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Long-term results of triple arthrodesis in Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease. >>

WOW

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<< >Double WOW! ~>Becky M. >>

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>In a message dated 9/4/00 5:41:53 PM, jege6666@... writes:

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>Long-term results of triple arthrodesis in Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease. >>

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>WOW

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>Kat

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>>>>Double WOW! ~>Becky M.

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These results on triple arthrodesis were very eye-opening. It also may help

explain the course of the disease that I witnessed in my sister. She had

this procedure done when she was in her young teens.

Thereafter, she was always the most affected member of the family and had

major problems throughout the rest of her life. I will always wonder now if

the fusion did more harm than good in her case...

Ruth

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> >Long-term results of triple arthrodesis in Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease.

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Joyce,

I feel Alice was probably right.Smoking cannabis probably had nothing to do

with the slow progression.Look at everything that was going on during your

progression you you may find the cause.Meds.,Foods,Stress,Life changes. You

probably will never know,But one thing you must remember.Your nervous system

is different now with the progression and cannabis will effect you different

then it did before.There has been studies in Canada with Cmt international

about cannabis and pain control.It's suppose to work.It mentioned nothing

about stopping progression.June

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>Hi Everyone,Alice,

>

>It still seems to me to be more than a

>coincidence after having progression

>in my teens then smoking cannabis

>(small amounts--not getting blitzed!!)

>for 10 years with no progression at all.

>Then on stopping the cannabis the

>progression was so rapid that people

>around me could see the deterioration

>from week to week. I went from being

>fully mobile and active to being a

>wheelchair user in less than 5 years.

>For 5 of the 10 years I was under

>immense emotional stress, so by

>rights I should have had progression

>but there was none, if anything I had

>less physical symptoms than I did n

>my teens.

>Maybe it was coincidence but I`m not

>convinced!!

>

>Joyce

>

>

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Hi Everyone,Alice,

It still seems to me to be more than a

coincidence after having progression

in my teens then smoking cannabis

(small amounts--not getting blitzed!!)

for 10 years with no progression at all.

Then on stopping the cannabis the

progression was so rapid that people

around me could see the deterioration

from week to week. I went from being

fully mobile and active to being a

wheelchair user in less than 5 years.

For 5 of the 10 years I was under

immense emotional stress, so by

rights I should have had progression

but there was none, if anything I had

less physical symptoms than I did n

my teens.

Maybe it was coincidence but I`m not

convinced!!

Joyce

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In a message dated 11/13/2000 4:36:47 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Pepperbrammer@... writes:

> Im 72 year old Gwen who

> still finds life fun and exciting even with CMT and ageing problems and

> other

> " genetic gifts. " Today I did 30 mins on the treadmill and 1hr. weight

>

WOW I would be so weak after all that I would be crawling to my car..

Thats great that you can do this!

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get this one posted the used to be head of the FDA, Jane Henny here..now we see where she's work'n after GWB fired her. Remember we all wrote Jane Henny to never allow the approval of saline implants, an again we were ignored in favor of McGhan, and Mentor liars who've been toxically poisoning millions for greed! Military included in the scam! Rush for New Drugs Raises Questions About Testing http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/27/business/27FDA.html Overdoses of Painkiller Are Linked to 282 Deaths http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/28/health/28PAIN.html Drug Companies Aim to Please<< next link really tells the truth about the pharma. co's corrupt!=they poisoned us for money, and they are still greedy while anthrax is threatening every person's right to safety, and medication! http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/27/business/27DRUG.html Bayer Halves Price for Cipro, but Rivals Offer Drugs Free<< greedy Baxter & the FDA pampering them, while another pharma. co. will provide the generic cipro free..Grrr FDA & Greedy Baxter who continues to thrive off misery they caused millions, with several faulty products! co conspirators in our gov. agency's, drugs approved that should never be! http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/26/business/26CIPR.html In Shift, Disease Agency Recommends Combinations of Antibiotics for Anthrax Cases http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/26/national/26CDC.html Anthrax Slows the Mail and the Paying of Bills http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/27/business/27BILL.html

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Dear ,

I sympathize with you in the passing of your Father in Law at this time. My prayers are with you for a special, blessed holiday, and I hope that your day tomorrow will be filled with Thanksgiving for the time that God gave you with this man in your life, and for the many other blessings He had bestowed upon you. I know that grieving is healing, too, but above all, find the things to be thankful for and focus on those in this mournful time.

God bless,

Patty

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Real Quick .... I wanted to let you - all know that my Father-In- Law passed away Tuesday morn. at 4:00 AM. Real busy and upset right now but wanted you to say a Prayer for us. Tonight is visitation and Friday at 11:00 AM is the burial. Hope you are having a happier Thanksgiving than we are. Love and Thanks to all of you. I know you are there for me, in this here Computer Somewhere. :-) God Bless America & You! 'LINDA' If silicone was Water ... Would they Drink it? SILICONE SUCKERED! --

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Welcome ,

I am on my way out the door so I cannot answer in depth but will get back with you soon, in the meantime I do think your symptoms sound very similar to allot of mine and others on the board of course, I am not going to say yes that it is your implants, I am also not going to say it is your weight as I once weighed 180 and I am only 5 foot 3 and felt way healthier than I did with implants at 120 so, no not the weight most likely, please read the stories, check the files and the links, see the photos, and ask questions, yes the complications of implants appears much higher in reality than what the Dr's are telling us.

Kolb is on this group, she is an excellent PS and has a great knowledge of these issues, she will write you answer your calls, etc.

Check out her site too at www.plastikos.com

Well gotta run

Welcome to the group and stick with us.

Love,

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From: sjhaavisto@...

Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 10:19 AM

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I have had saline implants for over eight years, with no problems. After researching implants for my girlfriend, I discovered how many women are having complications. I have reviewed their symptoms and realized I have many of the same symptoms. Recently, having severe leg pain in the middle of the night when I get up to let my puppy out to pee. And in the morning, I can hardly walk... But then the pain subsides once I've walked a bit. Can this be caused from my implants. I am 32 years old, 5' 4" and weigh about 173. I know I'm overweight, however, I don't want to blame that for the pain. Along with the pain symptom, I have bouts of nausea, IBS, and foggyness. I am always forgetting things. Recently, I was diagnosed with ADD and now am on Adderal, 5mg twice daily. Please help....

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>OK, we have about 40 or 50 hens laying and another 10-20 roosters strutting.

>How in the world am I supposed to get worms enough to feed them through a

>winter?

I have zero experience with this myself, so I can't say how useful any

suggestions I make will be, but I do understand that vermiculture is a very

space-efficient enterprise. IOW you can build or buy worm farms that will

generate a tremendous number of worms without taking up very much space,

and the worms will eat all sorts of waste your farm already produces and

generate peerless compost. And then your chickens will eat the worms, lay

superb eggs, and give you terrific chicken manure. Etc.

As far as costs and proportions go, though, I'm completely at sea, so for

all I know this isn't practical, but it does seem like something to look into.

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u never know what a person is dealing with.

For example, the woman in my office lost her husband to cancer and is

currently dealing with the imminent death of her son-in-law to cancer as

well. So...it wouldn't be a good comeback to give to her.

__________________

Well, no, that's not a good response, then. We don't want to offend or hurt

anyone. On the lighter side, my husband calls me the garlic queen, just

jokingly, but then I know he's kidding with me.

Guess the best thing that you can to in this case is saying you're just doing

it for your health, which it's the truth of the matter!

Susie-

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Troy,

This was definitely a wake up call for me and a good " push "

for me to let go of my fears of hurting others and realize that in

the end, all is right as rain. I absolutetly have to say that this

post was something I " devoured " in my mind for it was so needed for

me at this moment in my life, dear brother! Thank you so much for

sharing this. I am having some difficulties realizing my power is

mine alone and, yes, some may be hurt in my process of growing and

moving on to a place that I feel more whole but it does not mean I

love them or me any less. You are a gift to this family, Troy and I

thank you again from the bottom of my heart of hearts! Such sage

advice! Love and light, dear!! LUNA---

In , " Troy " <brightspirit@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> ~TRUSTING THE FIRE~

> OWNING YOUR POWER IN THE WORLD

>

>

>

> Why do so many of us have difficulty trusting the fire cycle and

owning our power in the world? What does it mean to be in the fire

and to push on through to the other side?

>

> We travel through many cycles in our lives. Some of these cycles

everyone moves through at specific times, such as the various stages

of life. We all have to deal with youth, maturity and aging. Other

cycles are brought on by individualized life challenges - the death

of a loved one, relationships ending, careers closing, moving from

one location to another, health issues. Some cycles are a result of

our soul coming to the fore of our consciousness and seeking the

deeper meaning of our lives.

>

> The fire cycle, which is most closely related to personal power, is

one of the most difficult to embrace. It requires voluntarily

entering into a period of chaos, of things falling apart, of not

knowing what the outcome will be on the other side of transformation.

It is when we begin the process of letting go and diving into the

truth of a situation or an issue. It is when we take our sword in

hand, cut away the dead wood and turn up the heat. During this time

you will be confronted with your fears as well as your dreams, hopes,

and wishes. You may feel like Frodo in The Lord of the Rings and wish

to return to the comfort and safety of the shire ~ and yet there is a

part of you that knows that true safety lies ahead and not behind.

>

> One reason that many refuse to step into the fire and own their

power is the fear of hurting someone else. It is true that others are

often confused, fearful and angry when our decisions affect them,

especially if it disrupts their comfort zone. This does not mean that

you should stop your journey or postpone it, although the guilt you

may feel may tempt you to abort the change, at least temporarily. In

truth, you cannot quit your journey without grave consequences. It is

said that " That which you bring forth will save you and that which

you do not bring forth will destroy you. " Because our souls are

linked together karmically, our decisions will affect others, and

they are supposed to! We do not need to protect others from the

lessons they need to experience. We can be true to our own lives and

be compassionate ~ not codependent ~ with those whose lives are

intertwined with ours.

>

> When the baby is ready to be born it does not ask permission. Life

does not travel in a neatly packaged box, or a straight line, but

rather in a spiral of cycles and constant transformation. All things

change, from the cells in our bodies to the expanding galaxies, in a

dance of life and death far beyond our imagined control.

>

> So what is our part? When we enter into a conscious fire cycle we

must be willing to let go, and to do our part ~ whatever that is ~ to

change. We must not blame others, or even ourselves, for wrongdoing.

We must, however, become cognizant that we have Goddess/God-Given Co-

Creative powers and can choose to move forward, or to hold back, the

process of change. We can actually stand in the way of creation. It

becomes our responsibility to discover and remove the blocks from our

path and lean into the destiny that is calling us forth.

>

> Nietzsche said, " Unless there is chaos, one cannot give birth to a

dancing star. " Chaos only looks like chaos to the uninitiated soul.

Those who are familiar with change know that what looks like death to

the caterpillar is life to the butterfly. The willingness to enter

the chaos ~ the fire ~ and birth your own power, is often hard won

and only comes after much resistance and suffering. After one has

gone through a fire cycle consciously a few times the resistance can

lessen. Suffering becomes an option. The fire cycle will most likely

never be easy, but with faith it can be a time of grace, excitement,

and embracing passion and dreams. You can begin to experience the

exquisite power of your own soul, as you make change in your life and

become a co-creator with your higher power.

>

> This world has become a place where power is frequently misused.

Perhaps it has always been so upon our earth. This has created an

imbalance between those who are powerful and those who feel

ineffectual in their lives and depend upon others to run the show.

Many people feel wounded around their power and so either reject the

power/fire or misuse their power/fire. Neither course solves the

problem. We were all born to be beautiful and to shine, no matter who

we are. The earth and all her creatures need each and every one of us

to be willing to step into the fires of transformation and to rise up

out of the ashes of our old selves, just as the phoenix does again

and again. If ever there was a time for us to do the conscious work

of transformation and step more fully into the fire to embrace our

power and our true selves, now is that time.

>

> The world was born of fire and so is each decision we make to

change. Make it conscious, step bravely into the fire and embrace

your power. The world needs us to be powerful and wise, now more than

ever.

>

> ~ Star Wolf

>

>

>

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> " Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.

> Without them, humanity cannot survive. "

>

> ~~~His Holiness Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama~~~

>

>

>

> " Love heals everyone . . . both those that receive it and

> those that give it. "

> ~ de Mello S.J.~

>

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