Copy and Paste Defences WAS: Trust pills anyone?

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Good idea. It is really a semantic issue. I can see why "aberrant" was chosen and finding an alternative isn't easy. Different can work, but it is so overused it is has no value. There are others, but making a list along those lines would be pointless too.

In a message dated 1/18/2008 2:14:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

Okay, let's quit the "abberant" discussion everyone.TomAdministratorI hope your moods get better. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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Nick copy and pasted from Wikipedia: " Social attitudes to

creativity Although the benefits of creativity to society as a whole

have been noted,[52] ... <snip> ... High dopamine levels increase

general arousal and goal directed behaviors and reduce latent

inhibition, and all three effects increase the drive to generate

ideas.[30] "

If I wanted WIKIPEDIA's 'group effort' mish mash explanation about

creativity, I would have looked it up on WIKIPEDIA.

Nick you have taken the lazy path to defend your claim that

creativity is aberrant and there is no value in your copy and paste

defence since there is very little " NICK " in the equation.

It also does not indicate whether you actually understand what

creativity is or what the Reticular Activating System is. I would

venture to guess you do not understand either very well otherwise you

would not have copy and pasted your entire defence from WIKIPEDIA.

Nick added: " ... <snip> ... So, while the reticular activating

system is good for autonomic arousal and brainwaves the prefrontal

cortex and " temporal lobe aberrations " are the brain regions much

more specifically, directly, linked to creativity ... <snip> ... "

You have only copy and pasted from WIKIPEDIA and therefore your

understanding of the Reticular Activating System and how it relates

to creativity is specious [definition of specious: superficially

attractive but actually of no real value] at best.

Raven

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I hope your moods get better. I don't generally like attacking members of forums online because I got no satisfaction from arguing and bullying other people and showing them their mistakes and belittling them. So, I hope you understand what bullying means so that you don't get caught up in practicing it on FAM members. It's a shame that so many people don't realize that attacking a member based on personal bias and unresolved, unacknowledged conflicts toward him is actually one of the definitions of bullying. It's sad to see how one person can continually respond towards their favorite victim in a negative, overly critical fashion and not realize it. I think you like the power of being an administrator. Yes, you can kick someone out any old time that you feel like it and that must give you a sense of power. With power comes great responsibility. I think it's important that everyone here feels safe from over-reactive people. I think that the

Reticular activating system is difficult to pinpoint definition-wise on the internet. I think it's foolish to put other peoples' writing into a generalized category of feeble-mindedness. I was judged to be stupid in many areas involving common sense but, alas I do have my talents in various fields. I explained about how glutamate works in the brain in a previous message. Those were my words. I've done the research and I know. There is no denying the conglomeration of facts from medical journals. The tricky part is finding solutions. That's where the aberrant path comes into play. Everyone has to find a unique solution. It's aberrant in that it does not always follow the conventional dogma of the day. First you have to sort through the conventional dogma to get to the solutions. That's googling. No one has a patent on truth and I understand this. I simply give articles and/or personal insight into a message that I give. It's each person's individual freedom to

follow the trail or to not follow it and find their solution through another route. It's tyrrany when for example the government burns or outlaws certain intellectual books that don't agree with the conventional powers that be. Hitler did this. People should realize that in order for information to have any effect it has to inspire the reader to some sort of action that generates knowledge. When people perpetuate a one-dimensional, cookie-cutter explanation for how the brain works there is less inclination to be interested in learning about it. Herein lies the will to move. What would you rather do, criticize and blame people for not willing themselves to reach out and help people with autism or inspire them to help themselves and others on the autistic spectrum? Helping doesn't always imply that the only way to do it is get semi-famous and with that prestige start a huge public project. We all do our part everyday in every way possible. That is my hope anyway. I

still have faith that the members here like me want to help the world and do their best in whatever creative ways they can manage even if it isn't on a grand scale. ravenmagic2003 wrote: Nick copy and pasted from Wikipedia: "Social attitudes to creativity Although the benefits of creativity to society as a whole have been noted,[52] ... <snip> ... High dopamine levels increase general arousal and goal directed behaviors and reduce latent inhibition, and all three effects increase the drive to

generate ideas.[30]"If I wanted WIKIPEDIA's 'group effort' mish mash explanation about creativity, I would have looked it up on WIKIPEDIA.Nick you have taken the lazy path to defend your claim that creativity is aberrant and there is no value in your copy and paste defence since there is very little "NICK" in the equation.It also does not indicate whether you actually understand what creativity is or what the Reticular Activating System is. I would venture to guess you do not understand either very well otherwise you would not have copy and pasted your entire defence from WIKIPEDIA.Nick added: " ... <snip> ... So, while the reticular activating system is good for autonomic arousal and brainwaves the prefrontal cortex and "temporal lobe aberrations" are the brain regions much more specifically, directly, linked to creativity ... <snip> ... "You have only copy and pasted from

WIKIPEDIA and therefore your understanding of the Reticular Activating System and how it relates to creativity is specious [definition of specious: superficially attractive but actually of no real value] at best.RavenCo-Administrator

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Okay, let's quit the " abberant " discussion everyone.

Tom

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I hope your moods get better.

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Where's the rest of what I wrote Tom? It looks like you cut and pasted what you wanted out of my writing. That doesn't seem right. environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote: Okay, let's quit the "abberant" discussion everyone.TomAdministratorI hope your moods get better.

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" Where's the rest of what I wrote Tom? It looks like you cut and pasted

what you wanted out of my writing. That doesn't seem right. "

I excised the first line so people would know to what post I was

referring. Don't take offense Nick.

Tom

Administrator

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Nick wrote: " I hope your moods get better. I don't generally like

attacking members of forums online because I got no satisfaction from

arguing and bullying other people and showing them their mistakes and

belittling them ... <snip> ... "

My mood is fine. You are reading emotions into what I write that are

not there at the time of writing. You do, however, like to

circumvent facts when you cannot explain and support your position in

a discussion. For me to point out that you have misused a word

thereby changing entirely the meaning and creating two entirely

different discussions within the parameters of the same discussion

(which causes confusion) is not bullying. That you think it is

bullying says more about you than about anyone or anything else, Nick.

Nick wrote: " ... <snip> ... So, I hope you understand what bullying

means so that you don't get caught up in practicing it on FAM

members. It's a shame that so many people don't realize that

attacking a member based on personal bias and unresolved,

unacknowledged conflicts toward him is actually one of the

definitions of bullying ... <snip> ... "

First off, i was addressing your misuse of a word thereby muddying

the discussion at hand and secondly, I pointed out that 'copying and

pasting' from Wikipedia without personal commentary providing

additional facts is not seen by most as an inappropriate way to

defend your position in a discussion. That is not bullying.

I hope you don't get caught up in practicing victimhood while

crying " bully " for the sake of crying wolf and using smoke and

mirrors to hide the bare bones reality of a discussion.

Nick wrote: " ... <snip> ... It's sad to see how one person can

continually respond towards their favorite victim in a negative,

overly critical fashion and not realize it ... <snip> ... "

When I was a member here, the same as you (you joined quite a while

after I did), you attacked me so relentlessly that I quit this forum

for a number of months due to your bullying and abuse.

I returned at the behest of other members. I did not, however,

return and try to return the abuse to which you subjected me. I do

not appreciate your false allegation that you are anyone's victim

never mind my 'favorite victim.'

Nick wrote: " ... <snip> ... I think you like the power of being an

administrator. Yes, you can kick someone out any old time that you

feel like it and that must give you a sense of power. With power

comes great responsibility ... <snip> ... "

For someone who has been a member at FAM for as long as you have,

it's amazing that you think that what you have described aptly

represents how the Administrators in this forum work.

When someone is removed from the forum -- which rarely happens -- it

is only after much discussion and consideration and never because ONE

Administrator decides to get rid of someone out of a personal bias.

For you to make allegations to the contrary only speaks to how little

you respect this forum and those who volunteer their time as

Administrators here.

Raven

Co-Administrator

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Tom wrote: " Okay, let's quit the " abberant " discussion everyone. "

Done.

Raven

Co-Administrator

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Tom wrote: " Okay, let's quit the " abberant " discussion everyone. "

responded: " Good idea. It is really a semantic issue. I can

see why " aberrant " was chosen and finding an alternative isn't easy.

Different can work, but it is so overused it is has no value. There are

others, but making a list along those lines would be pointless too. "

I agree it would be pointless.

Raven

Co-Administrator