Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 Regarding Bruner's analysis of verbal behavior, the author writes " " **(Verbal behavior is the type of teaching that we have used with my son to teach language. Anything new, we teach by breaking down language into mands, tacts, intraverbals, etc. to help him comprehend its meaning. (Otherwise, he would not know that a train is something you ride, in addition to identifying " train. " ) He Bruner feels the behaviorist learning theory (known as BF Skinners Verbal Behavior today) is inadequate in explaining language acquisition because it does not address the combinatorial and generative effect of having a syntax that makes the structure of sentences, never heard by the child, possible (123). An example of this, for my son, is when he is ready for bed he says, " And now good night, " a phrase he learned from a video when he was a toddler. (He is now eight.) He does not know how to change the sentence structure to be syntactically appropriate because he has not " heard " it or has not been " taught " it differently. My son is missing that " link " that most children acquire easily. **(Verbal behavior is the type of teaching that we have used with my son to teach language. Anything new, we teach by breaking down language into mands, tacts, intraverbals, etc. to help him comprehend its meaning. (Otherwise, he would not know that a train is something you ride, in addition to identifying " train. " ) He continues to be non-verbal but his receptive language has greatly improved through this type of teaching. I am very interested in researching this further to see if there is a missing link that we can incorporate into an intensive teaching format that may improve his ability to use expressive language efficiently. How do you teach syntax to a child who sees the English language as a foreign language to begin with?) continues to be non-verbal but his receptive language has greatly improved through this type of teaching. I am very interested in researching this further to see if there is a missing link that we can incorporate into an intensive teaching format that may improve his ability to use expressive language efficiently. How do you teach syntax to a child who sees the English language as a foreign language to begin with?) " A different explanation to the problem you describe could be that due to automatic reinforcement (watching the video repeatedly and hearing the phrase " an now good night " ) saying this phrase reinforcing (and since it is automatically reinforced, requires no other reinforcement to continue). However, the individual " words " are not under appropriate stimulus control. I am a bit confused however. You say that your son is non-verbal but he says this phrase? How is he manding? Tacting? Giving intraverbal responses? What is the topography of his response (sign? pecs?) Any of these would be considered " verbal " behaviors so do you mean that he is typically not vocal? Is he able to give echoic responses? I have to assume he has some form of mand behavior or I doubt your consultant would have FFCs included as a goal in his program. If indeed your child is non vocal, you can use " automatic reinforcement " to increase his vocal productions. I'll send a handout on ways to increase vocal productions separately. I've found that children become " generative " (produce their own sentences that have never been taught) after they have generalized mands and tacts under the correct stimulus control. For example, the child is able to request and label a great many objects, actions, adjectives under the correct stimulus control. So for example, because he has been taught to request the action " push " and the object " wagon " , he is able to request " push wagon " even if the only response directly taught had been " push swing " . Or, in the case of tacting, if he has been taught to label a " dog " and taught to label " brown " under a wide variety of stimulus conditions, he is able to label a " brown dog " even if the only two word combination directly taught had been " brown blanket " . The key is to make sure both mands and tacts are taught to fluency under a wide variety of stimulus conditions so that each separate " word " is under the control of the specific attribute of the stimulus. It is definitely more difficult for many children with Autism to " acquire " syntax but this just means that more examples have to be taught before the skills will generalize. In my opinion, it does not " prove " that the verbal behavior account of language acquisition described by Skinner is inadequate. I hope this helps! Vail,MS,CCC/SLP Speech/Language Pathologist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2002 Report Share Posted November 19, 2002 Chomsky spoke about the innatness of the linguistic act considering a normal functioning language organ. Autistic children don't have it. In that case, there's no discution about the theory. ANalyzing skinner's approach, I think he is taking in account differnt functions a child needs to learn a language. For instance, echoic and immitation may help the child analize the rotes he is percieving. I think this is the way we can help a child leave echoic repertoir. Immitating each word individually from the sentence, and linking it to a picture (tact). Other problem autistic children have, is the inhability to get cue validity; that is get the regularities from the chaos. And may be this affect syntax learning. We have to teach them every rule, every structure, every way of interaction. THe more schemas he learn, the better he is able to perform in interaction. As you see, I'm mixing a cognitive approach and behaviorist approach (skinner should be crazy with me jejejeje). It helped me a lot, and I believe it's the best way to help these children na Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 Catania has a nice analogy for noting these distinctions. He describes it as the difference between studying the physiology of language (e.g., its functions) vs. the anatomy of language (e.g., its forms). It was curious that people were arguing that the physiologists shouldn't study physiology and the anatomists shouldn't study anatomy. Of course, there's something interesting about each field of study. However, ideas stemming from Verbal Behavior are consistent with evolutionary theory. There is replication in verbal behavior, there is variation, and there is selection. What sets the occasion for different forms of verbal behavior (verbal behavior can come in a variety of forms), and what strengthens those forms is what has concerned behavior analysts. Looking at grammar and attempting to find structures within individuals that would support grammatical usage has been a concern of many linguists. > Chomsky spoke about the innatness of the linguistic act considering >a normal functioning language organ. Autistic children don't have it. The " it " has not been found in anyone. It is merely a hypothesis. If " it " does not exist in autistic children, then they shouldn't be learning to speak grammatically (which many of them do). It also would seem to indicate that there's not much hope that they can learn (which would be an unfortunate assumption). >In that case, there's no discution about the theory. > ANalyzing skinner's approach, I think he is taking in account differnt functions a child needs to learn a language. For instance, echoic and immitation may help the child analize the rotes he is percieving. I think this is the way we can help a child leave echoic repertoir. Immitating each word individually from the sentence, and linking it to a picture (tact). > Other problem autistic children have, is the inhability to get cue ) validity; that is get the regularities from the chaos. Can you add some further clarification here? >And may be this affect syntax learning. We have to teach them every >rule, every structure, every way of interaction. Children with autism have demonstrated both generalization and the novel coming together of different repertoires. Please see below: Eikeseth, S., & , T. (1992). The development of functional and equivalence classes in high-functioning autistic children: The role of naming. Journal of the Experimental Analysis of Behavior, 58, 123- 133. Brief summary of article Four children, already in the UCLA autism project for at least one year participated. Their ages ranged from 3 years 6 months to 5 years 6 months. Prior to the beginning of this study the children had been taught a variety of skills related to generalized identity matching, generalized imitation of verbal stimuli and expressive naming of visual objects. All children had at least some language and minimal behavioral problems at the time of the study. As well the children's visual-spatial and writing skills were average to above average. Teaching towards functional equivalence classes requires that some but not all of the formal relationships between two or more stimuli sets are taught and skill in responding to the non-trained relationships is assessed. If the skill is present then learning of emergent relationships is said to have occurred. While there are many variations regarding stimulus equivalence the most common example relates to the idea of: If A = B and B = C then A = C You teach A = B and B = C and test to see if the child can correctly respond when you present A = C. The study found that in general the children did better with the untrained relations when they were taught to say the label for each stimulus. Once mastery using named objects occurred success was variable when new unnamed stimuli sets were introduced. Devany, J., , S., & , R. (1986). Equivalence class formation in language-able and language-disabled children. Journal of the Experimental Analysis of Behavior, 46, 243-257 >THe more schemas he learn, the better he is able to perform in interaction. As you see, I'm mixing a cognitive approach and behaviorist approach (skinner should be crazy with me jejejeje). It helped me a lot, and I believe it's the best way to help these children > > na Nothing wrong with exploring the fine work that's been done in various fields. We'll likely get a lot further in our own work if we look at what other professionals have discovered. We should, however, challenge assumptions when we see them being made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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