Re: now...contrasting Obama and Palin RE: this was a cool story.....

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wow - I am confused! Why would we compare a VP candidate to a Prez candidate?I think am a bit too liberal for this list.Side by side accounting of experience and policies http://www.audacity ofhypocrisy. com/2008/ 08/30/sarah- palin-vs- barack-obama From: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndrom eInfoExchange@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Kathy Ratkiewicz Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:54 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com Subject: RE: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] this was a cool story..... I sent the story because I thought that it had some nice comments about people with Ds. Period. But since you brought it up…if that was Palin’s ONLY ‘qualification’, I would not vote for her, either. But since I like the other things she stands for, and do not like what Obama stands for, I believe that I * am * making a mindful choice. I don’t assume that anyone who is voting for Obama is voting for him simply because of his race, so please don’t assume that those of us who are glad that Palin is the VP nominee are planning on voting for her simply because she has a child w/Ds ..or that she is a woman…or any other frivolous thing. KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndrom eInfoExchange@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Naomi Honor Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:48 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] this was a cool story..... While it is exciting to have " one of our own " up for one of the top spots in the US government, I would hasten to add that just because someone knew in utero that they were carrying a child with ds and went ahead with the pregnancy does not qualify them to run our county! We too, found out early in our pregnancy that our child could have ds and decided to trust in God. But that alone does not qualify me to run our country. If the last 8 years weren't a wake up call, to make mindful choices, I don't know what is. IMHO Naomi Honor On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Kathy Ratkiewicz < Kathy_Rcomcast (DOT) net> wrote: http://www.freerepu blic.com/ focus/f-news/ 2072073/postsSunday, August 31, 2008 http://beta.nationalreview.com/images/blog_dotted_divider.gif Trig Paxson Van Palin [ Rich Lowry] I meant to post this the other day (so please don't take it as a response to Rick—in fact it might constitute pleading guilty as charged!), but I got sidetracked. I found the Palin event Friday incredibly moving. Partly because of Trig. The sentimentalist in me would be willing to see anyone who is loving and unselfish enough to welcome a Down kid into their family elevated to high office. When I was thinking of Trig, I was reminded of an encounter I had a couple of weeks ago on the Delta Shuttle from Washington to New York. It was a mostly empty plane, but I went all the back to the very emptiest part of the plane to spread out and enjoy he quiet. And there was a man sitting in the very back row who immediately piped up, " Hi. I'm Ian. Would you like to sit next to me? " He was a guy with Down Syndrome, maybe in his twenties. I declined the offer, but we struck up a conversation. He was going to New York for a family celebration, including for his birthday. I told him I had a birthday coming up too and he lit up and came over to vigorously shake my hand in congratulations—more delighted by my birthday than his own. When the plane began to fill up a woman and her daughter came all the way to the back with a huge bag. I began to wonder to myself if I should offer to help them with it, when Ian popped up, told them he'd get it, and lifted it up and shoved it in the overhead compartment. When two men came down the aisle with a box they weren't sure would fit overhead, he intervened and told them it would— " trust me " —and put it up for them. He chatted amiably with his neighbors during the flight, and when we landed was up out of his seat first thing to help that woman get her bag down. From this brief encounter, I dare say Ian is friendlier, better adjusted and more considerate than about half of the people on the streets of Manhattan or San Francisco on any given day. Yet most of those people are perfectly unperturbed by the elimination of babies with Down syndrome in the womb. To hell with them. God bless Palin for bringing Trig into the world, and may he shower those around him with as much sunshine as the gentleman I met on that flight.

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You know what?? I had a reply all ready to go on this, but what

is the point, really? I am not going to change your mind, and you are not going

to change mine.

I respect your right to have a different opinion than mine  and I am going to

leave it at that;-)

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[DownSyndromeInfoExchange] this was a cool story.....

wow - I am confused! Why would we compare a VP candidate to

a Prez candidate?

I think am a bit too liberal for this list.

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by side accounting of experience and policies

http://www.audacity ofhypocrisy. com/2008/ 08/30/sarah-

palin-vs- barack-obama

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I think the point was maid that way because many people like to show

that the #2 spot on the Republican ticket has just as much, if not

more experience than the #1 spot on the Democratic ticket. IMHO, I'd

rather not have the lesser experienced person in the #1 spot.

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I think comparing the two MAY demonstrate they are equally qualified....or not.

shirley

Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] this was a cool story.....

While it is exciting to have "one of our own" up for one of the top spots in the US government, I would hasten to add that just because someone knew in utero that they were carrying a child with ds and went ahead with the pregnancy does not qualify them to run our county! We too, found out early in our pregnancy that our child could have ds and decided to trust in God. But that alone does not qualify me to run our country. If the last 8 years weren't a wake up call, to make mindful choices, I don't know what is. IMHO

Naomi Honor

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Kathy Ratkiewicz < Kathy_Rcomcast (DOT) net> wrote:

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Trig Paxson Van Palin [ Rich Lowry]

I meant to post this the other day (so please don't take it as a response to Rick—in fact it might constitute pleading guilty as charged!), but I got sidetracked. I found the Palin event Friday incredibly moving. Partly because of Trig.

The sentimentalist in me would be willing to see anyone who is loving and unselfish enough to welcome a Down kid into their family elevated to high office.

When I was thinking of Trig, I was reminded of an encounter I had a couple of weeks ago on the Delta Shuttle from Washington to New York. It was a mostly empty plane, but I went all the back to the very emptiest part of the plane to spread out and enjoy he quiet. And there was a man sitting in the very back row who immediately piped up, "Hi. I'm Ian. Would you like to sit next to me?"

He was a guy with Down Syndrome, maybe in his twenties. I declined the offer, but we struck up a conversation. He was going to New York for a family celebration, including for his birthday. I told him I had a birthday coming up too and he lit up and came over to vigorously shake my hand in congratulations—more delighted by my birthday than his own.

When the plane began to fill up a woman and her daughter came all the way to the back with a huge bag. I began to wonder to myself if I should offer to help them with it, when Ian popped up, told them he'd get it, and lifted it up and shoved it in the overhead compartment. When two men came down the aisle with a box they weren't sure would fit overhead, he intervened and told them it would—"trust me"—and put it up for them.

He chatted amiably with his neighbors during the flight, and when we landed was up out of his seat first thing to help that woman get her bag down.

From this brief encounter, I dare say Ian is friendlier, better adjusted and more considerate than about half of the people on the streets of Manhattan or San Francisco on any given day. Yet most of those people are perfectly unperturbed by the elimination of babies with Down syndrome in the womb. To hell with them. God bless Palin for bringing Trig into the world, and may he shower those around him with as much sunshine as the gentleman I met on that flight.

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Kathy - You are making assumptions that you know what my mind is and I was not attempting to change yours. All I was asking was why compare apples to oranges? They are not running for the same office - unless you all know something about McCain that the rest of us don't and he won't be able to complete the office. Okay - I am done. I know that this post will not make an impact on this thread but wanted to make sure that I stated my question to avoid any more assumptions. You know what?? I had a reply all ready to go on this, but what is the point, really? I am not going to change your mind, and you are not going to change mine. I respect your right to have a different opinion than mine  and I am going to leave it at that;-) KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:DownSyndrom eInfoExchange@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tutwiler Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:04 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExc hange@yahoogroup s.com Subject: RE: now...contrasting Obama and Palin RE: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] this was a cool story..... wow - I am confused! Why would we compare a VP candidate to a Prez candidate? I think am a bit too liberal for this list. Side by side accounting of experience and policies http://www.audacity ofhypocrisy. com/2008/ 08/30/sarah- palin-vs- barack-obama __