Re: Workman's comp start up

[Guest guest]

Jen,

My experience is limited, and in California, but here it is:

I take worker’s comp for my existing patients only (I’m not

signed up with any company to be their work’s comp provider). In CA a patient

can fill out a form saying they want to use their own doctor (in advance of an

injury). I’ve had a few patients bring this form to me to also sign so they

can return it to their employer. I haven’t had enough experience with injuries

since opening solo (and seeing the checks come in) to say how worthwhile it is financially,

but it is a nice service to provide for my patients. I do a

membership/subscription practice.

Sharon

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of jenlynwallace

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:57 PM

To:

Subject: Workman's comp start up

One of my patients just got injured on the job.

I haven't been working

with WC, but now I'm wondering if I should. How long does it take to

get set up? What hoops do I need to jump through? How's the

reimbursement--worth it? What are your feelings--should I go through

this process for one patient or overall not worth the effort? BTW, I

practice in Oregon, if it's a state-specific thing.

Thanks for any insight

Jen Wallace

[Guest guest]

Jen,

My experience is limited, and in California, but here it is:

I take worker’s comp for my existing patients only (I’m not

signed up with any company to be their work’s comp provider). In CA a patient

can fill out a form saying they want to use their own doctor (in advance of an

injury). I’ve had a few patients bring this form to me to also sign so they

can return it to their employer. I haven’t had enough experience with injuries

since opening solo (and seeing the checks come in) to say how worthwhile it is financially,

but it is a nice service to provide for my patients. I do a

membership/subscription practice.

Sharon

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of jenlynwallace

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:57 PM

To:

Subject: Workman's comp start up

One of my patients just got injured on the job.

I haven't been working

with WC, but now I'm wondering if I should. How long does it take to

get set up? What hoops do I need to jump through? How's the

reimbursement--worth it? What are your feelings--should I go through

this process for one patient or overall not worth the effort? BTW, I

practice in Oregon, if it's a state-specific thing.

Thanks for any insight

Jen Wallace

[Guest guest]

Jen,

My experience is limited, and in California, but here it is:

I take worker’s comp for my existing patients only (I’m not

signed up with any company to be their work’s comp provider). In CA a patient

can fill out a form saying they want to use their own doctor (in advance of an

injury). I’ve had a few patients bring this form to me to also sign so they

can return it to their employer. I haven’t had enough experience with injuries

since opening solo (and seeing the checks come in) to say how worthwhile it is financially,

but it is a nice service to provide for my patients. I do a

membership/subscription practice.

Sharon

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of jenlynwallace

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:57 PM

To:

Subject: Workman's comp start up

One of my patients just got injured on the job.

I haven't been working

with WC, but now I'm wondering if I should. How long does it take to

get set up? What hoops do I need to jump through? How's the

reimbursement--worth it? What are your feelings--should I go through

this process for one patient or overall not worth the effort? BTW, I

practice in Oregon, if it's a state-specific thing.

Thanks for any insight

Jen Wallace

[Guest guest]

My experience with Workmen's Comp has not been great. For many years, I took Workmen's Comp for my patients only but even that created a lot of paperwork which, at times, continued for years. Eventually, we stopped accepting it. Physicians in Ohio who do Workmen's Comp often have dedicated staff filling out forms.

Subject: RE: Workman's comp start upTo: Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 8:02 PM

Jen,

My experience is limited, and in California, but here it is:

I take worker¢s comp for my existing patients only (I¢m not signed up with any company to be their work¢s comp provider). In CA a patient can fill out a form saying they want to use their own doctor (in advance of an injury). I¢ve had a few patients bring this form to me to also sign so they can return it to their employer. I haven¢t had enough experience with injuries since opening solo (and seeing the checks come in) to say how worthwhile it is financially, but it is a nice service to provide for my patients. I do a membership/subscrip tion practice.

Sharon

From: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:Practiceimp rovement1@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jenlynwallaceSent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:57 PMTo: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) comSubject: [Practiceimprovemen t1] Workman's comp start up

One of my patients just got injured on the job. I haven't been working with WC, but now I'm wondering if I should. How long does it take to get set up? What hoops do I need to jump through? How's the reimbursement- -worth it? What are your feelings--should I go through this process for one patient or overall not worth the effort? BTW, I practice in Oregon, if it's a state-specific thing.Thanks for any insightJen Wallace

[Guest guest]

My experience with Workmen's Comp has not been great. For many years, I took Workmen's Comp for my patients only but even that created a lot of paperwork which, at times, continued for years. Eventually, we stopped accepting it. Physicians in Ohio who do Workmen's Comp often have dedicated staff filling out forms.

Subject: RE: Workman's comp start upTo: Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 8:02 PM

Jen,

My experience is limited, and in California, but here it is:

I take worker¢s comp for my existing patients only (I¢m not signed up with any company to be their work¢s comp provider). In CA a patient can fill out a form saying they want to use their own doctor (in advance of an injury). I¢ve had a few patients bring this form to me to also sign so they can return it to their employer. I haven¢t had enough experience with injuries since opening solo (and seeing the checks come in) to say how worthwhile it is financially, but it is a nice service to provide for my patients. I do a membership/subscrip tion practice.

Sharon

From: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:Practiceimp rovement1@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jenlynwallaceSent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:57 PMTo: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) comSubject: [Practiceimprovemen t1] Workman's comp start up

One of my patients just got injured on the job. I haven't been working with WC, but now I'm wondering if I should. How long does it take to get set up? What hoops do I need to jump through? How's the reimbursement- -worth it? What are your feelings--should I go through this process for one patient or overall not worth the effort? BTW, I practice in Oregon, if it's a state-specific thing.Thanks for any insightJen Wallace

[Guest guest]

My experience with Workmen's Comp has not been great. For many years, I took Workmen's Comp for my patients only but even that created a lot of paperwork which, at times, continued for years. Eventually, we stopped accepting it. Physicians in Ohio who do Workmen's Comp often have dedicated staff filling out forms.

Subject: RE: Workman's comp start upTo: Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 8:02 PM

Jen,

My experience is limited, and in California, but here it is:

I take worker¢s comp for my existing patients only (I¢m not signed up with any company to be their work¢s comp provider). In CA a patient can fill out a form saying they want to use their own doctor (in advance of an injury). I¢ve had a few patients bring this form to me to also sign so they can return it to their employer. I haven¢t had enough experience with injuries since opening solo (and seeing the checks come in) to say how worthwhile it is financially, but it is a nice service to provide for my patients. I do a membership/subscrip tion practice.

Sharon

From: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:Practiceimp rovement1@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jenlynwallaceSent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:57 PMTo: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) comSubject: [Practiceimprovemen t1] Workman's comp start up

One of my patients just got injured on the job. I haven't been working with WC, but now I'm wondering if I should. How long does it take to get set up? What hoops do I need to jump through? How's the reimbursement- -worth it? What are your feelings--should I go through this process for one patient or overall not worth the effort? BTW, I practice in Oregon, if it's a state-specific thing.Thanks for any insightJen Wallace

[Guest guest]

I took Workman’s Comp for 25 years, but stopped it when I

went back to solo. Although it can be a service to patients, I found that

all too often, I got very annoyed with the entire

process, and got to where I stopped enjoying visits with many patients

that I typically enjoyed when they came in for their “usual”

medical problems.

The amount of extra time, extra documentation, and extra forms

to fill out was never adequately compensated, and about half the time I felt

that the patients would have gotten better much faster if they didn’t

have the secondary gains inherent in being covered by Workman’s Comp.

My life is significantly better now that I no longer take Workman’s

Comp.

The other thing that has made my life much better is fairly

rapidly referring out patients injured in MVA’s to physiatrists. The

patients often end up with unnecessary and expensive procedures, but my

relationship with the patient is not hurt by dealing with the secondary

gains, and I am less likely to overprescribe pain medications to them.

dts

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharon

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:02 PM

To:

Subject: RE: Workman's comp start up

Jen,

My experience is limited, and in

California, but here it is:

I take worker’s comp for my

existing patients only (I’m not signed up with any company to be their

work’s comp provider). In CA a patient can fill out a form saying

they want to use their own doctor (in advance of an injury). I’ve

had a few patients bring this form to me to also sign so they can return it to

their employer. I haven’t had enough experience with injuries since

opening solo (and seeing the checks come in) to say how worthwhile it is

financially, but it is a nice service to provide for my patients. I

do a membership/subscription practice.

Sharon

From:

[mailto: ]

On Behalf Of jenlynwallace

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:57 PM

To:

Subject: Workman's comp start up

One of my patients just got injured on the job. I haven't been working

with WC, but now I'm wondering if I should. How long does it take to

get set up? What hoops do I need to jump through? How's the

reimbursement--worth it? What are your feelings--should I go through

this process for one patient or overall not worth the effort? BTW, I

practice in Oregon, if it's a state-specific thing.

Thanks for any insight

Jen Wallace

[Guest guest]

I took Workman’s Comp for 25 years, but stopped it when I

went back to solo. Although it can be a service to patients, I found that

all too often, I got very annoyed with the entire

process, and got to where I stopped enjoying visits with many patients

that I typically enjoyed when they came in for their “usual”

medical problems.

The amount of extra time, extra documentation, and extra forms

to fill out was never adequately compensated, and about half the time I felt

that the patients would have gotten better much faster if they didn’t

have the secondary gains inherent in being covered by Workman’s Comp.

My life is significantly better now that I no longer take Workman’s

Comp.

The other thing that has made my life much better is fairly

rapidly referring out patients injured in MVA’s to physiatrists. The

patients often end up with unnecessary and expensive procedures, but my

relationship with the patient is not hurt by dealing with the secondary

gains, and I am less likely to overprescribe pain medications to them.

dts

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sharon

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:02 PM

To:

Subject: RE: Workman's comp start up

Jen,

My experience is limited, and in

California, but here it is:

I take worker’s comp for my

existing patients only (I’m not signed up with any company to be their

work’s comp provider). In CA a patient can fill out a form saying

they want to use their own doctor (in advance of an injury). I’ve

had a few patients bring this form to me to also sign so they can return it to

their employer. I haven’t had enough experience with injuries since

opening solo (and seeing the checks come in) to say how worthwhile it is

financially, but it is a nice service to provide for my patients. I

do a membership/subscription practice.

Sharon

From:

[mailto: ]

On Behalf Of jenlynwallace

Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:57 PM

To:

Subject: Workman's comp start up

One of my patients just got injured on the job. I haven't been working

with WC, but now I'm wondering if I should. How long does it take to

get set up? What hoops do I need to jump through? How's the

reimbursement--worth it? What are your feelings--should I go through

this process for one patient or overall not worth the effort? BTW, I

practice in Oregon, if it's a state-specific thing.

Thanks for any insight

Jen Wallace

[Guest guest]

I don't participate in this list but have followed it for a couple of

years. I'm in solo general and occupational medicine practice.

Workman's comp to me is like Medicare. If you participate regularly

and know the ropes it can be well worth your time. However if it is an

occassional encounter then it probably is frustrating and not worth

your time.

Dennis Thrasher, MD,MBA

Sunnyside MediCenter, PC

Tucson, AZ

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> Jen,

> My experience is limited, and in California, but here it is:

> I take worker¢s comp for my existing patients only (I¢m not signed

up with any company to be their work¢s comp provider). In CA a

patient can fill out a form saying they want to use their own doctor

(in advance of an injury). I¢ve had a few patients bring this form to

me to also sign so they can return it to their employer. I haven¢t

had enough experience with injuries since opening solo (and seeing the

checks come in) to say how worthwhile it is financially, but it is a

nice service to provide for my patients. I do a membership/subscrip

tion practice.

> Sharon

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> From: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) com [mailto:Practiceimp

rovement1@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jenlynwallace

> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:57 PM

> To: Practiceimprovement 1yahoogroups (DOT) com

> Subject: [Practiceimprovemen t1] Workman's comp start up

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> One of my patients just got injured on the job. I haven't been working

> with WC, but now I'm wondering if I should. How long does it take to

> get set up? What hoops do I need to jump through? How's the

> reimbursement- -worth it? What are your feelings--should I go through

> this process for one patient or overall not worth the effort? BTW, I

> practice in Oregon, if it's a state-specific thing.

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> Thanks for any insight

> Jen Wallace

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[Guest guest]

Why would she be sorry?I'm near many factories-workcomp is something I've

thought about as well.

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Sent:Thu 12/11/08 4:48 pm

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Subj:Re: Workman's comp start up

If you start doing workman's comp, you'll be sorrrrrrryyyyyy.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:56:33 PM

Subject: Workman's comp start up

One of my patients just got injured on the job.  I haven't been working

with WC, but now I'm wondering if I should.  How long does it take to

get set up?  What hoops do I need to jump through?  How's the

reimbursement--worth it?  What are your feelings--should I go through

this process for one patient or overall not worth the effort?  BTW, I

practice in Oregon, if it's a state-specific thing.

Thanks for any insight

Jen Wallace

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[Guest guest]

If you start doing workman's comp, you'll be sorrrrrrryyyyyy.

To: Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:56:33 PMSubject: Workman's comp start upOne of my patients just got injured on the job. I haven't been working with WC, but now I'm wondering if I should. How long does it take to get set up? What hoops do I need to jump through? How's the reimbursement--worth it? What are your feelings--should I go through this process for one patient or overall not worth the effort? BTW, I practice in Oregon, if it's a state-specific thing.Thanks for any insightJen Wallace------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups

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[Guest guest]

If you start doing workman's comp, you'll be sorrrrrrryyyyyy.

To: Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:56:33 PMSubject: Workman's comp start upOne of my patients just got injured on the job. I haven't been working with WC, but now I'm wondering if I should. How long does it take to get set up? What hoops do I need to jump through? How's the reimbursement--worth it? What are your feelings--should I go through this process for one patient or overall not worth the effort? BTW, I practice in Oregon, if it's a state-specific thing.Thanks for any insightJen Wallace------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups

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[Guest guest]

If you start doing workman's comp, you'll be sorrrrrrryyyyyy.

To: Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 7:56:33 PMSubject: Workman's comp start upOne of my patients just got injured on the job. I haven't been working with WC, but now I'm wondering if I should. How long does it take to get set up? What hoops do I need to jump through? How's the reimbursement--worth it? What are your feelings--should I go through this process for one patient or overall not worth the effort? BTW, I practice in Oregon, if it's a state-specific thing.Thanks for any insightJen Wallace------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups

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