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It's not always easy cause I know she misses me but I can not allow her disease to corrupt my life or my childrens ..

RE: share> > I saw a story on Dr. Phil about 2 sisters who> were on heroin; I think they were twins. Of course,> Dr. Phil was trying to help them and the story> continued, but I don't recall how it ended. One> sister was pregnant I think and they were living in> cars and doing whatever they had to for the drugs.> > I was fortunate in that, while I did live on> the streets for a short time, I was always smart> enough to get by. You can credit yourself for> everything you did and then can only put their> future in their own hands, which you know.> > > > __________________________________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

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you guys ,, I had to do the same thing with both my children,, my daughter has now been clean almost 11 months, but I had to walk away,, tell her that she could always come home, when she was ready and if she decided not to, that I hoped she'd have a nice life,, it about killed me,, gave me a huge ulcer, but she is home now too,, OUR BOND was too great as well,, and she finally woke up,, just keep praying and then let go kathy przybyla kloth wrote: - I have walked away from family andfriends...I knew we had a bond! just stand firm inyour beliefs!!!!--- elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:> She knows I am here for her but I won't let her take> advantage of me anymore either lol> RE: share>

> I saw a story on Dr. Phil about 2 sisters who> were on heroin; I think they were twins. Of course,> Dr. Phil was trying to help them and the story> continued, but I don't recall how it ended. One> sister was pregnant I think and they were living in> cars and doing whatever they had to for the drugs.> > I was fortunate in that, while I did live on> the streets for a short time, I was always smart> enough to get by. You can credit yourself for> everything you did and then can only put their> future in their own hands, which you know.> > > > __________________________________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Jackie

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you guys ,, I had to do the same thing with both my children,, my daughter has now been clean almost 11 months, but I had to walk away,, tell her that she could always come home, when she was ready and if she decided not to, that I hoped she'd have a nice life,, it about killed me,, gave me a huge ulcer, but she is home now too,, OUR BOND was too great as well,, and she finally woke up,, just keep praying and then let go kathy przybyla kloth wrote: - I have walked away from family andfriends...I knew we had a bond! just stand firm inyour beliefs!!!!--- elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:> She knows I am here for her but I won't let her take> advantage of me anymore either lol> RE: share>

> I saw a story on Dr. Phil about 2 sisters who> were on heroin; I think they were twins. Of course,> Dr. Phil was trying to help them and the story> continued, but I don't recall how it ended. One> sister was pregnant I think and they were living in> cars and doing whatever they had to for the drugs.> > I was fortunate in that, while I did live on> the streets for a short time, I was always smart> enough to get by. You can credit yourself for> everything you did and then can only put their> future in their own hands, which you know.> > > > __________________________________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Jackie

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Yep! We're all in this together!!! Jackie

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just coming to this forum and learning means we are not the same as we were,, we're growing up and learning how to take care of ourselves, you are very right honey! joyceann silva wrote: yes i am also not proud of myself but its ok, that was the past and all we can do is learn from our past, move forward and yes forgive our selves,we are all here now and doing the right thing for each of ourselves,,,,,,,,,,Jackie on <redjaxjm> wrote: Well honey, WE ALL have things we're not too proud of in our past.... you are NOT THAT person now... and remember,, the Good Lord forgives us, so we have to forgive ourselves! Dorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: That’s what I figure – they just didn’t recognize it at that time or I got it after the dx of hep B. Not something I’m proud of, but I was a different person then and God, SO YOUNG!!! From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie onSent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:51 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: share well dorothy, you may have gotten hep c at the same time you were infected with hep b.. many ppl who have those risk's can be infected with both,, just like we know many with HIV have hep c too,, but you're right, we may never know,,, Dorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: I don’t actually know how I got hep C, but I DID get hep B from using IV drugs when I was young….around 1970. I always thought that either hep C existed then and I had it, but they just didn’t know how to test for it or somewhere along the line, I managed to pick it up although I don’t know how. So you’re right……another case of who knows?? No doubt, it was the drugs. Dorothy From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of STEPHANIE COFFEESent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:43

PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: share I found out that i had Hep. C back in April of 2001. I do not know how I got this diease and I have read that the majority of people with this diease do not know how or where they got it from. If anyone wants to share how they got it or how they found out that they have hep c. please share. Jackie Jackie Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Jackie

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just coming to this forum and learning means we are not the same as we were,, we're growing up and learning how to take care of ourselves, you are very right honey! joyceann silva wrote: yes i am also not proud of myself but its ok, that was the past and all we can do is learn from our past, move forward and yes forgive our selves,we are all here now and doing the right thing for each of ourselves,,,,,,,,,,Jackie on <redjaxjm> wrote: Well honey, WE ALL have things we're not too proud of in our past.... you are NOT THAT person now... and remember,, the Good Lord forgives us, so we have to forgive ourselves! Dorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: That’s what I figure – they just didn’t recognize it at that time or I got it after the dx of hep B. Not something I’m proud of, but I was a different person then and God, SO YOUNG!!! From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie onSent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:51 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: share well dorothy, you may have gotten hep c at the same time you were infected with hep b.. many ppl who have those risk's can be infected with both,, just like we know many with HIV have hep c too,, but you're right, we may never know,,, Dorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: I don’t actually know how I got hep C, but I DID get hep B from using IV drugs when I was young….around 1970. I always thought that either hep C existed then and I had it, but they just didn’t know how to test for it or somewhere along the line, I managed to pick it up although I don’t know how. So you’re right……another case of who knows?? No doubt, it was the drugs. Dorothy From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of STEPHANIE COFFEESent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:43

PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: share I found out that i had Hep. C back in April of 2001. I do not know how I got this diease and I have read that the majority of people with this diease do not know how or where they got it from. If anyone wants to share how they got it or how they found out that they have hep c. please share. Jackie Jackie Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Jackie

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WOW,, I WOULD NEVER have worked that hard for that kind of money!!! never,, I value my education too much,, but its the chopshops that do... sad,, Dorothy wrote: You got it……in and out………between $5 to $8 for most regular manicures. Usually Monday to Wednesday specials: manicure and pedicure for $15! From:

Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie onSent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:52 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: share I know what you are talking about,, WE used to call those kind

of shops "Chopshops"... and they charge so little that in order to make a decent living, they have to run them through as fast as possible,,, so there is no way they can keep proper sanitation... In Oregon,, at a chopshop, one could get a NEW FULL SET of Acrylic nails for 20-25 dollars!! We charged 55.00 for the same new set and 25.00 for fills,, my coworker charged 5.00 per nail for repairs too,, I never charged extra for that myself... But I took an hour and a half to apply a NEW set of nails,, and we never used drills,, nor did we ever use MMA which all the chopshops did.. until they made MMA illegal but many shops still use it anyway because of it's ease of application.. I worked in a very 'high class' shop,, even tho Im not a high class girl, lol,, Im not high maintanence, lol,,, our hair cuts

were 35.00 alone, just for a hair cut,, that was in 1996-2000.,.. now I hear they are getting 50.00 for just a hair cut and 150.00 for color and thats without the haircut, lol,, 200.00 for cut and color, wow!!! I know that the owner would NEVER, EVER allow anyone to keep their space anyway BUT very very clean... We rented our spaces but she had total control,, we didnt even have keys so that we could work hours where the shop was closed,, so while that was frustrating for me, cuz sometimes I wanted to work on Mondays ( closed sun and mon).. she ran a tight ship,, but everyone who worked there was successful! Dorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: I think that your extremely high standards are far, far from the norm. In New York, there are nail salons everywhere and they are staffed by Korean ladies that are bused in every morning from the Korean areas of Queens. Most of them don’t speak English except for, “You pick color” and “Cut cuticle?” Most of them I’ve known are lovely, hard working women happy to be in the US. I have no doubt that they are taught proper sanitation in school to get their license, but few are practicing it. And yes, I have been cut during a manicure I’m sad to say. From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of

Jackie onSent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:31 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: share well listen,, I WORKED GIVING Manicures and Pedicures!!! I didnt know I had it either, but because I was also a paramedic, I was very very careful with everyting,, I had disposable instruments that I used ONLY on one person, everything was sterilized and kept separately in an envelope with each clients name on

it... I never cut anyone, we did not use those callus shavers in Oregon , they were illegal,, nor did we trip cuticles like they taught us to do in cosmetology school.. but after I found out I was infected, I was really really scared,, but I also educated myself and realized that just doing someones hands or feet could NOT infect them unless I cut them,, and I never did.. Every manicurists "SHOULD" be using universal precautions when doing nails period,, and if they did, then you did not risk contaminating anyone,, but the problem is that you never know,, you dont know how good each person IS at sanitation... I even sterilzed out the pedi bath inbetween clients,, just to make sure that the water and all the components to the foot bath was very clean,,, I had a

'thing' about that,, lol,, Dorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: That’s the scary part. Manicures are so common today that I can just imagine what has been passed

around. When I was young, no one got a manicure unless it was a special occasion – my first one was for my wedding and I don’t think I ever had another until the last 10 years when nail salons started popping up on every corner. I just did my own nails. Today, most girls won’t be seen without having their nails done and I got into that weekly manicure habit too for a long time – and as we all know, I’ve got HCV. I suppose it was thoughtless to expose others, but I didn’t really think about it ever. Now that I am so much more aware, I would feel awful if I had given someone the virus through something like a manicure! From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie onSent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:47 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: share Hi hon Well I know that I got it from a blood transfusion when I had my first child who is now 29 years old! But you are right, many ppl dont know where they got it from,, I think its not as important to figure where you got it as it is to take care of it,, you know what I mean? lol,, Some folks have NO risk factors, no IV drugs, no snorting drugs, no blood transfusions, no major

surgery, no blood transfusions etc,,, some will never know for sure how they got this,, but it could be simple, like from a manicure or pedicure,, or getting your ears pierced,, anywhere that blood to blood contamination can happen,,, Jackie Jackie Jackie

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WOW,, I WOULD NEVER have worked that hard for that kind of money!!! never,, I value my education too much,, but its the chopshops that do... sad,, Dorothy wrote: You got it……in and out………between $5 to $8 for most regular manicures. Usually Monday to Wednesday specials: manicure and pedicure for $15! From:

Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie onSent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:52 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: share I know what you are talking about,, WE used to call those kind

of shops "Chopshops"... and they charge so little that in order to make a decent living, they have to run them through as fast as possible,,, so there is no way they can keep proper sanitation... In Oregon,, at a chopshop, one could get a NEW FULL SET of Acrylic nails for 20-25 dollars!! We charged 55.00 for the same new set and 25.00 for fills,, my coworker charged 5.00 per nail for repairs too,, I never charged extra for that myself... But I took an hour and a half to apply a NEW set of nails,, and we never used drills,, nor did we ever use MMA which all the chopshops did.. until they made MMA illegal but many shops still use it anyway because of it's ease of application.. I worked in a very 'high class' shop,, even tho Im not a high class girl, lol,, Im not high maintanence, lol,,, our hair cuts

were 35.00 alone, just for a hair cut,, that was in 1996-2000.,.. now I hear they are getting 50.00 for just a hair cut and 150.00 for color and thats without the haircut, lol,, 200.00 for cut and color, wow!!! I know that the owner would NEVER, EVER allow anyone to keep their space anyway BUT very very clean... We rented our spaces but she had total control,, we didnt even have keys so that we could work hours where the shop was closed,, so while that was frustrating for me, cuz sometimes I wanted to work on Mondays ( closed sun and mon).. she ran a tight ship,, but everyone who worked there was successful! Dorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: I think that your extremely high standards are far, far from the norm. In New York, there are nail salons everywhere and they are staffed by Korean ladies that are bused in every morning from the Korean areas of Queens. Most of them don’t speak English except for, “You pick color” and “Cut cuticle?” Most of them I’ve known are lovely, hard working women happy to be in the US. I have no doubt that they are taught proper sanitation in school to get their license, but few are practicing it. And yes, I have been cut during a manicure I’m sad to say. From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of

Jackie onSent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:31 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: share well listen,, I WORKED GIVING Manicures and Pedicures!!! I didnt know I had it either, but because I was also a paramedic, I was very very careful with everyting,, I had disposable instruments that I used ONLY on one person, everything was sterilized and kept separately in an envelope with each clients name on

it... I never cut anyone, we did not use those callus shavers in Oregon , they were illegal,, nor did we trip cuticles like they taught us to do in cosmetology school.. but after I found out I was infected, I was really really scared,, but I also educated myself and realized that just doing someones hands or feet could NOT infect them unless I cut them,, and I never did.. Every manicurists "SHOULD" be using universal precautions when doing nails period,, and if they did, then you did not risk contaminating anyone,, but the problem is that you never know,, you dont know how good each person IS at sanitation... I even sterilzed out the pedi bath inbetween clients,, just to make sure that the water and all the components to the foot bath was very clean,,, I had a

'thing' about that,, lol,, Dorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: That’s the scary part. Manicures are so common today that I can just imagine what has been passed

around. When I was young, no one got a manicure unless it was a special occasion – my first one was for my wedding and I don’t think I ever had another until the last 10 years when nail salons started popping up on every corner. I just did my own nails. Today, most girls won’t be seen without having their nails done and I got into that weekly manicure habit too for a long time – and as we all know, I’ve got HCV. I suppose it was thoughtless to expose others, but I didn’t really think about it ever. Now that I am so much more aware, I would feel awful if I had given someone the virus through something like a manicure! From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie onSent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:47 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: share Hi hon Well I know that I got it from a blood transfusion when I had my first child who is now 29 years old! But you are right, many ppl dont know where they got it from,, I think its not as important to figure where you got it as it is to take care of it,, you know what I mean? lol,, Some folks have NO risk factors, no IV drugs, no snorting drugs, no blood transfusions, no major

surgery, no blood transfusions etc,,, some will never know for sure how they got this,, but it could be simple, like from a manicure or pedicure,, or getting your ears pierced,, anywhere that blood to blood contamination can happen,,, Jackie Jackie Jackie

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That is why I paid cash for my house!!!! Now you are going to say How did you come up with the money for a house. We live in a nice middle class neighborhood. But this house was owned by a man that walked to the beat of a different drummer. And being clean was not one of his fortes. He had 2 huge dogs in this house. And mold was climbing up the walls. Holes kicked in the walls,doors and the sliding glass door was not even on the track. Most of the windows had either cracks in them or just had cardboard over the windows. He didn't like to pay taxes either. This house was fixing to be sold for taxes. His daughter, came and put both of her parents in the nursing home, because they simply could not take care of themselves. She saved the house from the back taxes, but could not bring herself to clean it

up. So we brought it for a steal. We put about twenty thousand into updating it, replacing things like the toliets!! sinks, and so forth. We had to de-mold the house. Took all the carpets out of the house. That was disgusting, full of dog poop and urine. Cleaned out bunches and bunches, of old computers,books piled high as you could go from ever room of the house. One room my daughter's room looks like it might have been a S/M room complete with a mace hanging on the wall. I am not kidding. The back yard was a disaster. Holes from the dogs everywhere. Weeds knee high. Front yard was not much better. It took us about 2 months to get it liveable. But now it is one of the better looking houses on the block. I love weed and feed it is from Ortho. It really made the yard work easy, and the grass grew back so pretty and green. Total cost of Home: 40,000

that is also with all the repairs we did. Course I am lucky I have a husband who can fix almost anything. And Me, I am the one with the decorators touch. Yeah I am lucky. This house will sell now for much,much more. But hubby wants to live in it for one more year. Although Breianna and I have found another fixer upper with 5 acres of land just east of here. We could sell this one, and buy that one for 40,000. And still have enough money to do all the repairs. The house Brei and I are looking at just needs some repairs to the hard wood floors. They need replacing and some bathroom work, My husband is a Plumber and working on his contractors license so we could do it. Anyway, if you watch flip this house, that is basically what we did. We demo'd and then fixed and it is lovely. Love JanetJackie on wrote: thats awesome honey,, Im thrilled for you! Yep, we figured we spent over 51,000.00 on INTEREST alone on our home,, interest!!! for that kind of money, we could have had this house

paid off in 5 years had it all gone to the principal!!! what a rip off!!! Dorothy <dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote: Well, thanks, Jackie!! And I have to share something that brightened my day --- I did my tax return and I am actually

getting a refund from both the feds and NY! Considering I withdrew retirement funds last year and collected unemployment in addition to working for a few months, I thought the taxes and premature IRA distribution penalties would kill me. But my property taxes are ridiculous and for the first time in a way long time, I was able to take a medical deduction due to extensive dental work. While I wish the refunds could be larger, the fact that I’m not PAYING them was a huge relief. I wish each and every one of you’re the very same J From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie onSent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:33 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: share thats great,, and WE thank God that you are still

here too! Jackie "There are souls in this world that have the gift of finding joy everywhere and of leaving it behind them when they go" Frederick Faber

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We sure are!

--- Jackie on wrote:

> Yep! We're all in this together!!!

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It is not easy...but you must watch out for your

children!

--- elizabethnv1 wrote:

> It's not always easy cause I know she misses me but

> I can not allow her disease to corrupt my life or my

> childrens ..

> RE: share

> >

> > I saw a story on Dr. Phil about 2 sisters who

> > were on heroin; I think they were twins. Of

> course,

> > Dr. Phil was trying to help them and the story

> > continued, but I don't recall how it ended. One

> > sister was pregnant I think and they were living

> in

> > cars and doing whatever they had to for the

> drugs.

> >

> > I was fortunate in that, while I did live on

> > the streets for a short time, I was always smart

> > enough to get by. You can credit yourself for

> > everything you did and then can only put their

> > future in their own hands, which you know.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Don’t forget………you

get the added bonus of possible virus or infection for that $15 special!! What

a super value!!

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Jackie on

Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008

12:33 AM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: RE:

share

WOW,, I WOULD NEVER have worked that hard for that

kind of money!!! never,, I value my education too much,, but its the

chopshops that do... sad,,

Dorothy

<dorvoptonline (DOT) net> wrote:

You got it……in and

out………between $5 to $8 for most regular manicures.

Usually Monday to Wednesday specials: manicure and pedicure for $15!

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I think that the whole Woodstock thing has been overly

romanticized. It certainly was a “trip,” but it wasn’t

as pretty as it may look all these years later.

I drove there with a friend and we had

picked up a hitchhiker so he took us through back roads and got us really

pretty close. The NY State Thruway (a major, major highway) had been shut

down & without his help, we probably would never have gotten there at all.

I remember sleeping in the car that night

and waking up at maybe 5 am. I could hear, from about 4 or 5 miles away,

Grace Slick singing – it was awesome.

BUT, I had to go to the bathroom SO

bad. Now my friend, being a guy, could go pee in the bushes, but I was

not about to do that – thinking back, I should have. We walked the

4 or 5 miles to the festival grounds – of course, by now, it had rained

and everything was MUD. I had on Dr. Scholl wood sandals and they

were permanently imbedded with mud in the wood bottoms (should have saved

them!)

When we finally got to where they had rows

and rows of porta potties set up, I had to wait on a long line……all

the while about peeing in my pants……..and when I finally got into

the little potty cubicle, it was so disgusting that I started to gag and came

pretty close to puking.

All I wanted to do was GO HOME. I

think we walked around the festival for several hours and I can’t even

remember what groups I heard. We were out of there that afternoon.

There were a lot of wonderful stories that

came out of Woodstock,

but a lot of tragedies as well. I’m glad I fell closer to the

wonderful than the tragic!

Dorothy

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Janet

Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008

7:35 AM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: RE:

share

Dort you were at Woodstock!!

Now I must say that is awesome!!

Sorry guys but it is way cool. Imagine getting to hear some of the

great music artist play.

Aside from all the sex and drugs at Woodstock, the rock and roll must have been

great.

Oh here is a little side note. The kids call my house the hippy house.

Why, I don't know, yeah I do know.

I love colorful things and I have beautiful bright flowing curtains on

my windows. I have wind chimes galore.

I am a bit of a old hippy momma.

I was like a half a second too young to be a real hippie.

But was alive to see it all, just too young to have been there.

Love

Janet

Dorothy

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That’s because there’s a pain

inside her that she’s trying to fix. I think that’s why I

managed to get out of that whole life. I always say that I was a

“product of the 60’s.” I smoked pot, did pills, LSD,

went to Woodstock, and then moved on

to other drugs that were in a different world from the Woodstock

generation. I think I was more caught up in a wave flowing across the

country – and not so much looking to deaden some deep pain.

When it didn’t suit me any

more, I was able to say enough. Of course, it took me a number of years

and a methadone program to do it, but I did it and then got off the methadone

too. I swore that I would never let a drug control my life again.

And I didn’t for many years and now I find myself ill and back on drugs

looking to find a way out. It saddens me too, but it’s different

from the loss of your sisters.

And I think you’re right

– there are people that are happy being junkies,

From: Hepatitis_C_Central

[mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ]

On Behalf Of elizabethnv1

Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008

7:31 PM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: Re:

share

Unfortunately that one sister will never stop because she

has an income from the army and will forever . So she will never know what it's

like to hit rock bottom like many , so she will never have to pull herself up .

She's happy being a junky

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share

I saw a story on Dr. Phil about 2 sisters

who were on heroin; I think they were twins. Of course, Dr. Phil was trying

to help them and the story continued, but I don’t recall how it

ended. One sister was pregnant I think and they were living in cars and

doing whatever they had to for the drugs.

I was fortunate in that, while I

did live on the streets for a short time, I was always smart enough to get

by. You can credit yourself for everything you did and then can

only put their future in their own hands, which you know.

" There are souls in this world that have the gift of finding joy

everywhere and of leaving it behind them when they go "

Frederick Faber

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That’s terrific! I love watching

some of those home shows and A & E’s house shows are great.

Even when my husband was around, he couldn’t

fix much so you’re very lucky! And to be able to see the potential in a

house that others would level is a gift too. More power to you!

Dorothy

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Janet

Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008

8:18 AM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: RE:

share

That is why I paid cash for my house!!!!

Now you are going to say How did you come up with the money for a

house.

We live in a nice middle class neighborhood. But this house was owned

by a man that walked to the beat of a different drummer. And being clean was

not one of his fortes.

He had 2 huge dogs in this house. And mold was climbing up the walls.

Holes kicked in the walls,doors and the sliding glass door was not even on the

track. Most of the windows had either cracks in them or just had cardboard over

the windows. He didn't like to pay taxes either.

This house was fixing to be sold for taxes. His daughter, came and put

both of her parents in the nursing home, because they simply could not take

care of themselves.

She saved the house from the back taxes, but could not bring herself to

clean it up. So we brought it for a steal.

We put about twenty thousand into updating it, replacing things like

the toliets!! sinks, and so forth. We had to de-mold the house. Took all the

carpets out of the house. That was disgusting, full of dog poop and urine.

Cleaned out bunches and bunches, of old computers,books piled high as you could

go from ever room of the house. One room my daughter's room looks like it might

have been a S/M room complete with a mace hanging on the wall. I am not

kidding.

The back yard was a disaster. Holes from the dogs everywhere. Weeds knee

high. Front yard was not much better. It took us about 2 months to get it

liveable. But now it is one of the better looking houses on the block.

I love weed and feed it is from Ortho. It really made the yard work

easy, and the grass grew back so pretty and green.

Total cost of Home: 40,000 that is also with all the repairs we did.

Course I am lucky I have a husband who can fix almost anything. And Me, I am

the one with the decorators touch.

Yeah I am lucky.

This house will sell now for much,much more.

But hubby wants to live in it for one more year. Although Breianna and

I have found another fixer upper with 5 acres of land just east of here. We

could sell this one, and buy that one for 40,000. And still have enough money

to do all the repairs. The house Brei and I are looking at just needs some

repairs to the hard wood floors. They need replacing and some bathroom work, My

husband is a Plumber and working on his contractors license so we could do it.

Anyway, if you watch flip this house, that is basically what we did. We

demo'd and then fixed and it is lovely.

Love

Janet

[Guest guest]

Yeah it is fun. My daughter requested hard wood floors in her room. And they turned out great. And really easy to put in. Yeah, it was awful at first, but by the time we were finished I was very proud of what we had accomplished. I watch A & E too. As well as HGTV and DYI. My next project in the near future is to make a dining room table. I don't know if I want to use oak or maple. Dean has this saw that I am dying to use. I have made furniture before, just for the heck of it. And it really turns out great. Love JanetDorothy wrote: That’s terrific! I love watching some of those home shows and A & E’s house shows are great. Even when my husband was around, he couldn’t fix much so you’re very lucky! And to be able to see the

potential in a house that others would level is a gift too. More power to you! Dorothy From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of JanetSent: Friday, February 08, 2008 8:18 AMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: share That is why I paid cash for my house!!!! Now you are going to

say How did you come up with the money for a house. We live in a nice middle class neighborhood. But this house was owned by a man that walked to the beat of a different drummer. And being clean was not one of his fortes. He had 2 huge dogs in this house. And mold was climbing up the walls. Holes kicked in the walls,doors and the sliding glass door was not even on the track. Most of the windows had either cracks in them or just had cardboard over the windows. He didn't like to pay taxes either. This house was fixing to be sold for taxes. His daughter, came and put both of her parents in the

nursing home, because they simply could not take care of themselves. She saved the house from the back taxes, but could not bring herself to clean it up. So we brought it for a steal. We put about twenty thousand into updating it, replacing things like the toliets!! sinks, and so forth. We had to de-mold the house. Took all the carpets out of the house. That was disgusting, full of dog poop and urine. Cleaned out bunches and bunches, of old computers,books piled high as you could go from ever room of the house. One room my daughter's room looks like it might have been a S/M room complete with a mace hanging on the wall. I am not kidding. The back yard was a disaster. Holes from the dogs everywhere. Weeds knee high. Front yard was not much better. It took us about 2 months to get it liveable. But now it is one of the better looking houses on the block. I love weed and feed it is from Ortho. It really made the yard work easy, and the grass grew back so pretty and green. Total cost of Home: 40,000 that is also with all the repairs we did. Course I am lucky I have a husband who can fix almost anything. And Me, I am the one with the decorators touch. Yeah I am lucky.

This house will sell now for much,much more. But hubby wants to live in it for one more year. Although Breianna and I have found another fixer upper with 5 acres of land just east of here. We could sell this one, and buy that one for 40,000. And still have enough money to do all the repairs. The house Brei and I are looking at just needs some repairs to the hard wood floors. They need replacing and some bathroom work, My husband is a Plumber and working on his contractors license so we could do it. Anyway, if you watch flip this house, that is basically what we did. We demo'd and then fixed and

it is lovely. Love Janet "There are souls in this world that have the gift of finding joy everywhere and of leaving it behind them when they go" Frederick Faber

[Guest guest]

I started removing the old wallpaper in my

half bathroom about 6 years ago……….I never finished the

job. The cat’s litter box is in that bathroom so when visitors come, I

tell them that I locked the cat in there one day by accident and she clawed the

walls trying to get out………LOL!!

The worst part is that I don’t even

notice it any more! Too bad you don’t live closer!! J

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of Janet

Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008

9:35 AM

To: Hepatitis_C_Central

Subject: RE:

share

Yeah it is fun.

My daughter requested hard wood floors in her room.

And they turned out great. And really easy to put in.

Yeah, it was awful at first, but by the time we were finished I was

very proud of what we had accomplished.

I watch A & E too. As well as HGTV and DYI.

My next project in the near future is to make a dining room table. I

don't know if I want to use oak or maple.

Dean has this saw that I am dying to use.

I have made furniture before, just for the heck of it. And it really

turns out great.

Love

Janet

[Guest guest]

Girl if I lived closer we would have a ball. Love JanetDorothy wrote: I started removing the old wallpaper in my half bathroom about 6 years ago……….I never finished the job. The cat’s litter box is in that bathroom so when visitors come, I tell them that I locked the cat in there one day by accident and she clawed the walls trying to get

out………LOL!! The worst part is that I don’t even notice it any more! Too bad you don’t live closer!! J From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of JanetSent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:35 AMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: share Yeah it is fun. My daughter requested hard wood floors in her room. And they turned out great. And really easy to put in. Yeah, it was awful at first, but by the time we were finished I was very proud of what we had accomplished. I watch A & E too. As well as HGTV and DYI. My next project in the near future is to make a dining room table. I don't know if I want to use oak or maple. Dean has this saw that I am dying to use. I have made furniture before, just for the heck of it. And it really turns out great. Love Janet "There are souls in this world that have the gift of finding joy everywhere and of leaving it behind them when they go" Frederick Faber

[Guest guest]

hahahaha that's a good one ....

RE: share

I started removing the old wallpaper in my half bathroom about 6 years ago……….I never finished the job. The cat’s litter box is in that bathroom so when visitors come, I tell them that I locked the cat in there one day by accident and she clawed the walls trying to get out………LOL!!

The worst part is that I don’t even notice it any more! Too bad you don’t live closer!! J

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of JanetSent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:35 AMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: share

Yeah it is fun.

My daughter requested hard wood floors in her room.

And they turned out great. And really easy to put in.

Yeah, it was awful at first, but by the time we were finished I was very proud of what we had accomplished.

I watch A & E too. As well as HGTV and DYI.

My next project in the near future is to make a dining room table. I don't know if I want to use oak or maple.

Dean has this saw that I am dying to use.

I have made furniture before, just for the heck of it. And it really turns out great.

Love

Janet

[Guest guest]

I have 9 cats and clawed up everything (except the new furniture) , door's , carpets , etc

RE: share

I started removing the old wallpaper in my half bathroom about 6 years ago……….I never finished the job. The cat’s litter box is in that bathroom so when visitors come, I tell them that I locked the cat in there one day by accident and she clawed the walls trying to get out………LOL!!

The worst part is that I don’t even notice it any more! Too bad you don’t live closer!! J

From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of JanetSent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:35 AMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: RE: share

Yeah it is fun.

My daughter requested hard wood floors in her room.

And they turned out great. And really easy to put in.

Yeah, it was awful at first, but by the time we were finished I was very proud of what we had accomplished.

I watch A & E too. As well as HGTV and DYI.

My next project in the near future is to make a dining room table. I don't know if I want to use oak or maple.

Dean has this saw that I am dying to use.

I have made furniture before, just for the heck of it. And it really turns out great.

Love

Janet

[Guest guest]

I've been asked why I don't sue, but who am I gonna sue??? 30 years after the fact??? Just gotta accept what life gives us, I guess. I'm fine most days, til I remember that I have Hep C.....lolSharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: shareI got it from blood too Sharon,, its sad that OUR American Red Cross has infected so many of us but are not held responsible as the red cross IS in other countries.... SHARON CROSBY wrote: I don't really know for sure where I got Hep C, but have never used needles in any way. Had three days of transfusions in 1976 before having a hysterectomy, so I figure that 's where it came from. I didn't know it til 1999, was just mysteriously sick a lot. I treated in 2000 and relapsed and have now been out of tx for almost 6 months for the second time. Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Jackie

[Guest guest]

I've been asked why I don't sue, but who am I gonna sue??? 30 years after the fact??? Just gotta accept what life gives us, I guess. I'm fine most days, til I remember that I have Hep C.....lolSharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: shareI got it from blood too Sharon,, its sad that OUR American Red Cross has infected so many of us but are not held responsible as the red cross IS in other countries.... SHARON CROSBY wrote: I don't really know for sure where I got Hep C, but have never used needles in any way. Had three days of transfusions in 1976 before having a hysterectomy, so I figure that 's where it came from. I didn't know it til 1999, was just mysteriously sick a lot. I treated in 2000 and relapsed and have now been out of tx for almost 6 months for the second time. Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson Jackie

[Guest guest]

He comes by it honestly, a long line of aa folks in his father's line, including his father and a half brother who was raised far away from it all.Dan's 45 now, it just doesn't get easier for a parent. My other 3 are wonderful, so all is not bad news.Sharon in NW WashingtonAll I have seen teaches me to trust in the Creator for all that I have not seen. Ralph Waldo Emerson RE: share> > That is so sad, , that so many in your> family would have the virus> and for different reasons. I'm sorry for the loss> of your brother and I> hope that your sisters are well.> > Dorothy> > > > __________________________________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

[Guest guest]

thanks sharon, but it is true, something happens and you realize wow

i just cant do this anymore, and you see things from a totally new

outlook, my family has told me things that i cant belive i did, but i

did it and i was like i did wow i dont tremeber that,,,,its awfull i

wish my mother was here to see how good i am doing when i think of

booze and drugs it makes me wonder why? why did i do what i did? what

were the reasons for my behavior,was i that unhappy???but it doesnt

matter what excuses or reasons i come up with its all related some

how to a pain,and the pain that we cause our poor families why they

are watching us the users suffering, i can still see my mother crying

for me but she did teach me never to give up and her words never let

anyone step on yr toes,,,,,my heart goes out to you and yr son, a hug

and i love you does matter i still remeber my mother hugging me as i

cryed,,,,,wow heavy stuff

> mike you arent a minorty, my story is a little similar in

ways, ill try and keep it short, my xhusband was a heroin iv drug

user i wasnt, he was diagnosed in 1985 and that was it nothing was

said then by the dr etc,,,,,strange but true, didnt really think of

it i was a alcoholic myself but not doing iv drugs, i was divorced in

1997 and at this point he wasnt doing anything about his hep c and

again wasnt really told to,and i just continued to drink and have sex

and progressed to snorting coke and smoking it, never knew that hep c

could be transmitted thru a rolled up dollar in yr nose,,,,i was

diagnosed in the 90's myself and didnt tk it serious, didnt care

etc,,,,,,,,and basically a few years ago i stopped partying and thats

when this all came to light i wanted to treat but money was allways a

issue i even went away for 6 monthsthis past year i learned so much

and made changes as in taking care of my dad i knew i couldnt care

for a 87 yr old man and bath him etc,,,and do my treatment so he is

in home now down the street for me, ive taken the measures i needed

to tk, to make sure i treat and got free meds thru pegassist roche

pharmacetiucal etc,,,,,,and here i am today, week 5 tomorow , i hate

booze and drugs for what i allowed it to do for me and i have

beggining stages cirrohsis so, mike never feel alone or different or

the minorty love joyce

> _._,___

>

[Guest guest]

thanks sharon, but it is true, something happens and you realize wow

i just cant do this anymore, and you see things from a totally new

outlook, my family has told me things that i cant belive i did, but i

did it and i was like i did wow i dont tremeber that,,,,its awfull i

wish my mother was here to see how good i am doing when i think of

booze and drugs it makes me wonder why? why did i do what i did? what

were the reasons for my behavior,was i that unhappy???but it doesnt

matter what excuses or reasons i come up with its all related some

how to a pain,and the pain that we cause our poor families why they

are watching us the users suffering, i can still see my mother crying

for me but she did teach me never to give up and her words never let

anyone step on yr toes,,,,,my heart goes out to you and yr son, a hug

and i love you does matter i still remeber my mother hugging me as i

cryed,,,,,wow heavy stuff

> mike you arent a minorty, my story is a little similar in

ways, ill try and keep it short, my xhusband was a heroin iv drug

user i wasnt, he was diagnosed in 1985 and that was it nothing was

said then by the dr etc,,,,,strange but true, didnt really think of

it i was a alcoholic myself but not doing iv drugs, i was divorced in

1997 and at this point he wasnt doing anything about his hep c and

again wasnt really told to,and i just continued to drink and have sex

and progressed to snorting coke and smoking it, never knew that hep c

could be transmitted thru a rolled up dollar in yr nose,,,,i was

diagnosed in the 90's myself and didnt tk it serious, didnt care

etc,,,,,,,,and basically a few years ago i stopped partying and thats

when this all came to light i wanted to treat but money was allways a

issue i even went away for 6 monthsthis past year i learned so much

and made changes as in taking care of my dad i knew i couldnt care

for a 87 yr old man and bath him etc,,,and do my treatment so he is

in home now down the street for me, ive taken the measures i needed

to tk, to make sure i treat and got free meds thru pegassist roche

pharmacetiucal etc,,,,,,and here i am today, week 5 tomorow , i hate

booze and drugs for what i allowed it to do for me and i have

beggining stages cirrohsis so, mike never feel alone or different or

the minorty love joyce

> _._,___

>