Guest guest Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 ....and didn't Raun Kaufman recover through Sonrise alone? he certainly didn't slide back into autism either... imo even if DrG viral theory is correct (I tend to instinctively agree 3/4 with what he says there), there still should be many different ways of reaching that final goal, not only through rx antivirals (although personally if we could do it I would give them a chance!) .... the body is capable of much more on its own, in many cases any treatment that is capable of 'breaking the vicious cycle' of chronic infection will bring one closer to recovery just by making the body less vulnerable... natasa x > > From: Debi fightingautism@... > Subject: Re: ??Is HBOT worth it??? > To: mb12 valtrex > Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 9:49 PM > > > > > > > Have any of you who are seeing improvements with HBOT considered that > a mito cocktail might further the improvements? I'm thinking of the > issue of metal poisoning/mito dysfunction in autism and read > somewhere, though I cannot cite it, the statement that those with > autism require greated mitochondrial oxygen than non-autism. I know > someone who cites HBOT as the single best treatment for his son, but > his son was given a lot of other treatments first. It seems I recall > Dr. Neubrander saying he does not immediately go to HBOT but likes to > take it slow with his patients and build up to the next treatment. > > Also, how many of you who did/did not see improvement know for sure > your MTHFR status of your child? I think it gets so complicated > because I just found my daughter has two heterozygous MTHFR mutations > but some of the literature you read say it's no biggy, some says it's > the worst to ever have, and others say it's no problem unless the > person with the mutations are displaying the issues associated with it. > > Like with recovery. Have any of you ever met the kids who obviously > have autism, but seem to make fast gains in virtually any treatment? I > don't know how to put it into words, they have obvious, severe > problems, but just are not like other kids I've seen where you meet > them at 2 yrs old and just know they are not gonna do well no matter > what the parents try? Maybe I'm picking up on some unknown thing I > cannot finger. Then there are the kids who seem to have no improvement > with biomed but do great with therapies, others who seem to require > biomed to improve on the therapies, and everything in between. > > Debi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 ....and didn't Raun Kaufman recover through Sonrise alone? he certainly didn't slide back into autism either... imo even if DrG viral theory is correct (I tend to instinctively agree 3/4 with what he says there), there still should be many different ways of reaching that final goal, not only through rx antivirals (although personally if we could do it I would give them a chance!) .... the body is capable of much more on its own, in many cases any treatment that is capable of 'breaking the vicious cycle' of chronic infection will bring one closer to recovery just by making the body less vulnerable... natasa x > > From: Debi fightingautism@... > Subject: Re: ??Is HBOT worth it??? > To: mb12 valtrex > Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 9:49 PM > > > > > > > Have any of you who are seeing improvements with HBOT considered that > a mito cocktail might further the improvements? I'm thinking of the > issue of metal poisoning/mito dysfunction in autism and read > somewhere, though I cannot cite it, the statement that those with > autism require greated mitochondrial oxygen than non-autism. I know > someone who cites HBOT as the single best treatment for his son, but > his son was given a lot of other treatments first. It seems I recall > Dr. Neubrander saying he does not immediately go to HBOT but likes to > take it slow with his patients and build up to the next treatment. > > Also, how many of you who did/did not see improvement know for sure > your MTHFR status of your child? I think it gets so complicated > because I just found my daughter has two heterozygous MTHFR mutations > but some of the literature you read say it's no biggy, some says it's > the worst to ever have, and others say it's no problem unless the > person with the mutations are displaying the issues associated with it. > > Like with recovery. Have any of you ever met the kids who obviously > have autism, but seem to make fast gains in virtually any treatment? I > don't know how to put it into words, they have obvious, severe > problems, but just are not like other kids I've seen where you meet > them at 2 yrs old and just know they are not gonna do well no matter > what the parents try? Maybe I'm picking up on some unknown thing I > cannot finger. Then there are the kids who seem to have no improvement > with biomed but do great with therapies, others who seem to require > biomed to improve on the therapies, and everything in between. > > Debi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 ....and didn't Raun Kaufman recover through Sonrise alone? he certainly didn't slide back into autism either... imo even if DrG viral theory is correct (I tend to instinctively agree 3/4 with what he says there), there still should be many different ways of reaching that final goal, not only through rx antivirals (although personally if we could do it I would give them a chance!) .... the body is capable of much more on its own, in many cases any treatment that is capable of 'breaking the vicious cycle' of chronic infection will bring one closer to recovery just by making the body less vulnerable... natasa x > > From: Debi fightingautism@... > Subject: Re: ??Is HBOT worth it??? > To: mb12 valtrex > Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 9:49 PM > > > > > > > Have any of you who are seeing improvements with HBOT considered that > a mito cocktail might further the improvements? I'm thinking of the > issue of metal poisoning/mito dysfunction in autism and read > somewhere, though I cannot cite it, the statement that those with > autism require greated mitochondrial oxygen than non-autism. I know > someone who cites HBOT as the single best treatment for his son, but > his son was given a lot of other treatments first. It seems I recall > Dr. Neubrander saying he does not immediately go to HBOT but likes to > take it slow with his patients and build up to the next treatment. > > Also, how many of you who did/did not see improvement know for sure > your MTHFR status of your child? I think it gets so complicated > because I just found my daughter has two heterozygous MTHFR mutations > but some of the literature you read say it's no biggy, some says it's > the worst to ever have, and others say it's no problem unless the > person with the mutations are displaying the issues associated with it. > > Like with recovery. Have any of you ever met the kids who obviously > have autism, but seem to make fast gains in virtually any treatment? I > don't know how to put it into words, they have obvious, severe > problems, but just are not like other kids I've seen where you meet > them at 2 yrs old and just know they are not gonna do well no matter > what the parents try? Maybe I'm picking up on some unknown thing I > cannot finger. Then there are the kids who seem to have no improvement > with biomed but do great with therapies, others who seem to require > biomed to improve on the therapies, and everything in between. > > Debi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 HBOT was integral to jump start recovery for my son. Last October, our family implemented GF/CF, supplements, anti-fungals, anti- bacterials and HBOT. (I bid on and won a HBOT/DAN Dr. package @ the last DAN conference) We saw a change in my son (5 yrs old) by the 5th dive. Although I was told it was unusual to see improvements in such a short time, I believe that I maximized the benefit by treating the underlying troubles. By the 3rd week, my son who had NO EXPRESSIVE LANGUAGE (he could only repeat labels of objects) looked up from our hotel bed and said " Thank you, Mommy. " I said " For what? " and he ANSWERED " No more tummy owiee. " Not one thing is the magic bullet, but you pump the Autism monster with as many bullets as you can! > > > My very good real life friend has a 7 year old who is now just classified as > speech delayed and I don't know why. He got 40 hours a week of ABA at home > from 2 1/2 to 3 1/2. At 3 1/2 he went to a special ed preschool in the morning > and then got 2 hours a day of ABA at home after school. By the time he > started kindergarten he was in an inclusion class. He is going into 2nd grade and > is still in inclusion but they said they will most likely mainstream him > next year. He is basically indisguisable from his peers. He is flat footed and > has a very odd gait and that would catch your attention way before any of the > tiny quirks he still has. > > They never did a single biomedical intervention and the kid lives on > pierogies, ravioli, gnocchi, pizza, garlic knots and bagels. > > Kerrie > > In a message dated 6/29/2008 5:37:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > Ladyshrink111@... writes: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: _blu_ (mailto:flablows@...) > > > > I've seen a child fully recover with only Verbal Behavior ABA. I've seen > several kids doing very well with no therapy/treatments but they are still > rather young (first graders) - not sure if they will doing as well when they get > older and the dynamics of social skills during teen years kicks in. > > ===>I've heard of these spontaneous recoveries also, never saw one but since > most people are on this and other boards doesn't seem like too many people > hold out much hope for recovery without intervention or in other words, they > would be extremely rare. > > > > > > > > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used? ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 You can LOOK fine from the outside and still be very ill...look at all of us parents who produced this kids with thyroid issues, overworked adrenals, and so many autoimmune issues in our family trees - so many of us area or were functional but not particulary healthy, really, when we had our kids....I think many of the autism kids out htere are the same - varying degrees of functional perhaps, but truly healthy? Stan was/is right...when you wlak into Regional Centers and everywhere else that we go...the coated tongues, the weary faces, the overweight and in certain areas of the body, the red tones under the kin and other hard signs of candida overgrowth, the no history of neurological issues but tons of autoimmune and GI stuff in all the family histories....per Dr. Golberg recovery looks like jumping out of bed, full of energy, proper body weight, good color, HEALTHY...and the bloodwork and brian pics to further validate that outward appearance of good health...it can happen, he swears, but spontaneously...sometimes, but not usually...if the immune system heals then the body will take over and restore that child or adult - it isn;t really spontaneous...it happens step by step and I cannot IMAGINE how it happens in any child or family in the absence of lifestyle and diet changes, at least...andif there are vaccine injuries I think other interventions usually are needed too...I have never met anybody who has met anybody with a kid that simply recovered spontaneously...I have HEARD of people who say they know of kids for who getting rid of gluten and casein was enough...never met those kids though....Di > > > Subject: Re: ??Is HBOT worth it??? > To: mb12 valtrex > Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 9:49 PM > > > Have any of you who are seeing improvements with HBOT considered that > a mito cocktail might further the improvements? I'm thinking of the > issue of metal poisoning/mito dysfunction in autism and read > somewhere, though I cannot cite it, the statement that those with > autism require greated mitochondrial oxygen than non- autism. I know > someone who cites HBOT as the single best treatment for his son, but > his son was given a lot of other treatments first. It seems I recall > Dr. Neubrander saying he does not immediately go to HBOT but likes to > take it slow with his patients and build up to the next treatment. > > Also, how many of you who did/did not see improvement know for sure > your MTHFR status of your child? I think it gets so complicated > because I just found my daughter has two heterozygous MTHFR mutations > but some of the literature you read say it's no biggy, some says it's > the worst to ever have, and others say it's no problem unless the > person with the mutations are displaying the issues associated with it. > > Like with recovery. Have any of you ever met the kids who obviously > have autism, but seem to make fast gains in virtually any treatment? I > don't know how to put it into words, they have obvious, severe > problems, but just are not like other kids I've seen where you meet > them at 2 yrs old and just know they are not gonna do well no matter > what the parents try? Maybe I'm picking up on some unknown thing I > cannot finger. Then there are the kids who seem to have no improvement > with biomed but do great with therapies, others who seem to require > biomed to improve on the therapies, and everything in between. > > Debi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Just want to say, that our DAN!, Dr. Rossignol, IS addressing my kids immune deficiencies, and with RX's... not supplements. It's not fair to lump all DAN!s together in one sweeping statement. Aren't the majority of parents here on this board because their DAN's are treating with Valtrex to address viral issues and therefore help to heal the immune system? Before you put Dr. Goldberg on a pedestal and send hundreds of desperate parents running to him, wait until your children have been under his care for six months or so and you have something positive to report. I think before any of us talk up any new practitioner that we personally come into contact with we should have personal experience to go on.... not said persons personal anecdotes or published works or just testimonials from other parents. Everything except our own personal experiences of our childrens responses to their treatment protocol are just hearsay. > > > > > > > > > > We saw no gains from HBOT> > > > > > > > > > > ??Is HBOT worth it??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just saw my DAN! and my son has PANDAS and there seems to > be > > > > no > > > > > change in him after IVIG..supplements. .she suggested > HBOT..I'd > > > > like > > > > > tohear from others if this is worth the $$$ or just a way to > > > get > > > > folks > > > > > to use her chamber in her office? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I`ve been reading all these post on HBOT For my grandson we did a > 2- > > 3 > > > wk. trial at tour DAN`s office & read studies one study from > > > Congresman Dan Burton saying HBOT was sucessful treatment for > > autism. > > > That study stays with me it was posted on a gov. web page. For my > > > grandson the trial showed us with eye contact, ind. play,ind > > speech, > > > awareness, less stimming all these positives told us we should > buy > > > one. We did 200 dives 1-1 1/2 hr./day doing great also starting > > > valtrex after 1 month of HBOT then testing showed major STREP in > > gut > > > everything only got worse with him we later heard(would love for > > > someone to comment on this)OXYGEN FEEDS STREP now this child > meets > > > all criteria for PANDAS so we have stopped valtrex & HBOT now he > is > > > on zithro waiting apt with Dr, G. > > > I am writing this I think we should be very careful I agree with > > > Kenny some of these Docs are not giving the best guidance. We > found > > > this out to late we are praying Dr. G. can help this little boy. > > > > > > Carole > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Just want to say, that our DAN!, Dr. Rossignol, IS addressing my kids immune deficiencies, and with RX's... not supplements. It's not fair to lump all DAN!s together in one sweeping statement. Aren't the majority of parents here on this board because their DAN's are treating with Valtrex to address viral issues and therefore help to heal the immune system? Before you put Dr. Goldberg on a pedestal and send hundreds of desperate parents running to him, wait until your children have been under his care for six months or so and you have something positive to report. I think before any of us talk up any new practitioner that we personally come into contact with we should have personal experience to go on.... not said persons personal anecdotes or published works or just testimonials from other parents. Everything except our own personal experiences of our childrens responses to their treatment protocol are just hearsay. > > > > > > > > > > We saw no gains from HBOT> > > > > > > > > > > ??Is HBOT worth it??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just saw my DAN! and my son has PANDAS and there seems to > be > > > > no > > > > > change in him after IVIG..supplements. .she suggested > HBOT..I'd > > > > like > > > > > tohear from others if this is worth the $$$ or just a way to > > > get > > > > folks > > > > > to use her chamber in her office? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I`ve been reading all these post on HBOT For my grandson we did a > 2- > > 3 > > > wk. trial at tour DAN`s office & read studies one study from > > > Congresman Dan Burton saying HBOT was sucessful treatment for > > autism. > > > That study stays with me it was posted on a gov. web page. For my > > > grandson the trial showed us with eye contact, ind. play,ind > > speech, > > > awareness, less stimming all these positives told us we should > buy > > > one. We did 200 dives 1-1 1/2 hr./day doing great also starting > > > valtrex after 1 month of HBOT then testing showed major STREP in > > gut > > > everything only got worse with him we later heard(would love for > > > someone to comment on this)OXYGEN FEEDS STREP now this child > meets > > > all criteria for PANDAS so we have stopped valtrex & HBOT now he > is > > > on zithro waiting apt with Dr, G. > > > I am writing this I think we should be very careful I agree with > > > Kenny some of these Docs are not giving the best guidance. We > found > > > this out to late we are praying Dr. G. can help this little boy. > > > > > > Carole > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 It doesn't matter to beating this thing as much as we all would like to think if Goldberg's " diet " is any measure of things believe me! However, it matters in the sense of long term health - it matters in that sense for all of us...I write this almost 80 pounds lighter without stepping in a gym, healing the thyroid, dealing with the yeast, diet changes - and I am far from perfect esp around my period - have made that happen...it all just sort of melted away once certian things went out and esp when certain things came in, like fermented foods and drinks...but GOldberg has kids walk thru the door of his office eating " foods " with no food in them - even things that are harmful per NT - like Jiffy and margarine...NO BUTTER is G's rant...and these kids are rockin...so beating this thing matters more, and tehn nutrition can come on board later is his thing - we have thier lifetimes to instill those habits and fix and restore their bodies, but to deal with the virus and viruses causing the disease that most of us are seeing in these kids...no such window for error as it gets harder as they get older and the effets of this disese have more time to injure their nervous systems, their vital organs, and their development...everything he does is all about anti iflam and anti allergy...margarine isn't even FOOD, and yet kid after kid gets better in his care - better to the eye, bette/normal on bloodwork, better with the scans etc...and they have to stay better for him to conceed they are recovered and the virus isn't just dormant in them....so, I think you must be right that diet can greatly assist the recovery as it did Dtan's kid, but it is not the key to recovery or GOldberg's antiviral approach, done his way, jsut could not work...Di > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ratlenhum@... > > > > > My very good real life friend has a 7 year old who is now just classified as speech delayed and I don't know why. He is basically indisguisable from his peers. He is flat footed and has a very odd gait and that would catch your attention way before any of the tiny quirks he still has. > > They never did a single biomedical intervention and the kid lives on pierogies, ravioli, gnocchi, pizza, garlic knots and bagels. > > ====>Although diet is critical for some kids, the dirty little secret here is that for other kids, diet doesn't appear to matter. Other than large quantities of red dye which made ours hyperactive we never saw any behavior changes depending on what she ate. Didn't matter in the beginning, doesn't appear to matter now. > > She eats well with the occasional junky meal like yesterday at a church picnic where she had pizza, fruit and fruit juice, the best choices out of all the food available, but not great. Here, it's a matter of balance, excellent breakfast/dinner, not so good lunch. > > > > Kerrie > > In a message dated 6/29/2008 5:37:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Ladyshrink111@... writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: blu > > > I've seen a child fully recover with only Verbal Behavior ABA. I've seen several kids doing very well with no therapy/treatments but they are still rather young (first graders) - not sure if they will doing as well when they get older and the dynamics of social skills during teen years kicks in. > > ===>I've heard of these spontaneous recoveries also, never saw one but since most people are on this and other boards doesn't seem like too many people hold out much hope for recovery without intervention or in other words, they would be extremely rare. > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Goldberg would say, fyi, check for unusual viral titers and any signs in his bloodwork, stools, etc of underlying infections...he would not accept the speech delay and she should not either...could be yeast fuzzing him up in the language dept esp with a big yeast feedign diet that could give candida to anybody....but the unusual gate would give him pause and make him worry about a particular virus at work undermining him and prepping that boy's body for a real slide into ill health or autoimmune stuff...Di > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ratlenhum@... > > > > > My very good real life friend has a 7 year old who is now just classified as speech delayed and I don't know why. He is basically indisguisable from his peers. He is flat footed and has a very odd gait and that would catch your attention way before any of the tiny quirks he still has. > > They never did a single biomedical intervention and the kid lives on pierogies, ravioli, gnocchi, pizza, garlic knots and bagels. > > ====>Although diet is critical for some kids, the dirty little secret here is that for other kids, diet doesn't appear to matter. Other than large quantities of red dye which made ours hyperactive we never saw any behavior changes depending on what she ate. Didn't matter in the beginning, doesn't appear to matter now. > > She eats well with the occasional junky meal like yesterday at a church picnic where she had pizza, fruit and fruit juice, the best choices out of all the food available, but not great. Here, it's a matter of balance, excellent breakfast/dinner, not so good lunch. > > > > Kerrie > > In a message dated 6/29/2008 5:37:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Ladyshrink111@... writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: blu > > > I've seen a child fully recover with only Verbal Behavior ABA. I've seen several kids doing very well with no therapy/treatments but they are still rather young (first graders) - not sure if they will doing as well when they get older and the dynamics of social skills during teen years kicks in. > > ===>I've heard of these spontaneous recoveries also, never saw one but since most people are on this and other boards doesn't seem like too many people hold out much hope for recovery without intervention or in other words, they would be extremely rare. > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Hi! I am surprised by the direction the list has been heading as well... I started SCD and Valtrex with my son last December and am now off and looking more into BED and mHBOT (we have also low-dose chelated him for over a year) and I feel like the NIDS - heavy posts are really shifting the tone of the list. I always worry when one treatment or doctor seems to be treated like the authority. Our kids are all so different, so I really appreciate open, multi-sided discussions. I also had the opportunity to meet and spend a few hours chatting with Stan at AutismOne and much of what he thinks seems to be misrepresented by third parties on this list. I don't think it is happening intentionally - we are all just parents who love their kids and want to heal them - but the list seems to be getting off track. My two cents, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Hi! I am surprised by the direction the list has been heading as well... I started SCD and Valtrex with my son last December and am now off and looking more into BED and mHBOT (we have also low-dose chelated him for over a year) and I feel like the NIDS - heavy posts are really shifting the tone of the list. I always worry when one treatment or doctor seems to be treated like the authority. Our kids are all so different, so I really appreciate open, multi-sided discussions. I also had the opportunity to meet and spend a few hours chatting with Stan at AutismOne and much of what he thinks seems to be misrepresented by third parties on this list. I don't think it is happening intentionally - we are all just parents who love their kids and want to heal them - but the list seems to be getting off track. My two cents, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Autism recovery is lucrative for all, doctors included. I'm leery of anyone, whether they have a degree or not, who says they have THE ANSWER. We know that autism is just a term describing symptoms of which the causes are many. Kes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just saw my DAN! and my son has PANDAS and there > seems to > > be > > > no > > > > > > > change in him after IVIG..supplements..she suggested > > HBOT..I'd > > > > > like > > > > > > > tohear from others if this is worth the $$$ or just a > way > > to get > > > > > > folks > > > > > > > to use her chamber in her office? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We did 200 dives of soft chamber mild HBOT 1-1 1/2 > hrs./day > > he was > > > > > > doing great more eye contact, awareness better, skin > color > > good,a > > > > > happy > > > > > > child then started valtrex while doing HBOT he then got > > chronic > > > > > strep > > > > > > (2-3 different kinds of strep in his gut. > > > > > > now he has all symptoms of PANDAS he continued getting > worse > > we > > > > > found > > > > > > out oxygen was feeding the strep so we immediately > stopped. > > Now he > > > > > is > > > > > > on zithro. > > > > > > How many IVIG treatments did he have? I read sometimes > several > > > > > > treatments before seeing positives with some kids. > > > > > > We are staying away from the HBOT while battling strep. > > > > > > Carole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 That is great - I think it seems to work well with the kids who are recovered or mostly so - I have not heard of any horror stories about huge regressions from it with THAT subset of our population. Did you ever do any of the stricter diets with your son like SCD or BED or was GFCF enough in your case? THanks. Di > > > > > > > > > > > > I just saw my DAN! and my son has PANDAS and there seems > to > > be no > > > > > > change in him after IVIG..supplements..she suggested > HBOT..I'd > > > > like > > > > > > tohear from others if this is worth the $$$ or just a way > to > > get > > > > > folks > > > > > > to use her chamber in her office? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We did 200 dives of soft chamber mild HBOT 1-1 1/2 hrs./day > he > > was > > > > > doing great more eye contact, awareness better, skin color > > good,a > > > > happy > > > > > child then started valtrex while doing HBOT he then got > chronic > > > > strep > > > > > (2-3 different kinds of strep in his gut. > > > > > now he has all symptoms of PANDAS he continued getting > worse we > > > > found > > > > > out oxygen was feeding the strep so we immediately stopped. > Now > > he > > > > is > > > > > on zithro. > > > > > How many IVIG treatments did he have? I read sometimes > several > > > > > treatments before seeing positives with some kids. > > > > > We are staying away from the HBOT while battling strep. > > > > > Carole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1526 - Release Date: 6/30/2008 8:43 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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