Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 I am sure there is plenty of that stuff floating around out there. There have been very few actual uses of it so far though. Still, it is disturbing. It's funny that while people are trying to challenge the right for people to own rifles and handguns, other people are arming themselves with weapons like these. Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 wrote: " Going by the picture, what they have is a PIAT launcher. That was a British weapon from WWII that was really an interim weapon and was widely hated by the troops. The PIAT really isn't a rocket launcher so much as a spigot mortar. I works by cocking a very powerful spring inside a pole of sorts and then fitting the projectile onto the pole. When it is fired, there is a powerful recoil to it from the spring, which is made worse when the " rocket " actually fires. That is because the firing of the rocket recocks the spring ... <snip> >.. " That was interesting to learn. As always, you present the facts in sch a way that the snapshot is clear. " ... <snip> ... It ws not uncommon for the thing to break shoulders. Maybe they should have let the gang keep it. First off, they aren't going to find ammunition for it, and if they did, all they would have to do is check the hospitals for broken shoulders to find who fired it ... <snip> ... " It wouldn't encourage the other gang members to give it a shot, pardon the pun. Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 During World War II, those films were made that way for an additional prupose: Many of the men that served were functionally illiterate. That war was one where " Every able bodied man " was required to report to the recruiting centers, and where just about everyone who was reasonably fit, and who could follow simple directions was inducted. While many older men were dismissed on account of age, they did let some folks in who were still in their thirties and forties even. Another reason was that many of the men from that era came from urban and rural communities that were poor, and so had never seen a movie before. Some rural communities did not have movie theaters. Thus by making training entertaining, it had a " double Wow! " effect. Wow! because it was a motion picture, and Wow! because it was an entertaining cartoon to boot. Vietnam saw a whole lot of troops cycled through the armed services, and many of those troops were drafted. College kids could sometimes get out of the war if they had connections, so there were many folks drawn, once again, from communities where the education standards might not have been so great. So the films were useful then too. Finally, as said, the one thing the military doesn't want to do is to make troops scared of their own weapons, nor does it want to make troops scared of the enemy's weapons. It would be counterproductive to show troops in training videos of people getting shot up in past wars. Bullets and other projectiles, bayonets and bowie knives, grenades and C4, poison gas and radiation can do all sorts of things to human bodies that most people really cannot imagine. What the movies we see in the theatres show doesn't even come close to what can happen on the battlefield - the one possible exception being what we see in " Saving Private . " All one needs to do to find out about the gore and grue is read some autobiographical accounts of a war. So the movies show what can happen to a person if something goes wrong...but they don't get graphic enough to traumatize the viewers either. The military wants to show enough to inform the trainees, but not enough information to give them nightmares and make them afraid to fight in battle. Administrator Disney and other animation houses made training films for the troops during WWII. They weren't children, but the idea was that cartoons would be more interesting and hold their attention better than some dry film with real people. Not only that, but they could more graphically, yet humorously, show what could happen itf you didn't follow instructions when operating the weapon. They did the same thing in Vietnam with the M-16 manual. It was a little cartoon kind of book with a busty blonde showing them how to care for the M-16. The army figured the troops would be more likely to read that manual than the dry field manual and they were right. It also would have helped if the M-16 wasn't junk and they didn't have to keep it spotless for it to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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