Re: Iran denies confrontation at sea with U.S. Navy

[Guest guest]

Of course they do. But you can bet that if there is a fight, they will be playing the victim in the world media. That is exactly what they want though because it would rally the people at home so they will ignore the collapsing economy and the corruption of the leadership.

In a message dated 4/12/2008 4:46:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_reply writes:

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[Guest guest]

I agree with you. I read an article the other day that talked about the real danger in the stock market. Right now, there are hundreds of companies on the SEC watch list for something called "Short stop trading" or something like that. It is a method of monkeying with the value of a stock. Many of these companies, including many vital to national defense and health care, have been on the list for close to a year and some much longer. However, the SEC budget is too low and the FBI is chasing terrorists mostly, so they are getting away with it.

As for Iraq, it wasn't corruption that got us there, but stupidity. I blame most of that on Carl Rove and a few others. They said the war would be a pushover and didn't wait to bring in those Divisions from Turkey (Turkey refused to allow the US to invade from its lands at the last minute). So, we went in light and didn't have enough troops to secure the peace once we had beaten the Iraqi Army. Thus there were weeks of rioting and it took years to recover. It also allowed Al Sadr to create a "militia" with our blessing and they have given us grief since. Lots more besides, but lots of stupid.

I'm not saying that Iran is right or wrong. I am saying that the logic that one ought not to go after someone who is bigger and stronger is a fallacy of logic. If you can spot your opponent's weaknesses, you can actually defeat your opponent.RavenCo-AdministratorP.S. America isn't ALWAYS doing everything correctly, btw. There are some immoral people in charge of certain departments, detachments, et al and SOMETIMES there is truth to the claim that the American(s) in charge are corrupt.It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance.

[Guest guest]

In general, harassing someone with the capability to fire more stuff

further than you is very ill advised...

[Guest guest]

Well, the same can be said of parents who advocate for their Special

Needs children wherein the School Boards have the capability to fire

more stuff further than the parents. Keep in mind that was

able to defeat Goliath.

I'm not saying that Iran is right or wrong. I am saying that the

logic that one ought not to go after someone who is bigger and

stronger is a fallacy of logic. If you can spot your opponent's

weaknesses, you can actually defeat your opponent.

Raven

Co-Administrator

P.S. America isn't ALWAYS doing everything correctly, btw. There

are some immoral people in charge of certain departments,

detachments, et al and SOMETIMES there is truth to the claim that the

American(s) in charge are corrupt.

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> In general, harassing someone with the capability to fire more stuff

> further than you is very ill advised...

>

[Guest guest]

I meant in the instance of US vs. Iran.

[Guest guest]

That or sticking your finger in someone's eye because they can't do anything about it, and even if they do, they look like the bad guy.

Actually it's called "Counting Coup". An old 'tradition' based on oldnative American tales.Randy GarrettAntioch, CA USA-----<---{(@It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance.

[Guest guest]

Actually it's called " Counting Coup " . An old 'tradition' based on old

native American tales.

Randy Garrett

Antioch, CA USA

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Re: Iran denies confrontation at sea with U.S.

Navy

In general, harassing someone with the capability to fire more stuff further

than you is very ill advised...

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[Guest guest]

Well, last year in a similar alleged incident it was later learned that

the US had falsified the information as the 'sound effects' did not

match the audio provided along with the allegation.

Besides, if the "

confrontation is not considered serious pend

quote] " according to a U.S. official, why make a big deal about it in

the media if not to put 'spin doctoring' to the situation overseas?

Raven

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> I meant in the instance of US vs. Iran.

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[Guest guest]

I agree with you on that, . Lots of stupid. *sigh*

Raven

Co-Administrator

[Guest guest]

Randy wrote: " Actually it's called " Counting Coup " . An old 'tradition'

based on old native American tales. "

Actually, you are inaccurate when you say it is a " tradition " from

Native Americans.

The fact is, it was an activity engaged in by the Great Plains

Aboriginals. The Great Plains Aboriginals include the Blackfeet, the

Crow, the Sioux, the Cheyenne, the Arapaho, the Comanche, the Pawnee

and the Wichita.

To imply that it was part of the tradition of the Haida, the Cree, the

Abenaki, the Algonquins, the Mohawks, the Chippewa, et al is incorrect.

In fact, the Mohawk have their own special tradition that exists to

this day. Ask any Mohawk -- he'll tell ya! ;-)

Raven

Co-Administrator

[Guest guest]

The early settlers here in Virginia noted "Counting Coup" amongst the local tribes.

Actually, you are inaccurate when you say it is a "tradition" from Native Americans. It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance.

[Guest guest]

wrote: " The early settlers here in Virginia noted " Counting

Coup " amongst the local tribes. "

I don't doubt that to be true in your state, .

My point is that it was not a " tradition " among ALL Aboriginal nations,

only the Great Plains Aboriginals.

To paint it across ALL Aboriginals would be like saying that ALL

Americans and Canadians have identical customs when that would be

untrue.

Raven

Co-Administrator

[Guest guest]

Sorry I didn't spell it out that it was a 'vague' concept. I knew (but

forgot to emphasize) that it was a few who might have done it and a

stereotype thing as well. It was the concept of various cultures to 'poke'

your enemy with a stick, so to speak, and go home to brag about it.

Randy Garrett

Antioch, CA USA

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Re: Iran denies confrontation at sea with U.S.

Navy

Randy wrote: " Actually it's called " Counting Coup " . An old 'tradition'

based on old native American tales. "

Actually, you are inaccurate when you say it is a " tradition " from

Native Americans.

The fact is, it was an activity engaged in by the Great Plains

Aboriginals. The Great Plains Aboriginals include the Blackfeet, the

Crow, the Sioux, the Cheyenne, the Arapaho, the Comanche, the Pawnee

and the Wichita.

To imply that it was part of the tradition of the Haida, the Cree, the

Abenaki, the Algonquins, the Mohawks, the Chippewa, et al is incorrect.

In fact, the Mohawk have their own special tradition that exists to

this day. Ask any Mohawk -- he'll tell ya! ;-)

Raven

Co-Administrator

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