Re: digestive stool analysis-help understanding

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no. i am using acidoph and bifidus, custom probiotics. Do you know what

non-pathogen

means ?

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> you don't want it that high, I have put a therory out there with this line and

probotics

adding it the issues, does your probotics have the strep line in it? does your

child have

tics or OCD issues? does he struggle with strep throat at all? have you ever

had ASO titers

done?

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> On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under microbiology-ADDITIONAL

BACTERIA- my

sons

> test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.

> Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the NP

(non-pathogen)

mean

> something else?

> Is this normal bacterial flora?

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Christel,

I want to make sure I'm understanding this the right way...so your

theory is that even in the " imbalances " section of the stool analysis

report, these bacteria could be causing issues? I know I asked Pam at

Great Plains to explain this section to me because I was concerned,

but she said it was fine. Dr. Mumper never commented on them either.

but... (with diagnosed ASD) has gamma strep at 2+. My other

little guy, Carson (NT, but I think with OCD tendencies galore) has

alpha haemolytic strep at 3+ and I have gamma strep at 4+. We all

have at least some OCD tendencies. Carson's are worse than 's. I

don't think the probios we were using at the time of testing had strep

strains, but I can double check today at the store. was tested

for PANDAS, but was normal. What are ASO titers?

and Levi's story was great. At what point did you feel comfortable

presenting him as recovered? We are pretty sure that would have

his autism diagnosis dropped at this point, but we don't want to do it

until we can also put all of this biomedical junk behind us. I guess

we just don't feel like we're there yet, afraid of a relapse if

something gets messed up biomedically...it's weird that it's a more

difficult decision for us to make than getting the diagnosis in the

first place. Your story was definitely inspiring. I can't wait to

get ours out there...in time

Kari

-- In mb12 valtrex , " Christel King " wrote:

>

> you don't want it that high, I have put a therory out there with

this line and probotics adding it the issues, does your probotics

have the strep line in it? does your child have tics or OCD issues?

does he struggle with strep throat at all? have you ever had ASO

titers done?

>

>

>

>

>

> Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes

> digestive stool analysis-help understanding

>

>

> On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under

microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons

> test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.

> Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the

NP (non-pathogen) mean

> something else?

> Is this normal bacterial flora?

>

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thank you, we have had regression rob us of our gains 2 times, one with a PANDAS flare, another with a GI scope with nitrious oxide (also has a question of strep exposure with it) our ped before both regressions was telling us he no longer qualified as autistic. our state has a mandate of sorts that every 3 years you are reevaluated. we knew he was doing well, they redid his eval and told us he no longer qualified as autistic and was 1 point from teetering with a PDD label or just speech delayed. but due to the regression history and the school notings ect they did go with the PDD so if we had another one instead of scrambleing to get another dx to get services we had it in our pocket if need be. the other thing the news didn't mention was that they lady that removed his label in testing also GAVE Him his label 3 years ago, so this isn't a difference of opion from one person to the next. but the same evaluation person!! making it even cooler. she cried with us as she told us the outcome. needeless to say we were thrilled. are you ok with me shareing your comments below. we are compiling the responces we get from the media for the reporter and for levi's scrap book through autism. but I want to make sure I have permission to share first

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-Just to add: my son has a pos+ ASO titer, and is now being treated for PANDAS.

This

stool test was performed prior to that, and even prior to using probiotics. I

was wondering

about strep IN THE GUT, as I recently read one of Stans files posted by a mom

who cured

her child's PANDAS with Diflucan and two other antifungals. Thats where my head

is at-is

this showing a strain in the gut, and what is non-pathogen?

-- In mb12 valtrex , " karicreehan " wrote:

>

> Christel,

>

> I want to make sure I'm understanding this the right way...so your

> theory is that even in the " imbalances " section of the stool analysis

> report, these bacteria could be causing issues? I know I asked Pam at

> Great Plains to explain this section to me because I was concerned,

> but she said it was fine. Dr. Mumper never commented on them either.

>

> but... (with diagnosed ASD) has gamma strep at 2+. My other

> little guy, Carson (NT, but I think with OCD tendencies galore) has

> alpha haemolytic strep at 3+ and I have gamma strep at 4+. We all

> have at least some OCD tendencies. Carson's are worse than 's. I

> don't think the probios we were using at the time of testing had strep

> strains, but I can double check today at the store. was tested

> for PANDAS, but was normal. What are ASO titers?

>

> and Levi's story was great. At what point did you feel comfortable

> presenting him as recovered? We are pretty sure that would have

> his autism diagnosis dropped at this point, but we don't want to do it

> until we can also put all of this biomedical junk behind us. I guess

> we just don't feel like we're there yet, afraid of a relapse if

> something gets messed up biomedically...it's weird that it's a more

> difficult decision for us to make than getting the diagnosis in the

> first place. Your story was definitely inspiring. I can't wait to

> get ours out there...in time

>

> Kari

>

>

> -- In mb12 valtrex , " Christel King " <christel76@> wrote:

> >

> > you don't want it that high, I have put a therory out there with

> this line and probotics adding it the issues, does your probotics

> have the strep line in it? does your child have tics or OCD issues?

> does he struggle with strep throat at all? have you ever had ASO

> titers done?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> > NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> > Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> > http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> > http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes

> > digestive stool analysis-help understanding

> >

> >

> > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under

> microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons

> > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.

> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the

> NP (non-pathogen) mean

> > something else?

> > Is this normal bacterial flora?

> >

> >

> >

> >

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oh sorry about that, I forgot to answer your questions., I have a therory going that have been testing in a small group of people and feel that i am on to something, I have had many responces now saying they are seeing the same thing, those with gamma strep showing in stool, who are using probotics with strep lines in their probotics and PANDAS and the body misinterpeting the strep stains in the probotics as bad strep and flairing PANDAS episodes and it showing in stool testing at the same time. then they remove the probotics with the strep strain to see it go away on the stool tests and ASO and B antanase (sure I spelled that wrong) correcting themselves. many of these have tried 3 rounds of z pack with no number going down or do OLE to fight (with better success) but found this made the fight easier or not needed, or made the results stick with the change

just a theory but so far testing out well

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digestive stool analysis-help understanding> > > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, undermicrobiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.> Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does theNP (non-pathogen) mean > something else?> Is this normal bacterial flora?> > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date:5/21/2008 7:21 AM>

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-KARI- my son had NP alpha strep 4+ and has tons of OCD and a diagnosis (now) of

PANDAS.

Does your lab say pathogen, non-pathogen ? Do you happen to know what this

means?

I will look for that file.-- In mb12 valtrex , " Christel King "

wrote:

>

> thank you, we have had regression rob us of our gains 2 times, one with a

PANDAS flare,

another with a GI scope with nitrious oxide (also has a question of strep

exposure with it)

our ped before both regressions was telling us he no longer qualified as

autistic. our state

has a mandate of sorts that every 3 years you are reevaluated. we knew he was

doing well,

they redid his eval and told us he no longer qualified as autistic and was 1

point from

teetering with a PDD label or just speech delayed. but due to the regression

history and

the school notings ect they did go with the PDD so if we had another one instead

of

scrambleing to get another dx to get services we had it in our pocket if need

be. the

other thing the news didn't mention was that they lady that removed his label in

testing

also GAVE Him his label 3 years ago, so this isn't a difference of opion from

one person to

the next. but the same evaluation person!! making it even cooler. she cried

with us as she

told us the outcome. needeless to say we were thrilled. are you ok with me

shareing your

comments below. we are compiling the responces we get from the media for the

reporter

and for levi's scrap book through autism. but I want to make sure I have

permission to

share first

>

>

>

> Recovering from Autism is a marathon

> NOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!

> Read more about it on my BLOGs at

> http://www.myspace.com/christelking

> http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes

> digestive stool analysis-help understanding

> >

> >

> > On a Genova Digestive stool analysis, under

> microbiology-ADDITIONAL BACTERIA- my sons

> > test says alpha haemolytic streptococcus, NP 4 +.

> > Does anyone know what this means? Strep in the gut ? Or does the

> NP (non-pathogen) mean

> > something else?

> > Is this normal bacterial flora?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Do you need PANDAS for gamma strep to be a problem? My son has a negative ASO but a +4 gamma strep on stool analysis (and I think it's in his probiotic as well).

Thanks!

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