Zinc and Appetite - DAN conference notes

April 8, 2008

How much zinc are you giving. The dose for ASD kids is

generally their body weight plus and add'l 20 mgs per

day. So if you have a 50 pound kid he would need 50

mgs plus 20 mgs or 70 mgs daily). We use zinc

monomethinonine and it works well.

--- Vicky Long wrote:

> We have been using liquid zinc supplements (2x the

> RDA) and zinc

> monomethione for about 10 months. I'm completely

> bummed b/c we just

> had a blood panel done again and his zinc levels are

> still off the

> charts low and copper very elevated. It seems like

> he's having

> absorption issues. I've started giving the liquid

> zinc first thing in

> the a.m. about 30 minutes before breakfast and again

> at night just

> before bed. Anyone have others suggestions for

> addressing the

> absorption problem?? We have a call scheduled with

> his DAN doc on

> Wednesday...

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It was also mentioned by a speaker at

> DAN that

> > > supplementing with

> > > > > zinc

> > > > > > can make big improvements in both

> appetite and texture

> > > > sensitivities.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1 mg/lb of body weight + 20 was in my

> notes from her

> > > presentation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Zinc picolinate was her recommended

> form.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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Some Dr's only reccomend 40 mg/mo more than 40 mg zinc a day, at certain levels

and in

some kids ZINC is toxic. You should def. check w/ your Dan DR on dosage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It was also mentioned by a speaker at

> > DAN that

> > > > supplementing with

> > > > > > zinc

> > > > > > > can make big improvements in both

> > appetite and texture

> > > > > sensitivities.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1 mg/lb of body weight + 20 was in my

> > notes from her

> > > > presentation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Zinc picolinate was her recommended

> > form.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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April 8, 2008

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April 8, 2008

- Have you seen improvements from it that you are sure of? What kind?

Re: Re: Zinc and Appetite - DAN conference notes

How much zinc are you giving. The dose for ASD kids isgenerally their body weight plus and add'l 20 mgs perday. So if you have a 50 pound kid he would need 50mgs plus 20 mgs or 70 mgs daily). We use zincmonomethinonine and it works well.--- Vicky Long <vicky_longsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:> We have been using liquid zinc supplements (2x the> RDA) and zinc > monomethione for about 10 months. I'm completely> bummed b/c we just > had a blood panel done again and his zinc levels are> still off the > charts low and copper very elevated. It seems like> he's having > absorption issues. I've started giving the liquid> zinc first thing in > the a.m. about 30 minutes before breakfast and again> at night just > before bed. Anyone have others suggestions for> addressing the > absorption problem?? We have a call scheduled with> his DAN doc on > Wednesday...> > > > > > >> > > > > > It was also mentioned by a speaker at> DAN that > > > supplementing with > > > > > zinc > > > > > > can make big improvements in both> appetite and texture > > > > sensitivities.> > > > > > > > > > > > 1 mg/lb of body weight + 20 was in my> notes from her > > > presentation.> > > > > > > > > > > > Zinc picolinate was her recommended> form.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>----------------------------------------------------------> > > ----------> > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > > Checked by AVG. > > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database:> 269.22.5/1357 - Release > > Date: > > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>----------------------------------------------------------> > ----------> > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > Checked by AVG. > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database:> 269.22.5/1357 - Release > Date: > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>----------------------------------------------------------> ----------> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357> - Release Date: > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM> >> > > __________________________________________________________You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com

April 8, 2008

Maybe try a different form of zinc. Vicky Long wrote: We have been using liquid zinc supplements (2x the RDA) and zinc monomethione for about 10 months. I'm completely bummed b/c we just had a blood panel done again and his zinc levels are still off the charts low and copper very elevated. It seems like he's having absorption issues. I've started giving the liquid zinc first thing in the a.m. about 30 minutes before breakfast and again at night just before bed. Anyone have others

suggestions for addressing the absorption problem?? We have a call scheduled with his DAN doc on Wednesday...> > > > >> > > > > It was also mentioned by a speaker at DAN that > > supplementing with > > > > zinc > > > > > can make big improvements in both appetite and texture > > > sensitivities.> > > > > > > > > > 1 mg/lb of body weight + 20 was in my notes from her > > presentation.> > > > > > > > > > Zinc picolinate was her recommended

form.> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> > ----------> > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > Checked by AVG. > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 - Release > Date: > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> ----------> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database:

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April 8, 2008

We are having the same problem with my son. Low zinc levels even with

zinc supps. So we just changed to a different kind hoping it will

help. How will I know if its working? Will I have to get more blood

tests to find out if its working and if so how long should I wait?---

In mb12 valtrex , " diatplay " wrote:

>

> I would put in a call to the Pfeiffer Treatment Center and ask for

a

> phone consult with Dr. telling them that you are considering

> becoming a patient at one of their outreach clinics...since the

zinc

> copper imbalance is their SPECIALTY they could probably tell you

why

> your protocol is failing, and you may decide that they are where

you

> need to go next - and not the DAN route, straight fwd, after all.

>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It was also mentioned by a speaker at DAN that

> > > > supplementing with

> > > > > > zinc

> > > > > > > can make big improvements in both appetite and

texture

> > > > > sensitivities.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1 mg/lb of body weight + 20 was in my notes from her

> > > > presentation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Zinc picolinate was her recommended form.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > > ----------

> > > > >

> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > > Checked by AVG.

> > > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 -

Release

> > > Date:

> > > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > ----------

> > > >

> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > Checked by AVG.

> > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 - Release

> > Date:

> > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM

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April 8, 2008

Are you giving on an empty stomach, before bed, and away from calcium? Have you tried a cream form of zinc? Some have been able to raise zinc levels when adding the cream form. I read this somewhere on the www.ourkidsasd.com website under their zinc products listing.

Re: Zinc and Appetite - DAN conference notes

We are having the same problem with my son. Low zinc levels even with zinc supps. So we just changed to a different kind hoping it will help. How will I know if its working? Will I have to get more blood tests to find out if its working and if so how long should I wait?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > It was also mentioned by a speaker at DAN that > > > > supplementing with > > > > > > zinc > > > > > > > can make big improvements in both appetite and texture > > > > > sensitivities.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 mg/lb of body weight + 20 was in my notes from her > > > > presentation.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zinc picolinate was her recommended form.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> > > > ----------> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > > > Checked by AVG. > > > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 - Release > > > Date: > > > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> > > ----------> > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > > Checked by AVG. > > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 - Release > > Date: > > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------> --> > ----------> > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > Checked by AVG. > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 - Release > Date: > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM> > >> >>

April 8, 2008

Yes I got the zinc cream and also another kind to take orally but how

will I know if its working? Do I have to do blood tests again if so

how long would I wait?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It was also mentioned by a speaker at DAN that

> > > > > supplementing with

> > > > > > > zinc

> > > > > > > > can make big improvements in both appetite and

> texture

> > > > > > sensitivities.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1 mg/lb of body weight + 20 was in my notes from

her

> > > > > presentation.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Zinc picolinate was her recommended form.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------

--

> > > > > ----------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > > > Checked by AVG.

> > > > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 -

> Release

> > > > Date:

> > > > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

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> > > > > Checked by AVG.

> > > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 -

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> > > Date:

> > > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

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April 8, 2008

i dont think i would give zinc when going to bed....try it yourself

before going to bed it will give you an upset stomach

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It was also mentioned by a speaker at DAN that

> > > > > > supplementing with

> > > > > > > > zinc

> > > > > > > > > can make big improvements in both appetite and

> > texture

> > > > > > > sensitivities.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1 mg/lb of body weight + 20 was in my notes from

> her

> > > > > > presentation.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Zinc picolinate was her recommended form.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------

--

> --

> > > > > > ----------

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > > > > Checked by AVG.

> > > > > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 -

> > Release

> > > > > Date:

> > > > > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------

--

> > > > > ----------

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > > > Checked by AVG.

> > > > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 -

> Release

> > > > Date:

> > > > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

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> > > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1357 -

Release

> > > Date:

> > > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 9, 2008

I can not say I have seena ny improvements from upping

his zinc. Our son does have high copper as well. Since

we are doing IV chealation we need to keep his

minerals up. By supplementing with lots of zinc and

the other minerals we can continue the chelation which

has helped him greatly.

--- Handley wrote:

> - Have you seen improvements from it that you

> are sure of? What kind?

>

> Re: Re: Zinc and Appetite -

> DAN conference notes

>

> How much zinc are you giving. The dose for ASD

> kids is

> generally their body weight plus and add'l 20 mgs

> per

> day. So if you have a 50 pound kid he would need

> 50

> mgs plus 20 mgs or 70 mgs daily). We use zinc

> monomethinonine and it works well.

>

> --- Vicky Long wrote:

>

> > We have been using liquid zinc supplements (2x

> the

> > RDA) and zinc

> > monomethione for about 10 months. I'm completely

> > bummed b/c we just

> > had a blood panel done again and his zinc levels

> are

> > still off the

> > charts low and copper very elevated. It seems

> like

> > he's having

> > absorption issues. I've started giving the

> liquid

> > zinc first thing in

> > the a.m. about 30 minutes before breakfast and

> again

> > at night just

> > before bed. Anyone have others suggestions for

> > addressing the

> > absorption problem?? We have a call scheduled

> with

> > his DAN doc on

> > Wednesday...

> >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It was also mentioned by a speaker at

> > DAN that

> > > > supplementing with

> > > > > > zinc

> > > > > > > can make big improvements in both

> > appetite and texture

> > > > > sensitivities.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1 mg/lb of body weight + 20 was in my

> > notes from her

> > > > presentation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Zinc picolinate was her recommended

> > form.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> >

>

----------------------------------------------------------

> > > > ----------

> > > > >

> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > > Checked by AVG.

> > > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database:

> > 269.22.5/1357 - Release

> > > Date:

> > > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM

> > > > >

> > > >

> >

>

----------------------------------------------------------

> > > ----------

> > > >

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> > > > Checked by AVG.

> > > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database:

> > 269.22.5/1357 - Release

> > Date:

> > > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

----------------------------------------------------------

> > ----------

> > >

> > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > Checked by AVG.

> > > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database:

> 269.22.5/1357

> > - Release Date:

> > 4/3/2008 10:48 AM

> > >

> >

>

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April 12, 2008

I have to agree with this. I'd been giving my

son 40 mg of liquid zinc per day for quite

awhile. Recently, he started throwing up about

20 min after taking his supplements.

I pulled everything, and started adding things

back one at a time. A few days in, I remembered

that I could take mega-doses of zinc when coming

down with something, but after awhile, the zinc

would make me naseous. So, it's definately up to

what the body needs, not a one size fits all.

Kim

--- Shanon wrote:

> Some Dr's only reccomend 40 mg/mo more than 40

> mg zinc a day, at certain levels and in

> some kids ZINC is toxic. You should def. check

> w/ your Dan DR on dosage.

> > > > > > Re. Zinc - did they specify what

> type -

> > > monmethionine,

> > > > > picolinate, etc???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Re. carnitine - this was absolutely

> true for

> > > my son. We saw

> > > > > improvements in overall trunk and leg

> tone as

> > > well as minor

> > > fine

> > > > > motor improvements. I'm starting my

> youngest

> > > on it next week.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for the info!!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - Dana

> > > > > > Re: Zinc an

> Appetite

> > > - DAN conference

> > > > > notes

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You're welcome. Happy to share

> anything that

> > > can help! I

> > > > > forgot to

> > > > > > mention... zinc is best given on an

> empty

> > > stomach.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In mb12 valtrex ,

> > > " nonie8887 " <donannonie@>

>

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