to start in a few weeks on Fox Network called Terminator: The Connor Chronicles because when I saw the previews of it on television, I saw that it was rated either PG or TV14 for sex and violence; and nobody's responded. I know I got a little nasty with whoever I sent the e-mail to; but I figured they deserved it because unless I can get copies of each episode where all the sex scenes have been edited out, I won't be able to watch it, which really sucks because I've seen every other Terminator movie that has come out including the third one because it aired on

CBS; and I knew that the nude scene I had heard about would be edited out. I pretty much called them perverts and said I didn't like the way they make it a game of adding more and more sex with each new science fiction show that comes out and that's all they know how to write. And I also said that no matter how much I have to pay for edited copies of each episode, I wanted them; but no one's responded to my e-mail. Can someone here help me out by giving me someone I can call or e-mail about edited copies of each episode? Another show I'd like edited copies of on each episode is that new show The Bionic Woman. I called the local tv station about it, and someone suggested I call the network and gave me the phone number, but I procrastinated about calling the network because it was a long distance call that wasn't a 1-800 number and wound up losing it. God bless, Irelan

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Unfortunately, that still doesn't help me with getting edited copies of both The Bionic Woman and Terminator: The Connor Chronicles. They didn't do that with both original bionic television shows, The Bionic Woman with Wagner and The Six Million Dollar Man with Harvey Lee Yeary II; and there's no reason why they can't give us the same moral quality that they gave us with the new series The Bionic Woman. I'd like to watch it and see if they have the sound effects that I remember very well from the original shows and see if they'll introduce a bionic German shepherd like one of the two original shows did. God bless, Irelan

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Unfortunately, that still doesn't help me with getting edited copies of both The Bionic Woman and Terminator: The Connor Chronicles. They didn't do that with both original bionic television shows, The Bionic Woman with Wagner and The Six Million Dollar Man with Harvey Lee Yeary II; and there's no reason why they can't give us the same moral quality that they gave us with the new series The Bionic Woman. I'd like to watch it and see if they have the sound effects that I remember very well from the original shows and see if they'll introduce a bionic German shepherd like one of the two original shows did. God bless, Irelan

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>

> What's the adult content in it? Is it sexual content? If it is, then I

probably won't be getting it.

Yes, it does have sexual content that lends to the lewd and immoral

actions of society as well as the behavior of Elphaba, who doesn't

prescribe to the religous sects or their views of good and evil.

Kim

[Guest guest]

In that case, I'll pass on the book and just stick to books written by L. Baum or other writers who put out more wholesome Oz books. God bless, Irelan

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In that case, I'll pass on the book and just stick to books written by L. Baum or other writers who put out more wholesome Oz books. God bless, Irelan

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" The Witch, who is Elphaba (made from the name of the author of the

Wizard of Oz,... "

The author of Wizard of Oz is L. Baum, I believe. How does one

get Elphaba from that? Possibly L [El] F(rank)[pha] Baum [ba]???

Tom

Administrator

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" Return to Oz stars Faraiza Baulk as Dorothy. How come they don't

show those two movies over and over like they did The Wizard of Oz

for so many years? "

They probably were not well liked.

Incidentally, the familiar version of Wizard of Oz that we see on our

TV screens so often (with Judy Garland) was NOT the first Wizard of

Oz movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wonderful_Wizard_of_Oz

" The earliest " Oz " film series were produced by Baum in 1908 and 1914

and twice featured the young silent film actress Mildred .

Another series that Baum had nothing to do with, aside from a

contractual agreement, appeared in 1910, which may have featured Bebe

s as Dorothy. Larry Semon, in collaboration with Joslyn

Baum, created a rather well known but unsuccessful version in 1925.

The most famous adaptation is the 1939 film, The Wizard of Oz,

featuring Judy Garland as Dorothy. "

These are all the Oz books that were written by Baum:

The Wonderful Wizard of Oz

The Marvelous Land of Oz

Ozma of Oz

Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz

The Road to Oz

The Emerald City of Oz

The Patchwork Girl of Oz

Tik-Tok of Oz

The Scarecrow of Oz

Rinkitink in Oz

The Lost Princess of Oz

The Tin Woodman of Oz

The Magic of Oz

Glinda of Oz

I have the Tin Woodman of Oz and don't particularly care for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oz_Books

" The Tin Woodman, Nick Chopper, is unexpectedly reunited with his

Munchkin sweetheart Nimmie Amee from the days when he was flesh and

blood. Along the way, Nick discovers a fellow tin man, Captain Fyter,

as well as a enstein-like creature, Chopfyt made from their

combined parts by the tinsmith, Ku-Klip. "

There are other 26 other Oz books, but they are not written by Baum.

They are written by other authors and are not good at all, so I am

told. Baum's series is in the public domain, which means, unless I am

mistaken, that other authors could continue the series without his or

his family's permission and take them in directions Baum would not

have wanted them to go.

" As the earlier works have fallen out of copyright into the public

domain (including all of L. Baum's titles), numerous other

books have been written in the series by many authors and publishers,

some of whom continue to publish new works today. "

Tom

Administrator