Re: best services for autistic children

[Guest guest]

I must also add, DON'T MOVE TO NEW YORK!!! I am currently going to hell and

back trying to get my son into an inclusion classroom, and all they want to

do is seclude him in a class of 6 children that are non-verbal, and much

lower functioning, which I feel he will not progress at all in that type of a

classroom setting! My son is high functioning, more like Aspergers, and it is

pure hell over here right now!! I am having a hearing for him in a few weeks,

since I had to file for one to get him what I feels he deserves and NEEDS!!!

Also on top of everything, the people that work for the District in my area,

are so NASTY!!! Let's just say, we don't like each other very much!! LOL

I have heard Wisconsin has very good schools and they are very willing to

give you what your child needs. I don't know if this is accurate, but a few

women on my groups have written about Wisconsin being a good place to live if

you have a child with Special Needs.

Had to add my 2 cents on New York!! LOL

Take care,

Vicki mommy to 5.7 years old HFA

[Guest guest]

One thing I will add about the ABA in New York, it is very hard to get!! You

have a decent chance if you fight and ask for it in the classroom, but the

classroom is for low functioning children. I want ABA done at home for

, and that is what I am fighting for also. When I mentioned it at his

IEP meeting in May, they looked at me like I was insane!!! They flat out told

me, they don't give that, and I will never get it!!

Well, we shall see about that!! Let them tell it to my lawyer in a few weeks!!

Sorry, I had to rant again!!

Vicki

[Guest guest]

DO NOT MOVE TO NC!! So many people hear that NC is

the place to live and believe me it's not! Services

here are really bad. Their favorite thing to do with

children with autism is put them in a self-contained

class and teach them " self-help " skills regardless of

their skill level. And of course, PECS is also top on

their list even with kids that are somewhat verbal. I

know a few people who live in NY and there the schools

pay for home-based ABA programs and also provide ABA

in their early intervention preschools. You have to

ask for it - they don't just volunteer it.

--- jrsuellen1952 <jrsuellen1952@...> wrote:

> I am looking for the best state to maybe relocate

> for services

> available for their child with a developmental

> disability. I have

> read about " North Carolina has the best services for

> autistic

> children. I like to know of a school system that

> gives the pre school

> a full day.

> Thanks,

> suellen

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

NY sounds too good to be true. Do they pay for their

own people or can you have a VB program? I could

shoot myself because we moved to Florida from NJ

where they pay for NOTHING over 3 and the pre-school

is terrible!!! My husband had a few job offers in

NY, so I would love an excuse to go back. Is there

anyone who I could speak to about services in NY

(I mean another parent)?

Thanks

--- " m. " <flablows@...> wrote:

> DO NOT MOVE TO NC!! So many people hear that NC is

> the place to live and believe me it's not! Services

> here are really bad. Their favorite thing to do

> with

> children with autism is put them in a self-contained

> class and teach them " self-help " skills regardless

> of

> their skill level. And of course, PECS is also top

> on

> their list even with kids that are somewhat verbal.

> I

> know a few people who live in NY and there the

> schools

> pay for home-based ABA programs and also provide ABA

> in their early intervention preschools. You have to

> ask for it - they don't just volunteer it.

>

>

> --- jrsuellen1952 <jrsuellen1952@...> wrote:

> > I am looking for the best state to maybe relocate

> > for services

> > available for their child with a developmental

> > disability. I have

> > read about " North Carolina has the best services

> for

> > autistic

> > children. I like to know of a school system that

> > gives the pre school

> > a full day.

> > Thanks,

> > suellen

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

NY sounds too good to be true. Do they pay for their

own people or can you have a VB program? I could

shoot myself because we moved to Florida from NJ

where they pay for NOTHING over 3 and the pre-school

is terrible!!! My husband had a few job offers in

NY, so I would love an excuse to go back. Is there

anyone who I could speak to about services in NY

(I mean another parent)?

Thanks

--- " m. " <flablows@...> wrote:

> DO NOT MOVE TO NC!! So many people hear that NC is

> the place to live and believe me it's not! Services

> here are really bad. Their favorite thing to do

> with

> children with autism is put them in a self-contained

> class and teach them " self-help " skills regardless

> of

> their skill level. And of course, PECS is also top

> on

> their list even with kids that are somewhat verbal.

> I

> know a few people who live in NY and there the

> schools

> pay for home-based ABA programs and also provide ABA

> in their early intervention preschools. You have to

> ask for it - they don't just volunteer it.

>

>

> --- jrsuellen1952 <jrsuellen1952@...> wrote:

> > I am looking for the best state to maybe relocate

> > for services

> > available for their child with a developmental

> > disability. I have

> > read about " North Carolina has the best services

> for

> > autistic

> > children. I like to know of a school system that

> > gives the pre school

> > a full day.

> > Thanks,

> > suellen

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I'm going to Cc this email to my friend who lives

in NY and is getting VB paid for at home and has her

son in a VB public preschool - she is really nice but

sometimes it takes her time to respond. If you don't

hear from her soon, let me know.

--- Suzanne Schwarz <sms1069@...> wrote:

> NY sounds too good to be true. Do they pay for

> their

> own people or can you have a VB program? I could

> shoot myself because we moved to Florida from NJ

> where they pay for NOTHING over 3 and the

> pre-school

> is terrible!!! My husband had a few job offers in

> NY, so I would love an excuse to go back. Is there

> anyone who I could speak to about services in NY

> (I mean another parent)?

> Thanks

> --- " m. " <flablows@...> wrote:

> > DO NOT MOVE TO NC!! So many people hear that NC

> is

> > the place to live and believe me it's not!

> Services

> > here are really bad. Their favorite thing to do

> > with

> > children with autism is put them in a

> self-contained

> > class and teach them " self-help " skills regardless

> > of

> > their skill level. And of course, PECS is also

> top

> > on

> > their list even with kids that are somewhat

> verbal.

> > I

> > know a few people who live in NY and there the

> > schools

> > pay for home-based ABA programs and also provide

> ABA

> > in their early intervention preschools. You have

> to

> > ask for it - they don't just volunteer it.

> >

> >

> > --- jrsuellen1952 <jrsuellen1952@...> wrote:

> > > I am looking for the best state to maybe

> relocate

> > > for services

> > > available for their child with a developmental

> > > disability. I have

> > > read about " North Carolina has the best services

> > for

> > > autistic

> > > children. I like to know of a school system that

> > > gives the pre school

> > > a full day.

> > > Thanks,

> > > suellen

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

It's really sad that you have to pay for an attorney

to get an appropriate education for your child. I

know, been there done that. The saddest part is that

your also paying for the schools attorney to fight

your attorney with your taxes. Don't give up though

-go get them mom!

--- BSL1229@... wrote:

> One thing I will add about the ABA in New York, it

> is very hard to get!! You

> have a decent chance if you fight and ask for it in

> the classroom, but the

> classroom is for low functioning children. I want

> ABA done at home for

> , and that is what I am fighting for also.

> When I mentioned it at his

> IEP meeting in May, they looked at me like I was

> insane!!! They flat out told

> me, they don't give that, and I will never get it!!

> Well, we shall see about that!! Let them tell it to

> my lawyer in a few weeks!!

> Sorry, I had to rant again!!

> Vicki

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Move to Wisconsin. Your chances of getting help are better there, but

beware that many others are flooding that state. I lived there for 3 years

and had all my sons ABA paid for, free.

a

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[Guest guest]

Suzanne,

My son is 7 and has received ABA private school and at home after

school for the 3 years and 02-03. It has been with an attorney and

hearings. The few good attorneys are SWAMPED! that means you

have to really work with him! Suppose you win, then you have to

locate the few, hard to find AVB providers that qualify for board

reimbursement. It is the board's responsibility to give you these

providers, it you wait for them your child will turn 30 before they do

it. Lets say you get lucky and find someone that is a good AVB

provider, does not meet the board's requirements, you pay for that

person. Guess what? another hearing to request reimbursement

for this. All cases are different as you are dealing with different

people and different districts. I hope this gives you some idea. I

don't know other states. I know that in NY there are more children

that need services than good attorneys, ABV's, informed pediat,

etc..what you can get depends on many factors, the most

important of which is the type of person that you are. I hope this

helped you, not confuse or discourage you. I like to say it like I

see it. PLease feel free to ask me any other questions. Best of

luck!!

G

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" L. " <rltorres@...>

From: " m. " <flablows@...>

Date sent: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 20:54:23 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: [ ] best services for autistic children

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I'm going to Cc this email to my friend who lives

in NY and is getting VB paid for at home and has her

son in a VB public preschool - she is really nice but

sometimes it takes her time to respond. If you don't

hear from her soon, let me know.

--- Suzanne Schwarz <sms1069@...> wrote:

> NY sounds too good to be true. Do they pay for

> their

> own people or can you have a VB program? I could

> shoot myself because we moved to Florida from NJ

> where they pay for NOTHING over 3 and the

> pre-school

> is terrible!!! My husband had a few job offers in

> NY, so I would love an excuse to go back. Is there

> anyone who I could speak to about services in NY

> (I mean another parent)?

> Thanks

> --- " m. " <flablows@...> wrote:

> > DO NOT MOVE TO NC!! So many people hear that NC

> is

> > the place to live and believe me it's not!

> Services

> > here are really bad. Their favorite thing to do

> > with

> > children with autism is put them in a

> self-contained

> > class and teach them " self-help " skills regardless

> > of

> > their skill level. And of course, PECS is also

> top

> > on

> > their list even with kids that are somewhat

> verbal.

> > I

> > know a few people who live in NY and there the

> > schools

> > pay for home-based ABA programs and also provide

> ABA

> > in their early intervention preschools. You have

> to

> > ask for it - they don't just volunteer it.

> >

> >

> > --- jrsuellen1952 <jrsuellen1952@...> wrote:

> > > I am looking for the best state to maybe

> relocate

> > > for services

> > > available for their child with a developmental

> > > disability. I have

> > > read about " North Carolina has the best services

> > for

> > > autistic

> > > children. I like to know of a school system that

> > > gives the pre school

> > > a full day.

> > > Thanks,

> > > suellen

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

> Move to Wisconsin. Your chances of getting help are better there,

but

> beware that many others are flooding that state. I lived there for

3 years

> and had all my sons ABA paid for, free.

I have also heard good things about Wisconsin.

NC is good if you like TEACCH, because if you want a good TEACCH

program, it will be offered to you without much fight at all. It was

developed in NC after all.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Wisconsin.

I don't live there myself but know a number of people who were ABA

consultants for autistic children there.

It's AAALLLL covered in Wisconsin.

--- In @y..., " jrsuellen1952 " <jrsuellen1952@y...>

wrote:

> I am looking for the best state to maybe relocate for services

> available for their child with a developmental disability. I have

> read about " North Carolina has the best services for autistic

> children. I like to know of a school system that gives the pre

school

> a full day.

> Thanks,

> suellen

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne:

I live in NY - on Long Island. I would be happy to discuss the services my

son is receiving. You can e-mail me at jcperry@...

(' Mom)

Re: [ ] best services for autistic children

> NY sounds too good to be true. Do they pay for their

> own people or can you have a VB program? I could

> shoot myself because we moved to Florida from NJ

> where they pay for NOTHING over 3 and the pre-school

> is terrible!!! My husband had a few job offers in

> NY, so I would love an excuse to go back. Is there

> anyone who I could speak to about services in NY

> (I mean another parent)?

> Thanks

> --- " m. " <flablows@...> wrote:

> > DO NOT MOVE TO NC!! So many people hear that NC is

> > the place to live and believe me it's not! Services

> > here are really bad. Their favorite thing to do

> > with

> > children with autism is put them in a self-contained

> > class and teach them " self-help " skills regardless

> > of

> > their skill level. And of course, PECS is also top

> > on

> > their list even with kids that are somewhat verbal.

> > I

> > know a few people who live in NY and there the

> > schools

> > pay for home-based ABA programs and also provide ABA

> > in their early intervention preschools. You have to

> > ask for it - they don't just volunteer it.

> >

> >

> > --- jrsuellen1952 <jrsuellen1952@...> wrote:

> > > I am looking for the best state to maybe relocate

> > > for services

> > > available for their child with a developmental

> > > disability. I have

> > > read about " North Carolina has the best services

> > for

> > > autistic

> > > children. I like to know of a school system that

> > > gives the pre school

> > > a full day.

> > > Thanks,

> > > suellen

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

I actually found a lawfirm that does probono cases, which is great! I

wouldn't be able to have an attorney if I had to pay. It is very sad all of

the heartache and aggravation that we must endure as parents of children with

disabilites, as if we don't have enough on our plate!! It's not fair that you

have to fight for your child to get the best services possible. The services

should be given, immediately, case closed!!

Thank you for the encouragment, I am definitley out to get them!!LOL

Take care,

Vicki Lowery

[Guest guest]

If you're looking for a new job, I read at Wired.com that Microsoft now

includes services for autistic children in its benefits package. I think

that may be a first.

Lynne

> From: " jrsuellen1952 " <jrsuellen1952@...>

> Reply-

> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 00:36:30 -0000

>

> Subject: [ ] best services for autistic children

>

> I am looking for the best state to maybe relocate for services

> available for their child with a developmental disability. I have

> read about " North Carolina has the best services for autistic

> children. I like to know of a school system that gives the pre school

> a full day.

[Guest guest]

Vicki, where did you find a law firm to do that

Sandy

Noah's Mom

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy, they were referred to me from a parent advocate I was speaking to.

He felt I would be better off with a lawyer handling my hearing, since my

son's case, is a little complex. The name of the lawfirm is New York Lawyers

for the Public Interest.

212-244-4664.

Good Luck,

Vicki Lowery

[Guest guest]

One of my friends works at Microsoft so I had him research it. Yes, Microsoft

now includes services for Autistic children including coverage for ABA, even

though that would be educational rather than medical. I had a hard time

believing that so I got the name of the person who administrates Microsoft's

medical insurance and assures me, Microsoft covers it and that while 2 years

ago, they only covered it to 7 years of age, last year they changed it to 18yrs

of age.

Terri

[ ] best services for autistic children

>

> I am looking for the best state to maybe relocate for services

> available for their child with a developmental disability. I have

> read about " North Carolina has the best services for autistic

> children. I like to know of a school system that gives the pre school

> a full day.