? re: H-12

[Guest guest]

Hope you guys can help me as you've done in the past.

Re: H-12 - fill in item given class.

We changed Greg's program to Verbal behavior based a little more than a year

ago. To date he has acquired 65 individual targets in H-12. These include

items in vehicles, restaurants,plants,food,drinks,clothes, toys, animals.

Now to my question: when I ask him to say name a toy and the new target is

bubbles but he wants to say " puzzle " I know I can tell him " yes that's a

toy and another on is . . . . " This could go on for quite a while and

then Greg gets frustrated. I feel like I'm asking him to name a number

between one and one hundred. Any number he names is a number but odds are

it won't be the number I want.

Is it okay to give him a hint. Fot example: target - bubbles

Me: Hey Greg, can you tell me a toy?

Greg: Puzzle.

M: That's right. Can you tell me another toy?

G. Blocks.

M: Super, ( here's the hint) What about a toy that has a wand?

G. Bubbles.

Is it okay to do this?

Thanks

[Guest guest]

I could be wrong, but I think that is whats called " using a

qualifier "

Cause if you think of it, I could post HERE to TELL ME A TOY and

many would come up with several different answers until I break it

down and give you more descriptive " cues " as to what I REALLY want

to get you guys to name.

A good way to TEACH BUBBLES as a toy. is to have the picture

mastered as a tact.

And then say TELL ME A TOY and show the picture and prompt BUBBLES.

Then do an immediate transfer, tell me a toy? if you anticipate the

WRONG answer fade the cue of the picture back .

Then you can teach the reversal.. bubbles are a ______

or an immediate transfer trail of A kind/type of toy are _______.

If you practice each individual TACT under their specific class. You

may eventually start getting random answers as opposed to the first

learned PUZZLES.

Atleast he is on the right track, cause the SD Tell me a toy is

illiciting A TOY ITEM..and not a color or a vehicle..

even though your worry may be that PUZZLE ..is only under the

control of the SD...TELL ME A TOY .. so to get other items under the

stim control of that SD, try and practice EACH item individually as

their class individually .

SO you would have puzzle

Bubbles

game boy

and Tell me a TOY..show picture of game boy..

and do transfer trails .. Practicing this with all the other items

as well..

and even though you may find that he ALWAYS fall back on PUZZLE as

the " answer " to that SD.. I wouldnt say it is worth the frustration.

CAUSE ..SO LONG as you know when BUBBLES (and not puzzle) are on the

table with other items and say " show me the " TOY " OR during sorting

he is putting the bubbles with the toys

and he can answer Bubbles are a ______

and

What are bubbles?TOY

I would say he knows pretty much that bubbles are a toy.

Just think, the WAY he is using it (if under normal conditions..ie

in school or testing) he would be right.

Noone will come up to him and say

TELL ME A TOY and he says PUZZLE and they say SORRY YOUR WRONG..

they would need to give him more info anyway..

I personally get the same problem, but so long as he can do the

reversal of the item as it's class (Bubbles are a TOY..or what are

bubbles? TOY) .. rec id it as a class memeber (show me the toy)..

sort it as a class memeber(put this with toys or just " SORT This " )

and when need be TACT it as a class memeber (tell me the one that

you see thats a toy) then I would say has it ..

No matter what as far as intraverbals go, you will most of the time

need to use a qualifing carrier phrases.. but thats noraml for

EVERYONE, even you or I..

Good luck!

> Hope you guys can help me as you've done in the past.

>

> Re: H-12 - fill in item given class.

>

> We changed Greg's program to Verbal behavior based a little more

than a year

> ago. To date he has acquired 65 individual targets in H-12.

These include

> items in vehicles, restaurants,plants,food,drinks,clothes, toys,

animals.

> Now to my question: when I ask him to say name a toy and the new

target is

> bubbles but he wants to say " puzzle " I know I can tell him " yes

that's a

> toy and another on is . . . . " This could go on for quite a

while and

> then Greg gets frustrated. I feel like I'm asking him to name a

number

> between one and one hundred. Any number he names is a number but

odds are

> it won't be the number I want.

>

> Is it okay to give him a hint. Fot example: target - bubbles

>

> Me: Hey Greg, can you tell me a toy?

> Greg: Puzzle.

> M: That's right. Can you tell me another toy?

> G. Blocks.

> M: Super, ( here's the hint) What about a toy that has a wand?

> G. Bubbles.

>

> Is it okay to do this?

>

> Thanks