Qualitative differences in autistic dreams

[Guest guest]

I think I really should be sleeping and dreaming as I'm writing this, but I'm

writing this

while I'm thinking about dreaming instead

It occurred to me that there seems to be a topic that likely hasn't been studied

that much,

because (obviously) it's " not that important " to most people: how are dreams of

those on

the spectrum alike (if they are) and in which ways, and how are they different

from that of

neurotypicals?

Dreams have been one of my long-term perseverations, because I've had vivid

dreams I

can remember at least to around the age of 3, some that are still fresh in my

mind, even if

I've not had them for 30 years. From telling other people about my dreams, it

seems they

aren't exactly average, and I'm wondering how many others have dreams similar to

mine in

topic matter and visualization complexity. What I also find curious is that the

older I get,

the greater the visual complexity I've developed in my dreams. Note that not

all of my

dreams have these elements in them every day, though I've had periods (2 weeks

at a

time) where most nights had such things in the dreams.

Here are some of the qualitative differences I've had in my dreams, compared to

what it

seems others would remember or at least admit to:

1. I've had music in my dreams, of my creation.

2. I've had readable material in my dreams, of my creation, up to and including

whole

books, prose and poetry.

3. Math and counting figures (pardon the pun) heavily into my dreams, with

those two

things being about 10 times more frequent than (I wonder if this is typical)

proper names

in dreams of myself or other characters (thinking about it, I've never used my

proper name

in a dream in my life as far as I can remember). The math isn't limited to

simple

arithmetic, but has also covered graphing inequalities, trig identities, etc.

and the most

recent funny dream involving counting had me counting (along with another dream

character) and doing 121 pushups.

4. I've done word-play in my dreams, of word-play I've not heard/read/written

when

conscious.

5. I've visualized and solved visual puzzles (mazes) in my dreams.

6. I've had comic strips of my creation in my dreams (illustrating the

word-play, actually).

7. I've also had such things as electronic circuit diagrams in my dreams, both

in my

handwriting/scrawling, as well as neat book quality (all my readable material

tends to be

self-consistent for fonts).

I've had many other things that can be tied into those above, and I've had

several of those

elements appear in a single dream at the same time. Supposedly, depending on

whom

you ask, you can't actually read text in your dreams, you just think you do,

but... I'd beg,

scream and jump up and down to differ: I've had too detailed of dreams to

believe that's

the case universally. Besides, how did they conclude that it's a universal

truth???

I'd be curious how many others have similar dream bits.

[Guest guest]

I don't get shown in dreams written works that are unknown in the

real world. But I do find it perfectly normal to read the occasional

sentence or notice in a dream.

Is this significant for us? I thought it was perfectly normal until

I read Carl Sagan's The Dragons Of Eden. Sagan described inability

to read as a feature of dreams + a difference between the dream

state + waking state. He once had a frustrating dream about

discovering a history of the future but finding he couldn't read it.

This featured in his speculation that the dream state is a part

reversion to an animal state of mind, with the cerebral cortex shut

down.

The book is 30 years old + I have never heard of anyone picking out

that particular point in it to argue with. but perhaps readers all

just felt unsure of themselves if they differed with Sagan's

experience, not knowing what the majority experience is. Perhaps the

non-reading was personal to Sagan. It's a book whose view of the

mind/brain question is opposite to mine too, as he was a materialist-

reductionist.

>> 2. I've had readable material in my dreams, of my creation, up

to and including whole

> books, prose and poetry.

>

[Guest guest]

I don't get shown in dreams written works that are unknown in the

real world. But I do find it perfectly normal to read the occasional

sentence or notice in a dream.

Is this significant for us? I thought it was perfectly normal until

I read Carl Sagan's The Dragons Of Eden. Sagan described inability

to read as a feature of dreams + a difference between the dream

state + waking state. He once had a frustrating dream about

discovering a history of the future but finding he couldn't read it.

This featured in his speculation that the dream state is a part

reversion to an animal state of mind, with the cerebral cortex shut

down.

The book is 30 years old + I have never heard of anyone picking out

that particular point in it to argue with. but perhaps readers all

just felt unsure of themselves if they differed with Sagan's

experience, not knowing what the majority experience is. Perhaps the

non-reading was personal to Sagan. It's a book whose view of the

mind/brain question is opposite to mine too, as he was a materialist-

reductionist.

>> 2. I've had readable material in my dreams, of my creation, up

to and including whole

> books, prose and poetry.

>

[Guest guest]

" I'd be curious how many others have similar dream bits. "

The one novel I've completed was mostly dream-written. I have dreamt

that I can play musical instruments and compose music (something I

cannot do in real life although the LYRICS for three songs appear on

the " Countdown to Midnight " album Raven and I have created together.

Other than that, my dreams differ significantly fron yours, but I

suppose they are equally weird.

I seem to have various dream world realms that I can go into, partially

at will. That it is to say, when I recognize a path or a doorway into

one of those realms, I can freely enter it, and always do. Before

seeing the doorway, I do not always know when I am dreaming. After

recognizing the doorway, I know that I am dreaming and can control

whatever I do beyond the door.

The familiar characters are always there, and my role in these dreams

remains mostly unchanged. I am hard pressed to know if this is a

healthy thing for a grown man to dwell in such fantasy worlds.

Books are like Narnias of our chosing, but for the psyche to dwell in

these realms as one sleeps is escapism, perhaps, though I have problem

solved.

I do not think there is anything strange regarding the way you dream

though. There was some dream a scientist had who was trying to figure

out the physical bonding properties of a molecule and dreamt about a

bunch of snakes biting each other's tails and holding on. He woke up

and realized that this was the molecular structure that had been

elunding him for so long. Sounds like you are doing the same thing.

Tom

Administrator

[Guest guest]

" I'd be curious how many others have similar dream bits. "

The one novel I've completed was mostly dream-written. I have dreamt

that I can play musical instruments and compose music (something I

cannot do in real life although the LYRICS for three songs appear on

the " Countdown to Midnight " album Raven and I have created together.

Other than that, my dreams differ significantly fron yours, but I

suppose they are equally weird.

I seem to have various dream world realms that I can go into, partially

at will. That it is to say, when I recognize a path or a doorway into

one of those realms, I can freely enter it, and always do. Before

seeing the doorway, I do not always know when I am dreaming. After

recognizing the doorway, I know that I am dreaming and can control

whatever I do beyond the door.

The familiar characters are always there, and my role in these dreams

remains mostly unchanged. I am hard pressed to know if this is a

healthy thing for a grown man to dwell in such fantasy worlds.

Books are like Narnias of our chosing, but for the psyche to dwell in

these realms as one sleeps is escapism, perhaps, though I have problem

solved.

I do not think there is anything strange regarding the way you dream

though. There was some dream a scientist had who was trying to figure

out the physical bonding properties of a molecule and dreamt about a

bunch of snakes biting each other's tails and holding on. He woke up

and realized that this was the molecular structure that had been

elunding him for so long. Sounds like you are doing the same thing.

Tom

Administrator

[Guest guest]

" I'd be curious how many others have similar dream bits. "

The one novel I've completed was mostly dream-written. I have dreamt

that I can play musical instruments and compose music (something I

cannot do in real life although the LYRICS for three songs appear on

the " Countdown to Midnight " album Raven and I have created together.

Other than that, my dreams differ significantly fron yours, but I

suppose they are equally weird.

I seem to have various dream world realms that I can go into, partially

at will. That it is to say, when I recognize a path or a doorway into

one of those realms, I can freely enter it, and always do. Before

seeing the doorway, I do not always know when I am dreaming. After

recognizing the doorway, I know that I am dreaming and can control

whatever I do beyond the door.

The familiar characters are always there, and my role in these dreams

remains mostly unchanged. I am hard pressed to know if this is a

healthy thing for a grown man to dwell in such fantasy worlds.

Books are like Narnias of our chosing, but for the psyche to dwell in

these realms as one sleeps is escapism, perhaps, though I have problem

solved.

I do not think there is anything strange regarding the way you dream

though. There was some dream a scientist had who was trying to figure

out the physical bonding properties of a molecule and dreamt about a

bunch of snakes biting each other's tails and holding on. He woke up

and realized that this was the molecular structure that had been

elunding him for so long. Sounds like you are doing the same thing.

Tom

Administrator

[Guest guest]

I too have a couple of "dream worlds" but I can't control which one I go to. The places sometimes appear differently from visit to visit, though I always know where I am. In my case it is only the place that is the same, not the people. Very few people in my dreams actually, at least beyond the status of extras.

I too get many story ideas from dreams, though not so much lately. It is always based on the dream itself and not any written material I find there. For the most part, if I find written material, I can only read a little of it in my dreams before it stops making sense. The text is still there, I just can't read it anymore.

Comic strip or storyline type dreams are not uncommon. Usually though they are more like a live action feature. Sometimes I am just observing and other times participating. Other times it is like being stuck in the middle of a major event and just being along for the ride, or trying to stay out of the way.

I don't recall ever having a math type dream. But then again, my mind doesn't like math, almost certainly due to all those miserable timed math tests we had to take day in and day out from first through probably third grade.

Some scientists today think that dreams are the mind's way of firming up the knowledge that one has acquired during the day. That is to say, it programs it more solidly into the mind. That is one reason why in tests, if someone studied two subject before going to bed, the one studied last is the one they remember more about in the morning and on later tests. Kind of favors having a one subject plan in school so the mind focuses completely on one thing at a time.

It is also believed that much of our cognitive processing takes places in the subconscious mind and our waking mind can't quite hear it. Usually the results of this behind the scene processing makes it through, sometimes in what is referred to as an epiphany, but usually more subtle that than. Dreams are of the subconscious anyway, so problems are being solved without the annoying conscious mind getting in the way with all its focus on external stimuli. Since it doesn't seem to work in words and such, the subconscious shows its results in the form of dream imagery.

It also makes sense that dreams will be oriented toward ones interests and abilities. Mine are more toward writing and such, while others are more mathematically inclined.

In a message dated 2/24/2008 12:49:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

"I'd be curious how many others have similar dream bits."The one novel I've completed was mostly dream-written. I have dreamt that I can play musical instruments and compose music (something I cannot do in real life although the LYRICS for three songs appear on the "Countdown to Midnight" album Raven and I have created together. Other than that, my dreams differ significantly fron yours, but I suppose they are equally weird. I seem to have various dream world realms that I can go into, partially at will. That it is to say, when I recognize a path or a doorway into one of those realms, I can freely enter it, and always do. Before seeing the doorway, I do not always know when I am dreaming. After recognizing the doorway, I know that I am dreaming and can control whatever I do beyond the door.The familiar characters are always there, and my role in these dreams remains mostly unchanged. I am hard pressed to know if this is a healthy thing for a grown man to dwell in such fantasy worlds. Books are like Narnias of our chosing, but for the psyche to dwell in these realms as one sleeps is escapism, perhaps, though I have problem solved. I do not think there is anything strange regarding the way you dream though. There was some dream a scientist had who was trying to figure out the physical bonding properties of a molecule and dreamt about a bunch of snakes biting each other's tails and holding on. He woke up and realized that this was the molecular structure that had been elunding him for so long. Sounds like you are doing the same thing.TomAdministrator Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

[Guest guest]

I too have a couple of "dream worlds" but I can't control which one I go to. The places sometimes appear differently from visit to visit, though I always know where I am. In my case it is only the place that is the same, not the people. Very few people in my dreams actually, at least beyond the status of extras.

I too get many story ideas from dreams, though not so much lately. It is always based on the dream itself and not any written material I find there. For the most part, if I find written material, I can only read a little of it in my dreams before it stops making sense. The text is still there, I just can't read it anymore.

Comic strip or storyline type dreams are not uncommon. Usually though they are more like a live action feature. Sometimes I am just observing and other times participating. Other times it is like being stuck in the middle of a major event and just being along for the ride, or trying to stay out of the way.

I don't recall ever having a math type dream. But then again, my mind doesn't like math, almost certainly due to all those miserable timed math tests we had to take day in and day out from first through probably third grade.

Some scientists today think that dreams are the mind's way of firming up the knowledge that one has acquired during the day. That is to say, it programs it more solidly into the mind. That is one reason why in tests, if someone studied two subject before going to bed, the one studied last is the one they remember more about in the morning and on later tests. Kind of favors having a one subject plan in school so the mind focuses completely on one thing at a time.

It is also believed that much of our cognitive processing takes places in the subconscious mind and our waking mind can't quite hear it. Usually the results of this behind the scene processing makes it through, sometimes in what is referred to as an epiphany, but usually more subtle that than. Dreams are of the subconscious anyway, so problems are being solved without the annoying conscious mind getting in the way with all its focus on external stimuli. Since it doesn't seem to work in words and such, the subconscious shows its results in the form of dream imagery.

It also makes sense that dreams will be oriented toward ones interests and abilities. Mine are more toward writing and such, while others are more mathematically inclined.

In a message dated 2/24/2008 12:49:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

"I'd be curious how many others have similar dream bits."The one novel I've completed was mostly dream-written. I have dreamt that I can play musical instruments and compose music (something I cannot do in real life although the LYRICS for three songs appear on the "Countdown to Midnight" album Raven and I have created together. Other than that, my dreams differ significantly fron yours, but I suppose they are equally weird. I seem to have various dream world realms that I can go into, partially at will. That it is to say, when I recognize a path or a doorway into one of those realms, I can freely enter it, and always do. Before seeing the doorway, I do not always know when I am dreaming. After recognizing the doorway, I know that I am dreaming and can control whatever I do beyond the door.The familiar characters are always there, and my role in these dreams remains mostly unchanged. I am hard pressed to know if this is a healthy thing for a grown man to dwell in such fantasy worlds. Books are like Narnias of our chosing, but for the psyche to dwell in these realms as one sleeps is escapism, perhaps, though I have problem solved. I do not think there is anything strange regarding the way you dream though. There was some dream a scientist had who was trying to figure out the physical bonding properties of a molecule and dreamt about a bunch of snakes biting each other's tails and holding on. He woke up and realized that this was the molecular structure that had been elunding him for so long. Sounds like you are doing the same thing.TomAdministrator Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

[Guest guest]

I too have a couple of "dream worlds" but I can't control which one I go to. The places sometimes appear differently from visit to visit, though I always know where I am. In my case it is only the place that is the same, not the people. Very few people in my dreams actually, at least beyond the status of extras.

I too get many story ideas from dreams, though not so much lately. It is always based on the dream itself and not any written material I find there. For the most part, if I find written material, I can only read a little of it in my dreams before it stops making sense. The text is still there, I just can't read it anymore.

Comic strip or storyline type dreams are not uncommon. Usually though they are more like a live action feature. Sometimes I am just observing and other times participating. Other times it is like being stuck in the middle of a major event and just being along for the ride, or trying to stay out of the way.

I don't recall ever having a math type dream. But then again, my mind doesn't like math, almost certainly due to all those miserable timed math tests we had to take day in and day out from first through probably third grade.

Some scientists today think that dreams are the mind's way of firming up the knowledge that one has acquired during the day. That is to say, it programs it more solidly into the mind. That is one reason why in tests, if someone studied two subject before going to bed, the one studied last is the one they remember more about in the morning and on later tests. Kind of favors having a one subject plan in school so the mind focuses completely on one thing at a time.

It is also believed that much of our cognitive processing takes places in the subconscious mind and our waking mind can't quite hear it. Usually the results of this behind the scene processing makes it through, sometimes in what is referred to as an epiphany, but usually more subtle that than. Dreams are of the subconscious anyway, so problems are being solved without the annoying conscious mind getting in the way with all its focus on external stimuli. Since it doesn't seem to work in words and such, the subconscious shows its results in the form of dream imagery.

It also makes sense that dreams will be oriented toward ones interests and abilities. Mine are more toward writing and such, while others are more mathematically inclined.

In a message dated 2/24/2008 12:49:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

"I'd be curious how many others have similar dream bits."The one novel I've completed was mostly dream-written. I have dreamt that I can play musical instruments and compose music (something I cannot do in real life although the LYRICS for three songs appear on the "Countdown to Midnight" album Raven and I have created together. Other than that, my dreams differ significantly fron yours, but I suppose they are equally weird. I seem to have various dream world realms that I can go into, partially at will. That it is to say, when I recognize a path or a doorway into one of those realms, I can freely enter it, and always do. Before seeing the doorway, I do not always know when I am dreaming. After recognizing the doorway, I know that I am dreaming and can control whatever I do beyond the door.The familiar characters are always there, and my role in these dreams remains mostly unchanged. I am hard pressed to know if this is a healthy thing for a grown man to dwell in such fantasy worlds. Books are like Narnias of our chosing, but for the psyche to dwell in these realms as one sleeps is escapism, perhaps, though I have problem solved. I do not think there is anything strange regarding the way you dream though. There was some dream a scientist had who was trying to figure out the physical bonding properties of a molecule and dreamt about a bunch of snakes biting each other's tails and holding on. He woke up and realized that this was the molecular structure that had been elunding him for so long. Sounds like you are doing the same thing.TomAdministrator Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

[Guest guest]

Some of my stories I have concieved in dreams and I do on occasion

recall writing. I've also heard music in my dreams and then

replicated such in waking life.

Something I was wondering that wasn't mentioned is some are of the

belief that one cannot dream in colour and yet I know that I do. So I

wondered how many others here dream in colour?

I also have dream places, places like houses etc that I have never

seen in waking life and yet often return to in dreams and when I

return to them in dreams I recognise the places.

Being able to fly in dreams seems very natural and I often used to

ponder why I could not in waking life, since it seemed so natural and

easy in dreams.

Another intruiging aspect I sometimes come across in dreams is

looking out from my own eyes (in the dream), but looking down and

realising it is not my own body that I am looking out from (not the

one I have in waking life).

Interaction does not seem as hampered in dreams as it is in waking

life.

>

> " I'd be curious how many others have similar dream bits. "

>

> The one novel I've completed was mostly dream-written. I have

dreamt

> that I can play musical instruments and compose music (something I

> cannot do in real life although the LYRICS for three songs appear

on

> the " Countdown to Midnight " album Raven and I have created

together.

>

> Other than that, my dreams differ significantly fron yours, but I

> suppose they are equally weird.

>

> I seem to have various dream world realms that I can go into,

partially

> at will. That it is to say, when I recognize a path or a doorway

into

> one of those realms, I can freely enter it, and always do. Before

> seeing the doorway, I do not always know when I am dreaming. After

> recognizing the doorway, I know that I am dreaming and can control

> whatever I do beyond the door.

>

> The familiar characters are always there, and my role in these

dreams

> remains mostly unchanged. I am hard pressed to know if this is a

> healthy thing for a grown man to dwell in such fantasy worlds.

>

> Books are like Narnias of our chosing, but for the psyche to dwell

in

> these realms as one sleeps is escapism, perhaps, though I have

problem

> solved.

>

> I do not think there is anything strange regarding the way you

dream

> though. There was some dream a scientist had who was trying to

figure

> out the physical bonding properties of a molecule and dreamt about

a

> bunch of snakes biting each other's tails and holding on. He woke

up

> and realized that this was the molecular structure that had been

> elunding him for so long. Sounds like you are doing the same thing.

>

> Tom

> Administrator

>

[Guest guest]

" Something I was wondering that wasn't mentioned is some are of the

belief that one cannot dream in colour and yet I know that I do. So I

wondered how many others here dream in colour? "

I do.

" I also have dream places, places like houses etc that I have never

seen in waking life and yet often return to in dreams and when I

return to them in dreams I recognise the places. "

Me too.

" Being able to fly in dreams seems very natural and I often used to

ponder why I could not in waking life, since it seemed so natural and

easy in dreams. "

I fly in some of my dreams also.

" Interaction does not seem as hampered in dreams as it is in waking

life. "

Likewise.

Tom

Administrator

[Guest guest]

" Something I was wondering that wasn't mentioned is some are of the

belief that one cannot dream in colour and yet I know that I do. So I

wondered how many others here dream in colour? "

I do.

" I also have dream places, places like houses etc that I have never

seen in waking life and yet often return to in dreams and when I

return to them in dreams I recognise the places. "

Me too.

" Being able to fly in dreams seems very natural and I often used to

ponder why I could not in waking life, since it seemed so natural and

easy in dreams. "

I fly in some of my dreams also.

" Interaction does not seem as hampered in dreams as it is in waking

life. "

Likewise.

Tom

Administrator

[Guest guest]

I too have always dreamed in color, though flying isn't all that common in my dreams. I know what you mean about the perspective. Sometimes I can tell that I am an active participant in the dream but other times I am just observing and I'm not sure that the others realize I am there. Kind of like the difference between being an actor in a movie or being the cameraman.

Some of my stories I have concieved in dreams and I do on occasion recall writing. I've also heard music in my dreams and then replicated such in waking life.Something I was wondering that wasn't mentioned is some are of the belief that one cannot dream in colour and yet I know that I do. So I wondered how many others here dream in colour?I also have dream places, places like houses etc that I have never seen in waking life and yet often return to in dreams and when I return to them in dreams I recognise the places.Being able to fly in dreams seems very natural and I often used to ponder why I could not in waking life, since it seemed so natural and easy in dreams.Another intruiging aspect I sometimes come across in dreams is looking out from my own eyes (in the dream), but looking down and realising it is not my own body that I am looking out from (not the one I have in waking life).Interaction does not seem as hampered in dreams as it is in waking life.> > "I'd be curious how many others have similar dream bits."> > The one novel I've completed was mostly dream-written. I have dreamt > that I can play musical instruments and compose music (something I > cannot do in real life although the LYRICS for three songs appear on > the "Countdown to Midnight" album Raven and I have created together. > > Other than that, my dreams differ significantly fron yours, but I > suppose they are equally weird. > > I seem to have various dream world realms that I can go into, partially > at will. That it is to say, when I recognize a path or a doorway into > one of those realms, I can freely enter it, and always do. Before > seeing the doorway, I do not always know when I am dreaming. After > recognizing the doorway, I know that I am dreaming and can control > whatever I do beyond the door.> > The familiar characters are always there, and my role in these dreams > remains mostly unchanged. I am hard pressed to know if this is a > healthy thing for a grown man to dwell in such fantasy worlds. > > Books are like Narnias of our chosing, but for the psyche to dwell in > these realms as one sleeps is escapism, perhaps, though I have problem > solved. > > I do not think there is anything strange regarding the way you dream > though. There was some dream a scientist had who was trying to figure > out the physical bonding properties of a molecule and dreamt about a > bunch of snakes biting each other's tails and holding on. He woke up > and realized that this was the molecular structure that had been > elunding him for so long. Sounds like you are doing the same thing.> > Tom> Administrator> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

[Guest guest]

(I was gone for several days, traveling/training at work away from the local

office)

I remember there's a M*A*S*H episode where dreaming is discussed, and there's a

mention

of dreaming in black and white. What's important there is to remember that if

they keep

things accurate time-wise, if you had TV, it was black and white: thus, that's

how people

of the time saw most video and movie information, and thus they may dream in

that

manner. Me, I can't comprehend how someone could dream in a color palette that

you

don't normally dream in: I've *NEVER* dreamt in anything beyond full color, with

the rare

exception where I dream I'm sleeping/existing in a purely dark situation (this

happened

once I can recall distinctly when I had a major attack of vertigo from the inner

ear problem

I have, and remember doing my best to try to hang on while I felt like I was

rocking back

and forth violently). So, I think the black-and-white dreaming is a

technological influence

left over that got " canonized " in the world of discussion about dreaming.

Also as a side-effect of the inner ear issue, I've had at least one dream ala

" The Matrix "

with my own version of " Bullet Time " where I had a rotating perspective of what

was going

on in the dream, adapting for the vertigo, in real-time. I regularly

incorporate stimuli

from the outside world into my dream world, and create a dream around it, which

has

resulted in creating music videos, news segments, etc. depending on what I've

had playing

in the background. After experiencing a music video or two in a dream state, I

had

decided perhaps it'd be wiser to wake up to news segments instead; BIG mistake!

I had

one case where I incorporated an NPR report on an earthquake in Armenia many

years

ago, only I filled out a scenario that was hyperrealistic involving a dead

victim staring at

me with blood running down her forehead, with the rest of her body crushed by a

collapsed concrete building, while I was in about the situation of the camera

person,

watching the reporter. In other words, there's nothing truly safe for me to use

;/

>

> Some of my stories I have concieved in dreams and I do on occasion

> recall writing. I've also heard music in my dreams and then

> replicated such in waking life.

>

> Something I was wondering that wasn't mentioned is some are of the

> belief that one cannot dream in colour and yet I know that I do. So I

> wondered how many others here dream in colour?

>

> I also have dream places, places like houses etc that I have never

> seen in waking life and yet often return to in dreams and when I

> return to them in dreams I recognise the places.

>

> Being able to fly in dreams seems very natural and I often used to

> ponder why I could not in waking life, since it seemed so natural and

> easy in dreams.

>

> Another intruiging aspect I sometimes come across in dreams is

> looking out from my own eyes (in the dream), but looking down and

> realising it is not my own body that I am looking out from (not the

> one I have in waking life).

>

> Interaction does not seem as hampered in dreams as it is in waking

> life.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

(I was gone for several days, traveling/training at work away from the local

office)

I remember there's a M*A*S*H episode where dreaming is discussed, and there's a

mention

of dreaming in black and white. What's important there is to remember that if

they keep

things accurate time-wise, if you had TV, it was black and white: thus, that's

how people

of the time saw most video and movie information, and thus they may dream in

that

manner. Me, I can't comprehend how someone could dream in a color palette that

you

don't normally dream in: I've *NEVER* dreamt in anything beyond full color, with

the rare

exception where I dream I'm sleeping/existing in a purely dark situation (this

happened

once I can recall distinctly when I had a major attack of vertigo from the inner

ear problem

I have, and remember doing my best to try to hang on while I felt like I was

rocking back

and forth violently). So, I think the black-and-white dreaming is a

technological influence

left over that got " canonized " in the world of discussion about dreaming.

Also as a side-effect of the inner ear issue, I've had at least one dream ala

" The Matrix "

with my own version of " Bullet Time " where I had a rotating perspective of what

was going

on in the dream, adapting for the vertigo, in real-time. I regularly

incorporate stimuli

from the outside world into my dream world, and create a dream around it, which

has

resulted in creating music videos, news segments, etc. depending on what I've

had playing

in the background. After experiencing a music video or two in a dream state, I

had

decided perhaps it'd be wiser to wake up to news segments instead; BIG mistake!

I had

one case where I incorporated an NPR report on an earthquake in Armenia many

years

ago, only I filled out a scenario that was hyperrealistic involving a dead

victim staring at

me with blood running down her forehead, with the rest of her body crushed by a

collapsed concrete building, while I was in about the situation of the camera

person,

watching the reporter. In other words, there's nothing truly safe for me to use

;/

>

> Some of my stories I have concieved in dreams and I do on occasion

> recall writing. I've also heard music in my dreams and then

> replicated such in waking life.

>

> Something I was wondering that wasn't mentioned is some are of the

> belief that one cannot dream in colour and yet I know that I do. So I

> wondered how many others here dream in colour?

>

> I also have dream places, places like houses etc that I have never

> seen in waking life and yet often return to in dreams and when I

> return to them in dreams I recognise the places.

>

> Being able to fly in dreams seems very natural and I often used to

> ponder why I could not in waking life, since it seemed so natural and

> easy in dreams.

>

> Another intruiging aspect I sometimes come across in dreams is

> looking out from my own eyes (in the dream), but looking down and

> realising it is not my own body that I am looking out from (not the

> one I have in waking life).

>

> Interaction does not seem as hampered in dreams as it is in waking

> life.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am very late in chiming in but ditto

[Guest guest]

>

I dream in color too . In fact much of what you mentioned

dreaming is almost exact to my own experiences in dreaming. I have

dreamed of people as being houses and that going into a persons house

and remodeling in order to heal them. The risk is that the person

hates you for changing them although they are well in the end.. In any

case, very much yes on color, reading hearing music, names, flying. Etc

Many of my dreams are about protection, sacrifice toward that end,

knowledge and the acquiring of it, and a central theme is innate

untapped ability. (in addition understanding of physics)

[Guest guest]

> Something I was wondering that wasn't mentioned is some are of the

> belief that one cannot dream in colour and yet I know that I do. So I

> wondered how many others here dream in colour?

I had three of the strangest dreams recently and in rich texture and

color.

In the first, Tom was in my backyard talking to my youngest son, the

yellow and black bumblebees were flying around the Linden tree, with

it's small pale yellow flowers and I pulled myself up on the green front

gate as if to jump over it when I saw them back by the garage. My fence

is not green though in reality but silver. I never got into the

backyard in my dream, so never did get to meet Tom.

In the second dream, I'm in a new home, my new home that is absolutely

huge. I am unpacking when I notice movement in the shadows of the large

family room and out from the corner stolls a large panther colored, that

velvetly blue/black, cat. The cat has a body the size and shape of a

tiger but yet has the dark panther coloring. Then it's mate comes

forward too. I am not afraid nor do I question why they are in this

home. It feels more like their home than mine. As I move about I come

across two younger cats, not kittens but like young adults with the same

tiger like bodies and heads but tawny, like lions. They want to

frighten me, or play like they are going to strike but I brush them

aside to finish what it is I'm doing. Later, I am showing this home to

my in-laws or my husband's family who do not resemble his real family at

all. They act as though I am newly married but I know I've been married

for many years and have children. The kids never make it into the

dream. As I show these people rooms in the house, the adult cats come

out of the shadows again and the visitors are visibly shaken. I

reassure them that the cats will not harm them but caution them not to

make any sudden movements that may trigger their instinct to pounce.

When we enter a long hall, then walk to the furthest room back, I open

the door and there is a huge white bed that covers nearly the entire

room. For some strange reason, I get down on my hands and knees and

look under the bed. There, huddled in the far corner are a group of

scraggley looking people who seem to have been living under the bed for

quite some time. I know for some reason that they are terrified of the

cats, so I motion to them to come out. As they run past me, the female

adult makes her move but I grasp her by the nape and use my body to push

her into a side bedroom. There I sit with her and she is on my lap,

like an overgrown child. As I stroke her plush velvety fur, she turns

into a woman with long black hair, thick black eyelashes and deep red

lips.

The last dream involves yet another large cat. I am standing on a large

platform of marble with gaurdrails on either side. The rails look like

any silver railing you might see, the kind used to help those who have

stability issues, with two horizontal bars with a wide gap between them.

I am looking ahead a large boulder some three hundred yards away and a

man that seems to be using it to hide or shield himself from me. I

sense a crowd behind me but do not look back. I am holding a bow and

arrow but it is one of those toy kinds, plastic fake wood, a string that

can never be pulled taut and arrow that has the fake plastic red

feathers. So, as I watch the man I see a spotted leopard creeping up

behind him. The landscape is barren but for the boulder and I shout a

warning of the cat behind him. He turns, sees the cat, yells at the cat

and the cat runs away. Awhile later, I am walking towards the boulder

when I see the leopard coming again. I am to the end of my platform

where the gaurdrails end and I yell to the man but the cat is running at

him top speed. He turns to look and it seems like the same moment he

turns the cat is bounding past him and towards me. Of course I think, I

am the smaller prey and look at my useless bow and arrow. He is up to

the gaurdrail in a heartbeat but on the other side. All I do is react

and lift my leg to kick his head through the gap in the railing.

So, I wake up intantly with my leg still in the kick position. After

telling these dreams to a couple people their first questions to me was

what drugs had I took or was I drinking. Nope, nothing, just plain

weirdness.

Kim

[Guest guest]

> Something I was wondering that wasn't mentioned is some are of the

> belief that one cannot dream in colour and yet I know that I do. So I

> wondered how many others here dream in colour?

I had three of the strangest dreams recently and in rich texture and

color.

In the first, Tom was in my backyard talking to my youngest son, the

yellow and black bumblebees were flying around the Linden tree, with

it's small pale yellow flowers and I pulled myself up on the green front

gate as if to jump over it when I saw them back by the garage. My fence

is not green though in reality but silver. I never got into the

backyard in my dream, so never did get to meet Tom.

In the second dream, I'm in a new home, my new home that is absolutely

huge. I am unpacking when I notice movement in the shadows of the large

family room and out from the corner stolls a large panther colored, that

velvetly blue/black, cat. The cat has a body the size and shape of a

tiger but yet has the dark panther coloring. Then it's mate comes

forward too. I am not afraid nor do I question why they are in this

home. It feels more like their home than mine. As I move about I come

across two younger cats, not kittens but like young adults with the same

tiger like bodies and heads but tawny, like lions. They want to

frighten me, or play like they are going to strike but I brush them

aside to finish what it is I'm doing. Later, I am showing this home to

my in-laws or my husband's family who do not resemble his real family at

all. They act as though I am newly married but I know I've been married

for many years and have children. The kids never make it into the

dream. As I show these people rooms in the house, the adult cats come

out of the shadows again and the visitors are visibly shaken. I

reassure them that the cats will not harm them but caution them not to

make any sudden movements that may trigger their instinct to pounce.

When we enter a long hall, then walk to the furthest room back, I open

the door and there is a huge white bed that covers nearly the entire

room. For some strange reason, I get down on my hands and knees and

look under the bed. There, huddled in the far corner are a group of

scraggley looking people who seem to have been living under the bed for

quite some time. I know for some reason that they are terrified of the

cats, so I motion to them to come out. As they run past me, the female

adult makes her move but I grasp her by the nape and use my body to push

her into a side bedroom. There I sit with her and she is on my lap,

like an overgrown child. As I stroke her plush velvety fur, she turns

into a woman with long black hair, thick black eyelashes and deep red

lips.

The last dream involves yet another large cat. I am standing on a large

platform of marble with gaurdrails on either side. The rails look like

any silver railing you might see, the kind used to help those who have

stability issues, with two horizontal bars with a wide gap between them.

I am looking ahead a large boulder some three hundred yards away and a

man that seems to be using it to hide or shield himself from me. I

sense a crowd behind me but do not look back. I am holding a bow and

arrow but it is one of those toy kinds, plastic fake wood, a string that

can never be pulled taut and arrow that has the fake plastic red

feathers. So, as I watch the man I see a spotted leopard creeping up

behind him. The landscape is barren but for the boulder and I shout a

warning of the cat behind him. He turns, sees the cat, yells at the cat

and the cat runs away. Awhile later, I am walking towards the boulder

when I see the leopard coming again. I am to the end of my platform

where the gaurdrails end and I yell to the man but the cat is running at

him top speed. He turns to look and it seems like the same moment he

turns the cat is bounding past him and towards me. Of course I think, I

am the smaller prey and look at my useless bow and arrow. He is up to

the gaurdrail in a heartbeat but on the other side. All I do is react

and lift my leg to kick his head through the gap in the railing.

So, I wake up intantly with my leg still in the kick position. After

telling these dreams to a couple people their first questions to me was

what drugs had I took or was I drinking. Nope, nothing, just plain

weirdness.

Kim

[Guest guest]

> Something I was wondering that wasn't mentioned is some are of the

> belief that one cannot dream in colour and yet I know that I do. So I

> wondered how many others here dream in colour?

I had three of the strangest dreams recently and in rich texture and

color.

In the first, Tom was in my backyard talking to my youngest son, the

yellow and black bumblebees were flying around the Linden tree, with

it's small pale yellow flowers and I pulled myself up on the green front

gate as if to jump over it when I saw them back by the garage. My fence

is not green though in reality but silver. I never got into the

backyard in my dream, so never did get to meet Tom.

In the second dream, I'm in a new home, my new home that is absolutely

huge. I am unpacking when I notice movement in the shadows of the large

family room and out from the corner stolls a large panther colored, that

velvetly blue/black, cat. The cat has a body the size and shape of a

tiger but yet has the dark panther coloring. Then it's mate comes

forward too. I am not afraid nor do I question why they are in this

home. It feels more like their home than mine. As I move about I come

across two younger cats, not kittens but like young adults with the same

tiger like bodies and heads but tawny, like lions. They want to

frighten me, or play like they are going to strike but I brush them

aside to finish what it is I'm doing. Later, I am showing this home to

my in-laws or my husband's family who do not resemble his real family at

all. They act as though I am newly married but I know I've been married

for many years and have children. The kids never make it into the

dream. As I show these people rooms in the house, the adult cats come

out of the shadows again and the visitors are visibly shaken. I

reassure them that the cats will not harm them but caution them not to

make any sudden movements that may trigger their instinct to pounce.

When we enter a long hall, then walk to the furthest room back, I open

the door and there is a huge white bed that covers nearly the entire

room. For some strange reason, I get down on my hands and knees and

look under the bed. There, huddled in the far corner are a group of

scraggley looking people who seem to have been living under the bed for

quite some time. I know for some reason that they are terrified of the

cats, so I motion to them to come out. As they run past me, the female

adult makes her move but I grasp her by the nape and use my body to push

her into a side bedroom. There I sit with her and she is on my lap,

like an overgrown child. As I stroke her plush velvety fur, she turns

into a woman with long black hair, thick black eyelashes and deep red

lips.

The last dream involves yet another large cat. I am standing on a large

platform of marble with gaurdrails on either side. The rails look like

any silver railing you might see, the kind used to help those who have

stability issues, with two horizontal bars with a wide gap between them.

I am looking ahead a large boulder some three hundred yards away and a

man that seems to be using it to hide or shield himself from me. I

sense a crowd behind me but do not look back. I am holding a bow and

arrow but it is one of those toy kinds, plastic fake wood, a string that

can never be pulled taut and arrow that has the fake plastic red

feathers. So, as I watch the man I see a spotted leopard creeping up

behind him. The landscape is barren but for the boulder and I shout a

warning of the cat behind him. He turns, sees the cat, yells at the cat

and the cat runs away. Awhile later, I am walking towards the boulder

when I see the leopard coming again. I am to the end of my platform

where the gaurdrails end and I yell to the man but the cat is running at

him top speed. He turns to look and it seems like the same moment he

turns the cat is bounding past him and towards me. Of course I think, I

am the smaller prey and look at my useless bow and arrow. He is up to

the gaurdrail in a heartbeat but on the other side. All I do is react

and lift my leg to kick his head through the gap in the railing.

So, I wake up intantly with my leg still in the kick position. After

telling these dreams to a couple people their first questions to me was

what drugs had I took or was I drinking. Nope, nothing, just plain

weirdness.

Kim

[Guest guest]

" In the first, Tom was in my backyard talking to my youngest son,

the yellow and black bumblebees were flying around the Linden tree,

with it's small pale yellow flowers and I pulled myself up on the

green front gate as if to jump over it when I saw them back by the

garage. My fence is not green though in reality but silver. I

never got into the backyard in my dream, so never did get to meet

Tom. "

Not sure what this one was about. Forgive me for saying so, but I

cannot remember which son of yours has AS. If it is the youingest,

perhaps you see me as a mentor given the opinions I have expressed

when you were in the Family Forum? Green is a color of spring, so

maybe the dream had something to do with personal growth.

" In the second dream, I'm in a new home, my new home that is

absolutely huge. I am unpacking when I notice movement in the

shadows of the large family room and out from the corner strolls a

large panther colored, that velvetly blue/black, cat. "

This my sound like a non-sequitor, but what sort of things were you

unpacking? This dream is very symbolic.

" The cat has a body the size and shape of a tiger but yet has the

dark panther coloring. "

The familiar " black panther " is not a species, but a genetic

variation that CAN be found in all cats, although it is most

commonly found in leopards and jaguars. It is caused by an excess of

melanin production in the skin and hair follicles, the same coloring

that caused people of African and Autralian Aboriginal, and East

Indian descent to have dark skin. It's absence is what causes our

skin to be mostly white.

White lions, which are NOT deemed to be albino, can be found in

Timbavati. To date, I do not believe there is any record in recent

history of a black lion or a black tiger. The scientific name for

tiger is panthera tigris. The Amur tiger is the biggest of all cats,

and the bigest of the 8 subspecies of tiger (and the five that are

not extinct). That you should dream of this animal is symbolic in a

number of ways.

" Then it's mate comes forward too. I am not afraid nor do I

question why they are in this home. It feels more like their home

than mine. "

This is very telling.

" As I move about I come across two younger cats, not kittens but

like young adults with the same tiger like bodies and heads but

tawny, like lions. They want to frighten me, or play like they are

going to strike but I brush them aside to finish what it is I'm

doing. "

This is also very telling. Having read through the whole synopsis,

it seems to me that the tigers are different aspects of your own

personality that are trying to get in touch with you.

" Later, I am showing this home to my in-laws or my husband's family

who do not resemble his real family at all. They act as though I am

newly married but I know I've been married for many years and have

children. "

Your in-laws as they are represented here are how you perceive them,

not how they actually appear. How they act is a reflection of how

they sometimes make you feel. You know that you are much moremature

in marriage and child-rearing than they give you credit for.

" The kids never make it into the dream. "

That's because you are going to have a symbolic show-down with your

in-laws.

" As I show these people rooms in the house, the adult cats come out

of the shadows again and the visitors are visibly shaken. "

It is because you have shown your true personality to them and they

do not know how to deal with it in light of how they have been

treating you.

" I reassure them that the cats will not harm them but caution them

not to make any sudden movements that may trigger their instinct to

pounce. "

Is this how you wish to be treated when you are with them? And is

this how you would treat them if they treat you according to your

wishes?

" When we enter a long hall, then walk to the furthest room back, I

open the door and there is a huge white bed that covers nearly the

entire room. For some strange reason, I get down on my hands and

knees and look under the bed. There, huddled in the far corner are

a group of scraggley looking people who seem to have been living

under the bed for quite some time. I know for some reason that they

are terrified of the cats, so I motion to them to come out. "

The bed is where the tigers sleep. Beneath the bed are the aspects

of your personality that you do NOT like.

" As they run past me, the female adult makes her move but I grasp

her by the nape and use my body to push her into a side bedroom. "

It's because even though these aspects of your personality are ones

you do not like, you recognize that they are necessary, and so must

still be protected.

" There I sit with her and she is on my lap, like an overgrown child.

As I stroke her plush velvety fur, she turns into a woman with long

black hair, thick black eyelashes and deep red lips. "

Is this an idealized conception of a woman to you? If so, this image

would seem to be a reflection of your best traits and what your

inner self is like, and the dream is symbolic of accepting that you

can allow these potentially dangerous traits to come out and serve a

useful and non-lethal purpose. Your stroking her fur is symbolic of

you coming to terms with this side of you and feeling comfortable

with it. .

" The last dream involves yet another large cat. I am standing on a

large platform of marble with gaurdrails on either side. The rails

look like any silver railing you might see, the kind used to help

those who have stability issues, with two horizontal bars with a

wide gap between them.

" I am looking ahead a large boulder some three hundred yards away

and a man that seems to be using it to hide or shield himself from

me. I sense a crowd behind me but do not look back. I am holding a

bow and arrow but it is one of those toy kinds, plastic fake wood, a

string that can never be pulled taut and arrow that has the fake

plastic red feathers. So, as I watch the man I see a spotted

leopard creeping up behind him. The landscape is barren but for the

boulder and I shout a warning of the cat behind him. He turns, sees

the cat, yells at the cat and the cat runs away. Awhile later, I am

walking towards the boulder when I see the leopard coming again. I

am to the end of my platform where the gaurdrails end and I yell to

the man but the cat is running at him top speed. He turns to look

and it seems like the same moment he turns the cat is bounding past

him and towards me. Of course I think, I am the smaller prey and

look at my useless bow and arrow. He is up to the gaurdrail in a

heartbeat but on the other side. All I do is react and lift my leg

to kick his head through the gap in the railing. So, I wake up

intantly with my leg still in the kick position. "

The man seems to be able to defend himself with a shout, and during

this dream you are concerned that the weapon you hold will not work.

When the situation reaches its apex, you use your own power -not the

weapon- to attack. Might this be representative of the IEP meeting

you were talking about in the FF? You may feel unprepared and fairly

defenseless going into the meeting compared to other people?

The dream is demonstrating that if things get nasty, you do have

power within yourself to do what is necessary to defend against

attack, whether that attack be oblique or head on.

" After telling these dreams to a couple people their first questions

to me was what drugs had I took or was I drinking. Nope, nothing,

just plain weirdness. "

I hate when people make statements like this because it discounts

the value and validity of the dreams. Many dreams are just

meaningless nonsense dreams...just the mind sorting through the

jumble of the day, or playing around with ideas. others are dreams

with a purpose, such as erotic dreams, or dreams about upcoming

projects. The dreams that you have had this time around are trying

to tell you something and they should be regarded seriously.

Was the IEP meeting regarding your young son? Because maybe the " Me "

that you saw in the first dream was not " Me " per se, but a symbolic

representation of the knowledge you have of AS which you will need

to use during his IEP. Your inability to jump the fence and

meet " Me " may have been some trepidation you were feeling about

being able to represent that knowledge if necessary at the meeting.

Administrator

[Guest guest]

" In the first, Tom was in my backyard talking to my youngest son,

the yellow and black bumblebees were flying around the Linden tree,

with it's small pale yellow flowers and I pulled myself up on the

green front gate as if to jump over it when I saw them back by the

garage. My fence is not green though in reality but silver. I

never got into the backyard in my dream, so never did get to meet

Tom. "

Not sure what this one was about. Forgive me for saying so, but I

cannot remember which son of yours has AS. If it is the youingest,

perhaps you see me as a mentor given the opinions I have expressed

when you were in the Family Forum? Green is a color of spring, so

maybe the dream had something to do with personal growth.

" In the second dream, I'm in a new home, my new home that is

absolutely huge. I am unpacking when I notice movement in the

shadows of the large family room and out from the corner strolls a

large panther colored, that velvetly blue/black, cat. "

This my sound like a non-sequitor, but what sort of things were you

unpacking? This dream is very symbolic.

" The cat has a body the size and shape of a tiger but yet has the

dark panther coloring. "

The familiar " black panther " is not a species, but a genetic

variation that CAN be found in all cats, although it is most

commonly found in leopards and jaguars. It is caused by an excess of

melanin production in the skin and hair follicles, the same coloring

that caused people of African and Autralian Aboriginal, and East

Indian descent to have dark skin. It's absence is what causes our

skin to be mostly white.

White lions, which are NOT deemed to be albino, can be found in

Timbavati. To date, I do not believe there is any record in recent

history of a black lion or a black tiger. The scientific name for

tiger is panthera tigris. The Amur tiger is the biggest of all cats,

and the bigest of the 8 subspecies of tiger (and the five that are

not extinct). That you should dream of this animal is symbolic in a

number of ways.

" Then it's mate comes forward too. I am not afraid nor do I

question why they are in this home. It feels more like their home

than mine. "

This is very telling.

" As I move about I come across two younger cats, not kittens but

like young adults with the same tiger like bodies and heads but

tawny, like lions. They want to frighten me, or play like they are

going to strike but I brush them aside to finish what it is I'm

doing. "

This is also very telling. Having read through the whole synopsis,

it seems to me that the tigers are different aspects of your own

personality that are trying to get in touch with you.

" Later, I am showing this home to my in-laws or my husband's family

who do not resemble his real family at all. They act as though I am

newly married but I know I've been married for many years and have

children. "

Your in-laws as they are represented here are how you perceive them,

not how they actually appear. How they act is a reflection of how

they sometimes make you feel. You know that you are much moremature

in marriage and child-rearing than they give you credit for.

" The kids never make it into the dream. "

That's because you are going to have a symbolic show-down with your

in-laws.

" As I show these people rooms in the house, the adult cats come out

of the shadows again and the visitors are visibly shaken. "

It is because you have shown your true personality to them and they

do not know how to deal with it in light of how they have been

treating you.

" I reassure them that the cats will not harm them but caution them

not to make any sudden movements that may trigger their instinct to

pounce. "

Is this how you wish to be treated when you are with them? And is

this how you would treat them if they treat you according to your

wishes?

" When we enter a long hall, then walk to the furthest room back, I

open the door and there is a huge white bed that covers nearly the

entire room. For some strange reason, I get down on my hands and

knees and look under the bed. There, huddled in the far corner are

a group of scraggley looking people who seem to have been living

under the bed for quite some time. I know for some reason that they

are terrified of the cats, so I motion to them to come out. "

The bed is where the tigers sleep. Beneath the bed are the aspects

of your personality that you do NOT like.

" As they run past me, the female adult makes her move but I grasp

her by the nape and use my body to push her into a side bedroom. "

It's because even though these aspects of your personality are ones

you do not like, you recognize that they are necessary, and so must

still be protected.

" There I sit with her and she is on my lap, like an overgrown child.

As I stroke her plush velvety fur, she turns into a woman with long

black hair, thick black eyelashes and deep red lips. "

Is this an idealized conception of a woman to you? If so, this image

would seem to be a reflection of your best traits and what your

inner self is like, and the dream is symbolic of accepting that you

can allow these potentially dangerous traits to come out and serve a

useful and non-lethal purpose. Your stroking her fur is symbolic of

you coming to terms with this side of you and feeling comfortable

with it. .

" The last dream involves yet another large cat. I am standing on a

large platform of marble with gaurdrails on either side. The rails

look like any silver railing you might see, the kind used to help

those who have stability issues, with two horizontal bars with a

wide gap between them.

" I am looking ahead a large boulder some three hundred yards away

and a man that seems to be using it to hide or shield himself from

me. I sense a crowd behind me but do not look back. I am holding a

bow and arrow but it is one of those toy kinds, plastic fake wood, a

string that can never be pulled taut and arrow that has the fake

plastic red feathers. So, as I watch the man I see a spotted

leopard creeping up behind him. The landscape is barren but for the

boulder and I shout a warning of the cat behind him. He turns, sees

the cat, yells at the cat and the cat runs away. Awhile later, I am

walking towards the boulder when I see the leopard coming again. I

am to the end of my platform where the gaurdrails end and I yell to

the man but the cat is running at him top speed. He turns to look

and it seems like the same moment he turns the cat is bounding past

him and towards me. Of course I think, I am the smaller prey and

look at my useless bow and arrow. He is up to the gaurdrail in a

heartbeat but on the other side. All I do is react and lift my leg

to kick his head through the gap in the railing. So, I wake up

intantly with my leg still in the kick position. "

The man seems to be able to defend himself with a shout, and during

this dream you are concerned that the weapon you hold will not work.

When the situation reaches its apex, you use your own power -not the

weapon- to attack. Might this be representative of the IEP meeting

you were talking about in the FF? You may feel unprepared and fairly

defenseless going into the meeting compared to other people?

The dream is demonstrating that if things get nasty, you do have

power within yourself to do what is necessary to defend against

attack, whether that attack be oblique or head on.

" After telling these dreams to a couple people their first questions

to me was what drugs had I took or was I drinking. Nope, nothing,

just plain weirdness. "

I hate when people make statements like this because it discounts

the value and validity of the dreams. Many dreams are just

meaningless nonsense dreams...just the mind sorting through the

jumble of the day, or playing around with ideas. others are dreams

with a purpose, such as erotic dreams, or dreams about upcoming

projects. The dreams that you have had this time around are trying

to tell you something and they should be regarded seriously.

Was the IEP meeting regarding your young son? Because maybe the " Me "

that you saw in the first dream was not " Me " per se, but a symbolic

representation of the knowledge you have of AS which you will need

to use during his IEP. Your inability to jump the fence and

meet " Me " may have been some trepidation you were feeling about

being able to represent that knowledge if necessary at the meeting.

Administrator

[Guest guest]

" In the first, Tom was in my backyard talking to my youngest son,

the yellow and black bumblebees were flying around the Linden tree,

with it's small pale yellow flowers and I pulled myself up on the

green front gate as if to jump over it when I saw them back by the

garage. My fence is not green though in reality but silver. I

never got into the backyard in my dream, so never did get to meet

Tom. "

Not sure what this one was about. Forgive me for saying so, but I

cannot remember which son of yours has AS. If it is the youingest,

perhaps you see me as a mentor given the opinions I have expressed

when you were in the Family Forum? Green is a color of spring, so

maybe the dream had something to do with personal growth.

" In the second dream, I'm in a new home, my new home that is

absolutely huge. I am unpacking when I notice movement in the

shadows of the large family room and out from the corner strolls a

large panther colored, that velvetly blue/black, cat. "

This my sound like a non-sequitor, but what sort of things were you

unpacking? This dream is very symbolic.

" The cat has a body the size and shape of a tiger but yet has the

dark panther coloring. "

The familiar " black panther " is not a species, but a genetic

variation that CAN be found in all cats, although it is most

commonly found in leopards and jaguars. It is caused by an excess of

melanin production in the skin and hair follicles, the same coloring

that caused people of African and Autralian Aboriginal, and East

Indian descent to have dark skin. It's absence is what causes our

skin to be mostly white.

White lions, which are NOT deemed to be albino, can be found in

Timbavati. To date, I do not believe there is any record in recent

history of a black lion or a black tiger. The scientific name for

tiger is panthera tigris. The Amur tiger is the biggest of all cats,

and the bigest of the 8 subspecies of tiger (and the five that are

not extinct). That you should dream of this animal is symbolic in a

number of ways.

" Then it's mate comes forward too. I am not afraid nor do I

question why they are in this home. It feels more like their home

than mine. "

This is very telling.

" As I move about I come across two younger cats, not kittens but

like young adults with the same tiger like bodies and heads but

tawny, like lions. They want to frighten me, or play like they are

going to strike but I brush them aside to finish what it is I'm

doing. "

This is also very telling. Having read through the whole synopsis,

it seems to me that the tigers are different aspects of your own

personality that are trying to get in touch with you.

" Later, I am showing this home to my in-laws or my husband's family

who do not resemble his real family at all. They act as though I am

newly married but I know I've been married for many years and have

children. "

Your in-laws as they are represented here are how you perceive them,

not how they actually appear. How they act is a reflection of how

they sometimes make you feel. You know that you are much moremature

in marriage and child-rearing than they give you credit for.

" The kids never make it into the dream. "

That's because you are going to have a symbolic show-down with your

in-laws.

" As I show these people rooms in the house, the adult cats come out

of the shadows again and the visitors are visibly shaken. "

It is because you have shown your true personality to them and they

do not know how to deal with it in light of how they have been

treating you.

" I reassure them that the cats will not harm them but caution them

not to make any sudden movements that may trigger their instinct to

pounce. "

Is this how you wish to be treated when you are with them? And is

this how you would treat them if they treat you according to your

wishes?

" When we enter a long hall, then walk to the furthest room back, I

open the door and there is a huge white bed that covers nearly the

entire room. For some strange reason, I get down on my hands and

knees and look under the bed. There, huddled in the far corner are

a group of scraggley looking people who seem to have been living

under the bed for quite some time. I know for some reason that they

are terrified of the cats, so I motion to them to come out. "

The bed is where the tigers sleep. Beneath the bed are the aspects

of your personality that you do NOT like.

" As they run past me, the female adult makes her move but I grasp

her by the nape and use my body to push her into a side bedroom. "

It's because even though these aspects of your personality are ones

you do not like, you recognize that they are necessary, and so must

still be protected.

" There I sit with her and she is on my lap, like an overgrown child.

As I stroke her plush velvety fur, she turns into a woman with long

black hair, thick black eyelashes and deep red lips. "

Is this an idealized conception of a woman to you? If so, this image

would seem to be a reflection of your best traits and what your

inner self is like, and the dream is symbolic of accepting that you

can allow these potentially dangerous traits to come out and serve a

useful and non-lethal purpose. Your stroking her fur is symbolic of

you coming to terms with this side of you and feeling comfortable

with it. .

" The last dream involves yet another large cat. I am standing on a

large platform of marble with gaurdrails on either side. The rails

look like any silver railing you might see, the kind used to help

those who have stability issues, with two horizontal bars with a

wide gap between them.

" I am looking ahead a large boulder some three hundred yards away

and a man that seems to be using it to hide or shield himself from

me. I sense a crowd behind me but do not look back. I am holding a

bow and arrow but it is one of those toy kinds, plastic fake wood, a

string that can never be pulled taut and arrow that has the fake

plastic red feathers. So, as I watch the man I see a spotted

leopard creeping up behind him. The landscape is barren but for the

boulder and I shout a warning of the cat behind him. He turns, sees

the cat, yells at the cat and the cat runs away. Awhile later, I am

walking towards the boulder when I see the leopard coming again. I

am to the end of my platform where the gaurdrails end and I yell to

the man but the cat is running at him top speed. He turns to look

and it seems like the same moment he turns the cat is bounding past

him and towards me. Of course I think, I am the smaller prey and

look at my useless bow and arrow. He is up to the gaurdrail in a

heartbeat but on the other side. All I do is react and lift my leg

to kick his head through the gap in the railing. So, I wake up

intantly with my leg still in the kick position. "

The man seems to be able to defend himself with a shout, and during

this dream you are concerned that the weapon you hold will not work.

When the situation reaches its apex, you use your own power -not the

weapon- to attack. Might this be representative of the IEP meeting

you were talking about in the FF? You may feel unprepared and fairly

defenseless going into the meeting compared to other people?

The dream is demonstrating that if things get nasty, you do have

power within yourself to do what is necessary to defend against

attack, whether that attack be oblique or head on.

" After telling these dreams to a couple people their first questions

to me was what drugs had I took or was I drinking. Nope, nothing,

just plain weirdness. "

I hate when people make statements like this because it discounts

the value and validity of the dreams. Many dreams are just

meaningless nonsense dreams...just the mind sorting through the

jumble of the day, or playing around with ideas. others are dreams

with a purpose, such as erotic dreams, or dreams about upcoming

projects. The dreams that you have had this time around are trying

to tell you something and they should be regarded seriously.

Was the IEP meeting regarding your young son? Because maybe the " Me "

that you saw in the first dream was not " Me " per se, but a symbolic

representation of the knowledge you have of AS which you will need

to use during his IEP. Your inability to jump the fence and

meet " Me " may have been some trepidation you were feeling about

being able to represent that knowledge if necessary at the meeting.

Administrator

[Guest guest]

> Not sure what this one was about. Forgive me for saying so, but I

> cannot remember which son of yours has AS. If it is the youingest,

> perhaps you see me as a mentor given the opinions I have expressed

> when you were in the Family Forum? Green is a color of spring, so

> maybe the dream had something to do with personal growth.

Yes it was my youngest son whom was speaking to you. You were both

profiled and I did not see your face but knew it was you. I am trying

to grow but also want badly for spring to bring the buds to the trees.

Funny, right now I'm watching a couple of Mourning Doves nesting in my

neighbor's gutter.

> " In the second dream, I'm in a new home, my new home that is

> absolutely huge. I am unpacking when I notice movement in the

> shadows of the large family room and out from the corner strolls a

> large panther colored, that velvetly blue/black, cat. "

>

> This my sound like a non-sequitor, but what sort of things were you

> unpacking? This dream is very symbolic.

A lamp & books and there are very large boxes all around.

> " The cat has a body the size and shape of a tiger but yet has the

> dark panther coloring. "

>

> The familiar " black panther " is not a species, but a genetic

> variation that CAN be found in all cats, although it is most

> commonly found in leopards and jaguars. It is caused by an excess of

> melanin production in the skin and hair follicles, the same coloring

> that caused people of African and Autralian Aboriginal, and East

> Indian descent to have dark skin. It's absence is what causes our

> skin to be mostly white.

That was the strange thing about the cat because I could not see the

regular spots within the coat like on a jaguar. It was very even

colored and the size and head shape did not match the jaguar at all.

> White lions, which are NOT deemed to be albino, can be found in

> Timbavati. To date, I do not believe there is any record in recent

> history of a black lion or a black tiger. The scientific name for

> tiger is panthera tigris. The Amur tiger is the biggest of all cats,

> and the bigest of the 8 subspecies of tiger (and the five that are

> not extinct). That you should dream of this animal is symbolic in a

> number of ways.

Where is Timbavati? I've never looked in to symbolisms in dreams.

Normally I dream about current events in my life and resolve problems

within the dream. I do not often remember dreaming either, so on the

occasion that I do, such as the time I felt my sister's life was in

danger, I acted on it immediately and called her.

> " Then it's mate comes forward too. I am not afraid nor do I

> question why they are in this home. It feels more like their home

> than mine. "

>

> This is very telling.

Why? That the female comes came forward first? Oh I see I said it's

not his or hers. Is that what is telling or that the home belongs to

them?

> " As I move about I come across two younger cats, not kittens but

> like young adults with the same tiger like bodies and heads but

> tawny, like lions. They want to frighten me, or play like they are

> going to strike but I brush them aside to finish what it is I'm

> doing. "

>

> This is also very telling. Having read through the whole synopsis,

> it seems to me that the tigers are different aspects of your own

> personality that are trying to get in touch with you.

In what way?

> " Later, I am showing this home to my in-laws or my husband's family

> who do not resemble his real family at all. They act as though I am

> newly married but I know I've been married for many years and have

> children. "

>

> Your in-laws as they are represented here are how you perceive them,

> not how they actually appear. How they act is a reflection of how

> they sometimes make you feel. You know that you are much moremature

> in marriage and child-rearing than they give you credit for.

That is strange too because my husband's mother, father, birth mother,

and aunt are all passed on. We do not often speak to his nieces and

have not gotten together since their mother passed away. We do not see

his sisters but once every two or three years but he or I will

occasionally talk if they phone.

> " The kids never make it into the dream. "

>

> That's because you are going to have a symbolic show-down with your

> in-laws.

>

> " As I show these people rooms in the house, the adult cats come out

> of the shadows again and the visitors are visibly shaken. "

>

> It is because you have shown your true personality to them and they

> do not know how to deal with it in light of how they have been

> treating you.

Odd again because my husband's sisters have always been very kind. My

huband feels he sacrifices visits with them because in their family it

was normal to just have family pop in from out of town with no notice.

He has always made it clear to them that I need to be forewarned of

upcoming visits. The only one planed was our family to go see them this

summer.

> " I reassure them that the cats will not harm them but caution them

> not to make any sudden movements that may trigger their instinct to

> pounce. "

>

> Is this how you wish to be treated when you are with them? And is

> this how you would treat them if they treat you according to your

> wishes?

No sudden movements would always be appreciated. I hate jumping out of

my skin and become rather grouchy.

> " When we enter a long hall, then walk to the furthest room back, I

> open the door and there is a huge white bed that covers nearly the

> entire room. For some strange reason, I get down on my hands and

> knees and look under the bed. There, huddled in the far corner are

> a group of scraggley looking people who seem to have been living

> under the bed for quite some time. I know for some reason that they

> are terrified of the cats, so I motion to them to come out. "

>

> The bed is where the tigers sleep. Beneath the bed are the aspects

> of your personality that you do NOT like.

No wonder there were sooooo many!

> " As they run past me, the female adult makes her move but I grasp

> her by the nape and use my body to push her into a side bedroom. "

>

> It's because even though these aspects of your personality are ones

> you do not like, you recognize that they are necessary, and so must

> still be protected.

At least I'm good to myself in my dreams.

> " There I sit with her and she is on my lap, like an overgrown child.

> As I stroke her plush velvety fur, she turns into a woman with long

> black hair, thick black eyelashes and deep red lips. "

>

> Is this an idealized conception of a woman to you? If so, this image

> would seem to be a reflection of your best traits and what your

> inner self is like, and the dream is symbolic of accepting that you

> can allow these potentially dangerous traits to come out and serve a

> useful and non-lethal purpose. Your stroking her fur is symbolic of

> you coming to terms with this side of you and feeling comfortable

> with it. .

The feel of the fur was so soft but the woman's hair was coarse and I

took my hand off at once. My ideal woman? I perfer the natural look

myself. Hmmmm.

>

> " The last dream involves yet another large cat. I am standing on a

> large platform of marble with gaurdrails on either side. The rails

> look like any silver railing you might see, the kind used to help

> those who have stability issues, with two horizontal bars with a

> wide gap between them.

>

> " I am looking ahead a large boulder some three hundred yards away

> and a man that seems to be using it to hide or shield himself from

> me. I sense a crowd behind me but do not look back. I am holding a

> bow and arrow but it is one of those toy kinds, plastic fake wood, a

> string that can never be pulled taut and arrow that has the fake

> plastic red feathers. So, as I watch the man I see a spotted

> leopard creeping up behind him. The landscape is barren but for the

> boulder and I shout a warning of the cat behind him. He turns, sees

> the cat, yells at the cat and the cat runs away. Awhile later, I am

> walking towards the boulder when I see the leopard coming again. I

> am to the end of my platform where the gaurdrails end and I yell to

> the man but the cat is running at him top speed. He turns to look

> and it seems like the same moment he turns the cat is bounding past

> him and towards me. Of course I think, I am the smaller prey and

> look at my useless bow and arrow. He is up to the gaurdrail in a

> heartbeat but on the other side. All I do is react and lift my leg

> to kick his head through the gap in the railing. So, I wake up

> intantly with my leg still in the kick position. "

>

> The man seems to be able to defend himself with a shout, and during

> this dream you are concerned that the weapon you hold will not work.

> When the situation reaches its apex, you use your own power -not the

> weapon- to attack. Might this be representative of the IEP meeting

> you were talking about in the FF? You may feel unprepared and fairly

> defenseless going into the meeting compared to other people?

>

> The dream is demonstrating that if things get nasty, you do have

> power within yourself to do what is necessary to defend against

> attack, whether that attack be oblique or head on.

>

> " After telling these dreams to a couple people their first questions

> to me was what drugs had I took or was I drinking. Nope, nothing,

> just plain weirdness. "

>

> I hate when people make statements like this because it discounts

> the value and validity of the dreams. Many dreams are just

> meaningless nonsense dreams...just the mind sorting through the

> jumble of the day, or playing around with ideas. others are dreams

> with a purpose, such as erotic dreams, or dreams about upcoming

> projects. The dreams that you have had this time around are trying

> to tell you something and they should be regarded seriously.

>

> Was the IEP meeting regarding your young son? Because maybe the " Me "

> that you saw in the first dream was not " Me " per se, but a symbolic

> representation of the knowledge you have of AS which you will need

> to use during his IEP. Your inability to jump the fence and

> meet " Me " may have been some trepidation you were feeling about

> being able to represent that knowledge if necessary at the meeting.

I'm off to the IEP right now.

Kim

[Guest guest]

> Not sure what this one was about. Forgive me for saying so, but I

> cannot remember which son of yours has AS. If it is the youingest,

> perhaps you see me as a mentor given the opinions I have expressed

> when you were in the Family Forum? Green is a color of spring, so

> maybe the dream had something to do with personal growth.

Yes it was my youngest son whom was speaking to you. You were both

profiled and I did not see your face but knew it was you. I am trying

to grow but also want badly for spring to bring the buds to the trees.

Funny, right now I'm watching a couple of Mourning Doves nesting in my

neighbor's gutter.

> " In the second dream, I'm in a new home, my new home that is

> absolutely huge. I am unpacking when I notice movement in the

> shadows of the large family room and out from the corner strolls a

> large panther colored, that velvetly blue/black, cat. "

>

> This my sound like a non-sequitor, but what sort of things were you

> unpacking? This dream is very symbolic.

A lamp & books and there are very large boxes all around.

> " The cat has a body the size and shape of a tiger but yet has the

> dark panther coloring. "

>

> The familiar " black panther " is not a species, but a genetic

> variation that CAN be found in all cats, although it is most

> commonly found in leopards and jaguars. It is caused by an excess of

> melanin production in the skin and hair follicles, the same coloring

> that caused people of African and Autralian Aboriginal, and East

> Indian descent to have dark skin. It's absence is what causes our

> skin to be mostly white.

That was the strange thing about the cat because I could not see the

regular spots within the coat like on a jaguar. It was very even

colored and the size and head shape did not match the jaguar at all.

> White lions, which are NOT deemed to be albino, can be found in

> Timbavati. To date, I do not believe there is any record in recent

> history of a black lion or a black tiger. The scientific name for

> tiger is panthera tigris. The Amur tiger is the biggest of all cats,

> and the bigest of the 8 subspecies of tiger (and the five that are

> not extinct). That you should dream of this animal is symbolic in a

> number of ways.

Where is Timbavati? I've never looked in to symbolisms in dreams.

Normally I dream about current events in my life and resolve problems

within the dream. I do not often remember dreaming either, so on the

occasion that I do, such as the time I felt my sister's life was in

danger, I acted on it immediately and called her.

> " Then it's mate comes forward too. I am not afraid nor do I

> question why they are in this home. It feels more like their home

> than mine. "

>

> This is very telling.

Why? That the female comes came forward first? Oh I see I said it's

not his or hers. Is that what is telling or that the home belongs to

them?

> " As I move about I come across two younger cats, not kittens but

> like young adults with the same tiger like bodies and heads but

> tawny, like lions. They want to frighten me, or play like they are

> going to strike but I brush them aside to finish what it is I'm

> doing. "

>

> This is also very telling. Having read through the whole synopsis,

> it seems to me that the tigers are different aspects of your own

> personality that are trying to get in touch with you.

In what way?

> " Later, I am showing this home to my in-laws or my husband's family

> who do not resemble his real family at all. They act as though I am

> newly married but I know I've been married for many years and have

> children. "

>

> Your in-laws as they are represented here are how you perceive them,

> not how they actually appear. How they act is a reflection of how

> they sometimes make you feel. You know that you are much moremature

> in marriage and child-rearing than they give you credit for.

That is strange too because my husband's mother, father, birth mother,

and aunt are all passed on. We do not often speak to his nieces and

have not gotten together since their mother passed away. We do not see

his sisters but once every two or three years but he or I will

occasionally talk if they phone.

> " The kids never make it into the dream. "

>

> That's because you are going to have a symbolic show-down with your

> in-laws.

>

> " As I show these people rooms in the house, the adult cats come out

> of the shadows again and the visitors are visibly shaken. "

>

> It is because you have shown your true personality to them and they

> do not know how to deal with it in light of how they have been

> treating you.

Odd again because my husband's sisters have always been very kind. My

huband feels he sacrifices visits with them because in their family it

was normal to just have family pop in from out of town with no notice.

He has always made it clear to them that I need to be forewarned of

upcoming visits. The only one planed was our family to go see them this

summer.

> " I reassure them that the cats will not harm them but caution them

> not to make any sudden movements that may trigger their instinct to

> pounce. "

>

> Is this how you wish to be treated when you are with them? And is

> this how you would treat them if they treat you according to your

> wishes?

No sudden movements would always be appreciated. I hate jumping out of

my skin and become rather grouchy.

> " When we enter a long hall, then walk to the furthest room back, I

> open the door and there is a huge white bed that covers nearly the

> entire room. For some strange reason, I get down on my hands and

> knees and look under the bed. There, huddled in the far corner are

> a group of scraggley looking people who seem to have been living

> under the bed for quite some time. I know for some reason that they

> are terrified of the cats, so I motion to them to come out. "

>

> The bed is where the tigers sleep. Beneath the bed are the aspects

> of your personality that you do NOT like.

No wonder there were sooooo many!

> " As they run past me, the female adult makes her move but I grasp

> her by the nape and use my body to push her into a side bedroom. "

>

> It's because even though these aspects of your personality are ones

> you do not like, you recognize that they are necessary, and so must

> still be protected.

At least I'm good to myself in my dreams.

> " There I sit with her and she is on my lap, like an overgrown child.

> As I stroke her plush velvety fur, she turns into a woman with long

> black hair, thick black eyelashes and deep red lips. "

>

> Is this an idealized conception of a woman to you? If so, this image

> would seem to be a reflection of your best traits and what your

> inner self is like, and the dream is symbolic of accepting that you

> can allow these potentially dangerous traits to come out and serve a

> useful and non-lethal purpose. Your stroking her fur is symbolic of

> you coming to terms with this side of you and feeling comfortable

> with it. .

The feel of the fur was so soft but the woman's hair was coarse and I

took my hand off at once. My ideal woman? I perfer the natural look

myself. Hmmmm.

>

> " The last dream involves yet another large cat. I am standing on a

> large platform of marble with gaurdrails on either side. The rails

> look like any silver railing you might see, the kind used to help

> those who have stability issues, with two horizontal bars with a

> wide gap between them.

>

> " I am looking ahead a large boulder some three hundred yards away

> and a man that seems to be using it to hide or shield himself from

> me. I sense a crowd behind me but do not look back. I am holding a

> bow and arrow but it is one of those toy kinds, plastic fake wood, a

> string that can never be pulled taut and arrow that has the fake

> plastic red feathers. So, as I watch the man I see a spotted

> leopard creeping up behind him. The landscape is barren but for the

> boulder and I shout a warning of the cat behind him. He turns, sees

> the cat, yells at the cat and the cat runs away. Awhile later, I am

> walking towards the boulder when I see the leopard coming again. I

> am to the end of my platform where the gaurdrails end and I yell to

> the man but the cat is running at him top speed. He turns to look

> and it seems like the same moment he turns the cat is bounding past

> him and towards me. Of course I think, I am the smaller prey and

> look at my useless bow and arrow. He is up to the gaurdrail in a

> heartbeat but on the other side. All I do is react and lift my leg

> to kick his head through the gap in the railing. So, I wake up

> intantly with my leg still in the kick position. "

>

> The man seems to be able to defend himself with a shout, and during

> this dream you are concerned that the weapon you hold will not work.

> When the situation reaches its apex, you use your own power -not the

> weapon- to attack. Might this be representative of the IEP meeting

> you were talking about in the FF? You may feel unprepared and fairly

> defenseless going into the meeting compared to other people?

>

> The dream is demonstrating that if things get nasty, you do have

> power within yourself to do what is necessary to defend against

> attack, whether that attack be oblique or head on.

>

> " After telling these dreams to a couple people their first questions

> to me was what drugs had I took or was I drinking. Nope, nothing,

> just plain weirdness. "

>

> I hate when people make statements like this because it discounts

> the value and validity of the dreams. Many dreams are just

> meaningless nonsense dreams...just the mind sorting through the

> jumble of the day, or playing around with ideas. others are dreams

> with a purpose, such as erotic dreams, or dreams about upcoming

> projects. The dreams that you have had this time around are trying

> to tell you something and they should be regarded seriously.

>

> Was the IEP meeting regarding your young son? Because maybe the " Me "

> that you saw in the first dream was not " Me " per se, but a symbolic

> representation of the knowledge you have of AS which you will need

> to use during his IEP. Your inability to jump the fence and

> meet " Me " may have been some trepidation you were feeling about

> being able to represent that knowledge if necessary at the meeting.

I'm off to the IEP right now.

Kim