Re: treating bacterial overgrowth

June 15, 2008

Vancomycin or flagyl are the rx's I've heard of most often for treating bacteria. For naturals, Berberine Complex or straight goldenseal has worked well for us. Any antibacterial can cause a nasty die-off and/or negative reaction so be on the look out for anything unusual and be prepared w/activated charcoal. Loads of carbs are not good if he has yeast and/or bad bacteria. Try harder to get in more protein and hide veggies in things like burgers, chicken salad, liquefy in juice, wherever. Try to cut back on the starchy carbs as they are only going to exacerbate the situation.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of vellamarySent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:38 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: treating bacterial overgrowth

Hello allJust want to thank all of you for your help and support. I am new to this and am kind of fumbling my way through with a "DAN/naturopath"? who gives some guidance but not enough! It is all of you who are really getting me through. Question...Urine test revealed my son is riddled with bacteria. No yeast issues, is it ok to treat with antibiotics and probiotics as my DAN is suggesting? Any antibiotics which would be most effective? I asked for Vancocymin and my GP looked at me like I was crazy. Is this treatment sufficient for keeping bacteria at bay? What would stop it from returning and what caused it in the first place?His diet consists of lots of carbs (wholegrain bread,crackers, gluten free pasta, heaps!!!!! of all kinds of fruit, no vegies, minimal fish and meat and rice milk.Thanks in advance for your guidance and support.

June 15, 2008

It really depends on the type of bacteria. Clostridia is caused by

antibiotics and only a few will kill it. Vancomycin is of the

antibiotics that will kill clostridia, it is often referred to as the

drug of last resort because it is often given when all other

antibiotics fail.

For clostridia, my DAN first gave my daughter flagyl, but she is

unable to swallow pills and she could not handle the horrible taste so

she prescribed vancomycin. If you have a copy of her labs, start

googling the types of bacteria you see and you will find answers to

what will kill it.

God bless,

http://wakingsophie.com

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> Hello all

> Just want to thank all of you for your help and support. I am new to

> this and am kind of fumbling my way through with a " DAN/naturopath " ?

> who gives some guidance but not enough! It is all of you who are

> really getting me through. Question...Urine test revealed my son is

> riddled with bacteria. No yeast issues, is it ok to treat with

> antibiotics and probiotics as my DAN is suggesting? Any antibiotics

> which would be most effective? I asked for Vancocymin and my GP

> looked at me like I was crazy. Is this treatment sufficient for

> keeping bacteria at bay? What would stop it from returning and what

> caused it in the first place?

> His diet consists of lots of carbs (wholegrain bread,crackers, gluten

> free pasta, heaps!!!!! of all kinds of fruit, no vegies, minimal fish

> and meat and rice milk.

> Thanks in advance for your guidance and support.

>

June 15, 2008

Our DAN doctor run a comperhensive stool analysis for my son. The test

showed two specific types of Bacteria, in the same test, they run a

special sensetivity test to determine what kind of medication can be

used to get rid of the existing Bacteria.

June 15, 2008

Our DAN doctor run a comperhensive stool analysis for my son. The test

showed two specific types of Bacteria, in the same test, they run a

special sensetivity test to determine what kind of medication can be

used to get rid of the existing Bacteria.

June 15, 2008

Our DAN doctor run a comperhensive stool analysis for my son. The test

showed two specific types of Bacteria, in the same test, they run a

special sensetivity test to determine what kind of medication can be

used to get rid of the existing Bacteria.

June 16, 2008

We did vancomycin and flagyl. the general practitioners don't like to

use it because it's one of the only remaining antibiotics that they

can turn to when bacteria is resistant to other abx. they don't want

to overuse it, so they refrain from using it until they absolutely

need it. From what i understand, when there are systemic infections,

vanco is delivered via IV. with the gut bacteria, it is delivered

orally. and is not supposed to be able to cross the intestines.

(however, with a leaky gut, I have no idea if this holds true).

we had the specific carbohydrate diet (www.pecanbread.com) in place

before we started. this diet eliminates the type of carbohydrate that

can feed the bacteria in the intestines. a lot of times, people report

that the bacterial problems clear up when on the abx, only to have

them return shortly after they stop giving them. by not having their

food source available to them during this time, my hope was that we

wouldn't encounter this problem. I think we have defeated the

bacteria, based on an immediate increase in aggression(die off

reaction) followed by a huge mellowing out. but we haven't had labs

done to confirm that. we have fungal issues as well, so we're working

on that before we retest. based on ryan's stool and behavioral

changes, I " m guessing that what we're doing is working.

good luck!

Kari